valle vidal youth hunt help

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i was drawn for the valle vidal youth either sex tag and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction about where to start
any help would be greatly appreciated
 
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Is this a rifle tag? You're in for a great hunt if it's anything like it was in 2000. I shot a 287 with a mz and could've done much better...that was my biggest elk to date and still is. Most folks hunt the high ground...I concentrated on the east side and lower. Lots of bugling, but that was Oct. 1. When is your hunt?
 
yes it is the rifle tag that runs oct 8-12th is there alot of hunting pressure? i was thinking about setting up around water holes, is this a bad idea please help me
 
I don't remember the # of tags for your season, do you know? The water hole approach does work up there, and this should be the tail end of the rut. My guess is that up high there will be lots of water, but maybe not so down low.
 
i'm not sure on the number of tags for the youth hunt but i do know that there is another hunt at the same time that isn't a youth hunt
i was also considering setting up on well traveled game trails, does anybody know if this might work or are there not many trails
anyways thanx for all the help it is greatly appreciated
 
there's trails but you'll have a rifle...start near the trails, but move your butt until you hear bugles, then stalk. If it's not a 300 class bull, move on.
 
so let me tell you my plan and you can tell me how it sounds to you. I will most likely be on a mountain bike since i don't have horses. so i will ride down the trails until i either see something or hear a bugle. from there i will stalk and hopefully get a shot. does the mountain bike thing sound good or should i just go on foot. thanx for the help
 
Hey that is really awesome, What do you want to know? I am really familiar with the Valle Vidal. I am going to spend two weeks up there. There are really exceptional elk up there both cows and bulls the area ranges from BIG meadow to high timber line, aspen areas. You lucked out this year becuase we have had great moisture and the bulls should be really healthy,and another thing is that the antler growth will really be supperb! Congrats! Let me know what els you want to know.
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TrophyTaker when are you going up there? i would appreciate it if you would tell me what you see when you go up there? Can you maybe give me a starting point such as the north end, south end, or sometype of general area as too where i will get to at least see a nice bull. last year i had the first hunt in unit 12 and we only saw one elk the whole entire hunt, itwas a calf that couldn't cross the fence, unfortunetly i had a bull tag so i couldn't shoot it. any ways any help would be greatly appreciated thanx
 
Hello

Back in 2003, my working partner had a November cow elk permit for Valle Vidal. I also had a cow elk permit too with the same hunt dates, but for unit 52 in Tres Piedras. After are hunts were over, my friend Matthew harvested 1 cow, plus he also had friends who had there own cow permits for Valle Vidal. They camped 9 miles apart from each other. Matthew told me that there was really nothing to brag about considering that Valle Vidal is supposed to be a very special place to hunt for elk, as in you draw a tag once, and once only. Matthew told me he ran into the elk on a mountain about 300 yards away from where he had walked.
His friend, quickly started shooting at the elk because he was excited, instead, he scared off the herd, & nobody was sucessfull in bagging an elk that day. Then the next day, Matt went for a walk again from his campsite & ran into the herd again at about 300 yards away. He was using a 270 Winchester with 165 grain nosler partition bullets. Matt knew he was dialed in at 150 yards, because he was able to shoot & break a bottle at that distance. But he had to take a 300 + yard shot. So he puts the crosshairs on the shoulder of the cow to make sure he hits the animal. Well, after 3 shots from the 270 Winchester with 165 grain nosler partition bullets, the Elk was finally down & dead. When all was over & done with, me & Matt met with each other at work after are hunting dates had expired. I shared my stories & he shared his. My story goes like this: On the last day of are Elk hunt, my brother & I were both using 300 Winchester magnums. My grandpa, now 70+ years old, was driving his truck down forest road #576 between 7 & 8 in the morning. I saw something like a lite colored stump at about 500 yards. I told my grandpa to stop the truck. I pulled out my gun to view what I saw with the naked eye through my scope, what I saw, was a nice big gigantic cow elk. It actually looked like it had a perm. Once I identified that it was indeed a cow elk, my brother got out of the truck to see what I was looking at with his rifle. Once he seen what I seen, he told me it looked like the elk had just had a perm. By the time my brother told me that, the elk knew we were on to them & they took off running. We never got a shot, not to mention that we though we had it in the bag, thinking we were gonna bring the 500 yard shot down to a 100 yard shot. When we got within the 100 yard range from where we saw the elk, there was no longer any elk, they were gone!!! Last time I was in Valley Vidal was about 15 years ago. What I can remember is, that there were many turkeys & deer. I can't remember if there were Elk, although another friend of mine said to me last winter that he could of shot Elk all day, as in, he had to stop his vehicle to let the elk pass. I do believe this occured after the Elk hunts were over in Valle Vidal, while there was still a deer hunt going on. Sergio also told me, that he could of shot a mule deer buck all day too, because it looked at his vehicle like it was a strange curious animal. Too make a long stort short, I recommend taking an atv or more to get to know the area at least up to 5 days before your hunt. If you can't do that, a topo map with a game plan usually helps! Remember, Elk like water, but they also like there privacy too!
 
josh

thanx for the stories, however on the atv thing i didn't think you could have atvs there,maybe im wrong. and im working on getting a topo map so i can then make a gameplan. i hope that i don't have to take three shots with my 270 just to get the elk down. i hope that the elk will be more active considering it will be at the end of the rut
thanx for the info
 

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