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I took this yesterday. Sorry its a little blurry. Its from a little over 400 yards away. My camera was pushing it... He's not the biggest one I saw, but the only big one I got on film. He had 7 other satellite bulls, and about 40 -50 cows with him. He was still bugling strong, and going nuts. I was surprised for this late in November. Do you think he's a booner or not????
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So where did you end up yesterday?? Could I guess?

I do not think that is a booner, but pictures can be decieving. A booner is one special elk. He's a dandy, but not that big. Weak 1st and 2nds and not too long on the mains.....3rds are nice, 4ths are average 5ths are dang nice.

Honestly, I put him at......344 with a 45 inch inside spread!

Get his sheds in a few months and let us know!
 
I agree, hes nice but not a book bull by any means. I'd give him between 330-340. Pretty weak up front and only average main beam length. Its hard to tell in these pics but, what he lacks in overall length he may make up in mass, but hard to tell.

Mike
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Nice Bull! I especially like the dark horns and Ivory tips. I agree though he won't make book. He may get close he appears to have good mass. I agree that he lacks the overall length to push him into the HAWG category.

Great pics boneaddict keep em coming. It makes getting through teh day easier.
 
Nice bull. Big bodied potlicker. I agree, he would probably fall short of the books, but not short of my arrow. Appears to have good mass, just lacking the length.
 
I decided to head up into the Colville area for a change of pace. I was hoping to catch some whitetails in action. I saw 9 bulls. This one, one a tad bigger, mostly in spread and mainbeam lench, but only a 6x6, and 7 satellites. I only saw 7 bucks, one small whitie who was rutting, and 6 mulies. Only one of which was rutting. Its like they are on their break already in between rutting cycles. STRANGE. I'll post the deer pics later.
 
These elk were around the Colville area? On the reservation? It's great if the elk are expanding their range here in Washington.
 
You guys are killing me....320??!?!?!? You've got to be kidding....With fifths that long and thirds that long, he would go over 350 easy and if there is any length up front and if his mains are over 50" (both of which are impossible to tell from the pic), he could give 375 a run......What exactly about this bull makes you think anything less than 350?!?!? Tell me how many bulls you've seen with whale tails that big.......
 
I'd have to second the 320-325, not much length up front. Even still, I would enjoy packing this one out of the hills.
 
I've actually seen several nice bulls w/ whale tails like that. Saw one this year in fact while hunting for elk. I honestly dont think this bull is any longer than the one I shot this year and mine only had 43" main beams. This guy though very impressive and would look good hanging on the wall lacks the overall length to be a true HAWG. I judge a bulls length by weather or not he can scratch his A$$ with his tails. I don't think this guy gets that close.
 
Gil,

He does have impressive 3rds and 5ths, and after looking more closely at the picture, I was probably a few points too low. I'd go as high as 335. He is a sweet bull, and I wouldn't pass him in a million years, but there is no way I can come up with anywhere near 350 inches based on these pictures. That's just my guess, and I could be wrong, but he is quite compacted, either that or he is a 1200 pound elk...His beams aren't all that long, even though he does have nice little whale-tails, I'd say they are 47-48", and that's being generous. His fronts are weak, probably 14-15", about the same length as his 3rds. 4ths are good, 5ths are very nice, and he has 26-28" in mass. He doesn't appear to be overly wide, I'll guess around 38" inside. Added all up, I think that would put him around 330-335.

I've attached pictures of 3 different elk we videoed this fall that I would guess would be very similar in size, and we guessed them to be 320-330 class. Again, I could be wrong, but there is no way this bull is anywhere near 375".

Corey

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If those G5's are 19" that bull weighs 1500 pounds...and that's being less than generous...18" on the G3's??? He's a nice bull, and I'll leave it at that.

Corey
 
thats a great bull...I wouldnt give him much more then the 330 to 340 range...he does have awesome 5ths...however..weak swords, and fronts are going to kill him..his fronts are not even close to big enough to be a "booner".. I also dont believe his beams are in the "50's". His mass measurements will be really good. I bet those sheds will weigh around 11 pounds a piece. Just my oppinion, still a great bull and I hope you find the sheds to hear exactly what he will score.
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A great looking bull with great set of antlers and from Washington to boot. I'd take him every day for the next 10 seasons...
 
335 and I'm being as generous as I can get... still a descent looking bull though.

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Wow Gil, whats with all the deleted posts?

My guess measurements are nearly identical to buglelks ( I think thats who posted several guess lengths up there). I thought 47 on the mains, 28-30 in mass, super short fronts, maybe 11-14, 3rds nice, but not 18, maybe 14-15 and the sword is only average, 17, 18 inches. All in all, I was being generous saying 344, he could go as low as 330 gross.

Like mentioned above, I'll shoot him every year for the next decade and be the happiest elk hunter in the US.

He does have a big body....but not that big!
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-18-04 AT 01:22PM (MST)[p]Didn't want to continue the pissing contest.....Anyway, I think this bull is bigger than my archery bull this year and he grossed over 380" w/ 48" mains and 42" inside spread.......

BTW-Schuh, Lapinsky and Van Woll state in their book "All About Elk" that if you have a bull that can reach it's rump with it's horns, it's "either got an amazingly short neck or 80" main beams."
 
FWIW-Other body lengths they mention to help field judge are-base of antler to tip of nose=15-16", chest width (head on)=24", Height at the shoulders=60",chest depth (broadside)=36-40", and base of neck to the tail = 60"......
 
Ok lets settle this, I just posted an elk that I killed in archery season. I want to know what he scores. This will tell us who the better scorer is.
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Wyobowhunt,

Very nice bull! My guess would be right around 315". Again, pictures are tough to judge by, but he's definitely over 300" and probably close to 315".

Corey
 
Gil, when they put there head back they dont have to have 80 inch mains. I'm looking at a pic in front of me where the bulls "whale tails" are dropping right down over his hips and I"ll bet his mains aren't over 50 inches. Maybe 52.

I am surprised at your bulls main lenght, thought they were longer!
 
Yeah, I know the "bugle" pose they can reach way back but I thought that the other measurements were pretty accurate....Good reference stuff......

Nah-His mains weren't real long. My bull's rounded off measurements were:

Main beam= 48 49
G1=19 20
G2=19 17
G3=19 20
G4=22 23
G5=12 11
Inside=42"
2 kickers=6" 3"

Mass equaled about 31" per side(9,8,7,7).......
 
Those are sweet measurements Gil! I'll bet he picks up maybe over 20 inches just in the eyeguards (1st two points) alone. Mains a couple inches, 3rds 10+ inches, 4ths a few inches and probably pretty close on the 5ths, but maybe a few inches total. I will stick with about 340 max.

We could all argue till we are blue eh? Opinions, opinions!
 
As far as B&C goes, no, he's definately no "booner", but he's a dang nice bull with potential to be a booner someday. His beam is WAY too short, along with his front end. I'd say this bull is close to 320. he just has big back ends, and that gives a big first look. Give him three more years, and then we'll look at him again.
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I guess I could settle this whole thing, I have a tag in my pocket that says its good today and the next week or two if I want to drive all the way back up there to put an aroow through that tough old chewy bastard. I actually figured he was a 345-350 bull, but thats just me. I'm not the best elk judge, but I have a couple of sheds from that region, maybe even that bull that are pretty tasty, and thats what they officially measure out at. He would be pretty hard to take, but he is still rutting strong, and its the middle of November. He has about 40-50 cows with him plus those 7 other bulls. He would be hard to get into bow range on, but he feeds inthe same area every day, and beds in the same spot, so I probably could ambush him. Who wants to help me pack that hawg out. You could keep most of that stinky meat, my freezer is full. ; )

No, thats not where my wife got her bull, that was here in Yakima, about 5 hours away.
 
320 come on guys look at that elk. Look at his length on the top end. Id say hes a 340 345 bull
 
I think he's worth the trip and sweat. I'd take up archery again if I knew where that bull hangs out. I didn't know there were elk in that part of the state. I thought the orchard owners had them wiped out.
I've always thought Okanagon county should have the elk like Yakima.
 
There are always some elk in that neck of the woods. They have been trying to establish up there for years, but the game department tries its best to keep them out, because I guess they are afraid of what they will do to the muledeer herds. About 15 years ago, they slaughtered a whole herd, and the public found out about it. My dad happened to stumble upon it, as did several other coyote hunters. We all thought a huge poaching thing had occured. It turned nasty, as it should have. Now they open it up for any elk, any bull, etc. type hunts. There are some good numbers over in the Selkirks, but they are a real SOB to hunt. Some come down out of BC and have infiltrated the North, and those that the Indians planted have spread out as well. Some even swam the columbia and are raising hell out in the wheat fields near Davenport. The key is to know where they are at. This happens to be one of the largest groups that I have seen. They have opened the whole north half (what they call the whiteman land above the reservation) to tribal hunting. Thankfully the natives don't get very far from the road, so the elk seem to be handling the extra pressure. As many that are legally harvested now, were probably poached anyhow. Many of the whitetail hunters around Kettle and metaline etc. can probably attest to how many elk are out there.
 
I agree with the 340-350B&C

those thirds are real good, and from there on back is really good too. I dont know how you can say that bull is only 310-320 because he will diffinatly go over 330.

good mass, good point length where it is important, good beams,

I believe that those fronts are better than we think because the more massive a bull is the shorter his points length looks in a picture.
 
In all honesty Doug, I wouldnt waste my time on that bull as he probably wont make P&Y. If you tell me where he is maybe I can just go get some meat for the deep freeze.
 
I guess in all honesty, you don't need to worry about the indians shooting him, but them shooting you. If you saw my other post.
 

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