Whats your guess and how much more will he grow?

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Alright guys here is a buck that was pictured on July 2nd. How big is he now and how much more do you think he will grow. Interested in hearing everyone's opinion.
 
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Awesome deer, Here is how I have him down.

Main Beam - 25"
G1 - 1"
G2 - 16"
G3 - 8"
G4 - 7"
Mass 15"

72" X 2 = 144"

Inside spread pushing if not exceeding 30" but you only get credit for his longest main beam of 25"+/-. The world record typical has a 30" spread and only has 28" & 30" main beams and is much larger framed than this deer.

144" + 25" = 171" 175" tops if he has 26" main beams. His G-1's may not even be 1" though. I am giving him 30" of mass also which is pretty high but he looks pretty heavy compared to his bases but is also in velvet.

Beautiful deer regardless of score, I don't think he has grown much since the picture he seems well developed and normally mature bucks drop and grow first.

I belive that is a true 30" mule deer which you don't see often.
 
Pretty good guess, NPH. Almost exactly how I broke him down. I'll give him a couple more inches of mass, though. And since nets are for fish, I give him the total inside spread as well. High '70's; could touch 180. That buck is mid-30's wide though. Shooter for sure. Score be damned.
 
>Pretty good guess, NPH. Almost exactly
>how I broke him down.
>I'll give him a couple
>more inches of mass, though.
>And since nets are for
>fish, I give him the
>total inside spread as well.
>High '70's; could touch 180.
>That buck is mid-30's wide
>though. Shooter for sure. Score
>be damned.

Plus one on everything you said!
Zeke
 
LAST EDITED ON Jul-27-16 AT 02:43PM (MST)[p]Thanks for the Input guys. He is a buck I watched last year during July then he disappeared when the opener came around. He was a big framed 3 by 4 last year that was really crabbed up.
I can tell you his mass is deceiving in this pic. The pic doesn't do him justice even with velvet.

Here is how I have him.. You guys can tell me if I'm off.

Outside spread 33 i think he is closer to 35 than 33 tho
Inside Spread 31 maybe 32

Left side
MB 26
g1 1
g2 15
g3 6
g4 7
H1-H4 19

total=74

Right Side
MB 26
g1 1
g2 16
g3 8
g4 7
H1-H4 19

Total 77

78+75+31 (Inside)=182 gross because nets are for fish for me to lol
 
If you guys are giving him his full inside width measurement you are doing it wrong, it has nothing to do with the net score or gross score, both will have the same number. The rule is you give them the width of the inside spread as long as it is not greater than the main beam, if it is you just give them the length of the main beam.

Here is the official wording from B&C:
D. Inside Spread of Main Beams is measured at a right angle to the center line of the skull at widest point between main beams. Enter this measurement again as the Spread Credit if it is less than or equal to the length of the longer main beam; if greater, enter longer main beam length for Spread Credit.

So no matter if its a gross score or a net score you can only give a buck the length of his greatest main beam if his inside spread is wider than the beam.

Just thought I would throw that out there.

And as for the buck, I came up with 180-185 but honestly who cares about a score, that thing is a freaking stud and all of 35" wide. Its not always about score, some bucks will be big no matter what they score. and I bet he has 19-20 inchs of mass per side, just sayin.





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Thanks Jake. But I knew that. I like to give a critter credit for everything he grows. He grew it; count it!! :)
 
I agree with you that a buck should get credit for what he grows and would be on board if the standard had changed and that is how we did it.

But the standard has been set, if we are doing that why use the inside spread at all? why not use the outside spread? hell lets measure all the points from the bottom of the beam rather than the top of the beam. The reason is the standard has been set, if we all go doing what we want then there would never be two scores the same.

To me there is something to be said about using the standard system that is in place, even if I don't agree on it.

Not picking a fight just giving an opinion.

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Jake H I understand that he doesn't get credit for his inside with B&C and he is not going to be a huge scoring buck. I appreciate the info and comments. I was just wondering what people thought he would gross and if he might continue to grow.

He might not net for the book but defiantly would look awesome hanging on the wall. Not alot bucks pushing 35 running around.
 
I think he looks like he might be done growing in this picture even... Maybe only a couple inches overall left after this picture was taken.

I think he's in the 170's, even with short tines. He's the kind of buck you shoot though because there just aren't that many deer that have a 30" INSIDE SPREAD..!!

Good luck to ya... Get after 'im.

"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
ok, I think he will gross 175-185 when he is all done, july 2nd he should put on a lil more, but he does look about done. This is using the correct inside spread. I agree he is a pig and should be pursued I know I would be.
I really dont care about the offical B&C score of a deer, I agree net scores are stupid, but it is the predominate scoring system used, and has been for a very long time so it has set the standard.

It drives me nuts when people inflate the score of something just to make it bigger, its like they're not happy with it cause it didnt score xxx while I am a complete score nut, Im not going to discredit my animal because it dont make a certain number. Like I said before its just a standard to follow.


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