1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Guess O'Reillys guest had it right a few months back. Who knew?
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Same old story. Obama rushed to judgement and celebrated his great trade with Berdahl's muslim parents in the Rose Garden, Susan Rice went on all the TV shows declaring him an American hero and now he is just a POS deserter. 5 top terrorists were released for this idiot. Obama needs to be impeached based upon the illegal release.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

...he is an American hero...to the left.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

At least Obama informed Congress before making the deal. Shared responsibility. Oh, wait.....

Eel

It's written in the good Book that we'll never be asked to take more than we can. Sounds like a good plan, so bring it on!
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

I'm sure Nemont will be along shortly to apologize for claiming I was full of crap for saying Bergdahl was a deserter and would be charged. He was so wrapped up in Bibi talking to Congress he pissed himself. Bibi was right and we are not getting a thing from the Iranians to prevent a bomb. They just told Kerry they would agree to the deal but would not actually sign it. Some people are plain dumb.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

LAST EDITED ON Mar-25-15 AT 04:15PM (MST)[p]



>I'm sure Nemont will be along
>shortly to apologize for claiming
>I was full of crap
>for saying Bergdahl was a
>deserter and would be charged.
>He was so wrapped up
>in Bibi talking to Congress
>he pissed himself. Bibi was
>right and we are not
>getting a thing from the
>Iranians to prevent a bomb.
>They just told Kerry they
>would agree to the deal
>but would not actually sign
>it. Some people are plain
>dumb.

Glen,

You are simply lying about what I said. I guess some people are not only stupid but dishonest

To Wit:

NeMont (6082 posts) Click to EMail NeMont Click to send private message to NeMont Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
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11. "RE: HEY 440!!!"
LAST EDITED ON Jun-02-14 AT 01:23 PM (MST)

If he is a deserter that will come out and I have no issue with throwing the book at him.

Even if he was a deserter, we still go get him as he remained a U.S. citizen.

I agree with the troops on the ground are probably pissed and rightfully so, still that doesn't mean we leave him behind because we don't like his actions.

Lots of deserters and AWOL members during the Vietnam war have remained in the U.S. and led productive lives.

You and I don't have to like it however the deal is that he remained an American and we have a duty to return him, even if it is to face a court martial.

Until proven he deserted I give it the benefit of the doubt and say he was a POW. Unless you have refutable proof he deserted that you can share?

Nemont


And again:

NeMont (6082 posts) Click to EMail NeMont Click to send private message to NeMont Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jun-02-14, 03:12 PM (MST)
13. "RE: HEY 440!!!"
I wasn't party to the talks, so I don't know why they gave up five for one.

Don't get the idea that I support this guy, all I said was let the fall out happen, if he deserted then let the USMJ apply to him and send him to Leavenworth.


Do you really think this changes anything about how much they hate us? If they could capture other American troops they would already have done so and have tried many times in the past.

Read some of the Medal of Honor winners keeping their buddies from being taken prisoner


and Yet again


NeMont (6082 posts) Click to EMail NeMont Click to send private message to NeMont Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
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16. "RE: HEY 440!!!"
LAST EDITED ON Jun-02-14 AT 04:00 PM (MST)

You are all acting like this wasn't a war. Bad things happen in war, people die, people desert, people go AWOL people get wounded and maimed.

I don't know all the facts but if he deserted then I bet the military prosecutors are working on filing charges and an article 32 hearing is being scheduled.

Nemont

Glen,

Before you want to make more lies up about me there is a useful search tool on here to prove what was said in the past. Maybe try using it before stating an outright untruth.

Nemont
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

If found guilty, Obama can just pardon him in about a year and a half.

Eel

It's written in the good Book that we'll never be asked to take more than we can. Sounds like a good plan, so bring it on!
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

It doesn't change a thing one way or the other. he was an inlisted man held as a POW. WTF right do any of you have to decide if we should bring him home or let him swing without due process ?

It's hard to imagine why anyone would fight for POS' like you clowns knowing you'd leave them behind if the rumors weren't positive.

Sometimes it goes from funny to disgusting around here real fast.
















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RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

We lost 6 guys lookin for this a-hole, then we gave up 5 Taliban in an unprecedented negotiation with terrorists for a farkin deserter! Which is what we've been biitchin about from the beginning and u can't grasp!
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

He left his post you idiot. His choice, his decision, his dumbass fault. 440 you know nothing of honor or allegiance. Oh wait, yes you do your father's uncle best friends neighbors served so that puts you in the know. No wonder your people act the way they do. The dumb gene was definitely passed on to you. I know it's the damn white man's fault, and that jew bibi. Too funny.

Obama is a fool, but not as foolish as you Kool-aid drinkers.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

If they knew what had happened why did they go look for him at all you mouthbreathers? it took since may to get a ruling once he was home. not near as simple as you are obviously.



This is by a real soldier , and it explains why we can't let take a poll to decide who's worthy of rescue. not that I expect you half wit losers to grasp it.


http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/06/04/leave-no-soldier-behind-no-exceptions/













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RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Nemont-you could use a reading and a senility session. On the thread about Bibi I brought up the Bergdahl charges and you basically said I was a fool for believing the sources I had. You were wrong on that and you were wrong about Netenyahu. He had every right to speak to Congress and he was dead on about the idiots we have running our government. By the way he wants to thank you, Dude and Obama for his re-election.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

The alternative is having this guys throat cut on the internet.

An American service man. Been nice if they could have cut a better deal.

I still am thinking they put tracker chips on those desert monkeys before they turned them loose.

There may be a drone visit in their future.


We never have the whole story. Not enough to get excited about it.

Pretty sure they knew all about Bergdal before the brought him in.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

U give this administration too much credit nmp.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

There are over 1 billion muslims. I don't think 5 jokers we couldn't press charges on will make a big difference.


DimWit, if they knew everything there was to know why did they send anyone after him? answer.

What if he was a mental case? had PTSD ? the note was fake? who cares our soldiers are an expenable asset right. that should help moral and sign ups.



Who get to decide which soldiers are worthy of bringing home? FOX ? Limbaugh? Ted Cruz? you? no man left behind means nobody. not even in an election year.













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RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

I can understand Nemont's position on not leaving any soldier behind. I think there was more to this then that. I believe that politics played a major role on Obama giving up 5 terrorists for one Army deserter and not his compassion for a deserter being held by the enemy.

If you go back to the time this took place. You will remember that the Obama Admin. was up their necks in several scandals that was being reported on almost a daily basis. Due to the IRS scandal, and the reporting that the Obama Admin. even spied on several reporters. The liberal press was even taking pot shots at Obama and his Admin.

I believe that someone in the Obama circle came up with a brain fart to divert that bad press and get them printing something positive about the Obama Admin. hoping everyone will leave the scandals behind in the dust.

They felt that they could get this Sgt. back home and turn it into some positive press for the Obama Admin. They did not care that the Army had turned up information that the Sgt. may be a deserter in a war zone as they could downplay that fact and give it some good spin for political reasons.

This is why they played up the Rose Garden meeting with the parents, press invited of course, and why several higher ups in the Obama Admin. kept referring to the Sgt. as a "hero" and the liberal press ran with it.

What Obama and company did not count on, was several of that Sgt's fellow comrades becoming so infuriated they decided to tell the truth to show he was not a hero, but a coward deserter that should be court martialed.

Those comrades did not go to ABC, NBC, CBS news to report their side of the story. Instead they appeared on Fox news and gave their information concerning the whole incident.

Obama got his 15 minutes of fame, but then it turned into another of the many SNAFUs that plagues this administration.


RELH
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

That's right RELH. And that's one reason why lots of people, including many members of Congress, don't want these stoners in the Obama administration working a secret nuke deal with Iran.

If and when Bergdahl is convicted, I hope they send him to Gitmo, since they have 5 empty beds.

Eel

It's written in the good Book that we'll never be asked to take more than we can. Sounds like a good plan, so bring it on!
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

>There are over 1 billion muslims.
>I don't think 5 jokers
>we couldn't press charges on
>will make a big difference.
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>DimWit, if they knew everything
>there was to know why
>did they send anyone after
>him? answer.
>
> What if he was a
>mental case? had PTSD ?
> the note was fake?
> who cares our soldiers
>are an expenable asset right.
> that should help
>moral and sign ups.
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>Who get to decide which soldiers
>are worthy of bringing home?
>FOX ? Limbaugh?
>Ted Cruz? you?
> no man left behind
>means nobody. not even in
>an election year.
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1 billion and one more in Oregon.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

I'm glad the military is in charge of such matters and not a bunch of FOX watching losers.

The right thing was done. the nation has done upheld it's obligation to those who wear the uniform and now it can charge him if it sees fit. this is america, that's how it's done and I'm proud of it. you losers can go pizz up a rope.













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RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

>I'm glad the military is in
>charge of such matters and
>not a bunch of FOX
>watching losers.
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>The right thing was done. the
>nation has done upheld it's
>obligation to those who wear
>the uniform and now it
>can charge him if it
>sees fit. this is
>america, that's how it's
>done and I'm proud of
>it. you losers can
>go pizz up a rope.
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>Stay thirsty my friends
You are a little of both,a wing nut and a ding bat.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

LAST EDITED ON Mar-26-15 AT 09:22AM (MST)[p]

Glen,

You senility and stupidity knows no bounds.

Here is the exact words from me on that thread:

NeMont (5965 posts) Click to EMail NeMont Click to send private message to NeMont Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jan-27-15, 09:43 AM (MST)
83. "RE: Pissing On America"
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/06/04/leave-no-soldier-behind-no-exceptions/

Glen,
I get that you would abandon American Servicemen and Women to the enemy because you don't like the President but thank god the ethos of the military is superior to the population at large of this country.

If Bergdahl is convicted, that is his fate do to his actions and his choices. At least he is on American soil, facing American Justice and doing so because he failed America. I know none of that matters to you but it matters to the people who serve. It matters that they believe our country would move the heavens and stars to try to get them back, regardless of what they did or did not do.

To do less is dishonorable, I guess I know where you fall on that spectrum.

Nemont

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All I did was ask you why you hated the Constitution


NeMont (5965 posts) Click to EMail NeMont Click to send private message to NeMont Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jan-27-15, 11:06 AM (MST)
90. "RE: Pissing On America"
FYI I wasn't involved in that decision. Go ask the people who were.

If O'Reilly's guest ends up being correct he is a big douche bag for getting ahead of the official announcement. No honor in that, but just for a micro second, assume no charges are brought against him, yet you are fine with convicting him in the court of O'Reilly?

I thought conservatives love the Constitution? Since you seem to know more than the person whose job it is to decide whether to bring charges or not, what exactly will Bergdahl be charged with?

Nemont

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And again to show how UnAmerican you are I pointed out the actual facts.

NeMont (5965 posts) Click to EMail NeMont Click to send private message to NeMont Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jan-27-15, 12:11 PM (MST)
100. "RE: Pissing On America"
Glen: Reading, you ain't doing it right.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bowe-bergdahl-be-charged-desertion-officials-say-n294466

While a court martial could lead to imprisonment, defense and military officials tell NBC News it is likely Bergdahl would be given consideration for the 5 years he spent in captivity and be permitted to leave the Army with a "less than honorable discharge." If accepted, Bergdahl would be denied as much as $300 thousand in back pay and bonuses, and reduced in rank to at least Private First Class, the rank he held when he disappeared from his outpost in Afghanistan.


to Wit:He will not get a dishonorable, it will be an other than honorable discharge.

He "may" forfeit money for his time in captivity, as in they have not disbursed those funds to him yet pending the outcome of his case.

All that being said.

" Army General Mark Milley, the command authority in the Bergdahl case, has not publicly released his findings."


You sure seem happy that this young American man's life is ruined. He has to pay for his own choices but it is nothing to cheer about like you are.

Nemont
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So not once did I do or say a single thing you accused me of. You are just a big bag of hotair that has to dream lies to make yourself feel better.

Here is a question for all those who are now so concerned about the tragic death of 6 soldiers who were killed look for Bergdahl? Who order them to go on those missions? Was that a lawful order and could those soldiers refused such an order?

Your answer will speak volumes of either your understanding of how the Army operates or how stupid you are.

Nemont
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Dude- he must have really impressed the military since rank and file have a 15% approval rating for Obama. Those 5 terrorists were not regular dune coons, they were the absolute heart of the Taliban in command positions. I am sure Valerie Jarrett who was in the Muslim Sisterhood and a good Iranian was behind the staging of this mess.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

How much discipline is allowed in boot training compared to the Vietnam era? Maybe we should go beck to that era.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Take it in its totality.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Make it too rough and nobody will sign up, meaning you'd have to bring back the draft. and you can't do that because nobody will agree to your elective wars if they think it might involve them or their family.



None of you clowns have answered , if we change it to " Leave some behind " who gets to decide who's earned a rescue and who gets their head sawed off ? answer the question or admit you're morons.







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RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Answer the question and take in that answer.

Nemont
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

>Make it too rough and nobody
>will sign up, meaning
>you'd have to bring back
>the draft. and you
>can't do that because nobody
>will agree to your elective
>wars if they think it
>might involve them or their
>family.
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>None of you clowns have answered
>, if we change it
>to " Leave some behind
>" who gets to
>decide who's earned a rescue
>and who gets their head
>sawed off ?
>answer the question or admit
>you're morons.
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We all know how Hillary feels about it ''What difference does it make''
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

So, Nemont and Dude think it is just peachy to do the trade. How about some accountability for the dead American soldiers who will be killed by the five in the near future. That is the rub. Nothing to do with trying to get Bergdahl back and everything to do with endangering American lives via a very bad deal. They knew he was a deserter and they still did the deal.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

LAST EDITED ON Mar-26-15 AT 10:13AM (MST)[p]Glen,

Those are two different issues. No where in anything I posted did I give the President a thumbs up for giving up 5 Taliban prisoners.

I said I don't understand it or don't know what the talks were. I never said Obama was correct.

I said the military ethos has been to leave no man behind.

I wasn't party to the deal, didn't agree with it and still don't. None of that changes the fact that the Army got it's soldier back and then after figuring out the entire case will bring him to justice.

How do you get young men and women to volunteer to join the military if is advertised that we won't move heaven and earth to return them. He now has to face up to his actions.

That other were killed looking for him is tragic and more difficult to accept but again who ordered those missions to search for him? And if it was a lawful order explain how the troops could have refused that order? It is not as if these troops just decided on their own to roam around searching for him.

How do you suggest we undo this deal and get the 5 Taliban prisoners back?


Nemont
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

At this point what difference does it make?
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

If we couldn't find anything tp press charges on with these 5 ragheads how dangerous were they? are you going to lock up and throw away the key every possible person of interest in the world? dipchits. and why shouldn't Bergdahl be brought home to face a court ?

Maybe it isn't the 5 ragheads or Bergdahl you have a problem with, you just don't give a FF about justice for anyone. just watch FOX and pass judgement from your single wide that's how wingnuts do it.



A asked who gets to decide which soldiers come home? I'm waiting.














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RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Why would I support justice for five top commanders in the Taliban? Do you think they had constitutional rights? Why would anyone think the chain of command did not put the orders out to look for him? The kids over there just did their duty and went looking. No we can't turn the clock back now so yes Bergdahl will get a fair trial which he should. The trade had nothing to do with him and was just another stunt by the WH to create a photo op with two good muslim Americans and to flush the worst out of GITMO so Obama could fulfill his campaign promise. Kind of like executive amnesty, ACA, EPA rules abd the attempts by the ATF to cut off gun sales. It is all about the O.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

LAST EDITED ON Mar-26-15 AT 01:51PM (MST)[p]Glen,

I give a $h!t What happens to the Taliban. I was not part of the talks to get Bergdahl back. I have never once said trading him for 5 Taliban was a good deal or one I would make. I said the ethos of the Military is, "leave no man behind". Period. Even somebody who was a deserter.

Take the trade up with Obama. That fact is that the Army Chain of Command placed a very high priority on getting him back and now he will be charged per the UCMJ.

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http://www.defense.gov/Releases/Release.aspx?ReleaseID=16749

Nemont
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

....unfortunately, I think Obama did this to please the enemy...I don't think he gives a sh!t about Bergdahl...military ethos....or war heros.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

LOL
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

LAST EDITED ON Mar-26-15 AT 06:09PM (MST)[p]Obama did not do this to please the enemy. He did it for political reasons because he was up to his neck in bad press on the scandals and wanted something to please the press and citizens.
As a ex-Army service man, I have to agree on bringing all back if possible. If one proves to have deserted his post and it cost lives of his fellow comrades, give the coward deserter life in prison or death if convicted on those charges.

Obama just paid to high of a price because he was looking out for himself in getting something positive in the news papers. That was why the spin was applied by the white house staff that the deserter was a "hero" as being a coward deserter would not get them the good public relations they were looking for.

For them to call the military men, who came forward, Psychopaths, was shameful at best, because they were pissed their little coverup "hero" story was blown. That is the type of people Obama has surrounded himself with.

RELH
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Yeah, Obama is just set on getting that 3rd term. there nothing that muslim america hating terrorist wouldn't do to get it. oh yeah, and he's black too.

I would not put it past you to hope americans die as long as it somehow can be used against Obama. I think your hatred is really that deep.

you people are just too simple to talk to.
















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RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Stop projecting 440.....you are the master of HATE......no one hate like a liberal
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

>Stop projecting 440.....you are the master
>of HATE......no one hate like
>a liberal
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RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Dude besides not being able to see what is in front of your own eyes, you also are one sick puppy. Psychopath is a term more befitting you instead of those servicemen that came forward to tell the truth.

RELH
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

LAST EDITED ON Mar-27-15 AT 09:09AM (MST)[p]

WTF are you babbling about? it took 11 months after he was home to come up with the truth and decide his fate. some cop you must have been , listen to a few rumors. case closed.

You still haven't answered , who gets to decide which soldiers get to come home and who stays behind? it's obvious you're either too dumb or just smart enough not to take this one on. so maybe I can offer some options.

The CIC ? applause meter? Rupert? Palin? national poll? flip a coin? Punxsutawny Phil ?












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RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Some more of your piss a$$ spin. We should leave it up to the military to decide who comes home or not. Just as it was done in this case where they lost 6 members searching for that deserter.
The truth was out there 10 months ago. It just took the military brass 11 months to decide to buck Obama and bring desertion charges against the deserter. I wonder how many more military brass will Obama purge for going against what outcome he wanted.

Now you know why Obama's approval rating is only 15% with military personnel.

RELH
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

LAST EDITED ON Mar-27-15 AT 09:37AM (MST)[p]It would appear barry gets to decide. Wish he'd decide to bring that Pakistan Dr that helped him shoot osama to the us, or maybe that villager and his family that helped Marcus Luttrell stay alive and make it home. Those sound like potentially great americans worthy of a rose garden photo op, but he doesn't want to improve the countries greatness he wants to take her down a peg or two.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

>LAST EDITED ON Mar-27-15
>AT 09:37?AM (MST)
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>It would appear barry gets to
>decide. Wish he'd decide to
>bring that Pakistan Dr that
>helped him shoot osama to
>the us, or maybe that
>villager and his family that
>helped Marcus Luttrell stay alive
>and make it home. Those
>sound like potentially great americans
>worthy of a rose garden
>photo op, but he doesn't
>want to improve the countries
>greatness he wants to take
>her down a peg or
>two.
+1
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Well that's sort of an answer. and since the milirary and the CIC both wanted to bring him home we're done here nothing changes. what a waste of time you clowns are.


By the way we don't have a draft. if you don't like your boss don't sign up and don't reinlist. we'd be much better off to bring the draft back anyway see if I care.
















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RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

>Well that's sort of an answer.
> and since the milirary
>and the CIC both wanted
>to bring him home we're
>done here nothing changes. what
>a waste of time you
>clowns are.
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>By the way we don't have
>a draft. if you don't
>like your boss don't sign
>up and don't reinlist. we'd
>be much better off to
>bring the draft back anyway
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otay Gomer Pyle.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

We should never leave any soldier behind, however, we have special people, special units, called special forces who are trained in rescuing hostages. Trading/negotiating with our enemies is not how it's done.

+1 DW
 
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>It would appear barry gets to
>decide. Wish he'd decide to
>bring that Pakistan Dr that
>helped him shoot osama to
>the us, or maybe that
>villager and his family that
>helped Marcus Luttrell stay alive
>and make it home. Those
>sound like potentially great americans
>worthy of a rose garden
>photo op, but he doesn't
>want to improve the countries
>greatness he wants to take
>her down a peg or
>two.



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ved-navy-seal-life-line-u-s-article-1.2077019

The Afghan who helped Lutrell is no longer in Afghanistan. We helped him leave.

Nemont
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

It's been 10yrs, he's still not on us soil and I didn't see barry's name once in the article. Kinda like Boehner invited Ghani.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Like I said. Having a priority for a just or good cause is not Obama's forte. His only priority is his agenda and political pats on the back at ANY PRICE.

That Afgan and Pakastani doctor should have been top priority on granting them visas for them and their immediate family to locate here. Obama does not care as shown by his very lack of doing anything. I guess he figures it will not give him enough good press to pick up his phone and order the state dept. to secure their freedom and passage here. Any person with a lick of common sense should be asking "WHY" did you do so much for a deserter and turn your back on two that showed their loyalty & friendship to this country at the risk or their lives and their family's lives.

RELH
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Why did President Bush not get him out from June of 2005 to Jan of 2009? Was President Bush just playing politics with the Afghans life? That seems a little like forgetting the entire timeline of events.

I don't know how we would get the Pakistani doc out of the prison he is in.

Nemont
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Can't argue with either comment nemont. But it seems he went out of his way to negotiate a deal for Bergdahl, I don't hear much about the ongoing negotiations he's embroiled in to get these 2 men and their families on us soil.
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

If the Afganistan villager sought refuge when Bush was in office, then Bush also failed to do the right thing. As for getting the doctor out of prison, I am willing to bet that 100 million would get the results to free him and bring him and his family to the U.S. 100 million is a drop in the bucket for this country. Far better deal then cutting loose 5 terrorists for a Army deserter.

RELH
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

he's sounding even more heroic.....
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

....deafening silence
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Crickets......
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

I think they know now that Obama was made aware of the NCIS report indicating the deserter wanted to make contact with the enemy since that investigation and report was prepared several years prior to the prisoner swap.

That in itself points to a fabrication by the white house by spinning the details in order to make Obama look good in bringing back a captured GI. I would love to find out which idiot on Obama's advisor team dreamed up this scenario and sold it to Obama. One big SNAFU that bit them in the butt instead of making them look good. This SNAFU convinced many citizens that Obama and his team can not be trusted to tell the truth when given both sides of the story.

RELH
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

So what? the pentagon and CIC said we leave no man behind. charges an be brought after he's home and they were.

WTF do you want?

and I'll ask one more time and I won't get an answer. who decides which servicemen we bring home and which we won't?
















Stay thirsty my friends
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

So what price is an American worth if a Pakistani Doctor is worth $100 million?

Bowe Bergdahl appears to be a deserter who is going to get what he deserves. The appearance of his parents in the Rose Garden and the statements about his service were a sham that was concocted by the Politicians, not by the military. There is good evidence that the military was ordered to shut up and carry out their orders. That should be a political fight the right is willing to use. I have no issue with calling Obama out for trying to get political points off of the Bergdahl case. I have not idea why he traded away the 5 camel jockeys he did.

None of subtracts from the basic premise that our creed and code of conduct is that we leave no man behind. Even ones who we will try in court for their actions on the battlefield.

Another Truth emerges as well. Homer is still a douche bag liar who cannot own his own lies. I will ask again for him to produce even one quote of mine that said I did anything heroic. He can't because he is the unable to but let's see if he is man enough to own his lies, I highly doubt it.

Nemont
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

...better yet...show me where I claimed you said it......I'm not entitled to my own impression of you??.......you have your own impression of me..
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Dude already told you once and you forgot in your drunken stupor. The military should decide as what lengths it will go too in order to bring a member home. They are the ones that will be put in harms way on any military rescue mission.

My b!tch is not the fact they traded for the deserter so much. I do feel they gave far more then they got. The real b!tch is that they distorted and outright lied about the facts to gain political recognition for their act. They also went out of their way to discredit the G.I.'s that came forward and even referred to them as liars. One reason why our military servicemen/servicewomen give Obama over 70% disproval rating. Obama is no friend of our servicemen.

RELH
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

RELH,

The President is the Commander in Chief, per the Constitution, so our Founding Fathers decided that there would be civilians in charge of the military.

That Obama order the military to do something is perfectly within his power, to celebrate it in the Rose Garden and to out right lie was a political stunt that he should be raked over the coals for.

Nemont
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

If we can forget the " mission accomplished " stunt I think we can forgive a bringing home a less than perfect POW stunt. big deal.


RELH who gives a FF what Obama's approval in the military is? if you don't like your boss get another job. and the military did make the call to bering Bergdahl home, so STFU if that's who you think gets to decide you're argueing with yourself again.

I'd like to have someone prove the 5 ragheads traded are that important if we couldn't even find charges to press them with. there are over 2 billion muslims in the world but these 5, they make all the difference do they? bullchit .

Bin Laden was the top dog, he was fed to the fish and what difference did it make ? none. so get real you cowards they're lined up to take over for those 5 farts in the wind you're so terrified of .








Stay thirsty my friends
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

When was the last time we traded 5 of the enemy for 1 deserter?
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Dude I have come to the conclusion that even though you claim to support our troops, you are as much against them as Obama is. I am sure that some of your past relatives that served in WW11 would kick your butt for the statements you make.
How does a person get to be such a miserable little man as you are?

RELH
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

The military is an occupation, if you don't like it don't sign up. if we need a military we can get one one way or the other when we need .

I support those who serve but that doesn't mean they get to choose the CIC we have elections for that and a constitution. once again, if you don't like your boss find another job.


Speaking of that constitution you don't like to follow, the only military I would need to support is the navy if we followed it. we aren't supposed to have a free standing army and why is that?


















Stay thirsty my friends
 
RE: 1 step closer to proving the great negotiator traded 5 high ranking terrorists for a deserter!

Thank you for proving my point!!!

RELH
 

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