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What do you all think?? Do they hunt public land in colorado every year or private land.
 
I always figured maybe the Primos company owned a couple Guiding areas, or ranches, and only used them for the videos?
Which is fine.
I still like the videos. They showed me a lot of tricks on hunting elk.
 
Primos hunts private land or very limited draws (Gila units). The Colorado ranch where they have so much luck is in the San de Christos. They do say they hunt places anyone could hunt. That is true, but some of those places would cost a bit of money. That being said, all of their hunting is fair chase, ethical, and no fences. The amount of quality film they get each year is amazing. I live in Jackson, Mississippi, and Primos is from here. I have had the chance to meet and become aquaintences with some past or present team members. They are hunters' hunters and would be great guys to share a camp with.
This brings to mind a story. About fifteen years ago, I killed my first turkey. I wanted to keep the fan tail, but didn't know what to do with it. I called Primos and got Will Primos on the phone. He invited me to come by the office and he would help me. At the time their home office was only a few blocks from my house, so I ran over their. Will helped me clean up the fan and it is still hanging on my wall today. That impressed me that he would take time from his schedule to help out a young hunter.
 
They still have to put in the time to hunt. They dont have them pinned up or chose what animal they want. They have good callers and have a good spot to hunt. Still buy there videos as they are great videos.

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I still like them the best they are not in it just for the kill they love being out in the wide open spaces, and if they have an Elk to skin pilgrim then thats a bonus, I have watched San Carlos Elk hunts, Carlton and Mossback and Primos is the best in my book but every one has their favorites. And you do get info. for your hunt in Primos more than the others, and for a rookie like me every bit helps.
 
I always wondered if it was public or private land that the Primos crew hunted. Either way the hunts are definitely fair chase and the quality of their videos is outstanding. Seem like a good bunch of guys.
 
Does anyone know which side of the mountains they are hunting on. I have some property outside of Mineral Springs and was wondering if they were close. I've never been to it cause Its from my grandmother and I'm here in Or.
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-16-05 AT 10:25PM (MST)[p]Jamie, I tell you what. Let me go hunt it for you and I'll tell you the what you need to know. ;)

I think they hunt exclusively private. There are only a couple people that I know that does hunt OTC or general tags that the average joe truley can hunt it.

Glen Berry
Dewight Schue
Larry Jones
I can't remember the other guy's name something like Zelinski or something like that.
 
BT, do you happen to mean Mike Lapinski? If so you are correct he is a public land hunter. Mostly MT & ID,although he has hunted other states as well.

foxtrot4elk
 
i GOT THE TRUTH BIG BULLS 8 the other day and it is great, I agree that they put out some of the best videos, especially elk hunting. I have all of their elk videos and they usually say where they are hunting. Yes in CO they are hunting a large private ranch. Jeff
 
I think its in the Calebra range near the New Mexico border. For the average hunter that hunt costs around 8,000. Its possible some is done on public but the majority is happening on private ground.
 
I know that Jim Horn for the Primos Team hunts in Oregon and I believe it's public land. He kills a bull every year up there. He's a great elk caller that's for sure.

IB
 
Gila and Valles Caldera are both available to avg. joe hunter via the public draw.
-Raptor
 
I',m sure most have heard of the Hill ranch in Colorado....Hint... they're not too far from there......different ranch, great bulls!
 
Ya Jim Horn is one of the best elk callers out there and a great guy. Check out his early and late season calling CD's at www.elkhornhuntgear.com. The early season CD is especially informative, because it teaches how to call bulls in during the first and second week when they arn't talking too much.
 
Sneakum is exactly correct. I actually wrote Primos an email a few months ago regarding this exact question. I had just purchased and watched Bulls 7 or 8 (can't remember) and wanted to know where they hunted in CO for the majority of that video. He didn't give the name of the ranch, but said it definitely was private property. He did say that one or two of the hunts were on public. After doing some research, I found out it is on the West side of the Culebra range. Mighty big $$$ to hunt there! But wow, what a thrilling hunt from the looks of it.

ElkScout
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Talked with Jim Horn Today he said Primos huns Private in Truth 8 in Colorado on the south side of the mountain Ranges he mentions in the Video...but he said the North side of that same mountain is public.
 
And lets not forget about Chuck Adams.......................................(joking)
 
What about their Montana hunts? Public or Private? The last video I watched of theirs was in the Belt Mountains. This big 7 point came out and they stuck it with an arrow. Not your typical public land hunt in Montana. I've bow hunted in this state for 17 years and it just didn't seem like a public land hunt. Maybe there are certain regulations in the Belt mountains I'm not aware of.
 
I am with Russ but i would say its public but far enough in they dont have to worry much about public pressure.




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The opening hunt with will primos shows the great sand dunes in the background, they are very close to them (within a mile or 2) and in some lower elevation stuff. A couple other elk hunts are in the valley floor in the truth 8. interesting to see those elk at 6500 feet or so rather than 11000 like some of the other videos. Jeff
 
Might be private but these guys are such good callers and have so much experience I'm sure they'd kill elk just about anywhere they hunted.
 
The ranch they hunted elk on in Montana and in Truth 7 and 8 is the CA ranch north of Bozeman Its between the Big Belts and Bridgers. Not to take away from them, but it isnt very hard to find big bulls on this place as there are literally hundreds of them. Before that they hunted Ted Turners Bar Nun ranch and there again it isnt to hard to find a big bull. These two ranches are right next to each other and are about 12,000 a pop to hunt. Ive guided on the CA before. Its a beautiful ranch as far as elk habitat goes.
Jamie
 
Thanks for the update. I was beginning to think I've been bowhunting public land incorrectly all these years, but it's good to let everybody else know that private land is a lot easier to hunt. Better bulls, more bulls and no competition. I have noticed in their videos that they never seem to run into other hunters like I do no matter how far in the backcountry I am. The elk are just as smart 10 miles in compared to 1 mile in if they are on public land and the bulls aren't managed on public land like they are on private. There should be an asterisk in Pope and Young and Boone and Crockett that says such and such animal was taken on private land, or have record books specifically for public land only. People like Chuck that kill multiple 400 bulls in Montana and don't tell you where they took the animal is really frustrating for me, yet these bulls will go into the books without the asterisk beside it. I'd be more than glad to take Chuck hunting with me or visa versa. Primos should also let consumers know that their calls work way better on land managed for bulls, for example on private land.
 
I agree with you Zigga. Not that I have anything against those that can afford to pay for such incredibly exciting hunts as we witness on video. I'd do it in a minute... every year... if I could afford it. But I haven't been able to afford it once yet. :-(

But it would be nice if the "private vs public" information was communicated much more than it is. I mean... it isn't going to give away any secret spots. And for those of us with smaller wallets, it would help put things into perspective about where we hunt and the quality of bulls we work just as hard or harder for every year.

And you're right about Chuck type hunters... if a bull was taken on public land that scored 380, I'm apt to be a LOT more impressed with it than a 420 bull taken on a private ranch (aka. elk preserve) even if it was a "no fences" hunt. It ain't just about the antlers.

Just my opinion

Steve
 
It's been a LONG time since I could kneel next to a tree and have a bull come in and not get wise. I did notice the bulls on truth 8 were starting to wise up when they came in rather than just run in to 10 yerds and stand there.
 
We've all been kinda beating around the bush here, but I think some are still a bit confused. Primos hunts the Fo____-Trin___ ranch. I'd bet $100 on it. At least that is where most of the first several hunts on the Truth 7 were filmed. They don't need to look for a different place for their next video... that place is happy to sell the opportunity year after year. In fact, Will Primos mentions the Culebra range on his website one time (at least I saw it there once) which is not near the Sand Dunes... but much further south. From the videos, you can determine that he is hunting on the west side of the mountains... the west side of the Culebra range is ALL private and the F/T ranch owns a huge portion of the range from the bottom to the peaks along with a couple other big ranches that border them to the south. The GMU is 83 and the ranch is SE of Ft. Garland, CO.

Steve
 
The record books are meant to honor the animal, not the person. It really doesn't matter where it was taken as long as it is fair chase. Some of the biggest bulls in the world are taken on public land in Arizona and New Mexico.
I do agree that the video industry makes all types of hunting look real easy. It often makes hunters not respect animals they have not taken or areas that they have not hunted. Bottom line in the video industry is to get kills on film. That aspect of it makes the private land hunts an investment.
 
In the Truth 3, most of there hunts are in Montana. It looks like such awesome country to me. Is this land public or private?
 
Truth 3 is Private land on Ted Turners BAR-NUN ranch, for $12000 you can hunt there too..
Sheepeater
 
Thanks for the info, but thats just insane. If you think about it, we're (the people that buy primos products) are paying for ole Will and his buddies to go hunt there.
 
Well... yes we are. You like the videos though don't you? It takes big money these days to get on a ranch that has the quantity and calliber of bulls we want to see on video.
 
Oh I didn't mean I didn't like the videos or anything, I've got all the elk ones. I just thought it was kinda ironically funny that's all.
 
I know, I wasn't trying to be a smart alec. they must be selling a ton of videos. they spend at least 100k on elk tags / year, production and travel costs on top of that, and the vids are only 10-15 dollars retail.
 
I watched the truth 7 last night and they mention that they are on "public land" several times. Is this just to make us assume that the whole thing is on public land? I don't really care, I think that if any of us had a financial windfall we would spend at least some of the money on better hunting opportunities. I just enjoy watching the bulls, the archery aspect is pretty cool too.
 
They also sell duck, goose, elk,deer ,turkey,and preditor calls...also they sell bow slings, archery vests and hats... Its a big business and doing vey well... My hat goes off to Will Primos and I am sure he has worked very hard for what he has.... The last publication I got showed he had over 120 employees!
 
I haven't saw a primos video I didn't like. Will seems like a good guy who is genuinely passionate about what he does. That being said, most of the videos you see always make it appear that finding trophy animals is an easy task. Doyle Moss' and Ryan Hatches videos are no different.The simple fact is, most of the animals and hunts are either filmed on private land or on public land units that are very difficult to draw. I'm not bagging on these guys; they put together a quality film that is marketable. However, any guy that is a decent hunter could have the same success if he had the monetary resources and connections as the people listed above.

Mike
 
I agree with what your saying... lots of those video's arn't realistic for the average hunter on public ground...and a general tag.
 
Does anyone know if they are hiring? I am intrested if your are reading this primos.

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