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Hey guys, I need your opinions and thoughts, good or bad. But in this thread only. Anything else, email me.

1- I want to know what you all think of these forums. Are they still useful for hunting info., finding hunting friends, etc.?
2- Should the PUBLIC forum be cut from the lineup? Is it useful or just an avenue for troulemakers to attempt to go unknown.
3- Should less be tolerated? I get a lot of heat over threads that mention certain names and touch on certain topics.
4- Would you rather see topics in forums more focused. For example, here in the Mule Deer forum, there are threads that have nothing to do with Mule Deer. Should they be deleted? Or, is some of this stuff entertaining enough to allow?
5- Any other thoughts?

Bottomline, there are people who really get pissed off at me for what some people say in these forums. I end up feeling horrible for things that I often don't even know exist. You see, unlike popular belief, I don't read every thread or post posted in these forums.

Don't get me wrong, I get good emails and from time to time read threads that make me feel good. But, one pissed off guy speaks louder in my ear than dozens of happy dudes.

All in all, I think the forums are entertaining, not always focused, but that's ok, as there's only so much you can say about deer and elk.
I still think there is a good amount of good stuff posted, though not many guys are sharing where they see giant bucks, but who would? Useful information seems to still be available if a guy looks.
The one thing that does bother me the most are the smartass comments. Sure, if you're buddies, it can be tolerated, but I feel ashamed when someone new asks a question and other people jump on his butt with a bunch of comments that might draw a crack in the chops if they were standing face to face. Nobody likes to be treated like that.

So, I want to know what you all think. Lets hear it.

Brian Latturner
MonsterMuleys.com
 
Brian,
I think the forums are all great! Sometimes things get heated but that is because those guys that start all the crap dont have anything better to do with their free time. I have been the same way a few times. All in All I think they should stay about the same....other people may have different and better ideas but this is great for me...I love seeing big animals and big sheds!
YB
 
I like em! There are a lot of folks here that really know their stuff and have some good info to pass on. I have met some real good guys on this board and yack with them off of the site as well as on. I do believe, however, that the public furum needs to be axed. It seems to bring out more trouble makers (man that is the pot calling the kettle black) than not. If someone cannot commit to registering, then they should not be allowed to join in. I think that some subjects that can, and most likely will, end up in a frenzy of bickering and pissed off people, should be nuked. Maybe a new set of guidelines on subject matter. Some of the off-subjects are nice to have. It shouldnt be all hunting all the time. Good natured humor is allways needed to keep interest up. I know that I have been an instigator of many a war of words. I would like to see some of the degrading comments toward others toned down. My self included! If it is done as a lighthearted jab ,then that is ok , but to deliberately knock someone down is not right. I know that I have been a big offender of this also, but am willing to change.
"Can't we all git along?"
Over all this is a good site and would like to see it get even better. Thanks Brian!
Eric
 
Brian,

This website is the best hunting website out there. There is no where someone can go and read up on usefull info, see pictures of amazing animals with just one click of a button. You have brought so many people together under a common cause its unbelievable. I have learned a lot from hearing other guys talk and share stories. I am a 21 almost 22 year old college student with a passion for the outdoors. There are guys on here that could give a crap less about me but most everyone on here is really great. willing to give me useful tips and answer my questions, and help me post pictures. I really appreciate that. I also appreciate it when people ask questions and i can help them out. I dont know what i would do if there was no MM. I understand the kidding and joking between one another but i have seen it go to far. This is all in good fun and it should stay that way. We are all here for similar reasons and share common interest. Thats what we need to keep in mind. And just keep everything on the positive.

Garrett
 
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Brian,
I am a new member, and it only took me a couple of times reading some of the threads and I was hooked, I signed up to be a member. This is my kinda place,I like seeing pictures and reading about big game,guns,advise,ETC. even got a laugh or two out of bigfoot/bobcat, but i think it needed to stay at the campfire on one thread.

I noticed some non-members were being smart ass's, but i have heard some good info from the public forum.

I think you have a great thing going and I wouldn't want to see you change anything, I try to stay out of heated topics but I have been their a couple of times, when I should have shut-up.

I cant believe you get e-mails from members complaining about other members, sorry if any has been about me.
 
Hello Brian,
I think this is the greatest hunting site anywhere.

On another note I can see how you may get some grief because of what others say and at times I know I am as guilty as anyone for getting out of line.
Maybe some of us "myself" included have taken advantage of how open and tolerant this site has become.
When things have gotten a little carried away I have seen where posts have been deleted and for good reason.
The tolerance level here is one of the reasons so many like this site so much. Not too restrictive, yet when it's time to get involved I think you and the moderators do a heck of a good job.
I would change nothing in my opinion but if this is another hint for guy's like me to chill out a little...I will listen and try to grow up a little more. LOL

Many members I have met personally or have emailed or talked to them over the phone from time to time. Without his site I would have missed out on some great friendships that have evolved.
For this I thank you for giving us the avenue to learn, listen and teach one another about our passion for hunting.

I will try and tone down my loud mouth and continue to enjoy MM as it is. If new rules or tolerances are needed I will definitely abide by your decisions.
Thanks again for such a great hunting site.
Best,
Jerry Knack
 
"Many members I have met personally or have emailed or talked to them over the phone from time to time. Without his site I would have missed out on some great friendships that have evolved.
For this I thank you for giving us the avenue to learn, listen and teach one another about our passion for hunting."


well put jerry.... I wouldnt change a thing about the site. This is the greatest hunting site/forums on the web. Thanks for all you have done. The only question in my mind is having an open public forum. I think the good post's weed out the bad. I also think we would miss alot of information if the public forum wasnt here. "rumor mill" for one. Its amazing how many of those turn out to be true. So all in all, I wouldnt change a thing.
 
Hello Brian!
This is the best site going!
I look forward to it most every day!
Like some of the guys have said,with a single click,you can go from a very serious discussion,to having questions answered,to seeing awesome trophy animals,to gut-busting humor!
It is very much like real life!
Don't let some stiff nosed,hard ass that may have gotten picked on a few times influence you into changing this site into being one of those sites where the members cannot cut loose with a little fun.Why do you think the site has grown so much latley?
Yeah, sometimes a thread will not conform to the specific forum,but sometimes the poster just wants to communicate with the guys that hang out in that particular place, as some folks don't check out all the categories.
The public forum can be the most fun sometimes! I'd hate to lose it!
Because I am a fishing junkie,I'd like to see maybe a fishing,trapping,bird hunting forum,but overall,I could not ask for a better site than the one we have here!!
Like most all of us frequent posters,you have to have a thick skin,and not let your detractors get to you! You can't please EVERYONE all the time no matter how hard you try!
THANK YOU for everything this site is!
Harry
 
HELLO Brian

I'M SURE YOU'VE NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT ON ME!!!(he,he!!!)

STATING THE TRUTH HERE AND THERE HAS REALLY STIRRED IT,I'M NOT MEANING TO CAUSE TROUBLE,I'VE EVEN TOLD THE OTHER WANN-BE'S TO SHOW UP AT MY DOOR AND WE'D SETTLE IT,BUT HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY SHOW,THEY JUST KEEP HIDING AND RUNNING THEIR BIG MOUTH'S!!!!

I GET RIGHT BACK IN THEIR FACE AND HAVE A HARD TIME HOLDING BACK,SOMETIMES SAYING THINGS I SHOULDN'T ON M.M.!!!

REMEMBER:THERE IS ONLY ONE REAL bobcat,THERE ARE DOZENS OF WANNA-BE'S!!!

MY POST'S GET NUKED ALL THE TIME AND THEY PROBABLY NEED TO BE,BUT IF YOU LOOK BACK IT'S USSUALLY A WANNA-BE HIDING ALL INFO,DISABLING ALL ICONS,HIDING BEHIND FAKE PHONY WANNA-BE NAMES THAT STIRRED IT!!!

YA,I NEED TO LET IT GO,AS SEVERAL M.M. MEMBERS HAVE TOLD ME!!!

IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE IF bobcat IS MENTIONED PEOPLE ARE GETTING MAD JUST SEEING THE NAME,THE MM MEMBERS THAT DON'T 'HIDE' CAN TELL THE REAL bobcat FROM THE PHONY bobcats!!!

SOME OF THESE FAKE,PHONY,WANNA-BE'S WOULDN'T BE RUNNING THEIR MOUTH NEAR AS MUCH IF YOU'D MAKE THEM REGISTER THEIR INFORMATION,THEY THINK IT'S FUNNY TO HIDE,AND RUN THEIR BIG MOUTH AS LONG AS THEY CAN HIDE!!!

SOME WILL DISAGREE,AN EYE FOR AN EYE!!!

THE ONLY bobcat THAT BETTER QUIT BEFORE I OFFEND SOME OF THE OTHER WANNA-BE'S!!!
 
Hello Brian,

This is the best - and only site I frequent. I like virtually everything here. There is a good flow of information and I tend to learn a lot through the course of the year. I'm sorry some of the posts end up giving you hertburn, and I agree with your concern. We could use a litte more "courtesy and respect" in the forums.

I think the latitude given to topics in the various forums is fine. I don't kow that I'd consider changing anything except to have a little more concern for other folks by some of the users. And no - bobcat - you are not one I'm thinking of!! You're just too entertaining to tone down.

I'd just say thanks to Brian and ask that you not worry about the MM site. It is great and appreciated by nearly 100% of the users.

Jim
 
Brian,

1 - I find the forums very interesting, informative and entertaining. This is the only hunting website I visit, because it caters to my favorite types of hunting.

2 - Keep the public forum.

3 - I think the only thing that shouldnt be tolerated is profanity, lewd or material that should not be viewed by kids.

4 - I'd say avoid trying to control where stuff is posted. It dosent bother me any.

5 - I think a lot of the excitement that occurs on here is the equivalent of "road rage". I dont think anybody gets hurt...or do they? Maybe not physically anyway. I see it as a good outlet. We all express ourselves differently.

As for bobcatbess...chill dude (you are being provoked for entertainment by someone...and no it AINT me)
 
Brian,
Don't change a thing! We're having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have here. Keep nuking the posts that need to be, and keep being thick skinned. Rick
 
Brian, even though I post very little, as you know, I have been a member of this site since day 1.
I pretty much agree with the comments that have been made here so far. In the early days, there was a lot more good natured ribbing going on but also a lot of very useful information being shared as well. As the membership in the site has increased, I have seen a lot more crap being laid out but the best thing to do is just IGNORE the BS and go on about your business.

I believe posts that have been deleted should have been, and personal attacks shouldn't be tolerated, but the site is still the best thing going. Don't change a thing!

Thank YOU for everything.
 
Brian,

Well I agree with SOME of the responses posted so far, however, I have a slightly different opinion on just a few of your questions.

1. I still enjoy the forum separation (bowhunting, campfire, etc.) as they GENERALLY tend to the forum topic.

2. Ahhhhh, the Public Forum. Get rid of it???? Well, it used to be a place for new members to post a few things and get comfortable with the board before registering. However, as of late it seems to be a place where attacks on people are the norm. Quite frankly, it needs to stop. Yeah most of us are thick skinned and simply stay out of the bashing, but what's more important is some are not! It takes away from the site and detours new members from participating. Disagreements are fine, personal attacks should not be tolerated. If that means everyone has to register....so be it. IMO

3. To answer directly, yes. I think you answered your own question in your last paragraph. You're absolutely right, the smartass comments need to stop. If one feels they need to admonish someone.....let's say harshly...then he/she should PM that person and not do it in a forum for others to read. Now I don't feel moderators should confuse this with honest opinions from someone. Just personal attacks and things better left un-said. It's pretty bad when you have to re-post rules at least twice a year to "remind" us. (For the record Bobcatbess I enjoy your posts. :) )

4. You're right, it is tough to keep everything focused on mule deer and elk. Off topic threads don't concern me. If I'm not interested, I don't reply or read.

All in all this is the best site around where I have met and conversed with many people just like me.....Mule Deer Fanatics! Some I've met and some I've communicated by e-mail/phone. However, I know you have noticed some of the older, well respected members are no longer posting here and I feel it is due to the behavior you are referring to. When that begins to occur with frequency, then minor tune-ups are in order. Of course this is all just my opinion and I'm only a bowhunter. :)

BOHNTR )))-------------->
 
Brian,
I think this is a great site...I wouldn't miss the public forum...Remove it for a couple months and see what happens??.
 
Brian,

IMHO, the public forum needs to be axed. If the registered members were smart enough to not venture out and participate in the non-registered users baiting and name calling it could stay. But unfortunaltey alot of the non-reg guests out there are actully registered users baiting. So I would elimintate the opportunity.

I visit ALOT of different forums on the net ranging from audio/electronics to automotive/motorcycle related. This is the only hunting website I frequent on a regular basis and in my observations it is about middle of the road on how it is moderated. Some of the forums I belong to if you simply sneeze at the wrong time you are banned. Posting the wrong thread under the wrong topic will get you banned and there are some that allow absolutely NO argueing, flaming of others or profanity. Idle chit chat can get your thread locked or deleted by a moderator. Then I visit some that its a free for all, anything goes from profanity, posting of lewd pics and berating members opinions or questions seems to be the norm and is expected. I would say that the forums here are still useful and entertaining, possibly moderators could be a little more heavy handed on the known troublemakers (like myself?) and let them know that if they step out of line they will get tossed.

Topics being posted in the wrong forum at this site, while they may not get the desired responses, isnt really a problem since the number of users on the site is relatively small. One site I visit in particular has nearly 40,000 registered users and is a very active board so if topics get posted in the wrong area it would soon become very cluttered. Moderators on that site stay busy policing the activity.

As far as guys getting pissy with you about getting "picked on" here, theres not alot you can do about that except moderate the troublemakes off the board. The person doing the complaining has the choice not to visit here either. It is the internet and some people need to thicken their skin.

One question to you Brian,

Have you entertained the idea of going to a different forum format? Many used to be formats like this forum (DCForum) but are switching formats to the infopop UBB's. IMHO they are a more user friendly forum. Im not sure of the costs involved in this format vs. the other.

Good luck in your decesion on what to do, I hope you dont decide to pull the plug on MM altogether and scrap it. Ive been around here for nearly 5 years now and have made some good contacts here and would miss it if this board went defunct.


Mike
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Brian,
This site ROCKS!!! It is where a muley addict can come get their fix. There isn't a hunting site out there that compares to this one. I would never have thought I would have made so many good friends over a computer, but I have. There are many many here that I would love to some day share my campfire with. This site is like a huge hunting camp. You sit around the fire BSing about the ones that got away and the ones that didn't. You laugh and poke fun at each other and bust your gut over some of the stories being told. Every once in a while someone gets drunked up and has to be put in his place. LOL! But overall it is really the atmosphere that allows us to be ourselves. Other sites censor their members really hard. They constantly delete posts, move posts and axe members. It seems like everyone needs to get along like sheep and agree or else they get the boot. Just look at when someone posts a picture of a deer on those sites, they get 50 "Nice Buck" posts. That's it. No one says anything different. It is like they cut and paste, "Nice Buck". That gets boring really fast. MM is a breath of fresh air because it is full of characters (like BOBCATBESS LMAO) that march to their own drum.
There is some real BS posts that don't need to be here though. I think they mainly are on the Public Forum. I, personally don't see a why we need the public forum but that is just my opinion. I think the Alert buttons work good on the other forums. If something is getting out of hand or offensive the members can alert the moderators to nuke the post. There is a few that go under the radar and don't get nuked right away but they are few and far between.
As for new forums, I think we need a DeerKing forum where he has to supply us with new big buck pics every day. LOL! But in all seriousness, I think everything is covered under General Hunting. I wouldn't get into moving posts that don't fit the theme of the forum, I've never been bothered by that.
Keep up the Great Work. You are doing one He!! of a job.
 
I think unregistered people should not be able to post. I agree we need to stop the personal attacks but somehow maintain the wild atmosphere with ribbing people. I think getting rid of the unregistered will stop crap like the sasquatch and bobcatmess situations that just bore people. This is a great site and will keep getting better. Thanks Brian........... Allen Taylor......
 
I think these forums are good overall. It allows stories, concerns, information, good and bad to be shared.

I would like to say that I think some of the Deleting of posts is suspect. We have arguments and different opinions which should be expressed, but can not because the threads are removed. For example, the Burly Bucks thread was removed after many voiced their disdain for the video and warned others from watching it. Now we see the Burly Bucks video on the Sells Item sidebar. Seems too convenient. That is just one example of the over-sensativity.

I realize this site is for commercial reasons, but these forums should serve as place for people to express their thoughts. I have never posted a selfserving Commercial post, but I don't like when someone's post gets deleted when they refer to their business. I remember when you went to Huntifo . com and displayed this website as an alternative.

As for the negative EMAILS, well just remember the whiners are always the loudest. PETA whines and gets heard, but it doesn't make them right. Roll with it and know that everyone has different ideas. Good job overall with this Site. THANKS~
 
Brian. I respect your site enough that I will stop picking on the bess if I need to. I wouldn't want him to get his feelings hurt. To me it's just good fun a couple a minutes a day while life is boring.

In fact I've probably had enough fun to lay off for a while. Thanks for tolerating it while you did. Of course, Robert, it's not because of your threats to kick A$$. I know who you are and where you live. Maybe I'll stop in some day and we can embrace.

Overall I don't think you can expect your site to be much better. Internet forums are based on secrecy. Even making people register allows the disruptive elements. The people who get aggitated are those that get their feelings hurt easily.

I say keep everthing the same. There's nothing better.

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MESS

IT'S TIME TO QUIT HIDING!!!

NO NEED FOR EMBRACE,JUST STATE YOUR NAME!!!

YOU JUST THINK YOUR PICKING ON ME,YOU AIN'T!!!

TELL ME,WAS IT THE HIGH ELEVATION TUNE-UP THAT MADE YOU MAD???

OR!!!

WAS IT THE BIG LIST OF REASONS I POSTED ON THE "DECLINE OF MULE DEER'POST???

IT'S O.K.,YOU CAN ADMIT TO BEING THE 'STRESS' ALSO!!!

YOU'VE LISTED MY NAME,ADDRESS,PHONE NUMBER,MAKE&MODEL OF MY HUNTIN TRUCK,THE GUN I SHOOT,I HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER NOW!!!

IT'S TIME TO LIST YOUR'S!!!

YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE FOREVER!!!

THE ONLY REAL bobcat!!!
 
I've been hooked on MM.com since 2000, and have been what I would call insulted a few time's and there are still a few smart a$$'s hanging around but I don't think you would have to change much, don't know where I would go to hear muley fanatics talk about hunting.......

concerning my last post "nuts about hunting ethical", the bow distance thing, never meant to bring up any negitive stuff just wanted to hear comments about distance I'm a little slow when it come's to thinking things through first......

So once again Sorry........
 
I have only been a member for a short time but i think bura nut is right have everybody who wants to post something register and see how that goes for awhile but keep this sight going i love it
 
Brian.... to answer honestly, yes the forums are still useful. Questions get asked and a lot of people find an answer they may not have been able to elsewhere.
As far as the public forum goes.......kill it....nothing but problems there.
Should less be tolerated....no. The people here can USUALLY debate, disagree, B.S., call someone on the mat or whatever, but heck man, most everyone takes it for what it is worth and moves on and usually go on being friends and what not.
Where stuff falls in different forums is no big deal to me either.
You are right about the heat some new people get and that in my opinion is wrong. But as far as people getting pissed off, well, if they are just flat out attacked for no reason, then yes, they have a right to be upset, but if you get pissy e-mails because Joe Schmoe got his feelings hurt because someone disagreed with him...well you can't make everyone happy.
Let's just keep on doing what we are doing...this by far is the best site....let's just have some fun ...hell, it's just huntin' we are talkin' about anyway!:)
 
I think this is a great site I have been here since 2000 and like most everything about it. However , some of the soap opera bullshit is gettin out of hand at times. There are alot of things said that if face to face would never be said. Keep up the good work and by far this is the best site around.
T264
 
I have been cruisin this site literally since It was opened. I have been through the mud, the water, the clouds and the sun on this site. It's been one hell of a ride for me.
Personally I love it. I've shared my hunting stories with people, reguardless if they believe them or not. I have had Private messages telling me thank you for the info / help after a hunt and a harvest. I have helped people move to vegas that I have met on this site.I've met some really nice people on this site and if MM was to ever throw some kinda party in the west you had better believe I would show up. I have been checking this site daily since I was about 14. During the hunting season it is like my Eastmans catalog, off season it is my only place I can go to read about monster bucks. There are always new stories, always new pictures, always new people and this site is always a fun place to just hangout. I have had hour - 2 hour long chats in the chat room that is nothin but a couple guys BSin about days past.
Like it was posted, this site is like a big campfire. Brian you really have made a great thing here. Don't change a thing.



-Cass
 
Brian, I like the public forum, & it plays an important role for your site, its a place where grown-men & adolescents can go B.S. & behave like adolescents, kind of like regression therapy for Muley freaks.
Bottom line is, its your site so do whatever the hell you want with it, as long as you don't allow those snibbling, belly-aching, whine as$'s, to run things around here, those freaks are better suited for sites like Fake-Tree anyway.
These pretentious, self-rightious, do-gooders, take themselves way to seriously, kind like a hyper-constapated club, for rigid rednecks, I have to travel back east occationally & as a whole those people are not as relaxed as westerners, Muleys are a western game animal so let our web site reflect that same relaxed attitude & if they can't handle that, then let them go pump themselves.

Be that as it may, here's my suggestions on the matter, the public forum does not belong at the top of the forums page, it should be located at the bottom, below the campfire forums(top billing should go to the mule deer forum) & there should be no moderator for this forum, have a beware of what lurks below notice(typical habitat for trolls) & let it be a place where the bobcats can go duke it out, a place we can go learn cool insults, that we can later regurgitate to our mother in law or boss.
One other sugestion, knowing how old a member is before you chew thier a$$ out, would mitigate some people from comming un-glued.

Lastly, Brian thanks for the site.
 
Brain,

I think you should do what is best for you. I 'm sure you dont need any more stress in your life than what you already have to deal with. Lord knows i dont need anymore stress than what i have to put up with. If you want to know what I would do if this were my site and I was getting a ton of crap over the message boards I would probably shut'er down, but then again I'm sure 4,000 some odd registered members help with the online store..

Good info can still be found. The site is nothing less than awesome. Its not your fault some people are a-holes.

later, MP
 
I gotta vote leave things the way they are.If you don't like a certain forum,don't go there.If you get to cleaning up after everyone too much,it will take away what most of us like about this site-the open nature of things,with a person being able to speak their mind,good or bad.If it pisses someone off-tough!Don't take away what most of us like because a few can't handle reading some crap once in awhile!Just my opinion,I could be wrong(but I doubt it!).Later,N.T.
 
Brain,
I see the hard work that goes into this site! I love it! Its fresh,very useful,entertining. This is the only hunting web site I use and now as far as hunting its the off season and its slow so now we have to keep going until the draws start then the site is it peak!
Sure some b!tch! but I feel no one should be allowed to be unknown. The public forum has the most a~holes and I would'nt miss it how ever this is America and people should have a place to vent!!(I can choose to react any way I feel! right?)

keep it up! great site!
Jack
 
Brian
I think this site and the forums are fabulous. Very informative and fun. I think MM is doing a fine job of Plice work when it comes to uncalled for threads. I do think we could do with out the public forum. As soon as some one gets anonymity they feel like they can say and do or act as rediculous as they choose. Keep up the good work this site is AWESOME.
George


"We must HUNT"
 
Hey Brian:

I've been here for a while now although I don't post too often. I don't visit the other forums that much so can't really comment on them. MULE DEER are why we are here and why we will stay. This is the only site that feeds my passion.

Keep up the good work

Chuck
 
This is the only website I regularly visit. When I get to work I connect and get up to date on everything. It is like reading the newspaper every morning. I think the forums are working just fine. I think the moderators are doing a fine job. It does seem the public forum gets more hostile posts and responses than any of the others. It does not take much to register and if most of the distrubing complaints you are getting are the result of the Public forum then I would axe that forum. I have the belief that most members really enjoy this site and think you do a great job with it. I would not over react because of a few malcontents. that is my 2 cents Jim
 
Brian,
This is my FAVORITE site, period. I visit at least five days a week and sometimes more. Don't change a thing!!! Thanks, STEVE
 
Although I don't post as often as some, I normally check in and read through a few forums each day. I have learned a lot from some of the members and hopefully posted some useful info for others. If you have to change anything I think the public forum should go. The threads that don't interest me, I just skip over. Great site.

Phantom Hunter
 
Brian:

First I would like to thank you for this site, and the enormous service it does to big game hunters out west. I have learned more here about hunt techniques, equipment, weapons, ammo, archery, and the people that use it. Many days, I have gotten that "buzz" after seeing a post of a huge buck or bull (today included). I have also nearly p!ssed my pants laughing at somebodys post. I have dreamed endlessly while looking through the photogallery.

Whatever you need to do to make this site continue, I'm 100% for it. If you need to consolidate some forums, do it. Just please let the core of this website continue onward.

Again many thanks...Ed
 
Hunting the Mountains of North Carolina and Regions West

Brian;

I for one enjoy this forum very much- I have posted and replied to several topics-
this is the only one that I am linked to { ie; I am signed up for several forums and this one is the best for the USA]that keeps up on a daily basis-
there is great information on this forum-
if there is someone who is an ass "mule speaking- not to be disrespectful to the mule" you don't have to click their topic!
some site have ignore buttons!

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

Ken
 
Brian, thanks for this site. I love it. I have learned alot from the other members and received unexpected help more then a few times. It ain't broke so don't fix it. I don't visit the other forums I am not interested in and don't participate in the bashing in most cases. I think that the moderators and yourself are doing a great job.


Anthony Sarabia
 
i say leave the public forum up and runnin'. that way the guys that can't take the heat have a place to backshoot from. they're not gonna sign up and it's sorta like the fat loudmouthed kid that i went to grade school with that got his butt kicked everyday and never learned to shut up. he was handy to have around to slug when you were havin' a bad day. i'll say one thing, i'd rather put up with annonymous backshooters than some of the know-it-all, wannabees that are signed on. as hunters we need to take the privilege to hunt seriously, but need to take ourselves a little less serious and look at things with a wideangle lens. we all hunt and all need to be on the same side, instead of forming a bunch of little sides. what we all like to do overlaps with what everyone else likes to do, one way or another. and the things that we individually don't like, sorta do to. we need to all play on the same playground, but don't necessarily need to play the same game. some kids like the swings, some like the teeter totter. others like basketball, others like football. but they all like the playground. except for that damn fat kid. we all need to whup him on a regular basis.
 
....AND WHILE WE'RE ALL PLAYING DIFFERENT GAMES, THE BESS IS IN THE CORNER PLAYING WITH HIMSELF!!!!!!...

THE ONLY bobcat THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE FRIENDS ON A COMPUTER!!!!!!
 
Brian, don't change a thing...this is a great site..i have shared stories, pictures, tragedies, and personally met others through this site, and hope to continue doing so...as they say, it is 'my fix'...my only regrets are that i haven't personally bought anything from any of your advertisers...i will remedy that shortly....again, my (and many others) thanks to you and yours for allowing us to share and be a part of each others hunts and hunting camps..... this is the best....littlefoot
 
Brian.
This site is great. You have done a good job at keeping it up and running. Also I think you should keep the public forum up and running if people don't like what is being said there then tell them to not to visit the public forum
~Justin Richins
 
I would like for all(Posters) to be registered, do away with the public hide behind the computor forum.Been here a long time see a few changes so far the been good ones, Your site is the best one by far so run it as you see fit you haven't done us wrong yet.If a post gets out of line just delete it and move on.
Thanks for all the hard work you put in making this the best place to go to talk about Muley and elk hunting.
 
I think this site is great. Adding a fishing forum would be about the only thing that I would change.
There are a few threads that do get out of hand but I think that is your call. I don't care if you delete one of my posts if you don't think it is appropriate and I'm sure most of the regulars feel the same way.
Keep up the good work.
 
What if you had a password protected forum where some of these guys could go and high side on each other, just keep it there so nobody would have to see it if they did not want to. This way you could keep the public forum for potential new members. Just a thought.

Drum
 
Its a great place to learn new things. Some times you need waders to get through all the crap. Just think if someone finds a real yetti picture you might need to start a real forum for bigfoot lovers! this place is great!
 
Brian,
1. I think these forums are still useful. IMO you have the best hunting website I've found. Part of this is due to your hard work on building a great website and the other is due in part to the great folks attracted to your site. Without input from good people, things go dead. I do see more reluctance to post specifics and that is good. To much publicity just kills an area.
2. I'd keep the public part. It serves a useful purpose.
3. IMO when posts enter the realm of gossip and slander, take 'em out. People can be hurt by rumor and outright lies of jealous people. I like the positive stuff. No need to get rude.
4. I'd rather see posts in the appropriate forums. It keeps things more balanced. But it's not that bad as it is.
5. Don't quit the website!
only since you asked,
Steve


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Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming...
Wow! What a ride!'"
 
Why not have an advice column, simular to the Dear Abby column, which is a main stay of countless newspapers & a modern day cultural icon.

The Forum would enable hunters to ask advice from a team of hunters, about anything from tunning your bow to recognizing the scent of a doe in estrus. Posters & Dear Abby would all remain anonymous, thus preserving all thier fragile egos.

The name of the Forum could be called "Dear Wally" or somthing of those sorts.

Buckspy could be given creative latitude to call, Dear wally or respondents a dip-as$ on occation.

Plus if someone gave out advice about a honey-hole or another fact which some body else held sacred, they could not be drug through the mud or castrated cyber style.

Just a thought. BFE
 
Public forum: Must confess that that I usually visit it, although I could do without it. It seems like making people register, where you can personally email them and tell them privately to cool it, might be a good idea.

I was told when introduced to this site that it was "different" and I would need a thicker hide to last and that has been true, but it has been well worth the ride. People who are passionate about what they do are going to have a lower threshold for others who don't hold their views/ethics, especially when you are anonomous. It is the nature of the beast. Most people figure that out quickly.

How about a "guide for the new user" that is automatically emailed as a welcome to new people as they register with a FAQ's or some suggestions for new users such as: don't come on with 1 post and ask where the best place to hunt or the best unit to put in for, etc. Might help some newbys, especially kids, get orientated.

I do hate to see a newby that may be a kid come on here and ask a dumb question and get dumped on.

I love this site and visit it daily. Thanks for all your hard work.

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
 
This site has alot of useful info, BUT I don't come here much anymore. This site is known for its smartass comments. You can't say much without being attacked! The people you need to ask is the old regulars who won't see this post (cause they left). Maybe send an email to all registerd people. Then see your responses.

ProHunter
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
 
Prohunter, I agree. I don't post much anymore, but I log on every day. When BC or DK post those picture it makes my day. This is a good site and I don't mind the public forum. I would think about adding birds and fishing. Then we could fight about fishing in stocked ponds and using boats, you know, eithics.
 
Here's my take on things. I can assure you that we would see many more great buck pictures/stories/advice posted up if people could keep their smart ass comments to themselves. I've seen quite a few great bucks that will never end up being posted here because of crap that's happened in the past. It's funny how people generally start off posting up pictures they are proud of at first and then after a while someone rips on them or makes a comment and they quit posting pictures. In my opinion people visiting the site shouldn't have to learn to be thick skinned just because a couple of the people here feel the need to be dinks. It's not our job to publicly bash on people or question everyone elses ethics/judgment. Someone probably took the time to teach you what you know about the situation didn't they? If you see something you disagree with or feel that someone may need some advice or guidance then send them a personal e-mail. Bitching just to ##### is going to end up helping anyone but the anti's. In some ways it has already ended up screwing things up here on MM. Don't get me wrong. It's still a great site and has some good information but we've already lost some of the long timers and with them we lost their knowledge and possible advice. We've also missed out on some great buck pictures and stories that most of us would have liked to see. Lets clean it up and make this place worth visiting before it's too late.

NvrEnuf
 
I have a question for all of you? Would you be willing to pay a some sort of monthly fee to be able to post? I know there are pros and cons to going that route, but I am interested to know how people would feel about that option.
 
>I have a question for all
>of you? Would you be
>willing to pay a some
>sort of monthly fee to
>be able to post? I
>know there are pros and
>cons to going that route,
>but I am interested to
>know how people would feel
>about that option.

No

Mike
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Brian,

I have been a member of this site for about 6 months maybe, and I love it, I think over all some of the post are funny and I enjoy reading them even though they get off topic sometimes, but most off the post are helpful and give me buck, bull, shoot anything that walkes fever, I love the site and my wife hates it. I think things should stay how they are sure some people get offended but for the most part I think most of us enjoy everything and why make us miss out of what we come here for because of a few people.

Jake
 
Hey Brian,

I like e way it is set up. Yes sometimes we stray from the "topic", but I don't see it as a problem. Also, it does suck when people jump all over the new guy. I was once the new guy and responded to a post about Mike Eastman and noted personal experience, I got hammered right outta the gate, but over time I believe I paid my dues and have been excepted. Blue Oak got blasted for his pyrotechnics but has stuck around as well. I guess its a form of "weeding", and it is prevelent at other sports related sights as well. It just confirms the solidarity of the following, and the pride many take in its content. That being said, obviouslt there will always be a "rogue" element that feel brave behind the safety of thier keyboard, eventually they loose interest.

I can't comment on the public forum as I never go there....

Keep up the good work, thanks for a great site.

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Take er easy
five_point_buck *
 
Would I pay: Only if all the sites went to pay access.

I had another thought about bashing people. Would it be an accurate observation to say that some of the people who are responsible for bashing on this site are the same people who have come down on people over at realtree and badmouth that site for bashing them when they go over? They say the RT people are closed minded, etc..... Are some of those people guilty of bashing people on this website and being closeminded? I suspect so.

Personally, the only people I bash are ones that I know really well and they know I am kidding when I do it. I don't feel I acomplish anything by bashing a stanger. That is certainly not #13 in the book "How to win friends and INFLUENCE people".

If I am ever guilty of it, I hope someone calls me on it.

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
 
I haven't posted in a while but have still followed the board. I think the public forum has turned into a big pissing match and tend to stay away from it. Overall, this is a great site. As it is with any large group of people talking about the same thing, difference of opinions are expected. I have enjoyed the last two years I have followed the board and posted on it.
 
Brian,
I think you have a terrific site here and most of the folks who post are enjoying it; sure there are some posts that aren't really relevant to the mule deer topic and perhaps people could select a forum that more accurately suits their subject. But, this forum has a group of regulars and is the one where people come to "meet", much like a neighborhood pub. I didn't take offense to the "chicks" post, but then I worked on a flight-line for 15 years and I have a pretty thick skin! Most people who hunt probably do as well and realize that "political correctness" in this crowd is not the norm - that being said, it seems to me that most people are respectful of each other and different views, even when they don't agree. I would like to see mule deer posts stay closer to the topic simply because I love reading everything I can about the deer. I like to see subjects that make me a better hunter. Greetings to everyone and hello from the "chick" in New Mexico! LMH
 
David,

As a response to your question. My answer would have too be NO. Please revert back to your previous post. I think you hit the nail on the head w/ that one...

As "The", RT instigator! I don't feel that I bash anyone on this site! I've been known to make a smart @ss comment now and again. Whenever I do so choose to speak! It's never out of context! And nothing that I wouldn't say if I were standing with anybody on this board face to face! In other words. They generally have it coming...

I think the current lay out of this site is great. Having been a member, since I forgot when. I can say that I have gotten to know several of the members personally, as what I would consider friends. If it was not for this sight. I would have never met these individuals.

On a different note. If this sight was to change into more of a Baaah, baah, (sheep), type of hangout like our bretherand on the other well known and publicized place! I'd be the first to leave...
 
As someone who has been on the site since way back, I have learned alot about from the site and meet some great people. It's the best site on the net by far for hunting. I wouldn't be sad to see the Public Forum disappear, I do think that there is a tendancy here to jump on newcomers. All in all the site is great though.
 
Brian:

I believe that this is a great site. I really think the forums are great and believe that they should stay. I do know that some posts on the public forum are idiotic; but I can't believe anyone on hear would take them seriously.

Having said this, I would like a few more forums here. I would like to see an "Upland Game" forum and also a "fishing" forum. I do understand that many would not agree with this and also know that by not having them, it would still be the best hunting site around. Its just a suggestion and in my opinion, (which many times is wrong), would only benefit us.

Thanks,

Jason
 
We are talking about an internet message board here right? I mean its not as if we are talking about someone's wife who is dying of breast cancer or somebody's little kid who has a debilitating illness or some poor parents who just lost their teenager to a drunk driver car accident. I've got a job where I get to experience real problems and people's personal tragedies and let me tell you these "problems" here, aren't real problems.

I've watched people take personal attacks that were totally libelous in nature(i.e. the Raddon Brothers and Ryan Hatch) and the thread just rolls on and on. Then I've seen posts deleted because some whiny chick got their panties in a knot. Where is the sense there?

People have to keep in context just what in the hell this board is. ITS AN INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD!!!! No more, no less and if you(the figurative, not literal you) find yourself getting too upset at anything that is said here unless it is a personal attack on someone, then maybe you might be swimming in the shallow end of the pool. Try and develop some perspective in life and maybe get a life outside the internet.

By the way. If you've got 9 preference points for deer in Colorado and are absolutely clueless on where to put in having done no research in the 9 years you have been socking away points and you want to kill a 200 incher or nothing.............
I'll stop now. Wouldn't want mamma's little cupcake to get all upset.
 
OSOK: Thanks for setting me straight. As I said, I have only heard SOME of this end of it. Mostly a case of speaking about something I don't have enough info to speak about.

I would have to agree with Buckspy on someone with 9 points. Anyone who gets to that point and comes on with 1 post for some free advice gets what he/she deserves.

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
 
Brian,

This has always been my favorite site. I have talked and met some great guys on the site. I would consider getting rid of the public forum. A lot of guys with no spine like to vent their anger on that forum, and it gets out of control. Sure, some of the material is funny, but also some of it not fit for family members as it gets pretty lewd. Anyway, thanks for putting up with all of us and making this a great site!!
 
Reading all these posts reminds me of a time we had this big meeting at a job I used to have. Management was pissed, profits were low and they weren't meeting their production estimates. They were just $hitting on everyone, moral was low and everyone was bitchin' about the low pay, lack of raises, working too hard for too little pay, that kind of thing. My buddy was sitting silent almost through the entire $hitfest. Then, he finally spoke up. He said, "Well boys, I think your really missing what is important here. Right now, on some remote mountain, there is a big ol' muley buck with his nose up a doe's ass and he is ruttin' hard. He has my name on him. Now that's what's important." Of course, that comment didn't fly too well and it caught everyone off guard. He was layed off shortly after. LMAO!
This is a mule deer site. Let's get back to talking about Mule Deer. Buckspy is correct. There are a lot more important things in life than this. Family, friends, various different life issues and included in that TROPHY MULE DEER. Let's talk hunting. Get off your duff and go shed hunting. Post up some pics. Lets get this site back on track. Really, who the F**k cares bout Bigfoot, RealTree, Coues Dinks, Fake Bobcats, Whiteys and the such. We are all Muley Freaks so lets talk mule deer.
 
BCBOY

I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU FIRED UP LIKE THIS IN ABOUT A YEAR!!!

THAT CABIN FEVER MUST REALLY BE WORKING YOU OVER!!!

SOUNDS LIKE THE OLE BOY YOU MENTIONED AT THE JOB SITE HAD HIS PRIORITIES SET RIGHT!!!

NOW IF WE COULD HUNT MULEYS AND GET PAID FOR IT,THAT WOULD BE O.K.!!!

DO THEY HAVE A BOUNTY ON THEM CANADIAN BUCKS???

THE ONLY bobcat LMAO AT BCBOY'S POST!!!
 
This post is for 2_point. First of all I would like to say I have been a member of mm for years and do not post very often. But Im sick of hearing you down burly bucks. Its people like you that fuel the fire for the anti hunters. If you put in 1/100th of the time hunting that these guys making there videos you could probably change your user name. All the guys out there making videos spend thousands of hours out filming and looking for animals to film. I have ran into the guy that filmed burly bucks several times in the hills and he know mule deer better then anyone I know. I think his video is one of the best on the market. I cant wait till burly bulls comes out. Just remember next time you are sitting home typing in a negetive post they will be out filming having a good time.
 
Bobcat,
I guess maybe I'm sick of logging on to this site ever since the whole "30inchDecline" post and seeing nothing but bitching and moaning and very little substance when it comes to the Horn Porn this site is famous for. Hell, when a bunch of Muley Freaks are so bored that they have to go stir up the $hit with the Whitey hunters on other sites, you know things here are a little slow. LMAO!!! I'm tired of seeing BS posts about freakin' Bigfoot. My question is, who cares? This is Monster Muleys not monster Bigfoot. It seems there is a bunch of really bored guys out there that need to get off their a$$es and start talking hunting again. Maybe, I'm just an addict who's going through some withdrawls. I need some HORN PORN bad!!!
 
Dittos BC!

You know, I have read all of the responses and I think there are a lot of good ideas and can see that both sides of this disscussion have some very valid points.

However, the bottom line is that this website is owned and operated by Brian and whether he intended to or not, his post is really asking us for help. I think he does a great job and we should do everything we can to keep it successful for him, so he can keep doing it for us! Now, the more hits/members he can show to his advertizers, the better he is able to justify continuing and improving this site. I think if we all keep that in mind when we post, it will work out for everyone.

And NO, I am not saying we need to increase our membership by catering to political correctness or "can't we all just get along" mentality. This website is a group of hard core, serious, hunting is my life group of people and I think that is what it should be. We can strongly dissagree on issues, and we can give people a hard time within limits.

Yes, this is just a website forum board, but it is also Brian's "house" so to speak, and we should keep that in mind.

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
 
Also, I have waffled back and forth on the Pulblic forum issue between doing away from it and "if you don't like it, don't go there" points of view. I guess the question for Brian is whether or not the public forum is giving him a disproportiate amount of grief. If so, it should be canned.

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
 
This site is the BEST! I've been coming here for a long time even though I don't post much. If I feel strongly about something or want an opinion you'll hear from me. Otherwise, I prefer to listen. The Forums are great! I wish there were more Antelope discussions! The Photography Forum has helped me a lot. I wish there were a forum to talk about hunting products and services (guides/outfitters included) to be able to hear from hunters that have used these and whether they think they are good, bad or what-have-you. There is a lot of experience in these forums and the recommendations are usually very good. It saves time and money on things that have been tried and don't live up to their billing. Having a place to post photos of my son with his first two bucks of his hunting career is the best thing about your site. THANK YOU! All-in-all, I feel you are doing a great job. Run it the way you see fit. You are doing a great job now.
Sincerely,

Dave
 
Brian......man, it sounds like you're looking for a performance appraisal. I think good appraisals have to hold both good and "bad" (constructive) things. I'll try......

On the upside, this is a great forum and has brought a lot of smiles and rewards to me, personally. I've met a few great fellas on it who I've also met in person, and hunted and fished with a couple of em, and have plans set to hunt with a couple more of them. And I have only you and your forum to thank for creating those relationships and that joy in my life. I can't put into words how cool that is, and how lucky I was to find your forum and some of the fellas in it. Your forum can and has had some profound changes in many muley hunters plans, luck and rewards, lessons and purchases, no question.

On the other side, I also visit another forum, Jesses Hunting & Outdoors. That forum is structured differently, with a HUGE variety of topics to pick from. That forum has a little different personality due to a wider variety of hunter types (hogs, birds, deer, elk, lope, you name it) than MM, and moreso, least I believe, due to something that you should consider here.....Nobody is anonymous on that forum. You throw a rock and people know who's throwing it at them. My biggest suggestion for MM is to either dump the public forum or delete the ability for users to be anonymous "guests". A lot of guys hide behind the guest monicker and throw rocks, and that has no place here. No need for that at all.......no reason for people not to be registered, not to be responsible for what they say. My belief is that if you did away with the ability to be an anonymous "guest" that you would have way more constructive posts than the way MM is set up today.
 
Hey Guys,

Thanks for all the input. I'm just trying to get ideas on what to do before someone hunts my butt down to brawl. There are a few people out there who are really mad at me for what is said in these forums.

I'm thinking the public forum may soon be history. Another option is to get it back to where it is completely under control (FULLY Moderated), in which every post has to be Oked and posted by myself or a moderator.

I have no problem with you all having fun with each other, but when a videographer or guides name is brought up and he is ripped to shreds, I'm the one that takes the heat.

And of course, what needs to be cleaned up are the wise remarks some come up with when a guy asks a question. I don't care what the question is, not even "I have 9 points in Colorado, but don't know what to do."
Be nice, please.

Thanks everyone! Please, help me out by letting me know when something is posted that shouldn't be.

Brian Latturner
MonsterMuleys.com
 
I've met a few folks from here and hunted with a few and will probably hunt with a few more in the future since I started visiting this place in 2000. There are not very many places to do that for die-hard hunters.

The place does have a bit more of a roadhouse feel to it than back when I started visiting, but that's not too bad either.

The testoserone level seems to get a little out of hand here at times but that could be moderated away if moderators had stricker guidelines to follow and stuck to their guns with enforcing site policies. There's nothing wrong with deleting inflamatory postings.

And there's nothing wrong with a good pissing contest once in a while as long as everyone is standing behind the firing line.
 
Free, I think you may have hit the nail on the head.....To many non registered guests come on here just to stir the pot..I personally don't care because I usually don't read those posts. I do how ever really enjoy some of the discussions with the fellas....(and ladies). I would really miss this site if it were to go away.
 
brian,

dig the site ,i do not post much ,but love the horn porn,keep up the good work,all users should be registered,i was in meridian last month and wanted to look you up and shoot the &#@$,but was not sure if it would disturb you,my buddy lives in meridian,him and me hunt se idaho,and have harvested some nice bucks,

mario
 
Brian,

I thought I'd just add my 2 cents worth to this topic. I've read all of the posts and can see both sides of the fence . You have done an EXCELLENT job of providing a forum for us serious hunters to gather and discuss a variety of issues. I usually check this website several times a day to see what's new and have corresponded with several MM members over the years. Everyone who reads and/or posts messages to this forum are diverse and from different backgrounds all over North America. That's what makes it interesting and unique!

Several things come to mind when trying to monitor this forum which would alleviate alot of problems could be solved by folks having some decent manners and practice what their parents taught them when they were little buttons,

(1) Do onto others as they would do onto you.....

(2) Treat others as you would want to be treated....

(3) If you don't have anything good to say (or write), then keep your mouth shut!!!!


Again, thanks for providing an excellent website, forum, and campfire for all of us crusty hunters to gather and warm up!

Watch your top knot!!!

Songdog
 
Hard for new people to see how it works if they can't try it before they sign up.
Ignore the ignorants and continue on.
 

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