Thanks USO

sremim

Very Active Member
Messages
2,148
This is off the AZGFD website. They have "budget" reasons for doing this but we all know it is because of what USO did. It is not a coincidence that USO won and they want to do this. Read below:
Public meetings set for Game and Fish Department legislation proposal

Call for Comments
November 10, 2004

Department proposes increase to statutory ceiling for license and permit fees

PHOENIX ? The Arizona Game and Fish Department will conduct a series of public meetings on a proposal for an increase to the statutory ceiling for license and tag fees.


?It's important to remember that this proposal only sets the ceiling for fees. Any increase in fees for our customers would have to go through the rulemaking process, including another public comment period,? says Director Duane Shroufe. ?Sales of hunting and fishing licenses fell 16 percent from 1988 through 2003. Without an increase in statutory fee ceilings, the department will be forced to make service and program reductions.?


?It's also important to remember that the last statutory fee increase in 1998 only provided for the maintenance of existing department programs. The current proposal, in addition to meeting budget shortfalls, would allow us to increase wildlife surveys, enhance law enforcement presence in the field, and improve our fish hatchery and fish stocking programs, in addition to improving other important services to our customers,? says Shroufe.


The meetings will give the public the opportunity to discuss and provide comment on the proposal. They will be held on the following dates:

Nov. 15, 6 p.m., Arizona Game and Fish Department's Flagstaff regional office, 3500 S. Lake Mary Road, Flagstaff.

Nov. 16, 6 p.m., Arizona Game and Fish Department's Pinetop regional office, 2878 E. White Mountain Blvd., Pinetop.

Nov. 18, 6 p.m., Arizona Game and Fish Department's Kingman regional office, 5325 N. Stockton Hill Road, Kingman.

Nov. 23, 6 p.m., Arizona Game and Fish Department's Mesa regional office, 7200 E. University Drive, Mesa.

Nov. 29, 7 p.m., Graham County Health Annex, Community Meeting Room, 820 W. Main St., Safford.

Dec. 1, 6 p.m., Arizona Game and Fish Department's Tucson regional office, 555 N. Greasewood Road, Tucson.

Dec. 2, 6:30 p.m., La Quinta Inn, 2510 W. Greenway Road, Phoenix.

Dec. 4, 1 p.m., Arizona Game and Fish Department's Yuma regional office, 9140 E. 28th St., Yuma.
- View the proposed fee ceiling table
- Examples of what fees would be used for [PDF, 37kb
 
This man needs to be gone from AZGFD. He was on vacation for two weeks when the USO issue hit the papers and to the best of public record, he was aware of what would come out. In addition to this, his posistion on predator control does not even mirror reality, he wants to continue to study books, charts, thesis papers and not actually see whats going on in his back yard like the 3-bar study area. He by either negligence or in-action has allowed this state to fall prey to USO and their actions that diregard the well being of wildlife in pursuit of the mighty dollar. I would bet a business 101 course in Managerial finance and operational efficiencies would better serve this department (The course would be mandatory for only the upper Management, the field forces passed the test a long time ago) In addition to Business 101, a course on LISTENING or better yet LISTENING FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED would be valuable. I suggest since they have no money, that we sportspeople throw a garage sale and collect the money. We could sell all our outdoor recreational items like guns/bows which will be useless to us without AZGFD's UPPER MANAGEMENT passing the above mentioned courses. Hopefully AZGFD's people can read and I didnt type to fast for them to understand this............. Thanks, Allen Taylor......
 
"The board also approved a premium limited entry elk opportunity. Premium limited entry elk permits will cost more (for example, a resident limited entry permit will cost $280 compared to $508 for a resident premium limited entry permit), but those who draw them will be allowed to hunt all three seasons on the unit they draw a permit for. Five percent of the limited entry bull elk rifle permits available for 2005 will be premium limited entry permits."

------------------------------------------------------

At least we don't have it as bad as Utah!
$200 for a RESIDENT late season elk tag and $500 for a RESIDENT 3 season Elk tag? You've got to be freaking nuts!
 
i know one thing for sure. my wife is gonna hafta get a second job to keep me in permits. that premium limited elk permit deal is real intruiging. i might be able to hustle up a raghorn at least with one o' them tags. i just hope all this crap together can stop uso from ruining it for all of us. i know the next couple weeks are gonna be interesting, with the late bull hunts starting and uso draggin' all their poor clients and bum guides into Az. hope they stay the hell outta my way.
 
I have never hunted elk before, but hope to someday, perhaps in 2005 or later. I have hunted for whitetails and pronghorn.

It occurs to me that the problem here is that business is getting mixed up in something which is an aesthetic or spiritual activity. Generally, we expect and understand that a business is going to try to maximize its revenues and profits and to try to tilt the playing field to their advantage. Without being aware of the details involved, I'm guessing this is what describes USO's behavior.

Maybe the problem is a view of hunting which turns it into a business? For example, I have thought for some time that it doesn't hurt to have a lot of money if you are wanting to take a very large trophy animal of any species. This can be debated, of course, but I'll stick my neck out and hold to this point until proven wrong. Maybe the first mistake is in making the big antlers or horns the principle objective of one's hunting? If USO wasn't profiting big time, they wouldn't be getting involved in this in the first place. If hunters weren't obsessed with trophy sized antlers, they wouldn't be willing to pay through the nose for USO's services. What causes hunters to be obsessed with trophy sized antlers? Hunting shows on TV and hunting magazines that live on the advertising dollars of hunting ranches and outfitters. This is just a theory. Maybe I'm all wrong.

I don't know what the solution is, but I think I've put my finger on at least part of the problem. Don't expect a business, USO, to act for the good of the sport of hunting . . . they are a friggin' business guys!!!
 

Click-a-Pic ... Details & Bigger Photos
Back
Top Bottom