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montana said today they will not change theur 10% rule for nonresidents until a suit is filed. nevada said they will change theirs, they have been hit with one.can hardly wait to have a decent chance to draw good tags.have several points in alot of places. why should we fund all these states f and game? have heard there will be suits filed in other states just prior to their draws.anyone know if the bigshot is still going to sue idaho? na
 
Your odds are already great for Montana...whats your point? Idaho you can buy a license over the counter. Quit whining.
 
If I were a suspicious person I might think that nailer was a PETA plant making a post just to get good hunters to start fighting amongst themselves. This kind of post in the recent past has been the subject of enough bitterness. Just a thought.
 
nope, ive been a quiet computer illiterit watching and learning at this site for years.i used to like the posts from mainiac, untill he got tired of posts like the last. if you could see my house of horns you would think twice of lumping me with peta. so relax. nailer
 
Nailer if you are not then you are not. Sorry if I may have offended you. It is just that your post, especially in light of some of the recent hostile discussions on similar posts, and the fact that you have not made any posts before, seemed a bit suspicious. Obviously you have freedom of speech and have every right to state your views(subject to the host's rules), I just have concerns with discussions that lead to hostile exchanges amongst fellow hunters because I believe the end result, hunters fighting with other hunters, plays into the hands of the PETA type groups.
 
We've had several lawsuits filed over the years to get the non-resident license quota changed here in Wyoming. In the last one, the Wyoming Outfitters Ass's tried and the Wyoming Supreme Court said get that chit outta here. We're not in the same Federal Court of Appeals as the one that slapped Arizona upside the head. Hopefully the quota/license legislation being sponsored by that Nevada congressman passes soon and none of us will have to worry about whiney hunters and liberal queer judges trying to mess with States rights...
 
I as well as others on MM are watching what is going on in Montana. As far as the upcoming year, nothing has changed drastically for NR's. mtmuley
 
Its a tough call guys. I was born and raised in Mt. I had some friends apply for NR elk and deer tags last year for the first time and they were successful. Both in drawing and harvesting. Whats so hard about that? The sheep, goat, moose and limited elk and deer areas are hard for anyone to draw, both you and I. I have got 0 of those tags in 20 years (and I faithfully apply for them all), so I dont think you have gotten any less than I.
And the gentleman is right about sticking together. We have enough other enemies against ALL of us. Happy hunting (and drawing)
 
Nailer, with a "house of horns" you are probably more well off than the average Joe. I hope so, because if your hopes become reality, you can expect nonresident fees to continue to escalate at a drastic level. Seen the "caps" that Utah is going to institute including a $3200 tag for elk??? Courts have upheld the right for states to charge more for nonresidents, and the letter from USO questioning that is mostly blowing smoke so far.

For the average hunter, doing away with quotas for nonresidents means much higher prices any way you slice it. As they say, be careful what you wish for, you may get it!

No, I don't consider it fair for nonresidents to pay 70% of license revenue, but I don't think it is unfar for residents to get the LION's share of tags in their state. Legally, the state does own the animals, not the feds.

And why are you using Montana as an example? It IS an easy state to draw so what is your point to even bring it up? You certainly don't come off as very credible when you state that nonresidents pay 80% of Montanas fish and game budget when a little research showed it to be not even close to that level.

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
 
I mirror what TX said and TripleBB. If this poster is as successful at hunting as he says, then he will apply his natural hunting common sense to this western states issue. If we allow money to enter in on our passion of hunting then we all will suffer. What I mean by this is that USO's success in the 9th circuit opened the door for huge economic gains by USO type outfitters that cater to upper income class clients. Secondly if the odds for non-residents continue to get better then the residents will not as passionately support the wildlife habitat/enhancement issues if they can never draw a tag in their state. The overall decline of Mule Deer habitat and conservation levels will slowly continue. All of the issues with USO, Arizona, Nevada, Montana, Wyoming etc...will continue to happen but we will be less and less shocked if we do not stay CONCERTED/WORK TOGETHER as fellow hunters for all of our states, not just our own. Nobody that really really cares for wildlife wants the management of wildlife to be in the Federal Hands of our government...... Thanks, Allen Taylor......
 
"we will be less and less shocked if we do not stay CONCERTED/WORK TOGETHER as fellow hunters for all of our states, not just our own. Nobody that really really cares for wildlife wants the management of wildlife to be in the Federal Hands of our government"

Well said Bura!

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
 
Nailer,

Regardless of where this debate goes (which is probably nowhere good), please show us pics of your house of horns!
 

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