.308 caliber...best factory mulie round

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Just wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good long range (400 Yard) factory round for a .308? Going on a special tag late season Mulie hunt where my son and I both drew tags. Looking at factory ammo because his .308 is a semi-auto.I would appreciate your feedback and experience with this caliber and what grain bullet you think reaches out best with enough poop to get the job done. Thanks in advance.....Les
 
I would say Federal Premium 165 gr. Trophy Bonded tip.. Very accurate. Trophy bonded bullets are well constructed. The ballistic tips make good accuracy downrange. Hope this helps. Good luck on the hunt with your boy.
 
I would buy a box of 168ttsx, 165 accubonds and a box of 165 ballistic tip. See which shoots best in your rifles. Every rifle is different. You may find one likes a certain bullet and other hates it. Once you decide on a factory ammo be sure to test it out to long range. Verify drop and accuracy.
What tag did you both end up with?
 
Is this a AR 10 being its a semi 308 ? I am getting one put together for long range shooting. I have been looking at high quality 308 loads that you can buy over the counter. I will let you know what I find.
 
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Check out double tap ammo they make some good quality rounds and I believe mostly use noslers, Barnes and swift scirocco For hubting rounds. They are best of both worlds. Kinda like a good hand load yet u can buy them in a box.
They are a bit pricier but not bad.

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It wasn't a 308 but
After using Barnes last year on three diff animals. My wife killed an elk and deer and me a deer. I am a big fan of them. But nosler and swifts are good too
 
I have an old model 88 lever action Remington 308 and my uncle who was good friends was Fred Barnes that the 150 Grain bullet was the best load for that caliber 30:06 was a 165 grain bullet
I am really liking the Barnes copper bullets as they are a real killer and knock the game down.
in February of this year I used my 308 on a wild boar with those Barnes bullets and it flat knocked the living you know what out of that pig, one shot and he was down. They are not easy animal to kill.
 
The tags we drew are the Chiwawa tags in Washington state, which are very limited and a late season/rut tag. They are not quite the Entiat tag which is probably the best in this state but they are close in quality as Chiwawa borders the Entiat. We drew as partners. I am a bit older so my son is 34 and he is shooting an older Winchester model 100...that is a semi-auto and a pretty accurate gun for a semi. We live on the west side of the state and mostly hunt blacktails and elk so we have not hunted Muleys. He usually shoots federal 150 grain for blacktails. I actually happen to have some federal 165 grain trophy bonded tip....I had a special elk draw several years ago and my rifle broke down just before the hunt and I used those federals in the .308 for that hunt. They worked great on a Bull so maybe I have the solution in the closet. I was reaching for some educated opinions as to the best flat shooting/ power .308 round that may have recently been developed as this could be some pretty long shooting. Thanks to all for the great ideas and I just may have the best idea in the closet....Les
 
While I love the 308 win. cartridge, I don't really consider it optimal at 400 yards. Your 150 grain loads are probably best, but expect some pretty large drops at 400 yards. I think you will see way too much drop with 168 grain loads, and the 150 grain bullet weight is fine for any mule deer on the planet.
Good luck.
Bill
 
Hunting with a .308 at 400 and under should be fine... I shot them out to 1300 yards 2 weeks ago and hit steel no problem. Drop will only be 32 inches at that range, hopefully you have a scope that has a BDC and you practice. Velocity at 400 yards is still 1927, and energy is 1385 ft-lbs. This is with Hornady 168 gr A-Max ammo out of a 20" barrel...has killed lots of game :)


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I use 1200 ft lbs of energy as my limit for deer and 1500 on elk. So you should be fine to 400 on deer with most .308 rounds up to 165 grains using that benchmark. I wouldn't go much farther.

I like to use 1gal milk jugs for field practice at those ranges as they are cheap, about the size of the kill zone, and give a fun report when hit well.

For a good tag, where a shot at a good deer is a real probability I do highly recommend you follow others advice here. Buy 3 or so offerings of well constructed bullers(Nosler Accubond, Nosler Partition, Barnes TSX/TTSX, Swift, Hornady, etc) and see what stays routinely sub milk jug out to that range. Then buy 2-3 more boxes minimum and practie in the field, shooting off a pack.

All 150-165 gr .308 bullets have a BC low enough that their trajectory will be more dependant on speed that bullet shape, so just find one that is reliable and constructed well for mule deer.

I think Barnes bullets are easy to shoot accurately and perform well on game, but with one flaw. If they impact the animal at low speed they don't mushroom enough and you don't get the devastating performance they are known for.

Personally I'd start with the few plastic tipped, bonded offerings as they seem to have the best mix of shape and terminal performance, particularly in those middle ranges. I'd start with the Accubond personally, also because their are a ton of offerings and the cost is moderate.

Good luck.
 
Great information/ideas from you all.....my guess is we will probably try to stay within the 300 yard range if possible and would probably try to make 400 the max and then trust to a better stalk plan... We definitely will be doing some long range practice this summer. Hopefully all the practice and planning will enhance what hopes to be a great hunt experience. What a great reference point this site is with all the experience on here. Thanks to all.......Les
 
I would also recommend shooting out past 400, so that shooting 400 and in is easy. I practice out to 12 and 1300 yards, and then try to hold myself accountable to make first round hits out to 500 at the start of each shooting session, or long break with a cold barrel.

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