SCI vs. B&C Scoring

deerhuntsalot · Jun 28, 2005

Is an SCI measurement of elk the same exact score of a B&C Gross score?

Also I am thinking of maybe booking an elk hunt at the Golden Spur Ranch in Saskatchewan. Anybody know anything about that outfitter if they are good or not? thanks

BigPig · Jun 28, 2005

LAST EDITED ON Jun-28-05 AT 03:24PM (MST)[p]No they are very different. Essentially, SCI scores all the inches of horn growth that the animal grows. B&C is more of a function of symmetry. It measures one side, then the other, and comes up with a net score after deducting the difference between the two sides.

Sorry, I missed the gross score part. What I said is for Net score which is what B&C actually uses.

deerhuntsalot · Jun 28, 2005

I am thinking of going up to canada to hunt elk. One outfitter says they average 320 - 360 B&C Gross. Another outfitter says they average 350 - 405 SCI. Which meansurements are bigger then?
Thanks

kirkl · Jun 28, 2005

I think SCI and B&C Gross are the same.

arch3614elk · Jun 28, 2005

I think SCI allows trophy animals taken from game ranches& high fenced enclosed areas to be entered in the books, where Boone & Crocket and Pope & Young does not.

RLH · Jun 28, 2005

if i'm not mistaken, sci does not record the spread, on antlered animals, where b&c has an inside spread on all antlered animals.

D13er · Jun 28, 2005

SCI also doesn't pull the tape very tight depending on who you are.

JB

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COSA · Jun 28, 2005

I could be mistaken, but doesn't SCI allow the high fenced or "ranched" elk in. When people mention scores in SCI intstead of gross scores, I tend to think fence. To each his own, but I have my own opinions as well.

Warren · Jun 28, 2005

When SCI score is mentioned, it is a red flag that the hunt is behind a high fence. Anyone that would shoot an elk behind a high fence is a sorry %$&*$#@!

deerhuntsalot · Jun 29, 2005

these are canned hunts. that's why i am contemplating even if i want to go. There only $4K guaranteed kill, and your gonna get a great huge elk, but its still not a real hunt.

Has anyone heard of this one club - Golden Spur Ranch is Saskatchewan???

COSA · Jun 29, 2005

When you look at that elk on your wall what kind of memories of the hunt will it bring back. Will you be proud of that animal? If these questions do not disturb you then go for it. Too each his own.

wingsetter · Jun 29, 2005

SCI and B&C gross are identical.

Texas_Hunter · Jun 30, 2005

We used the shooting range at one of the game ranches last year before our deer hunt in Saskatchewan to check the rifles. There were 8 to 10 bulls we could see at the tree edge about 3/4 mile away in a huge field. It was a 15,000 acre ranch, but seemed small due to the enormous fields and smaller woodlots. From some of the high points, you could probably see half to 2/3's of the ranch. In Texas where we hunt a 15,000 acre ranch is enormous and you couldn't see more than a few hundred yards at most due to the thick vegetation, brush, et cetera even from high vantage points.

The best bull was in the 360's and the owner convinced one of the guys in our deer camp to come back after his deer hunt was over to get that bull. I think he paid $3000 for the bull - it took him all of 2 hours to locate and shoot the bull. It was not for me, but to each their own.

Lien2 · Jun 30, 2005

RLH - Are you sure about SCI not figuring in the spread measurement? That just does not seem right. Anyone know?

Lien2

orion23 · Jul 4, 2005

yes they include spread. SCI and B&C gross are the same. ...score anyway. not sure about the high fence stuff.

bigLouis · Jul 4, 2005

Technically there is no such thing as B&C 'gross'.For instance a typical mule Deer buck is scored only on what we would call eyeguards plus main beam and 3 remaining typical points along with 4 standard circumferences and widest inside spread of main beam.Now balance the frame out by totalling the differences of each twin measure on each side.To the differences from the points now add up the total lengths of all abnormal points not part of a typical frame and deduct that from the totals.Sooo any trash is not counted in the origional total But it is deducted.Sure that is clear as mud!