Time to end the Crawfords hunt

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LAST EDITED ON Dec-28-17 AT 01:47PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Dec-28-17 AT 01:34?PM (MST)

All this region G talk from the Utah guys about how terrible G is and how we should manage it brings up the elephant in the room. The late season Crawfords hunt. While its normally a Utah thing to tell others how to manage their wildlife I figure we can try it to. See how the Utah boys like it.

It's known those are Wyoming bucks they are killing. And its basically a road hunt anyhow. It's time for it to end. Come on Utah guys put your money where your mouth is. You care so much about Region G help us out.

What do you think?

If not I propose a late season hunt in SW Wyoming south of Evanston and let us shoot those UT bucks that come winter in WY. You know, help spread out the pressure....





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LAST EDITED ON Dec-28-17 AT 03:16PM (MST)[p]I like it. More towards the shutting down that late hunt though. Already no bucks left north of Evanston. You must be from Evanston like me.
 
You guys stop telling us how to manage our deer! Stop it! Quit! Don't...... LOL

Seriously, I certainly don't care who voices their opinion about Utah wildlife. Heck, you can voice your opinion about the does and fawns that live in my backyard for all I care. I can't believe it bothers you all so much that others would have an opinion on your wildlife. It's strange, but whatever.

I've never paid attention to tag numbers for the Crawfords. I wonder if they were cut at all for this hunting season????

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You never really see anyone taking huge bucks off of there, seems the majority of deer I see taken from there is average 22-24 inch bucks
 
Oh and I also don't care one bit if they shut it down,those deer need all the help they can get
 
>To me it's about the same
>as Wyoming shooting north slope
>elk in the late season.
>

^#&@*@* elk


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You guys already do kill the bucks from the uintas over by evanston. That's why utah started doing an early october rifle hunt over in that unit. Because the biologists know they migrate to wyoming. Crawfords make it a general season unit and during normal seasons, it under delivers for a LE unit. When was the last time you saw a 190+ killed up there. That hunt has been in the tank for years. And you need a hell of a snow storm to get the wyoming bucks to come into utah. I rarely hear of someone saying I'm gonna put in for the crawford tag when LE deer comes to mind.

"We don't have a gun problem we have prescription drug problem."
 
> You guys
>already do kill the bucks
>from the uintas over by
>evanston. That's why utah started
>doing an early october rifle
>hunt over in that unit.
>Because the biologists know they
>migrate to wyoming. Crawfords make
>it a general season unit
>and during normal seasons, it
>under delivers for a LE
>unit. When was the last
>time you saw a 190+
>killed up there. That hunt
>has been in the tank
>for years. And you need
>a hell of a snow
>storm to get the wyoming
>bucks to come into utah.
>I rarely hear of someone
>saying I'm gonna put in
>for the crawford tag when
>LE deer comes to mind.
>
>
> "We don't have a gun
>problem we have prescription drug
>problem."

How is Wyoming killing Uinta bucks? The season in WY ends Oct 8th in those units. Are you telling me those bucks are migrating over then? If so where is the data? I would love to read it. I have noticed some of those bucks over in very late Oct but the seasons have been closed for a few weeks by then.

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>LAST EDITED ON Dec-28-17
>AT 06:22?PM (MST)
>
>Very insightful thinking,?your intelligence is absolutely
>intriguing AWESOME ?

I take hunting forums super serious. I also know that founder gets more money if the forum is active. So with every post, view, click you help save Wyoming mule deer.


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Awesome that's just what the DNR had told us in utah they wanted to hold the hunt so utah could hunt the bucks before they migrated to Wyoming. And yes I did go look at your season dates after your last post so yeah region K hunters really wouldn't have much time to hunt those deer as the seasons are very close.

"We don't have a gun problem we have prescription drug problem."
 
It's a sad and petty world we live in when some have a need to discuss ownership rights of wild animals depending on where they reside during different times of the year.

Maybe that's an awesome world.
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-28-17 AT 09:48PM (MST)[p]I've never hunted Wyoming G and I never will.

I've never hunted the mustang ruined units in Nevada and I never will. However, I have attended countless public meetings regarding the problems in an attempt influence better management practices, because, even though I never hunt Nevada and never will, I care a lot about sportsman in Nevada and the future of their long term hunting life style. When I think their future is threatened, I do what I can to help.

Never hunt the Utah north east units, never will. Never hunt south east Utah units, never will. Never hunt the Wasatch Front, never will. But I care about those that do and I care that they will continue to have abundant surplus deer, elk and other big game to hunt, not just this fall and next but for long, long into future.

I sent money to Colorado, to help feed deer in the Gunnison Basin last winter. Never hunted deer in the Gunnison Basin, probably never will, but thousands of other sportsmen do, I care about them and their deer herds, as much as I care about the Fish Lake, Monroe, Pahvant or...... your Wyoming G area.

If it were up to me, not another deer would be killed on the Crawford unit until the number of deer on both sides of the Wy//Ut border where back near carrying capacity , and if you gave a damn, about anything other than your own personal gratificatiion, you'd do the same.

I'll make you a deal Awesome, you write a letter to Utah's Wildlife Board, asking them to close he Crawford to all deer hunting, for a minimum of five years, send me a copy of your letter, and I'll write a letter, the next day, endorsing your request and I'll bet you a hundred dollars I can make as compelling reason for doing it, as your letter can. I'd love to loose a hundred dollars for the sake of Wyoming's deer, that winter in Utah.

DC
 
Sounds like Lumpy puts his money and effort into the deer herd, I?have no doubt that aweome does a lot more ?
 
>LAST EDITED ON Dec-28-17
>AT 09:48?PM (MST)
>
>I've never hunted Wyoming G and
>I never will.
>
>I've never hunted the mustang ruined
>units in Nevada and I
>never will. However, I
>have attended countless public meetings
>regarding the problems in an
>attempt influence better management practices,
>because, even though I never
>hunt Nevada and never will,
>I care a lot about
>sportsman in Nevada and the
>future of their long term
>hunting life style. When
>I think their future is
>threatened, I do what I
>can to help.
>
>Never hunt the Utah north east
>units, never will. Never
>hunt south east Utah units,
>never will. Never hunt
>the Wasatch Front, never will.
> But I care about
>those that do and I
>care that they will continue
>to have abundant surplus deer,
>elk and other big game
>to hunt, not just this
>fall and next but for
>long, long into future.
>
>I sent money to Colorado, to
>help feed deer in the
>Gunnison Basin last winter.
>Never hunted deer in the
>Gunnison Basin, probably never will,
>but thousands of other sportsmen
>do, I care about them
>and their deer herds, as
>much as I care about
>the Fish Lake, Monroe, Pahvant
>or...... your Wyoming G area.
>
>
>If it were up to me,
>not another deer would be
>killed on the Crawford unit
>until the number of deer
>on both sides of the
>Wy//Ut border where back near
>carrying capacity , and if
>you gave a damn, about
>anything other than your own
>personal gratificatiion, you'd do the
>same.
>
>I'll make you a deal Awesome,
>you write a letter to
>Utah's Wildlife Board, asking them
>to close he Crawford to
>all deer hunting, for a
>minimum of five years, send
>me a copy of your
>letter, and I'll write a
>letter, the next day, endorsing
>your request and I'll bet
>you a hundred dollars I
>can make as compelling reason
>for doing it, as your
>letter can. I'd love
>to loose a hundred dollars
>for the sake of Wyoming's
>deer, that winter in Utah.
>
>
>DC

How about email? Its almost 2018, no one writes letters anymore...

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[email protected]

For it to be most effective, if you really care, send a copy to the Board Chairman and each of the other Board members. All their addresses are on the UDWR's website. And copy me, I'll do the same, when I receive your email addresses to it's members.

Go for it. $100. Make your case and I'll make mine.

If you want it to have maximum effect, email it during the mule deer tag allocation public hearing meetings, so it will be considered when the Board is discussing the Crawford and every other unit. Otherwise, it's won't have the effect we are hoping for.

Do we have a bet?

DC
 
Now that's funny!! Lumpys old but hes not that old! He's a lot more savvy than you think. And...if he puts himself out there, I'd have to side with him that if he says hes got you, then HES GOT YOU. :)

Cancer doesn't discriminate...don't take your good health for granted because it can be gone in a heartbeat. Please go back and read the last line. This time really understand what it says.
 
>[email protected]
>
>For it to be most effective,
>if you really care, send
>a copy to the Board
>Chairman and each of the
>other Board members. All
>their addresses are on the
>UDWR's website. And copy
>me, I'll do the same,
>when I receive your email
>addresses to it's members.
>
>Go for it. $100. Make
>your case and I'll make
>mine.
>
>If you want it to have
>maximum effect, email it during
>the mule deer tag allocation
>public hearing meetings, so
>it will be considered when
>the Board is discussing the
>Crawford and every other unit.
> Otherwise, it's won't have
>the effect we are hoping
>for.
>
>Do we have a bet?
>
>DC

Old DC whats in it for me? Maybe you're not clear where I stand. Region G is fine, leave it alone. All you utards are the ones having a problem with it.

So I gave you guys a solution that you can fix. So why should I write a letter/email for you?

And if you care so much about deer why is your house on the winter range? Part of the problem...

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>wildlife. Heck, you can voice
>your opinion about the does
>and fawns that live in
>my backyard for all I
>care.

If I get a doe tag, can I come stay with you a couple of days? All that driving up and down the road can get expensive!
Just razzing...
 
What I don't understand is why someone from Utah can't voice their opinion about a region in Wyoming? If I resided in Cheyenne, yet never even been in region G, I can speak my opinion cause I live in WY. But if I'm in Utah, yet do spend 40+ days a year in the region specifically looking at deer, I'm not allowed to have an opinion about it's management.

Really weird. Not sure why it matters who has an opinion anyway, or where they live????

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Awesome just said region G is fine, just that one sentence shows how little he really cares, he is more interested in confrontation, by calling people p@&$ies for wanting to hunt a late hunt and calling people utards
 
>What I don't understand is why
>someone from Utah can't voice
>their opinion about a region
>in Wyoming? If I resided
>in Cheyenne, yet never even
>been in region G, I
>can speak my opinion cause
>I live in WY. But
>if I'm in Utah, yet
>do spend 40+ days a
>year in the region specifically
>looking at deer, I'm not
>allowed to have an opinion
>about it's management.
>
>Really weird. Not sure why it
>matters who has an opinion
>anyway, or where they live????
>
>
>Brian Latturner
>MonsterMuleys.com
>LIKE MonsterMuleys.com
>on Facebook!

It's the volume that is disturbing. The obsession is crossing the line. Name any other unit in any state for any species that has the number of threads region G has. There isn't any. The WGFD isnt asking for help, G is fine. Plus as you know we got those bonus 100 tags cut. You yourself said it wasn't needed.

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LAST EDITED ON Dec-29-17 AT 09:02AM (MST)[p]>Awesome just said region G is
>fine, just that one sentence
>shows how little he really
>cares, he is more interested
> in confrontation, by calling
>people p@&$ies for wanting to
>hunt a late hunt and
>calling people utards

Wow you just lumped me in with Founder and a bunch of other people.

Also you cant cuss and fill it in eith %%^#&. Get em founder!
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I'm a Utard, I don't get to hunt Wyoming every year, I'd love to be able to just to hunt k with a bow before all of Evanston?s trailer park trash gets their dodges loaded up with their ak 47?s e cigs and fat girl friends head out on the rifle hunt blowing smoke and wearing out every road out there
 
True, don't be posting the cuss words replacing certain letters with symbols. I'll be deleting all of those when seen, regardless of the rest of the message.

Anyway, region G is simply a topic at this time. Once we're done talking about it, it'll be forgotten for a few months. It shouldn't matter anyway. So what if it's talked about in every thread, every day?
Plus, I got the impression you were bothered with Utah guys voicing opinions, not the volume.

But true, I don't think cutting NR tags last year was needed. I'm not a fan of robbing opportunity when there are other options available for reducing success rates, overall harvest numbers and success rates of older age class deer. Makes no sense to me to offer a 3 week hunt for 80% of those wanting to hunt, while making 20% stay home, when a shorter season length might allow 90% of those wanting to hunt, to hunt.

I love hunting big bucks, and the bigger the better, but I'd much rather hunt a 170 buck every year than a 200 buck once every 10 years.

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I don't think many quality bucks get taken off that unit now and maybe it was always just hype. Scratch it, save a couple two-footers for the next season and "help out G".


Sit tall in the saddle, hold your head up high, keep your eyes fixed to where the trail meets the sky...
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-30-17 AT 02:36AM (MST)[p]If the bucks coming off the crawfords in pickups are detrimental to G, it is in worse shape than I thought. Good thing I don't hunt Wyoming. I'd be dissapointed and Aewsome would have something else to cry about.
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There's only about 18-20 tags given out for the Crawfords.
I don't think those very few tags make any difference at all. Most likely, half of those bucks wouldn't return to the following summer range anyway.

Get ready for change because it's going to happen!
 
Just as I thought. Justify the hunt by saying its "only small bucks". Typical utah thinking. They judge the health of the herd by the size of the buck. Hilarious.

Hey DC why do you always go quiet when I ask you why you live on prime winter range? Is it because you realize how hypocritical you are?





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>Just as I thought. Justify the
>hunt by saying its "only
>small bucks". Typical utah
>thinking. They judge the
>health of the herd by
>the size of the buck.
> Hilarious.
>
>Hey DC why do you always
>go quiet when I ask
>you why you live on
>prime winter range? Is it
>because you realize how hypocritical
>you are?
>
>
>
>
>
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I respect someone like DC that is living on winter range. Better him than some clueless person that's crying to the DWR about the deer eating their plants and wanting the deer removed or a person putting up an eight foot fence to keep the deer out.
DC would probably be out there helping the deer when needed.



Get ready for change because it's going to happen!
 
Funny thought I sure see alot of WY trucks on the north slope nothing like double dipping the elk herd. Good thing I don't draw wyoming elk with a bow. I'm surprised when someone from wyoming says they have never called in an elk and I've met more than a handful.

"We don't have a gun problem we have prescription drug problem."
 
>No one cares about elk.
>
>《《《《《《AWESOME》》》》》》


Lumpy Would School Your Ass on Mule Deer in a New York Second!

Now Ain't That Just F'N AWESOME!
 
I think we should mimic Wyoming. They do a fantastic job at managing their wildlife. They have all the bright ideas.

Crawfords...no more limited entry tags.

Unlimited resident tags! Ya, that's what we need! Maybe give the NR guys a few tags too.

Isn't that the great example of the mighty Awesome Wyoming dudes?

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
>I think we should mimic Wyoming.
> They do a
>fantastic job at managing their
>wildlife. They have all
>the bright ideas.
>
>Crawfords...no more limited entry tags.
>
>Unlimited resident tags! Ya, that's
>what we need! Maybe
>give the NR guys a
>few tags too.
>
>Isn't that the great example of
>the mighty Awesome Wyoming dudes?
>
>
>"The penalty good men pay for
>indifference to public affairs is
>to be ruled by evil
>men." - Plato

Wyoming must be doing something right! An OTC unit takes a non ressy 7 points to draw! And look how easy it gets utards panties in a wad! That is AWESOME!


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LAST EDITED ON Dec-31-17 AT 05:55AM (MST)[p]How cute. He missed me! My heart melts at the thought of awesomeless 2linelarry pining away and just waiting for me to get on here. What a sweet guy.

Good idea Awesome. We want to be just like you.... Unlimited resident tags. Thats the fix we need

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
>>LAST EDITED ON Dec-28-17
>>AT 09:48?PM (MST)
>>
>>I've never hunted Wyoming G and
>>I never will.
>>
>>I've never hunted the mustang ruined
>>units in Nevada and I
>>never will. However, I
>>have attended countless public meetings
>>regarding the problems in an
>>attempt influence better management practices,
>>because, even though I never
>>hunt Nevada and never will,
>>I care a lot about
>>sportsman in Nevada and the
>>future of their long term
>>hunting life style. When
>>I think their future is
>>threatened, I do what I
>>can to help.
>>
>>Never hunt the Utah north east
>>units, never will. Never
>>hunt south east Utah units,
>>never will. Never hunt
>>the Wasatch Front, never will.
>> But I care about
>>those that do and I
>>care that they will continue
>>to have abundant surplus deer,
>>elk and other big game
>>to hunt, not just this
>>fall and next but for
>>long, long into future.
>>
>>I sent money to Colorado, to
>>help feed deer in the
>>Gunnison Basin last winter.
>>Never hunted deer in the
>>Gunnison Basin, probably never will,
>>but thousands of other sportsmen
>>do, I care about them
>>and their deer herds, as
>>much as I care about
>>the Fish Lake, Monroe, Pahvant
>>or...... your Wyoming G area.
>>
>>
>>If it were up to me,
>>not another deer would be
>>killed on the Crawford unit
>>until the number of deer
>>on both sides of the
>>Wy//Ut border where back near
>>carrying capacity , and if
>>you gave a damn, about
>>anything other than your own
>>personal gratificatiion, you'd do the
>>same.
>>
>>I'll make you a deal Awesome,
>>you write a letter to
>>Utah's Wildlife Board, asking them
>>to close he Crawford to
>>all deer hunting, for a
>>minimum of five years, send
>>me a copy of your
>>letter, and I'll write a
>>letter, the next day, endorsing
>>your request and I'll bet
>>you a hundred dollars I
>>can make as compelling reason
>>for doing it, as your
>>letter can. I'd love
>>to loose a hundred dollars
>>for the sake of Wyoming's
>>deer, that winter in Utah.
>>
>>
>>DC
>
>How about email? Its almost 2018,
>no one writes letters anymore...
>
>
>《《《《《《AWESOME》》》》》》


This ^^^^ dude is a classless tool....
 
Nobody cares about elk bahaha you are funny. I hope you guys keep not caring about elk. So is it nobody cares or only caring when it's wyoming awesome. How 2 lumpy schooling me on mule deer gets brought up I'm not sure. Well my dad can whoop your dad's a55 is what that argument sounds like. So do you kill anything in a years time up in wyoming I'd love to see. Or are you one of those guys that sees an average deer at 1000 yds and let him live and call that passing him up. I'm guessing that's the kind of guy you are.

"We don't have a gun problem we have prescription drug problem."
 
I would bet mom only let's him hunt on weekends, her big guy needs to get his schooling in during the week so he can be the first to graduate junior high
 
The Crawfords hunt is mediocre at best....I think they should do away with that late hunt as well.
 
Exactly, it is mediocre. And those are the bucks from Wyoming. So, Wyoming has mediocre bucks. I dont know anyone that puts in for that hunt. I think it is a Northern Utah farmer guy that puts in for it. Someone that doesnt want to travel far. So many other great units to put in for in Utah that dont rely on a winter migration. The lack of quality in the Crawfords is evidence that things have really gone downhill in Wyoming.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
>Exactly, it is mediocre. And
>those are the bucks from
>Wyoming. So, Wyoming has
>mediocre bucks. I dont
>know anyone that puts in
>for that hunt. I
>think it is a Northern
>Utah farmer guy that puts
>in for it. Someone
>that doesnt want to travel
>far. So many other
>great units to put in
>for in Utah that dont
>rely on a winter migration.
> The lack of quality
>in the Crawfords is evidence
>that things have really gone
>downhill in Wyoming.
>
>"The penalty good men pay for
>indifference to public affairs is
>to be ruled by evil
>men." - Plato

I love this attitude.

" I haven't read anything about it on a forum showing all the big bucks".

Here is the G&H issue in a statement. Guys like this read something about "big deer" and next year they are putting in. They don't want to spend the time or effort. Just call Founder he will send you a location.

This is modern hunting. Let someone else tell you about an area. Hire someone to do the work. Roll in with a 500 super mag to you can launch out 2000 yards so you don't scuff the Kenetreks or soil the Sitka.

Ever think that "farmer" is just killing big deer yearly on the unit he knows and doesn't want guys like yourself rolling up in the Denali? Perhaps old boy ain't so desperate for fame that he is all over with pics and descriptions? Afterall, it didn't happen if it ain't on Instagram, right?


"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"
 
>>Exactly, it is mediocre. And
>>those are the bucks from
>>Wyoming. So, Wyoming has
>>mediocre bucks. I dont
>>know anyone that puts in
>>for that hunt. I
>>think it is a Northern
>>Utah farmer guy that puts
>>in for it. Someone
>>that doesnt want to travel
>>far. So many other
>>great units to put in
>>for in Utah that dont
>>rely on a winter migration.
>> The lack of quality
>>in the Crawfords is evidence
>>that things have really gone
>>downhill in Wyoming.
>>
>>"The penalty good men pay for
>>indifference to public affairs is
>>to be ruled by evil
>>men." - Plato
>
>I love this attitude.
>
>" I haven't read anything about
>it on a forum showing
>all the big bucks".
>
>Here is the G&H issue in
>a statement. Guys like
>this read something about "big
>deer" and next year they
>are putting in. They
>don't want to spend the
>time or effort. Just
>call Founder he will send
>you a location.
>
>This is modern hunting. Let
>someone else tell you about
>an area. Hire someone
>to do the work.
>Roll in with a 500
>super mag to you can
>launch out 2000 yards so
>you don't scuff the Kenetreks
>or soil the Sitka.
>
>Ever think that "farmer" is just
>killing big deer yearly on
>the unit he knows and
>doesn't want guys like yourself
>rolling up in the Denali?
> Perhaps old boy ain't
>so desperate for fame that
>he is all over with
>pics and descriptions? Afterall,
>it didn't happen if it
>ain't on Instagram, right?
>
>
>"The only thing that stops a
>bad guy with a gun
>is a good guy with
>a gun"

I about SPEWED My DEW hoss!

Don't forget about them posting their FaceBook BRAGGIN Rights!












It Won't Be Long and a 22" PISSCUTTER will be known as a Trophy that will be put on the Wall!




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elk and hoss

I have been in and on the Crawfords personally in the winter. When the "big bucks" are supposed to be there. I have seen what Wyoming sends to Utah. I can also see that for a limited entry unit in the state of Utah I can get better bucks and not have to depend on the weather to bring a buck over. Wyoming quality is down big time. But, the answer is....do nothing. Keep offering unlimited resident tags. Great idea....do nothing.

You guys cant drink this one away like you did your wives.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
Hossbur nailed it.

Mr CEO has been everywhere! Name a unit hes been there. Drove up to the crawfords for the day and didnt see any big bucks sitting in his denali drinking Starbucks.

For a CEO he sure doesnt know numbers. Hopefully his used underwear company has a CFO. Doubt it. There is not unlimited resident tags for region G. There is x many residents, x number that actually hunt and x number that go to G or H. 3 X's. Oh how funny....


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>elk and hoss
>
>I have been in and on
>the Crawfords personally in the
>winter. When the "big
>bucks" are supposed to be
>there. I have
>seen what Wyoming sends to
>Utah. I can also
>see that for a limited
>entry unit in the state
>of Utah I can get
>better bucks and not have
>to depend on the weather
>to bring a buck over.
> Wyoming quality is down
>big time. But, the
>answer is....do nothing. Keep
>offering unlimited resident tags.
>Great idea....do nothing.
>
>You guys cant drink this one
>away like you did your
>wives.
>
>"The penalty good men pay for
>indifference to public affairs is
>to be ruled by evil
>men." - Plato

So Utah's limited draws didn't create a Muley paradise on a Utah unit?

My guess is the Wyoming guys would love you to spread around how bad it is. Maybe encourage you to do so. Then the caravan of flat brimmers and ultra mag ers will read about the new hotspot in some other state and you all can go you tube it up there.

For a guy with HUGE bucks just in his back yard, you sure worry about everywhere else a lot.




"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"
 
>Hossbur nailed it.
>
>Mr CEO has been everywhere! Name
>a unit hes been there.
> Drove up to the
>crawfords for the day and
>didnt see any big bucks
>sitting in his denali drinking
>Starbucks.
>
>For a CEO he sure doesnt
>know numbers. Hopefully his
>used underwear company has a
>CFO. Doubt it.
>There is not unlimited resident
>tags for region G.
>There is x many residents,
>x number that actually hunt
>and x number that go
>to G or H.
>3 X's. Oh how funny....
>
>
>
>《《《《《《AWESOME》》》》》》

There is no limit on the tags sold to residents in Wyoming...right? Thats called UN LIMITED...or NOT LIMITED

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
>So Utah's limited draws didn't create
>a Muley paradise on a
>Utah unit?

ITS A UTAH UNIT WITH BUCKS FROM ..... wait for it....WYOMING. THANKS FOR THE AVERAGE BUCKS!

>
>My guess is the Wyoming guys
>would love you to spread
>around how bad it is.
> Maybe encourage you to
>do so. Then the
>caravan of flat brimmers and
>ultra mag ers will read
>about the new hotspot in
>some other state and you
>all can go you tube
>it up there.

>For a guy with HUGE bucks
>just in his back yard,
>you sure worry about everywhere
>else a lot.

I hunt as many states as I can every year. My backyard includes all states. This year...elk Montana, deer Montana, deer Utah, elk Utah, possibly deer Nevada, deer Wyoming G, deer Colorado, deer Idaho.

So ya, I pay attention.


"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
>>Hossbur nailed it.
>>
>>Mr CEO has been everywhere! Name
>>a unit hes been there.
>> Drove up to the
>>crawfords for the day and
>>didnt see any big bucks
>>sitting in his denali drinking
>>Starbucks.
>>
>>For a CEO he sure doesnt
>>know numbers. Hopefully his
>>used underwear company has a
>>CFO. Doubt it.
>>There is not unlimited resident
>>tags for region G.
>>There is x many residents,
>>x number that actually hunt
>>and x number that go
>>to G or H.
>>3 X's. Oh how funny....
>>
>>
>>
>>《《《《《《AWESOME》》》》》》
>
>There is no limit on the
>tags sold to residents in
>Wyoming...right? Thats called
>UN LIMITED...or NOT LIMITED
>
>"The penalty good men pay for
>indifference to public affairs is
>to be ruled by evil
>men." - Plato

Grasping at straws. So sad. I see you're not even a man of your word. Go sniff some used underwear.

《《《《《《AWESOME》》》》》》
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-03-18 AT 11:31AM (MST)[p]>
>Grasping at straws. So sad.
>I see you're not even
>a man of your word.
> Go sniff some used
>underwear.
>
>《《《《《《AWESOME》》》》》》
_______________________________________

Grasping at straws????

IT IS UNLIMITED....they are free to sell as many tags as they want! How is that grasping at straws. You say they ARE LIMITED...but the reality is that anyone in the state of Wyoming can hunt G... 500k residents. If you dont kill everything or sell less than 5000 tags then it is by sheer luck. There is NO LIMIT...THEREFORE IT IS CALLED.........wait for it.......UNLIMITED!!!!

You are duller than hoss's wannabe hunting blade.

When there is not a limit...... how do you LIMIT the hunters in a year like last year? You cant. You simply try to change it to 3 point or better. BUT YOU ARE SELLING UNLIMITED TAGS like it was 1960. It was good while it lasted.

I just finished writing to all the game commissioners in Wyoming for my second time.

I congratulated them on watching the deer herd hit record lows in the Wyoming Range under their watch. Three of them have gotten back to me. I am going to email my response now. See how that works....I am affecting legislators and commissioners in Wyoming....from Utah. Enjoy boys.

I would like to thank Rob for the email addresses of all the game commissioners.


"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
>>So Utah's limited draws didn't create
>>a Muley paradise on a
>>Utah unit?
>
>ITS A UTAH UNIT WITH BUCKS
>FROM ..... wait for it....WYOMING.
> THANKS FOR THE AVERAGE
>BUCKS!
>
>>
>>My guess is the Wyoming guys
>>would love you to spread
>>around how bad it is.
>> Maybe encourage you to
>>do so. Then the
>>caravan of flat brimmers and
>>ultra mag ers will read
>>about the new hotspot in
>>some other state and you
>>all can go you tube
>>it up there.
>
>>For a guy with HUGE bucks
>>just in his back yard,
>>you sure worry about everywhere
>>else a lot.
>
>I hunt as many states as
>I can every year.
>My backyard includes all states.
> This year...elk Montana, deer
>Montana, deer Utah, elk Utah,
>possibly deer Nevada, deer Wyoming
>G, deer Colorado, deer Idaho.
>
>
>So ya, I pay attention.
>
>
>"The penalty good men pay for
>indifference to public affairs is
>to be ruled by evil
>men." - Plato

Great. But, that doesn't change the fact that just like your "thoughts" on oil drilling that took 5 seconds to show how wrong you are, its true here as well.

You don't live there. Its what...600 miles or so from st George to G. Which means exactly what others are pointing out, you have VERY LITTLE knowledge on what you spew. I'm heading to Mesquite this winter, so I guess driving through St George gives me some expertise?

If you had credibility, your " Wyoming worse than Utah"...post took it.

I didn't see any 190 bucks when we went to Yellowstone last summer, and I stopped to take a leak in Afton, so Wyoming needs a limited draw.

Just looking at your itinerary this fall shows you can't possibly spend enough time anywhere to have practical knowledge.

I'm glad you read what NTO wrote, and because Rob is the man(he did get called by had), and your a fanboy to the alpha males, so your on board.

Me personally, ill listen to the guys who live there. Who have historical knowledge. Or even Founder who lives up there all summer.

Your 600+ miles away, you knowledge is limited.


"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"
 
Aspen the more you post the more ignorant you show yourself to be.

First off as a told you in another post somewhere you and your 5 points will probably not be enough to be hunting in G this year. Not unless you have found someone to point share with. Which is a good thing for us in Wyoming because it sure isn't anyone's idea of a good trip to have to run into people like yourself on the mountain. I will not show you or as awesome says over and over to you I will not spoon feed you the info about the numbers ( which also as awesome said you really seem to have a hard time with numbers) as I did with the deer herd but they are very easy to find and understand even for someone with very limited math skills if you want to look for yourself.

You really get attached to somewhat "famous" people and love to name drop them. Maybe you should talk to someone about that problem.

These commissioners were in charge when a recent history all time hi number of deer were recorded in that very herd ( again you and numbers don't mix well) not that they had much to do with that one way or another.

You sell used clothes for a living and must be very good at it, because the business seems rediculas to me but you seem to make a good living at it as you have made sure all of us know. A free bit of advice for you and take it or leave it... Put more time into that and less on other things you know very little to nothing about because I would think in selling used women's undies there can't be much room for error in business decisions you need to be lazor focused on your business or surely you will not be able to keep living the hi life.
 
Lets start with HOSS,

Everything you said makes you look like total ignorant old man.

1. My knowledge about G is limited. Really? Says who? I have hunted many times. I have hunted G. I have scouted it many more times. One season I hunted it for 3 weeks, scouted it for 3 weeks. I have read more than Tknez about it. He admits it. I had read the state mule deer plan and made him aware of the Wyoming Range Plan....which he then commented on but asked me for a specific report about the Wyoming RANGE which I HAD ALREADY PROVIDED! I only spend about 2 or three weeks up there per year wandering the basins looking for deer. Not to mention the time I spend in the winter range. I shared pics I took of a nice 12x11 on here I found last year. I photographed hundreds of bucks and video hours of footage. I spend more time there than some biologists for the Forest Service. So, you compare that to taking a leak in Yellowstone? Fool! Ignorant ol man. I spend time in other areas as well. I have canoes hidden at a lake in the wilderness of the Wind Rivers. I have been to lakes there that no one gets to. Suicide lake has some of the craziest reviews in the range because of the difficulty of getting there. I have been there. I spent a week in Yellowstone this year as well. One advantage of having a successful company is I get to travel....and live where I want. Thanks for assuming...it tends to make an ass.ume out of ya.

2. I have been in the Crawfords quite a few times. They are on the way from SLC which I lived in most of my life. Is it possible I have stopped to see if the Limited Entry unit in Utah by chance has any good bucks so I can cash in my points. Na, more ass.umptions.

3. Then you bring up the oil thing. I was responding to you as the post was taken down. You were proven wrong by Tknez. Your idiot post talked about how "down" the herd was and chose to end their study on EXACTLY the worst year ever just after the winter die off. As Tknez....your bud....you local Wyoming dude....said the deer...just the year before....were at new RECORD highs or close to it....OH MY! How could that be?! With all that naughty oil and gas....oh my!? Ya, so your study...that randomly ended after 17 years at the most "opportune" moment simply took advantage of the weather. The reality was...according to thier OWN DATA....THE DEER EVENTUALLY..within 2 years...ADAPT TO THE NEW EQUIPMENT! AND THE HERD WAS..the year before....AT AN OL TIME HIGH....so ya...ya didnt school me ya ignorant...ya just ignorant

The rest of your post was just as bad...so ya I have enough experience in your area...you claim founder does...so he spends 32 days....I only spend 20. So ya your oil thing was BUNK. And the rest isnt worth my time....get over yourself.

Can we get back to facts or ya just gonna go after my personal life....then I defend myself and my personal life....then ya get pissed about that too. Stick to the facts.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
Okay Tknez. Your turn.

1. you are a forgetful old man...ya gotta be over 65 years old. I ALREADY TOLD YOU I AM POINT SHARING!! I AM HUNTING G! Get over it. Thanks for your concern about me hunting G. Sheesh...again!

2. The oil thing....ya see above....thanks for proving Hoss and mr 2linelarry wrong on the oil and gas. You are right.....numbers were up just before the winter....THAT IS WHY I GAVE YOU THE CONCESSIONS I DID ON THE OTHER POST. I AGREED....but your deer numbers are in the tank now. Limit tags for a few years and it should come back. I tend to think like you....they may come back now with the 3 point restriction. But, you could have for sure great control over it if ya just limit the tags to an exact amount. But I kinda like the 3 point thing.

3. You and 2linelarry keep bringing up my personal life so here we go again....Thanks for your concern about the used clothing business....Since you brought it up you must be soooo interested so here ya go. One of my competitors did $576,000,000 last year. We did great as well. Great business model. I was in construction but I saw that it was uneven, cyclical, dependant on the Fed, and tough work with uneducated idiots like the ones working in most construction work. I hated working with people that cant add or figure out why they should drink and hit their wives. So, I moved on to buy a corporation that was recession resistant (turns out this business is recession proof...actually does better when people are tight on money). Cant be duplicated by Amazon. And has the ability to open as many locations as is possible ... in other words...to scale. And, most guys dont see me coming. They think "used clothes" is a tough biz. Keep on thinkn that.....as I grow my business 20% this year. LOL Thanks for being so interested!!!

Ya, just booked a hunt in Montana on private ground for deer and elk. You guys can have the publicly run Crawfords!!

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
Hoss.....you just ass...ume a lot...you said:

____________
Just looking at your itinerary this fall shows you can't possibly spend enough time anywhere to have practical knowledge.
____________________

So, here ya go...you attack...I defend..

Idaho: I have spent weeks each year...and multiple years...scouting and hunting....another advantage of owning my own biz

Wyoming: Ya...you saw that above

Montana: You are right...I do own 3 business's there but I have not set foot there. I know public elk success sucks...booked a hunt on private ground for deer and elk. Dont need local info when you are on local's ground.

Utah: Been hunting the same spot since 1993. We got it figured out. I didnt get my elk but the two guys I was with hit them the day before I got there this year...they took two nice 6 point bulls. My son got his first buck. Ya we had a blast.

Colorado: Been hunting there on and off for over 15 years. Spent a week there last year.

Nevada: Been hunting here, scouting here, and pushing this country since mid 90's. Ya we have our spots.

In Idaho we were the ONLY guys in the entire range that passed on the bucks since the winter nailed them. EVERYONE I spoke with laughed when I told them we passed 23 bucks and some of them were 25" class....because they were too small. Ya, that is what it is like whey you hike in huge canyons at 10000 feet that no one else will go to. We had it to ourselves. I shot a great buck there last year so I wasnt after a small 25" 4 point.

Having a great time. So, you say I dont possibly have the time....ya....I do....been doing it over 20 years. Have horses, have wall tents, have time.....so ya

It really melts my heart to know you care. Thanks for checking on me.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
>Hoss.....you just ass...ume a lot...you said:
>
>
>____________
>Just looking at your itinerary this
>fall shows you can't possibly
>spend enough time anywhere to
>have practical knowledge.
>____________________
>
>So, here ya go...you attack...I defend..
>
>
>Idaho: I have spent weeks
>each year...and multiple years...scouting and
>hunting....another advantage of owning my
>own biz
>
>Wyoming: Ya...you saw that above
>
>
>Montana: You are right...I do
>own 3 business's there but
>I have not set foot
>there. I know public
>elk success sucks...booked a hunt
>on private ground for deer
>and elk. Dont need
>local info when you are
>on local's ground.
>
>Utah: Been hunting the same
>spot since 1993. We
>got it figured out.
>I didnt get my elk
>but the two guys I
>was with hit them the
>day before I got there
>this year...they took two nice
>6 point bulls. My
>son got his first buck.
> Ya we had a
>blast.
>
>Colorado: Been hunting there on
>and off for over 15
>years. Spent a week
>there last year.
>
>Nevada: Been hunting here, scouting
>here, and pushing this country
>since mid 90's. Ya
>we have our spots.
>
>In Idaho we were the ONLY
>guys in the entire range
>that passed on the bucks
>since the winter nailed them.
> EVERYONE I spoke
>with laughed when I told
>them we passed 23 bucks
>and some of them were
>25" class....because they were too
>small. Ya, that
>is what it is like
>whey you hike in huge
>canyons at 10000 feet that
>no one else will go
>to. We had it
>to ourselves. I
>shot a great buck there
>last year so I wasnt
>after a small 25" 4
>point.
>
>Having a great time. So,
>you say I dont possibly
>have the time....ya....I do....been doing
>it over 20 years.
> Have horses, have wall
>tents, have time.....so ya
>
>It really melts my heart to
>know you care.
>Thanks for checking on me.
>
>
>"The penalty good men pay for
>indifference to public affairs is
>to be ruled by evil
>men." - Plato

Im just quoting this so everyone can read twice how amazing Asspenadventures is!

Hoss you must of really got to him. He blew his load on two posts, came back for a 3rd an hour later. You got em!

Founder can we give Asspenadventures his own forum?

Own website? How bout www.usedunddiesadventures.com



《《《《《《AWESOME》》》》》》
 
Founder can we get this thread locked? Asspenadventures self exploits has ruined it. He should really have his own thread.

《《《《《《AWESOME》》》》》》
 
You melt my heart sweet pea!

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
When Hoss blows his nut and says something stupid like...."you cant possibly spend enough time in each of those states to know....bla bla"

Then I come back with exactly what I do....

And it sounds so good you think it's a lie....

LOL....ya you melt my lil heart. you jealous lil girl.. stop on in...we got some used panties for your lil smelly 2line larry buns LOL!

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
Cum on lil 2linelarry.... gimme two more lines!

I'll give ya some sized small panties for your smelly buns....one pair for each line.

Ot O....this is three lines...can you read this far?

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
Aspen, I hope your happy, Awesome just told his momma on you, now she's gonna make him stay off the internet til she can sit with him
 
At 43, I've now joined the "old men". Thank GAWD!!

Old men have zero patience for this level of clownishness. They don't feel the need to write entire pages full of self righteous b's. They can do math.

And yeah. You don't spend 20 days a year scouting 5 different states. A simple calender shows that. So in your long winded back patting session, you said exactly what I said. You don't have practical knowledge. You've been there. At some point. So you "know" what's up. Typical

Btw. Since your reading comprehension is as poor as your math, that drilling study SPECIFICALLY set out to disprove the "they get used to it" mantra. And it did. The results showed deer concentrated further away from pads. And were especially nervous at night.

Last. BULL!! Show me your "competitor" that did HALF A BILLION last year. Or are you including the LDS church and the DI? But, you fancy yourself a gawd, so maybe the Mormons are competition? I KNOW... you quit construction(got your azz run off) then bought a multimillion dollar corporation, and spend 6 months a year traveling the west. I actually know multimillionaire CEO( of course they are drunk wife beaters), and you DONT have that kind of time. But preach on man, it sure sounded great. You should write it down and send it to penthouse, they publish fantasies.

Born and raised in Utah. Guys like you make me hate Utards.

AWESOMENESS, I think you got him with the Starbucks shot.

I'm embracing my old man status. HAPPILY!!!



"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"
 
>Aspen, I hope your happy, Awesome
>just told his momma on
>you, now she's gonna make
>him stay off the internet
>til she can sit with
>him


Lmao!!! Doesn?t it get old listening to the blow yards???
 

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