Poaching Story

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-14-05 AT 07:00PM (MST)[p]Here's something from the Idaho F&G website that I thought some of you might find interesting. In my opinion these guys got off to easy, but at least they were caught. I hope that Montana throws the book at them for lying threw their teeth to an officer.

Arrest Digest - Game Wardens Without Borders
By Jon Heggen, Enforcement Bureau Chief


Normally, state game wardens? authority rests inside the borders of the state that employs them. However, on December 5, 2004, an Idaho senior conservation officer found himself traveling north of Lost Trail Pass into Montana in search of three elk poachers.

Earlier in the day, two Idaho sportsmen were enjoying a day in the hills chasing mountain lions with their video camera. Above Salmon, near the Idaho/Montana border, they were stunned to witness a party of three kill an elk. Knowing the Idaho elk season had closed in that area, the witnesses turned their video camera toward the ongoing violation. After the poachers left, the witnesses contacted Idaho Fish and Game Officer Tony Latham of Salmon.

The witnesses relayed their story, providing Latham with a vehicle description and direction of travel, which was toward Wisdom, MT. Idaho Conservation Officer Latham made contact with Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks Warden J.D. Douglas at a check station in Darby, MT and the two began a partnership that is common with game wardens throughout the country.

Shortly afterward, the suspect vehicle entered the check station and the two game wardens began their investigation. By the time the elk had arrived at the Montana check station, Mrs. Allison Ralls had her Montana tag on the elk. She claimed this was her first elk and she had to shoot it twice with her .270. Her husband, accompanied by friend Jason Raymond, went with her on their Montana elk hunt. She was stunned to find that her Montana elk was actually shot in Idaho. Driving their pickup with the elk, Tom Ralls, Allison?s husband, confirmed that his wife shot her first elk in what he believed was Montana.

The investigation enlisted the help of Idaho Regional Conservation Officer Paul Sommerfeld and MTFWP Warden Doug Johnson of Stevensville, MT. Sommerfeld returned to the kill site and gathered valuable evidence. Johnson waited for the Ralls near their home in Stevensville. The investigation, including witness and suspect interviews in Wisdom revealed a different story.

Allison Ralls was in Wisdom when the elk was killed above Salmon. Jason Raymond of Wisdom shot the elk but did not tag it because he had tagged a Montana elk earlier in the year. Tom Ralls, Allison?s husband, assisted Raymond in the hunt and transported the elk from Idaho into Montana. A third male member of the party had a minor role in the event.

Tom Ralls and Jason Raymond were cited into Magistrate court in Salmon. Madison County Magistrate Judge Rammel heard the case and accepted guilty pleas from both Montana hunters. Tom Ralls pleaded guilty to possessing/transporting an elk taken unlawfully. Jason Raymond pleaded guilty for taking elk during a closed season. Both men received the same sentence from Judge Rammel. They served 10 of 90 days in jail. They received two years probation and their hunting privileges were revoked for two years.

Because Idaho and Montana are members of the Wildlife Violator Compact, their revocations stand in Idaho and their home state as well as the other 19 member states. Ralls was fined $750 and Raymond $1000, plus court costs. They split the $750 civil penalty, and the $87.50 elk meat processing fee. Each must return to Salmon next spring to participate in 16 hours of court labor detail, usually associated with clean-up or help on hunting/fishing access sites or the local fish hatchery. Montana charges are still pending. The third member of the party was not cited.

The case was never challenged and the court accepted guilty pleas without a trial. The witness observations and statements are unimpeachable. Their credibility and integrity was without question, for the witness behind the video camera was Magistrate Judge Jerry Meyers of Lemhi County.
 
Very light.....Should have been a Lacey Act Violation...illegally transporting game across state lines...
 
Absolutely Lacey Act...should have been taken federally. Shame that the judges still view wildlife crimes with less penalty than anything else. A DUI gets more time and fine than that!
 
If it truly was a violation of a federal law, I do not think there is anything about the fact that they were convicted in state court for state law violations that would prevent prosecution under federal law. Not sure, but I think that is what happen in the Rodney King situation with the law enforcement officers. I think they cleared state law issues but were subsequently tried and found guilty of civil rights law under Federal laws. So maybe if there is a aggressive federal attorney general up there these people may not be in the clear yet.
 
Glad they got 'em.

I do chuckle when I read..."Their credibility and integrity was without question, for the witness behind the video camera was Magistrate Judge Jerry Meyers of Lemhi County"

Judges are not above corruption and poaching. In fact they are probably more corrupt than the average guy.

Anyway, glad they got 'em.
 
Your right cutthroat. The law enforcers are many times the worst people at breaking the law. Not all of them of course but it seems like they think that they are above the law. fatrooster.
 
My dad is a judge. Be careful!

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NBJB
 
I know Judge Meyers a little bit and it is too bad that he didn't get to sentence the people. Meyers does a good job in giving deserving justice to the low people that breaks the law with wildlife. He would have stuck it to em! If anything needs to be improved its the Salmon F&G.
 
WE USED TO HAVE A JUDGE THAT WAS THE BIGGEST POACHER AROUND!!!

THEY NEED TO SLAP HIM HARD,BUT HELL HE USED TO BE A JUDGE WE CAN'T DO MUCH TO HIM,I'M CALLING B.S.!!!

HERES THE QUESTION!!!

WAS IT REALLY FAIR FOR THIS JUDGE TO PROSECUTE PEOPLE BREAKING THE LAW WHILE AT THE SAME TIME HE WAS BREAKING THE SAME LAWS HIMSELF???

I DO EXPECT SOME ANSWERS PLEASE???

SMART POACHERS(IF THERE WERE ANY)WILL DO EXACTLY WHAT THESE POACHERS ABOVE DID,IT IS THE EASIEST WAY OUT AND THEY CAN GO RIGHT BACK TO THEIR SAME TACTICS AND SAY:WELL WE ONLY GOT CAUGHT ONCE IN THE LAST 25 YEARS,THAT AIN'T SO BAD!!!

I SAY START THROWING THE BOOK AT THEM & WAKE THESE IDIOTS UP!!!

THE ONLY bobcat CONSIDERING POACHERS AS 'THIEFS',THEY MIGHT NOT LIKE IT,I DON'T CARE!!!
 
I have to agree with NBJBHUNTERMAN. I know several District, County and city court Judges. And even had a short acquittance with a superior Court judge. I don't always agree with their decisions, but I do respect the work that they do. If you're aware of a Justice that makes habit out of breaking laws, there are ways to remedy the problem. I think 99% of Judges are on the up side, even though, Sometimes it's very frustrating to hear some of the rulings they hand down from the bench. I recommend you spend some time in court, not as a defendent but as an observer. It will enlighten you immensely. Again, if you have the goods on a Judge, take it to the proper authorities but be darn careful and be sure you have your ducks in a row. Nobody wants a "dirty judge" setting on the bench. And remember, one bad apple doesn't have to ruin the entire lot. If that were the case, our (hunters} basket of apples would be leaking out of the sides at an alarming rate. Oh... My father was a J.P. also!
 
Seems like there has been soom confusion in the story. The judge wasn't doing anything illegal. The judge was the one that turned the poachers in.
 

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