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I know this doesnt pertain to alot from out of state but just want answers from all hunters as it does affect all hunters...
I am asking you all a question and would like honest answers from you.
What is your major concern while out hunting? Do you as hunters look out for the welfare of a deer herd in general or a easy hunt? I will be printing this out to submit the answers to F&G. Alot of the archery hunters in my area here are trying to get info and feedback from all hunters to go to F&G about them opening up a Muzzleloader hunt into a unit that has not been anything but a archery unit for who knows how long. The herd here is not as big as F&G think and I am asking all on here for feedback on this. I spend alot of time out and about and have been from one end of the unit to the other. i do not see the numbers that have been told to me by some of the F&G officers here. They have counted the numbers in the spring when coming off the wintering range from what I have been told. So to justify opening a area for a hunt the deer do not know what the weapons will do, Is this fair to the game? They will stand out and look at you if driving by and they usually run out to about a 100 yds and stop and will look at you. Our herd will be slaughtered. Every archery hunter i have talked to wants to stop this hunt.
So again I ask a couple questions that are basically the same so would like your opinions on it.
Do you consider a ML hunt a fair chase scenario situation if the deer have never been hunted with anything other than archery?
I am not looking for a debate but just opinions on what I have stated as I said this will be printed out and submitted to Id F&G with other info I and others have collected.


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To be honest if the deer are as vulnerable as you say than I don't believe that even bowhunting is ethical, with today's complex compound bow's and greatly extended shooting range I believe that the archer's also have an unfair advantage. It sound's to me that you are as interested in keeping it bowhunting only as you are about protecting the herd. If you really wanted to be fair to the animal's than it should be non-compound bow's and flintlock weapon's only.
 
I'm interested to know what unit your talking about, as i am an idaho native and avid bowhunter. A muzz. hunt in certain areas would definately wipe out a large number of deer unless the number of tag's issued were controlled.

If you could fill me in on the unit your describing i would be able to comment further. Thanks.
 
Personally I think primitive weapons should be just that PRIMITIVE! Technology is out of control. Then you throw in scents and all of the calls of today. Its ridiculous.
 
I would have to agree with USA. I have seen my friends practice with their bows at 75 yards and are a great shot. Deer after a couple of days will wise up and I do not think you will have a slaughter on your hands. Mule Deer deserve more credit than just us thinking they are going to react the same on the archery hunt after they start hearing and getting shot at. Hope this helps.

NBJB
 
I think an area like that ought to be trad muzz only, and after just a few shots those deer will wise up big time and they wont be standing around watching guys.

I also believe it very important to keep some great quality archery hunts "archery only". And I yeah, there are plenty of guys that can shoot as accurately with a bow at 80 yards as a lot of guys can shoot their muzzleloader off a rest at 80 yards, and thats not a statement I pulled out my ass, I"ve seen it. SOme archers can shoot accurately well over 100 yards, more than I can say for many many muzz or gun hunters, with a rest!!

First and foremost, the deer herd should be healthy. Good buck to doe ratios and age structure, and of course, a good population for said habitat. If they are honestly using spring counts that include migratory deer (which I doubt they are, I have to give the bios more credit than that) then they are potentially screwing that spot up big time with establishing harvest quotas that have not significance to the resident herd.

All in all, I say keep it an archery area. I dont know how to address archery technology...Cant really be done, cause I know guys that shoot recurves and longbows to 70+ yards without breaking a sweat.
 
I'm not a resident so take this for what you will, if it's been a bow huntin zone for some time and the deer are still in the 1960's mode, then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that you'll harvest most of your mature bucks the first season, it'll take a long time before those bucks figure out that KABOOM means danger!...

Besides these new Muzzleloaders can shoot out to 200 yards with accuracy now...

Q: question to be asked is what about tag quota: will they raise the tag quota or will they (F&G) keep it the same...?...

Q: who's pushing this issue, Muzz hunters or just the F&G...?...

For those who shoot bows out to 80yrds, wind has a big factor in accuracy (for bows), not as much as muzzle loaders though...and it's not as though the Muzz hunters don't have enough area to hunt as things are right now...

Don't seem right nor fair...I say leave as it is!...heck if I knew of the area where the deer still act like their living in the 60's (Curious) I'd take up my bow again.....

Good luck with your endeavors......Manny'
 
Sorry guys I forgot to put it out there. They are wanting a traditional ML hunt which is not bad but it is a unlimited tag quota. This is what concerns us. I am serious it is not just that it is a archery unit but that I am concerned of our herd quality. The deer pop is not as high as they think. I believe the ML hunters are pushing it also. Not sure and dont want to cause waves over it. But like I said it concerns me for the deer. My 12 yr old son started me thinking as he has sat back and listens and has been out there with me and he is the one that asked why they would put that hunt in there if the deer are not really scared and the lack of deer in area's. He is a smart kid and I want some hunting for him. He is worried about deer as I am teaching him to appreciate them as well as hunting them.

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