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Okay guys, im gonna go do some cow elk hunting this weekend. I am thinking about using a .270 with 130 grain remington core lockt bullets. BUT, i am also thinking about using my brothers 30-06 with remington 180 grain core lockt shells. My shots will consist of shooting 300 and closer. I took a mule deer last weekend at 320 yards with my .270. My first shot was pretty low in the chest, it laid down and hit it in the neck. I shot the 30-06 today at a target. at 240 yards from left to right i was right on with the bulls eye, about 6 inches away on each side, i think this was because there was about a 20 mile per hour wind. So if i keep my shots within 300 yards will the .270 be alright, the reason i am thinking about that is becuase its my gun and i luv it. But i would like the bigger diameter bullet to get the cow down quicker, so which one?

Thanks, the 10 point native from Montana :^)
 
Either caliber will work fine. It sounds like you shoot often enough to be comfortable with either gun. The .270 is enough to knock down an elk.

Mike
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LAST EDITED ON Oct-28-04 AT 10:08PM (MST)[p]The 30-06 has probably killed more elk then any other round. The .270 is a flatter shoting round. Shoot the .270, Invest in some nosler partion bullets (factory nosler federals) and aim true, it will kill'em at 300 yards no problem.

Just one mans opinion,
Wyomingben
 
I've killed elk and deer 400+ yds with the 30-06 and 165gr Federal Premiums. Ive got both boys shooting the .260 Remington now in 129gr. Its done the trick on elk out past 300 yards.

Mike
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10pt:

I killed a billy mtn goat with 1 shot with my 270 loaded with the trophy bonded bullets. I can assure you, theres no animal tougher to kill pound for pound then a goat. It will get the job done with proper placement. Good luck!
 
Shoot the .270, but up the ante to the 150 grain bullet. Lots of choices at 150 gr. I've killed two elk in recent years with my .270. A 4 pt bull and a spike. Both one shot kills and the animals traveled less than 40 yards.

I shoot the 130 gr Hornady light magnum ballistic tips on Muleys, from my .270 of course!
 
Has anyone shot game with their .270 and a 130 gr Nosler Ballistic tip? I've got a pre 64 sighted in with Fed Premiums and this bullet. I'm going deer hunting with it next week. I hope these bullets perform well.
 
I would strongly urge you not to use your 270 with the 130GR. Core lokts. I have had a bad experience using this same setup on elk and ended up wounding the animal (never to find), with what I thought were 2 well placed shots. I would either bump up to 150 gr. bullets in 270 or put that available 30-06 to good use.

You could perhaps make the 130 grainers work if you were to put a well placed shot BEHIND the shoulder or plug the cow in the ear area of her head. I don't think the 130 grain bullets would be tough enough to penetrate the tough bone structure on an elk! Like I said I am speaking from a bad experience.
 
The 270 with 150 nozler partitions will do the job out to 300 with no problem. The last two elk I shot were at 200+ and both went down in their tracks with that round. A bull in the base of the neck and a cow right through the boiler room.
 
Ditto what other people said, Your 270 will be fine but bump up to a 140 or 150 grain premium bullett. Nosler, TBBC or something like that. I use the 150 noslers in my 270 for elk.
 
The .270 is plenty big for dropping and Elk, but like has been mentioned move up to a 150 grain bullet. Personally I use the 150 grain spitzer boat tails. They have plenty of punch out to 400 yards.

I have also shot Elk with good ole reliable. The 30-06 is just as good of an all around gun as you can get.

My advice is use the gun you are most comfortable with. Good shot placement will always beat out the "bigger is better" line.

Good luck
 
Thanks for the replys. I would go with the 150 grain but im going hunting tomorrow so i wont be able to get them. I am probably more comfortable with with .270 since its mine and ive shot quite a few animals with it, the .270 is about 3 years old. The 30-06 is probably a year old, its my brothers gun, it hasnt been shot to much since he is at college. So the .270 130 grain wouldnt be enough to punch through an elks shoulder? Would the bullet just destruct on impact pretty much or what?

thanks. any more advice?
 
The .270 (130 grains) should not be aimed at the shoulder on elk sized game. The bullet has a high possibility of complete failure by it's core separating from it's jacket.

Shoot behind the shoulder in the lung/heart area and you should be okay. I would go up in bullet weight though, especially if expecting long shots. (over 200 yards)

Chef
"I Love Animals...They're Delicious!"
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-29-04 AT 03:29PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Oct-29-04 AT 03:19?PM (MST)

I've been shooting the Remington 150's out of my 270 for a few years now and have pretty much knocked 'em flat every time I pointed it at deer, elk, antelope and bear anywhere from 25-500 yards. I shot the 130's for years before that, and it seems like they zip right thru 'em and don't do much damage, still killed them, but i don't like to see the critter walk so much as a step after I shoot. I switched to the 150's and they seem to really WHACK 'em hard. Good luck!

...and i've never seen the 130's seperate when hitting the shoulder of an elk...i've got a collection of 130's and 150's that are perfectly mushroomed.

btw, where you at? I'm in Great Falls
 
thanks guys, i think im going to go with the 30-06. If i did go from a 130 grain to a 150 grain wouldnt my bullets shoot different from the .270? I will be shooting 180 grain core lokt shells from the 30-06. If i were to shoot 180 grain federal power shok wouldnt the 30-06 shoot different?

thanks a buch
 
I don't think you'd notice that much difference going from 130grain bullets to 150 grain bullets. I'd shoot a few at 100-yds just to see if I needed to tweak my scope some. In my experience if you are shooting quality ammunition that a change in bullet weight may change your height adjustment some. Your left right should still be on though.

Like is said before it is best to shoot a gun you are familiar with and comfortable shooting.

Good luck
 
Thanks crexton, i was wondering if you clean a barrel will the gun still be shooting the same way as before or will it need to be sighted in again?

thanks
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-29-04 AT 04:44PM (MST)[p]You should be shooting either rifle ,to make sure of shot placement either way, so just use the rifle that you have confidence in and get the bigger bullets .
Have a good hunt.
 
My mind is set on the 30-06 but my heart wants to go back to my good old .270 but all you guys have me really nervous to shoot the .270 at a elk! well i guess ill have to decide sometime soon!
 
I was just wondering in anybody had any comments about jack O'cconer shooting about everything with a .270 130 grain shell?
 
Shoot the gun your more comfortable with shooting, both have been time proven killers of elk. My .270 has'nt ever let me down, just rember a guns only as good as the man behind it, with that said shot placement is everything.
 
My 2 cents worth. Based on years of hunting eastern whitetails with a .270, I would strongly advise against using 130gr bullets on elk. I have had these bullets completely disintegrate on quartering on whitetails. I use 140 or 150 gr bullets on whitetails, and use 180gr nosler partitions out of a .300 RUM on elk.

I think the other guys are dead on recommending a quality bullet of 140gr or better if you use a .270 on elk.
 
A few thoughts

A well placed bullet is the best ticket. Which may mean the gun you are most comfortable with.

If thats the 270 use the bigger bullets. But if using the 130s use a controlled expansion like Bear Claw or X type bullets. Which is what I'd use in bigger bullets also.

What about O'Connor. Yep if I lived in the area and didn't have to travel so far, if I could walk away without having to take a shot, if perfect shots were guaranteed then the 270 will kill any animal on the face of the earth. Thats about how I feel with my 243 also. But for non meat hunts I pull out my 300 or larger.

Accuracy with different bullets. Same grain bullet in different brand may hit far enough off to matter. Different grain bullet in same or other brand may hit the same as your 130s OR may hit way off also. There is absolutely NO way to tell whether its gonna hit high, low, left or right. Each barrel has its own harmonics and is a beast of its own. The only way to know for sure is to shoot it. I reload tons. Even put the same formula into different brand cases of the same weight, you can have differences due to internal case capacity/hardness of brass.

As to bullet core seperations you'll find many less seperations with flat based bullets than with Boattails and BT bullets don't really make much difference unless you are at 300 or beyond. Other than that the bonded core and controlled expansion types as mentioned above and including partition, failsafes etc..... are a better bullet for larger game.

Clean barrel issues. Some rifles shoot the first shot of a clean barrel dead on. Others take 1-3 to settle in. To be on the safe side I usually clean the best I can and then shoot about 2 rounds before hunting to be safe. If you keep oil in the tube to prevent rust, you'd better see how the barrel shoots with oil in it!

At this point in the game I'd take the 270 and 130s that you have since you are familiar with it and its zero'd. Just stay away from quartering shots and bone shots. The lung area is big and a chip shot to hit out to 200 easy.

Jeff
 
Well since you guys have him all scared of his set up i thought i would reassure him a little about his chances with the 270. take a look at these pics from the first combined rifle season this year, NONE of these animals were killed with anything over a 270/130gr. combo!! Infact the picture with the woman is my wife with her trusty 243/100gr. combo that took out the shoulder just fine. The other bull and two deer were taken with exactly the combo you asked about. You have probably already gone hunting by now but in the future don't be afraid of the good ole'270 my family has been using nothing bigger than that for years on elk and our freezers are full every year!!! Bownut

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The .270 has plenty of knock down power, especially if you shoot straight. Heck, my wife nailed her bull this last week with a 25-06. My Dad took his Canadian moose with his .270 with 150s.
 
Thanks for the info. well saturday we were driving and checking each meadow since they could be over any one of them. The last place we go we look over the hill and there is a bull with about 12 cows. We crawl up to the hill and and open the bipods on the 30-06. I pick the lead cow. The cow is 250 out. I steady the cross hairs on the center of his chest... Booooom. The cow is still standing there. So... Booooom. After the shot i saw dirt fly in front of me, as the bullet came out it just caught the front of the hill both times!! So we go and start to walk a ridge when i glimpse movement, 4 bulls, 3 go one way and the lone bull another, so i stayed right between them. My parnter had a cow at 80 yards just standing there :( so i follow the elk through the trees and what do you know, cows! i spooked them a little since it is real think stuff and really crunchy. I eventually catch up to them but once again spooked, i could have easily shot a bull, to bad they werent there during bow season! to bad i didnt have rifle bull tag. So that day was shot and i went out this morning, this time taking the good old .270 with 130 grain core lokt shells, all i saw were the butts as a few elk ran off, i will be going next weekend, all we need is some snow it track them and to make the ground alot quiter, from now on im taking the good old .270!

thanks for the replys, thanks for all the info rost 495 and bowhuntinnut for the reassurance.
 
Like I said in Post #3, the 270 is a flatter shooting round. Its like a line drive where and -06 is more of a rainbow.

WB
 
rost495, lol, yeah i agree it was totally my fault, another yard or 2 and i would of cleared them hill, but i know with the .270 i will most likely make a good hit has with the 06 id probably miss or shoot it in the rear or something, i did find an awesome 5 point shed with a huge second point, and on the first point you can see where the a devil point was broken off.

thanks for the replys, id like to here more stories about the good ole .270 :)
 
No offense, but in my opinion shooting at elk with a 100gr bullet is completely irresponsible. One day you WILL make a mistake and that 100gr bullet WILL cost you an animal. You could kill an elk with a .22 but it makes no sense to risk it.

I wouldn't shoot at a 150lb whitetail with a 100gr bullet, let alone a 700lb elk. I have always believed in using enough gun to kill cleanly every time, not just when everything goes perfectly. I have not lost a single animal in 30 years so I must be doing something right. I can think of several instances where using a 100gr bullet would certainly have left an animal dying slowly in the woods.

Sorry but I think that is plain dumb.
 
i've personally sen alot more cripples in the last decade since the magnums have really grown in popularity. all the gun in the world wont make the difference when the shot is off the mark. there are alot of guys out there that shoot the cannons well, and they have nothing to worry about. the problem is, in my experience, many of the people carrying big firepower bought it as a crutch to prop up their lousy shooting. i'll take a 100 grain 243 through the lungs every time over the latest and greatest super duper ultra mag in the butt. and its not only shot placement, its shot selection. alot of people think they can shoot the cannon at any animal, at any angle, even at long range. in the real world it just doesn't work that way.
 
Those are very good points. I agree with you completely. When I purchased my .300 it was the first rifle I had ever owned larger than a .270. It took about a 60 rounds at the range before I became completely comnfortable with it. I shoot it well now and have taken 7 animals with it and none have traveled more than 10 yards. Six fell in their tracks. That is what I want in a rifle.

Poor shooting is going to cripple animals, that is a fact. I am shocked at the number of hunters I know who literally never shoot their rifles until a week before the season and then only once or twice to check the sight in. I also know a few who don't even bother to check their rifle's zero.
 
Lets just not damn the mags though. There are plenty of folks that can shoot them very well. It takes some dedication and a super mind to learn to shoot them, but it can be done. Depends on how much you want to.

It is the shooter, not the gun. Shot placement is everything.

Its just that the mags or larger rounds allow hunters to take shots they'd have to pass on with the smaller rounds.

BUT if you CAN'T handle the recoil, stick with what you can handle.

To the 243, I agree its small. But I totally trust mine. I know what it can do. And under the right circumstances its fine for just about anything. Put in the ribs, it'll kill everytime. Does that make it perfect? Nope. Neither was the 30-30. Or round ball MZ's.

Jeff
 
i really like my .270. had it for years and it hits where i point it. it's been shot thousands of times and doesn't group real well at the range anymore, but it's what i always take. i really like the caliber. good enough for anything in north america if you use it right. but i gotta disagree with some comments. like saying a .270 shoots flatter than on '06 and then recomending using 150 gr bullets in the .270. an '06 with 150's will shoot considerably flatter than a .270 you can get about 200fps more out of an '06. an '06 with 165's is about the equal, in trajectory, as a .270 with 150's. i shoot 140's. loaded hotter than hell. really a little too hot, but my gun handles em ok. really flat primers, etc. can't even use resized military '06 brass with the load because the brass is thicker and causes way too much pressure. i think it's safe to say a .270 is a .270 and an '06 is an '06. both are great, but there are big differences, especially for cartidges with the same case and powder capacity. i have no problem with 130's for elk either. great round. just have to shoot straight. use what gun you like to shoot and don't worry about the size of the bullet. just don't gut shoot em.
 
You really shouldn't need to sight you rgun in after you clean it. With a clean barrel your gun should shoot fine. I always clean my guns after target practice so that I have a clean gun to use every time I go out. I give them the twice over before the ole hunting season comes around. A clean barrel is one key to maintaining accuracy.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-22-04 AT 04:13PM (MST)[p]I would use a 30.06 with 180 gr. trophy bonded bear claw. Works well for me.
 
Bowhuntinnut,

Nice pics, but, do you always set up the photos with the rifles pointing at the hunters? It would make me a little uncomfortable.

BeanMan, no holes in me
 
To answer your question?. Yes the 270 is plenty. I shoot 130 gr ballistic tip silvertip and it work just fine.
 
I like to hunt elk with a 338win mag, but I also hunt with a bow,and I am more than comfortable to hunt elk with it. I have taken deer and antelope with a 270 and I think it is a flat shooting, hard hitting round. If you shoot the gun well and are comfortable with it, I would take it over a loaner gun anyday.

Good luck! and good hunting.
 
I have to agree with old Jack on his caliber and bullet weight choice in the .270 with 130 grain bullet. The 130 grain is faster, flatter shooting and packs more energy farther out then the heavier bullets. In many calibers, bigger sometimes is better but in the case of the .270, the 130 grain is the real sweet spot for that gun. Old Jack new what he was talking about!
 
my dad got a big 6x6 nov 19th and he used his ol' winchester featherweight .270. 130 gr sierra handloads. hit it twice. first shot was a little high and near the spine. dumped it but it got up hurt bad. next one hit it direct in the lungs. staggered 50 yards or so and croaked. another bull for the cartridge folks love to hate. if you have a .300 or whatever, they're great, but don't sell the cartridge that Jack loved short. it's been gettin' it done since 1925. shot placement is the ticket with all guns.
 

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