Would you launch an arrow?

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Opening morning of the archery hunt, you're setup 60 yards away. You have a 10 second window to send an arrow or not. What do you do?

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Deer good enough: Absolutely
Distance: Too far for me, Pass

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
 
Yep if I was good enough shot at 60 yds

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What kinda Question is this?

You Could Stand a PISSCUTTER up at 120 Yards & There wouldn't be One STICKFLIPPER in the State that Wouldn't Start FLIPPIN FEATHERS!











It Ain't Easy being Me!:D:D:D
 
Every truck out the during bow season would be slinging them like a dart board during happy hour..
Smacked
 
> What kinda Question is this?
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>You Could Stand a PISSCUTTER up
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>the State that Wouldn't Start
>FLIPPIN FEATHERS!
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>It Ain't Easy being Me!:D:D:D

Not everyone is into killing pissheads!
 
>> What kinda Question is this?
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>>You Could Stand a PISSCUTTER up
>>at 120 Yards & There
>>wouldn't be One STICKFLIPPER in
>>the State that Wouldn't Start
>>FLIPPIN FEATHERS!
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>>It Ain't Easy being Me!:D:D:D
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>Not everyone is into killing pissheads!
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True!

But 99.9997% of TARDS are!










It Ain't Easy being Me!:D:D:D
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-03-18 AT 10:24PM (MST)[p]I think it is a great shot. I shoot year round at much further distances.
I also think most archery hunters should pass.

edit to add that my arrows are always tipped with same broadheads I hunt with, they resharpen nicely. (VPA 150 grain)
 
That's about my limit but I'd aim just in front of the hind quarters and let it fly. Great angle, like one old timer told me once ? you can't kill em unless you shoot at them?
 
>That's about my limit but I'd
>aim just in front of
>the hind quarters and let
>it fly. Great angle, like
>one old timer told me
>once ? you can't kill
>em unless you shoot at
>them?

Yep that's why we find so many dead heads
 
Too far for me as well. Too much can happen at 60 yards with a bow.

Sorry Elk, us Wyoming guys march to the beat of a different drummer. If I lived in Utah, I'd have to start flinging arrows. Haha.
 
Arrow released!

-Hawkeye-

My Favorite Expo Tag Quotes:

"It is fair to ask how much comes in with the five dollar application fees and how much went onto the ground.? Don Peay of SFW during 3/31/2005 Wildlife Board Meeting.

"There will be a full accounting of how the applications fees are spent.? Don Peay of SFW - 9/26/2006 - Monstermuleys.com
 
> What kinda Question is this?
>
>
>You Could Stand a PISSCUTTER up
>at 120 Yards & There
>wouldn't be One STICKFLIPPER in
>the State that Wouldn't Start
>FLIPPIN FEATHERS!
>

>It Ain't Easy being Me!:D:D:D

Come on Bess, yea there is, me. I wouldn't shoot at any deer at 120 yards with my bow. Now that 60, arrow away!
 
Hello Founder!
Would I launch an arrow at 60 yds? Absolutely not! I can hit a paper plate every time at 60 yds with my bow. What I can't do is guarantee that the animal won't take a step, or jump string, or any number of a dozen other things that seem to go wrong as the distance gets farther.
50 years of hard experience has taught me to pass on shots that far. Too many times I have endured the sick feeling of wounding, tracking, & losing an animal I had no business shooting at.
No more!
 
>Hello Founder!
>Would I launch an arrow at
>60 yds? Absolutely not! I
>can hit a paper plate
>every time at 60 yds
>with my bow. What I
>can't do is guarantee that
>the animal won't take a
>step, or jump string, or
>any number of a dozen
>other things that seem to
>go wrong as the distance
>gets farther.
>50 years of hard experience has
>taught me to pass on
>shots that far. Too many
>times I have endured the
>sick feeling of wounding, tracking,
>& losing an animal I
>had no business shooting at.
>
>No more!



I have bow hunted over 40 years. I have wounded 1 deer ever, that would have been my 2nd archery buck.
I vowed on that day it would never happen again...it has not.

At 90 yards I can put ALL of my broadhead tipped arrows in a 5 inch circle.

My longest kill to date was an elk at 74 yards. 1 shot 1 kill,
same with each animal I have harvested since then. I don't shoot if I am not sure.
My average mulie is probably taken at around 60 yards.
As long as the animal is unaware that I am there 60 yards is a slam dunk kill shot. If he is aware of me, I pass on the shot.

Just because it is not a great shot for you and your paper plate, does not mean it is not a very good shot for those that are skilled enough.

Also I have heard of but have never seen a mule deer "jump the string." My bow is also very quiet. I take great care to get it that way, as well as a PERFECTLY tuned bow and each arrow.
Most do not...
 
The last buck I drilled with a bow I ranged at 58.5 yards. It was a large non-typical and it was a one shot clean kill.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-05-18 AT 05:55PM (MST)[p]To all you Robin Hoods out there!
I applaud your good luck! I hope it holds up for you.
However,
I can't tell you how many times I have met folks on the mountain that were looking for an animal that has been hit, but not yet recovered. Each time they swear it was a perfect hit and they have practiced out to XX yards and they know their shot was true! Sometimes they eventually find the animal. Many times, they do not. Every time the animal suffered for far too long! Sadly, as I stated in my original response, I have been that person as well. One time on a deer, and three times on elk. I started bow hunting in 1972. I have successfully taken 8 deer, and 6 elk with a bow during that time. I have lost count of the number of deer I have taken with a rifle.

Dryfly,
If you have been bow hunting for 40 years, and you have never had, or seen, a bull, or a buck "jump string", or take a step unexpectedly after the arrow was released, then you have been extremely lucky, , , , or something???!!! I will let all the other EXPERIENCED HUNTERS out there draw their own conclusions.

The original question was: "Would you send an arrow at 60 yards?". I answered him, and I stand by my answer.


ElkChaser
 
And I stand by mine. I have 40 + years of a lucky streak going I suppose. (I am 57)
I have harvested a deer or an elk or both every year, with about 3 years of exceptions. All archery kills. Gave up the rifle hunting when I started bowhunting and haven't looked back.
Again do not project your archery skills onto others.
I shoot year round more days than not for a reason. I do my own work on my own bow for a reason. I build my own arrows for a reason. As I said in my original post, most do not do this, which is why I think most hunters should pass on the shot. As far as that goes, based on what I have seen in the field, most archers should pass on anything over about 30 yards...some less. And some should not be allowed to shoot an arrow at any game animal.
Those that can and know it, should do what they think is right without being held to the lesser dedicated/skilled folks limitations.
 
>Deer good enough: Absolutely
>Distance: Too far for me, Pass
>
>
>txhunter58
>
>venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore
>I am)

Same for me.
 
Hello Dryfly,
He asked a question and I answered it. I backed up my answer with personal experience. And I stand by that experience.
If you ever need help on the mountain to look for that first wounded loss, I will be happy to help you. Just remember you are in the presence of a mere mortal.

Elkchaser
 
Quote: "At 90 yards I can put ALL of my broadhead tipped arrows in a 5 inch circle."

Here is a typical-looking 90 meter target after being shot up by world class Olympic shooters. The 10-ring is 4.8 inches in diameter. Plus these weenies are shooting field points, much easier than shooting broadheads like you. With your shooting, keeping them ALL in the 10-ring, every single time....you'd easily blow away the entire World field. Congrats in advance!

archerytarget.jpg
 
If you look at the clip of the buck that founder posted you will note that he is totally relaxed and feeding. At sixty yards a good archer should be able to put 8 out of 10 arrows in that bucks vitals. I may not be world class but I shoot a lot and I feel confident in my ability to make that shot.... nuff said!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-06-18 AT 10:52AM (MST)[p]Hello Dik!
"If you look at the clip of the buck that founder posted you will note that he is totally relaxed and feeding."
Yes he is, but, if you were really paying attention, you will also note that that deer does not stand still for more a second or two during that entire clip! At no point, does that deer offer an opportunity to make a 60 yard shot!!!
I have no doubt that you are an excellent shot with a bow. I know there are some very, very talented archers out there. But, I don't know anyone that can predict, or control when an animal is going to take a step, or turn, or react to the sound of the shot. And if you do have those kind of skills, why can't you get closer? And I sure as hell don't know anyone that can put every shot into a 5" circle at 90 yards, with a broadhead!
We have a very nice field archery range here in Phoenix. If there is ANYONE out there that wants to come show me they can put 10 consecutive shots into a 5" circle, at 90 yards, with a broadhead, then put your money where your mouth is and we will video the whole demonstration and post it up here...?.nuff said!
 
elkchaser, look at that clip again, that buck is not moving for the first 4 seconds and the last 4 seconds of that clip...plenty long enough to release an arrow and at 60 yards it is unlikely that the buck will jump or bolt from an arrow being released from a quiet bow. Just because you would not release an arrow does not mean I should not. Quartering away at 60 yards is an excellent opportunity to shoot IF the bowhunter is proficient enough to execute the shot.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I respect that, but there are a lot of good archers who can and would make that shot.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-11-18 AT 01:26PM (MST)[p]Dikndirt
"but there are a lot of good archers who can and would make that shot". You are right! And there are many YouTube videos out there showing hunters making shots like this one, and much, much further! What we aren't seeing in those videos are the animals that are wounded and lost! I see the "long range shooting" trend as a bad thing for hunting.

Founder asked a question. I answered him and I gave my reasons.

I used to teach hunter safety back in the early 90's. We had a fun quiz we would give where we would show a film of various hunting situations. We would freeze frame the action and then have the students mark on a piece of paper what they would do in each situation. Animal too far? Yes/No. Moving too fast? Yes/No. Shot angle? shoot/ don't shoot. Safe backstop? Yes/No. Animal skylined? Yes/No.
You get the idea!
The purpose of that exercise was to try to get the students to think about each situation and to ask themselves, , , , not IF they could make the shot? But SHOULD they take it?

I will concede that, as the technology has improved, the distance at which I feel comfortable taking the shot, has increased. Back in the 70's when I was shooting my old Bear recurve, a 25-30 yard shot was about it. That seems laughable now even to me!
I just hope that every person reading this is absolutely sure he can make that shot before he releases.

I have far more respect for the hunter that passes on the questionable shot, and ends up eating tag soup.

Elkchaser
 
>LAST EDITED ON Jun-06-18
>AT 10:52?AM (MST)
>
>Hello Dik!
>"If you look at the clip
>of the buck that founder
>posted you will note that
>he is totally relaxed and
>feeding."
>Yes he is, but, if you
>were really paying attention, you
>will also note that that
>deer does not stand still
>for more a second or
>two during that entire clip!
>At no point, does that
>deer offer an opportunity to
>make a 60 yard shot!!!
>
>I have no doubt that you
>are an excellent shot with
>a bow. I know there
>are some very, very talented
>archers out there. But, I
>don't know anyone that can
>predict, or control when an
>animal is going to take
>a step, or turn, or
>react to the sound of
>the shot. And if you
>do have those kind of
>skills, why can't you get
>closer? And I sure as
>hell don't know anyone that
>can put every shot into
>a 5" circle at 90
>yards, with a broadhead!
>We have a very nice field
>archery range here in Phoenix.
>If there is ANYONE out
>there that wants to come
>show me they can put
>10 consecutive shots into a
>5" circle, at 90 yards,
>with a broadhead, then put
>your money where your mouth
>is and we will video
>the whole demonstration and post
>it up here...?.nuff said!

You have a lot of mouth. I am more than willing to put my $ where my mouth is. My broadheads against your fieldtips for whatever amount you are willing to bet. Any distance over 50 yards and any amount of shots you want 1-100.

I am in Utah. Not a chance in hell I am going to Arizona.
Next time you are here bring your money.

Not going to argue on the internet any further. Either you show up or not, I dont care.
 
elkchaser, I have stated my position and stand by it....I do not watch youtube videos and i couldn't care less what hunters post on youtube. I do know that after almost 50 years of bowhunting I can reasonably predict what an animal is likely to do between release and impact of arrow. In founders clip if I have 4-5 seconds and I am set up on this buck as stated, I am confident that the buck is in deep trouble. I too shot a recurve in the 70"s but that was then and this is now....and 60 yards is within my maximum effective range.
 
Pretty severe quarter. 40 yards and less I'd take it but at 60 I'd pass. Everyone's skill level is different and 60 for me better be broadside or slightly quartering. I guess my skill level isn't up with most.
 
If you are comfortable with the shot, then take it. If you are not comfortable with the shot, then pass. There is no need to project our own skills (or lack thereof), judgments, experiences, etc., on other sportsmen. We each have to make our own decisions in the field and then live with the consequences.

I'd still take the shot!

-Hawkeye-

My Favorite Expo Tag Quotes:

"It is fair to ask how much comes in with the five dollar application fees and how much went onto the ground.? Don Peay of SFW during 3/31/2005 Wildlife Board Meeting.

"There will be a full accounting of how the applications fees are spent.? Don Peay of SFW - 9/26/2006 - Monstermuleys.com
 
Hawkeye, I am in total agreement with your last post. I only state my experience and skill level to make the point that I would be comfortable taking that shot. I usually never get involved in this type of an internet argument, my logic is to each his own....If I take that shot and have a negative outcome I will be the one who suffers the most, but I am not making that judgement for anyone else. Once again I would also still take that shot!!
 

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