Nevada Ruby Mountains

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We scouted and hunted the Ruby mountains pretty hard this year. We have hunted there before with some success. Before I say what we saw and how it went and I influence your stories please tell me how it went for you.


"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
Hunted the Rubies last year and it was very fun. We ran into a lot of private land bucks the first three days that we could not hunt, but after we learned where the public and private was, it became easier, and we ended up seeing bucks.

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-18-14 AT 02:13AM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Oct-18-14 AT 02:04?AM (MST)

Well since you asked,I have to share this.We missed out on buck tags on the first draw,except for one guy.The other five of us got doe tags on the second draw just so we could get out and hunt,and to be there when my BIL was on his hunt for a Bull.I do not care to hunt Area 10,I think that way too many tags are awarded there,making it much too crowded.There are several other areas I would rather go,even to hunt for does.But since my BIL had a depredation tag for a bull,why not get a doe tag while we are there?That was the plan back in the summer,but got kind of skewed when my BIL and my Brother headed up there on Fri Oct3 to look for the bull.After setting up camp they headed out and my BIL took a hike over the hill and within 45min had a 5x6 bull on the ground.http://www.monstermuleys.info/photos/user_photos2/42422014_bull_chad!.jpg On Sat they came back to town and dropped the bull of at the butcher.On Fri Oct10 the 6 of us headed up there and settled in once we arrived.We went out Fri afternoon and did not see anything.On Sat we did not see anything,On Sun we went out on the morning hunt not seeing anything again.For the afternoon 3 of us had to head in to Elko to get another tire for one of our trucks that had a flat the day before.When we got back to camp the 3 who went out on the evening hunt saw nothing once again.On Mon morning we headed out to a very quiet scene,seeing almost nobody on the roads.Once we got to our hunting ground we saw deer and within 2 hrs my buddy with the buck tag had a good sized spike on the ground.We carried the buck over to a deserted camp nearby and skinned him and bagged him.Later some of us headed up into the hillside to look for some does.Within an hr my BIL shot the biggest doe I have ever seen.We joined up with the rest of our party and hauled the 2 deer back to camp and skinned the doe and left the 2 deer hanging.After lunch we headed back to our hunting ground and split up.Within an hr one of our guys had another doe on the ground.When we got back to the the bottom of the canyon we bagged 2 more does and headed back to camp.Here is a pic after we got done skinning
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The guy on the left,Doug is 68yrs old and has not been hunting for 30yrs.The smile on his face after he shot his deer was priceless!Well worth the trip!
 
I've hunted the Ruby's for the past 19 years and the past 3 years has been terrible. We hunted 1st rifle (easy tag for us to get) alternating between 3 areas that we always hunt. This year we hunted all three areas without any success. We backpack back in about 4-8 miles depending on the area selected and scope it out. I don't know if the full moon has anything to do with it (I believe it does) but we saw few to no bucks. On a normal year we see 5-10 shooter bucks (23-25 inch spread types). 4 years ago I shot a nice 24incher and the year after we saw only 2 bucks and my son and his buddy took them. After that nothing! I don't hunt the west side of the mountains but concentrate on the east side units 101 and 102. We talked about not going back to the Ruby's. Are they taking too many bucks? Where else to go.
 
Mickey, I agree. So here is the story. We hunted for 3 days. We went back and hunted for 2 days. We scouted for 3 days prior to the season. We have hunted the area 3 times before.

So, you would think we would know the place rather well. In scouting the areas all we were able to come up with was about 40 bucks....only two were 4 points or better and were locked up behind private land. We got access behind the private but when we showed up to hunt the owner had let others in there.

We hunted down low. We hunted 4 miles in. We hunted 11,000 feet. We hunted 3 separate basins. We hunted from 4 am till 2 am....almost 24 hours straight. We couldn't find anything bigger than a 23" 3 point.

On one 3 day trip we passed on about 25 bucks for so. Almost EVERY buck was a 2 point....some with eye guards.

These hunts were largely on the East side. We saw very few....if any other hunters. We go to some areas that don't have a lot of hunting pressure and we have seen good bucks in the past.

In frustration we went to the West face and hunted a canyon we have seen 20 bucks in before. We saw....again....3 two points.

The Rubys seem to be having trouble. We will no longer be hunting there. You will all have an easier time drawing tags.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
You saw bucks we didn't. As far as hunters not many. I'm going to miss the Ruby's. Do you think the full moon doomed it? I talked to hunters that had a 2nd season tag last year and they saw plenty of smaller bucks but nothing large. We hunted an area that was void of any hunters and only saw a small 3x3 about 20in wide.
 
Not really any hunters. We saw a lot of big bucks there in 2005 but now all we see are 2 points.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
>Maxcarp - looks you had a
>good time in the Rubys!
>Yes we did NH!We have spent a good deal of time in Area 10 in the past only to come up empty handed.Before we struck pay-dirt on Mon,the only thing we found was a back route from SR229 to Harrison Pass.Great country but no deer.Aspen and Mickey,I think that for bucks Area 10 has been over hunted for way too long to produce any more decent bucks.The best that can be hoped for are 3x3s and dinky young 4x4s.Part of the problem is that the locals from Elko and Spring Valley can take a short ride up there to scout during the summer and get every last buck dialed in.Come opening day,the locals have many of the bucks hanging before noon.I can't blame them one bit.Area 10 is where the greatest number of deer tags are issued in Nv,because of the great concentration of deer.The Nv DOW issued 1000 doe tags for the hunt we signed up for.For Area 10 to start producing quality bucks again,it will require are radical change in management practices from the DOW,which I don't see happening.If you want to see decent bucks,look elsewhere in Nv.
 
>Maxcarp - looks you had a
>good time in the Rubys!
>Yes we did NH!We have spent a good deal of time in Area 10 in the past only to come up empty handed.Before we struck pay-dirt on Mon,the only thing we found was a back route from SR229 to Harrison Pass.Great country but no deer.Aspen and Mickey,I think that for bucks Area 10 has been over hunted for way too long to produce any more decent bucks.The best that can be hoped for are 3x3s and dinky young 4x4s.Part of the problem is that the locals from Elko and Spring Valley can take a short ride up there to scout during the summer and get every last buck dialed in.Come opening day,the locals have many of the bucks hanging before noon.I can't blame them one bit.Area 10 is where the greatest number of deer tags are issued in Nv,because of the great concentration of deer.The Nv DOW issued 1000 doe tags for the hunt we signed up for.For Area 10 to start producing quality bucks again,it will require are radical change in management practices from the DOW,which I don't see happening.If you want to see decent bucks,look elsewhere in Nv.
 
I live in the Rubies and the early hunting season is a total ZOO!!! My husband and I have hunted this area every year since 1985 and I have seen the quality and number of deer take a serious nose dive in the last 5 years. Teri Harmon was so disgusted by the size of the bucks being harvested this year she just gave up looking at the gambles outside. Nevada department of wildlife blames drought on the decreasing numbers and others blame the predators, But the main problem is poor habitat and herd management. Why are they still giving out doe tags at all? The largest migrating mule deer hear in Nevada has been sold out to Canadian/UK multinational mining company Barrick Gold.The largest Gold mine in the world blocks mule deer migration. There is a collard deer migration report on line you can read,paid for by Barrick Gold of course. The biggest problem I see with the report is that it states there in no early studies of the heard impact by the mine. But there is, a logitudinal study, Hunter Questionaires/harvest reports. On these reports is the size number and sex of the animal harvested every year. If you still don't think what I say is true go look at the mine for yourself go eight miles past the Ruby marshes/lake, fish if you like but don't eat them they are highly contaminated with mercury, go to NDOW site for health hazards of fish. Harry Reid sold us out long ago and I see no way of going back. YOU CANT REMOVE THAT MUCH SAGE, MOHOGANIES,PINIONS AND WATER AND EXPECT IT NOT TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE DEER!!! Governor Sandovol is taking money from the largest mining and energy lobbist group in the US and gets to elect the wildlife commission and the wildlife director to do his bidding. SO WHERE ARE THE WOLVES IN NEVADA? DC AND THE STATE CAPITAL,JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY.
 
I'd look at area 06 instead of 07. I was there for the late hunt this year and it rocked. Of course the odds are much tuffer as there are fewer tags, but that makes for better quality. I ran into few hunters while in Elko as they all said the same thing you folks are sayin' about the Rubies. Funny thing was all the deer piled up in the subdivisions in Spring Creek.
 
I have hunted deer in the Rubys for around 40 years, this last season was by far the worst I have ever seen, it's beyond a full moon or warm
weather problem. Please call the area
10 biologist and let them hear your concerns, I am going to do my part, some more squeaky wheels would sure help.
 
Sounds good. I will call tomorrow. Thanks for the idea....

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
I can't believe that they issued 1000 doe tags for a hunt area that the herd size is in decline.

5 will get you 10 that whoever pushed that decision on the amount of doe tags, is from back East, pushing whitetail management practices on muley herds.

I don't know if the time i spent paroling, guiding, and hunting the Rubies was it's hayday or not, but i have some very fond memories of great days afield there and it's a shame to hear of it in such a decline.

Joey



"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
 
We hunted the rubies archery early. We did have company where we hunted (about 8 miles in). I arrowed a 23-24" 4x that we did not recover. He was probably the 2nd or 3rd best buck we seen. We seen 5-10 bucks a day. The other hunting pressure was always a guessing game. My cousin shot over the back of a smaller buck, but also made a stalk on a nice 22-24" buck. Seen one buck that maybe went 28" heavy, big framed 3x2. Would of love to of taken him. Our experience with the rubies is there's buck to be had, it's just a matter of weather or not you can get to them. It's pretty damn rugged at times.
 
NDOW biologists are cowards and blame things like "drought" instead of telling it like it is. That's why their deer herd continues to decline in every single unit in Elko County. Maybe they should go ask the ranchers (not all of them, but several) why they have allowed their cows to graze the living ##### out of the muley winter range habitat. I couldnt believe how poor the condition of their range was when I was out there antelope hunting earlier this year. They should be ashamed of themselves. Of course when you start telling ranchers they are doing a poor job, every anti government ahole for 200 miles will be claiming tyranny. People in Elko get their rocks off on stuff like that.
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-18-14 AT 07:39PM (MST)[p]Kittykiller, Talk about telling it like it is, I like your candor.
Powwowgirl is right about the bald mountain mine, their proposed expansion is a bad deal for the ruby deer herd, it's already bad enough. I'm guessing we have about lost the biggest deer herd in Nevada, they will have to cross 5 haul roads, (300 ton trucks don't stop for deer)
Multiple leech pads and pits on both the east and west side of the range.

The price of progress I guess.
 
BEAST:

Sounds like you had fun on the archery. However, you said you were seeing 5 to 10 bucks per day......and one of the best bucks you could find was a 23" 4 point.

That doesn't sound like a good unit....8 miles in....archery....summer range....and only seeing 10 bucks per day and the biggest is a 23" 4 point?

We were seeing 20 or more bucks per day.....the best buck we saw was a 23" 3 point....really tall. But, when I hike in to the top of a mountain range....stay for days....eat dehydrated food....hike through cliffs....etc...etc.....I better see a nice 26" 4 point or I am going to another state to hunt.

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NVMDF

I already have....I hunt Colorado, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah.....and I used to hunt the Rubys...not anymore my friend.

We hunt in Wyoming whenever we can. Taking a 160 buck on a general tag in Wyoming is a breeze and the terrain...in my opinion in the Greys River area is prettier than the Rubies. I love the Rubys but the deer hunting stinks. I hunted Colorado and saw multiple non-typical bucks. I even hunt the Wasatch in Utah....hike in 4 miles or so...hunt at 10,000 ft elevation....I see better bucks next to Salt Lake City than I do in the Rubys. I have hunted southern Utah in a general area last fall.....shot at a big 27" buck on opening day just a mile from the truck.....he was a better buck than I saw the entire time I scouted or hunted the Rubies.

So, I will take you up on your offer to hunt another state....in fact I already have....and found great success. Good luck with all of your two point bucks.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
NVMDF
Stopped along time ago. Figured that Nevada didn't need my money to piss away with bad management. So that little bit of Change as a NR shouldn't even be a pebble in the creek unless a lot of other pebbles join it.

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NVMDF,

Want to talk about it? Look unit 10 is not a trophy unit. Everyone knows that, duh... But it's an opportunity hunt that you can more likely hunt year after year as a NR (with a bow) in gods country, in the event you don't draw a tag somewhere else with big bucks, you can still chase mule deer. Are they giving out too many tags for 10. More than likely. The bucks don't reach much for age. I am hearing more and more people say the Rubies are in decline. The tag numbers are HUGE. The cool part about this hunt for me is the challenge to kill a buck in that country is real. Of course I haven't hunted the high country of CO, yet....
 
All of the comments about the Rubies in this thread have been heard by just about everyone that hunts deer in the area, including these "cowardly biologists." The biologists don't decide the tag numbers, the commission does. These commission meetings are always open to the public to hear your concerns. I have always heard the stories of "the good old days" in area 10 and how there were thousands and thousands of deer and big bucks everywhere you looked. I'm not old enough to say anything about how it used to be but I can honestly say that a hike in the Rubies while looking for deer impresses me every single time I do it. Yes there are a lot of smaller bucks and even quite a few giant two points with bad genetics but there are plenty of good to great bucks in the area. Aspen, it sounds like you have had great success in these other states and I congradulate you for these!!! But I do know that I've seen a pretty impressive collection of bucks that NVMDF has gotten in the rubies over the years and can assure you that he's not exactly a two point hunter. I'm fully aware that the technique of hunting is different for everyone and when I hear that people didn't see much in Area 10, I'm not surprised because it's happened every year as far as I can remember. I know one guy and his good buddy got two 170's bucks in less than 10 hours of hunting and within a mile of a very well traveled road in the unit this year. But I'm sorry some of you have had bad experiences in the unit recently but it's still one of the funnest hunts around in my opinion!! Happy holidays to all!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-21-14 AT 11:44AM (MST)[p]Tridendata, my comment about the ruby deer condition reflects what I have observed this last year. I recently talked to an area biologist, his data from last year shows a fairly steady trend over the last decade or so.
I believe the constant pressure from early August into November is having an effect on mature animals, in numbers and by not only displacing them in the early high country but pushing them to private land areas. The biologist has a recommendation as does the county advisory board, then it is decided by the commission. I'm making noise on all ends.
 
Girls and guys,

Like I said, take your ATV's and money someplace else. I'm not
going to get into with you experts. Not everyone can get it done
In the Ruby's. Good luck in Colorado, Utah, Wyoming and wherever else
You're fortunate enough to draw a tag.

NVMDF
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-21-14 AT 02:52PM (MST)[p]NVMDF, I can't quite figure out your attitude?
You act as though someone hit a nerve or something, is it because the mule deer foundation won't involve itself in anything that seems remotely political? Putting a fake smiley face on things isn't doing any good. But yes many of us hunt different areas, l have some great memories from the rubys, that why I care, that's why I'm concerned, l want others to make memories, l want to pass it on
 
I think people just need to get used to hunting the Ruby's or mountains like them and they will see more mature bucks.
Hunting in the Uintas or Wasatch Mnts. is a lot different than Utah's West desert or most of Nevada.
I hear people saying the same thing about the Vernon and Book Cliffs but the fact is, most people don't know how to hunt those units.
 
Ha ha,

Ridgetops, you obviously didn't read my posts above or you would have seen comments I made like....

a. We saw about 30 bucks

b. We hunted for days

c. We have harvested bucks there in the past

d. We hunted on foot...not on ATV

e. We passed about 30 bucks...all 2 points pretty much

then I can tell you things like this.....

f. My hunting companion is a biologist....that used to be the wildlife biologist for the RUBYS!

g. We scouted 4 different locations for weeks

h. We have seen 180 bucks in the past....one canyon in the past held about 20 bucks....three of those were over 180

And you want to tell me "maybe we just didn't know how to get it done in that area."

Are you kidding? I think we know the Rubies....the fact of the matter is....areas that used to hold big bucks....DONT anymore.....period.

The area is over hunted....under population objective....and they still give out doe tags.

NVMDF.....I don't own an ATV....but I bet your big bunns that you do.


"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
One more indication the hunting sucks in the Rubies....have you seen the PATHETIC looking bucks that the guides are taking in the RUBIES?

Check out Walt Garners website for some pretty sad looking deer. These willow horned....under weight....bucks are what I would call "average" for the Wasatch....then you notice he is taking small two points and three points for his clients....WOW? Really? You have a guy paying $4000 to take a 3 point? Seriously?

I wont be back....but you all should continue to put in and focus on getting a tag for the Rubies.....PLEASE don't come to Wyoming where they take bucks like this with their outfitters....

and they do it on PUBLIC LAND WITH GENERAL TAGS AVAILABLE OVER THE COUNTER! HA!

http://nontypicaloutfitters.org/mule-deer-index.php

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
Aspen. Your full of it also, although your right about the sad conditions in the Ruby mountains, your accessment of Wyoming is funny. Do you really want the story on how many of Wyomings big bucks are getting killed there? The cost, the technology used, the tactics? No, Wyoming deer hunting for regular hunters is not that great either, I would surely say that its not quite as you portray.

Before you tell is about the monsters you kill there and on and on, remember it's the overall condition over time and regular hunter success that tell a story, not carefully chosen pictures showing what highly paid guides and outfitters using airplanes and God know what else get sometimes.
 
Piper, use an airplane and a cruise missle from a B1 bomber.....you still cant find bucks in the Rubies like the ones on that outfitters website from Wyoming......I will bet on that one every time.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
Oh, I failed to stab again.....the outfitter hunts a GENERAL TAG OVER THE COUNTER in Wyoming and takes bucks you cant find in the Rubies.....which is a "limited" tag.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
I hunt close to that outfitter in Wyoming.

The hunt lasts for 3 WEEKS!

And starts September 15TH!

Now beat that in the Rubies.....

My time will be spent scouting Wyoming....instead of Nevada.....you can have all the desperate California Hunters...

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
Congrats Aspen, for trying to make this thread a Richard measuring contest.





Sit tall in the saddle, hold your head up high, keep your eyes fixed to where the trail meets the sky...
 
I am an archery hunter also a 22-24 inch buck is decent but nothing like I was seeing 5 years ago and no more 30 plus class deer. I just read an article stating Boon and Crockett deer admissions are decreasing every year. mature bucks are becoming rare across the western states. WHY????
 
I have to call BS to Aspen on the "General Tag Over The Counter".... That Region G tag is a limited draw tag for Non Residents and takes 2-4 pref points to draw depending on whether you put in for "special draw" or not.
And out of curiosity.... I wonder how many of Non Typical Outfitters clients are Wyoming residents?? Versus non resident clients? Just curious.
Like BeastN said...the Ruby's aren't his top choice, but when you don' draw a mule deer tag anywhere else it is nice to spend a little time in gods country with a weapon in your hand!
For non residents your draw odds might be slightly better for the Rubies than Wy region G.
I don't think anyone will argue on region G genetics....but I think you might be arguing apples and oranges for some...
 
Look, I am not arguing genetics. I have seen some brutes in the Rubies....10 years ago or so.

I am just saying. The Rubies have potential. If managed correctly.

Region G is bigger. But, that doesn't mean the Rubies cant produce a great buck. The Rubies are overhunted.

If Nevada is trying to manage the Rubies for a place a Dad can take his son and get a two point buck....then they have nailed it. If they are trying to manage it as a place a guy can take his friends and see some bucks pushing 26" with mass. No, they will need to hunt somewhere else.

So, maybe it is just about what they are managing for. Perhaps they have exactly what they want.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
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Here's a good buck from our ruby hunt. Don't think the Rubys are what they "once where", then don't apply. I have only been hunting them the last two years so I'm not privileged to "once were". Rather, when I don't draw other units, I'm fortunate to have an awesome experience every Aug in the Rubys and see bucks like this one, mostly smaller, some bigger.
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-29-14 AT 07:00AM (MST)[p]The genetics in the rubys have never been great for high scoring heavy horns, at least as long as I have hunted there (40 years), They have seemed to declined over time though.
I just think modern hunting pressure combined with lots of tags and hunts from Aug to December have made their mark, and it's not pretty.

But it's the way of the modern world, I'm just so thankful for good memories and to have hunted in some great yet quickly disappearing times.
 
You are right BeastN

I wont apply anymore....

Just wanted to voice my opinion and see if others were noticing the same thing I was.....looks like they are.

As for me, I am going to scout better areas of Colorado and Wyoming on the years I don't draw in those states. Seems it will be time better wasted.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
Your organizations says it protects mule deer where and how? Face the fact you work for a shadow organization that refuses to fight for mule deer habitat by non information to your donors, looking at your website says it all. Your like a cheerleader who doesn't care if your team wins. Now go plan your little banquet. After all money talks and deer, well maybe you can milk that pseudo cause for all it's worth.
 
I have hunted this area since 1985 from secret pass to the medicines and mavericks in the east, to buck mountain to the south from ridge to valley the secret basins that were strongholds for deer are gone. Walt Gardner born and raised in ruby this year took clients to areas I had never seen him hunt before. Just getting used to hunting this area is a poor excuse for poor management.
 
As an archery hunter I would like to thank NDOW for the endless overlapping depredation elk hunt putting way too many hunters on the field it was a real added treat!!!
 
Yes mismanagement is part of the problem but there is a big golden elephant in the room taking up a lot of valuable space called Bald Mountain Mine!!!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-09-15 AT 01:19AM (MST)[p]I have been lucky enough to draw area 10 over the past several years and have grown quite fond of the area. I was not excited at first always hearing people talk about how there are no quality bucks and the genetics are terrible. I remember my first hunt in the Rubies and seeing up to 12 vehicles at every public access. Thought to myself no way are there going to be any deer in this area, but hunted there anyway. After getting out of my vehicle and walking several MILES from any access point I was able to find some bucks I would love to put on my wall. There hasn't been one year I hunted this area and haven't seen a quality buck. Here are some of the bucks I was lucky enough to make it happen on.
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Wow. Looks like some nice deer, glad you were successful. I noticed you emphasized getting away from the roads.
I think that is obvious and actually many of us do that, I know I do. What concerns many of us is what seems to be a recent decline in deer numbers and noticeably buck numbers.

My thoughts are that there are too many tags given out, especially archery, what is there over a thousand August hunts and 300 November December rut tags?
Just from your photos alone we can see that there might be some excessive harvest going on?

IMO , NDOW and most western wildlife departments are ONE step behind the curve on increasing Hunter prowess and technology.
 
Powwow girl, It's not ndow you need to thank, it's the Elko county commissioners and the cattle ranchers. I also know most of the western Shoshone tribe is more worried about cattle numbers than wildlife.
 
I get as far away from the roads as I can. If I started going down the other side of the mountain I would be getting close to another road. I literally cannot get farther away from the road.

I too have seen a few decent bucks....but when you see one decent buck.....and 30 or more two points.....then you have some sort of a problem.


"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
I also think they give out too many tags. After opening weekend it can get tough. I generally hunt the same few basins every year. On opening day I have counted 20+ bucks, but the next weekend after being pushed around by myself and other hunters I am lucky to find 5. The cover in this area is a big problem for myself as a bowhunter. After being chased into the trees there has been multiple times I have watched the mature bucks come out just before the sun went down. It is a tough area to hunt no doubt about that. I also agree with you there Aspen 1 decent buck to 30 forkys is a problem.
 
Aspenadventures I do believe the old saying "better to remain quiet and thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" applies to you in this situation. There are two types of people who "hunt", those get a tag and can pack a rifle around, and then those who actually know how to hunt. The fact that you keep referencing guides' hunt photos as indicators of animal quality in a given area tells me all I need to know about which category you fit into. Dont let the door hit ya on the way out. ;)
 
NVme

Your classlessness shines through your poor choice of words.

The fact that you bother to say something so negative on here and attack personal character instead of forwarding the conversation with real critical thinking shows all of us exactly who you are.

Read again....there were some big words in there for ya big guy.

PS....the trophy bucks on my wall taken in pulic places...including the Rubies....are proof enough for me that perhaps I have been fortunate to "stumble" onto a few bucks....or perhaps I know what I am doing.

Good luck with your poor excuse for a tropy area....I am headed to Wyoming to hunt for 30 days in the same unit starting 9/15/15....you don't have anything like that in Nevada.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 

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