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awesom" whats the story, I geuss it'll be in the next issue 'eh....I got all the luck I need and it's all tuff.....LOL.....
 
I saw that just last night on the B&C website. Congratulations to Guy, thats an amazing accomplishment. Guy is the type of person that know and appreciates big mule deer and I am glad that he had such a tremendous year.

Drum
 
I'm willing to bet both were taken on private land where the AVERAGE (most of us) guy won't ever get a chance to hunt. Jealous...YES!!, but I'd like to have the goldmine of money he gets to spend :). Congrats on two GREAT deer.

AntlerQuest Hunt Consulting
 
Second buck was from a big private ranch in SE WY regardless its a heckuvva buck. Don't know anything about the Kansas buck but you could assume its private as well.
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-30-04 AT 01:46PM (MST)[p]WTF ? You guys aren't on Guys Emailing list and Haven't see those already.... Old news!!!! :)

Congrats again Guy.

(Edited because I misunderstood the first post... OOPS)


  • [*] -Moosie
~~If you're going to walk on thin ice, Ya might as Well DANCE !!
WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
 
Nice bucks no doubt, would love to have them on my wall.

However, when you are hunting private ground and are the only hunting a particular area where no one else is hunting. The landowner watches the buck every day for you prior to your hunt I don't think it is too difficult to pull the trigger.

My opinion.

Todd
 
Big smile and great bucks! Yes..what a life...poor guy. (pun intended)

Chef
"I Love Animals...They're Delicious!"
 
I'm guessing I'm opening up a Can of Worms here,and only the guilty will find this post offensive.... But isn't the Same people Bitching about others hunting "Private Land", "Goveners tag", Etc the Same guys that put in for Super draws, and Accru points to draw in Coveted areas ?!?!

WTF is the difference ?

I personally don't know Guy well but I do know other guys that do Buy Land owner tags, And put in for Big draws. If they shot a big buck... Kudos to them !!! I know they hunt their AZZ off the rest of the year.

Grant it, some Fat rich Lazy hunters brag about a easy buck they hunted but not all do. Remember that when You guys Cry next time.


  • [*] -Moosie
~~If you're going to walk on thin ice, Ya might as Well DANCE !!
WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
 
>Second buck was from a big
>private ranch in SE WY
>regardless its a heckuvva buck.
>Don't know anything about the
>Kansas buck but you could
>assume its private as well.
>


well isn't the stamenet that Mike makes at the end of his show, "NO FENCE'S HERE"..?...PUBLIC LANDS....
 
Moosie...
.........tell us how you "really" feel...:)

Chef
"I Love Animals...They're Delicious!"
 
I would tell you guys how I feel but Browtine is a Friend of mine and I'd hate to have to have him Nuke what I really think :)

I just hate the "OHHH POOR me, I can't shoot anything because I'm not rich" .. "OOOHHH Look at him, He can shoot something big because He drew that tag".. "He must have Access because....OHHHH poor me, I can't this, I can't that...I have Sand in my Vagina" Sometimes I jsut want to say Shut the F*&* up !!!!!

Just a bunch of crap.

the first thing I thought when Guy Emailed it out was I bet it's going to get out and People start Talking chit. I see this crap happen every year and......

......I'll leave it at that, Because I'm known to hold in what I have to say :)

Deep breath and..... Happy hollidays folks !!!!


  • [*] -Moosie
~~If you're going to walk on thin ice, Ya might as Well DANCE !!
WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
 
Moosie--

Re read all the post to date, can't find anyone that is bitching? Most admit they are envious and that the deer are fine beyond measure.

Simply stated, and I would bet my bottom dollar on this one.
If you had the bucks you could kill bucks like this every year in more than one state. Private or public land, it wouldn't matter.

Todd
 
Blanding, You are correct to a point. Maybe it was the Demeener (SP?) I read some of the Posts. I misunderstood BuckSpys post so I edited it after re-reading it. I just got done reading the "Govn'er buck post" and a few Others and I hear that crap all the time so I probably Pre-maturely Vented. I have that problem in bed too, I'm just glad my wife is forgiving :)

I know DK and a few others that posted and they knew I meant them no harm. I know were they come from as well.

Posts like "Oh yea, all Great hunters hunt Mule deer in late Dec.$$$$$$$$$$ " and a few others.... WTF ? Jsut because Someone has money and Spends it on hunting doesn't mean they can't hunt.

Seems to fire me up.......

I know Guy has a bit of status here, (I'm guesing beter then a few other great hunters and Guides that get slammed sometimes ....... :)) so this wouldn't have gotten out of hand probably.

I seldom say this .... but this time it's probably "My BAD".


  • [*] -Moosie
~~If you're going to walk on thin ice, Ya might as Well DANCE !!
WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
 
Just because land is private doesn't mean the deer are dumb or don't get hunted. I do probably 90% of my deer hunting on private land, and I've managed one deer in the past 5 years and that was this year. Sure I could have shot deer probably every year, but I was looking for the right one. Some people just like to complain and wish they could do what others do. Just beacuse land is private doesn't mean its not fair chase.
 
Sweet Bucks!!!! Congrats Big Time To Guy!!!! It's nice to see him take a couple of HAWGS finally. May have to buy the latest video to see that Wyoming buck hit the ground.
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HaHa.........funny how all the old Eastmans hunting country in Wyo. 'K' got leased up by someothers and now Guy comes in and busts a big boy in that county....... so sad for those 'behind a gate' bigshot guides with sand in the nose over this great buck.

Texas Hold 'Em.............. read 'em and weap.......

Sweet bucks Guy Eastman........

DeerKing does it all on public ground with leg work and sweat, not a gate combo......
 
"Simply stated, and I would bet my bottom dollar on this one.
If you had the bucks you could kill bucks like this every year in more than one state. Private or public land, it wouldn't matter."

I doubt you could "buy" 2 record book non-typicals every year.

I also think that it should not matter where these deer came from, they are tremendous deer. I am not going to hop on my soapbox here but it does get old hearing the old "great deer BUT...." statement every time a big deer gets shot and pics posted.

Again, congrats Guy, great deer anywhere.

Drum
 
Man Moosie are you always looking for a fight??? You can't tell me that he doesn't have a better chance than the rest of us poor buggers, but thats life and good for him. I would have love to have the oppurtunities that he has had. Who here wouldn't? But congrats all the same. Nice Deer!
 
BCBOY, I think the video is a freebee w/ this year's re-subscription to EHJ. I look forward to seeing it!

I don't have a prob w/ the rich boys takin' a few big ones from private land, but there is nothing like some of the guys on this site taking 'em from public land (DK, BuckSpy, BullWhacker, BCBOY, etc.........)!!!!

Theodore Roosevelt once said, "The nation behaves well if it treats the natural resources as assets which it must turn over to the next generation, INCREASED and NOT IMPAIRED in value."
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BCBOY, I believe the video is a freebee w/ a re-subscription to EHJ this year (?). I'm definitely looking forward to seeing it.

I don't have a prob w/ the rich boys taking some big ones from private land... but there is nothing better that the MM regulars on this site consitently taking them from public land land hunts (DK, BuckSpy, BullWhacker, BCBOY, and others)!!!!


Theodore Roosevelt once said, "The nation behaves well if it treats the natural resources as assets which it must turn over to the next generation, INCREASED and NOT IMPAIRED in value."
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Sorry 'bout the dup! Either something strange going on w/ the site or my computer tonight!

Theodore Roosevelt once said, "The nation behaves well if it treats the natural resources as assets which it must turn over to the next generation, INCREASED and NOT IMPAIRED in value."
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eastmans motto should be: if you have enough money, no fences.

both bucks bought and paid for $$$$$$ chaa ching.

if i had the money i would do the same thing, so congrats.
 
Just to Set the tone of this post, please don't think I'm mad, yelling at the 'puter, or that I'm Looking for a Fight ... :)

"Man Moosie are you always looking for a fight???"

A fight takes 2 parties, And no, I'm not always looking for a Fight, But.... (hehe LOL to Huntsonoma on the "but" comment :) ) ..... But, It does get old so I said something.

Want me to Cut and Paste?

"Re read all the post to date, can't find anyone that is bitching? Most admit they are envious and that the deer are fine beyond measure."

....then lets see what he said in a Prior post just up above :

"Nice bucks no doubt, would love to have them on my wall.
However.. "

Ohh look, It's the "However" comment.

"The landowner watches the buck every day for you prior to your hunt I don't think it is too difficult to pull the trigger."

"Not too Difficult to pull the trigger." I'm guessing he meant that in a Nice way, I always say It's Easy, and it's not to hard, and What a Cheater, when I am really happy for someone...

And I truely apoligise for Mis reading the Intent if I did.

"Manny" made a Post making fun (And Again I could have read it wrong and Sorry if I did) "Implying" Mike makes a NO FENCE statement and then they hunt "Private" land.

"Man Moosie are you always looking for a fight???"

No, not looking for a Fight, But I'm not afraid to Call a Spade a Spade, or afraid to tell someone I think they are wrong. Just like I hope you don't hold back when You think I am.

But Like I said, I really Only the guilty will find this post offensive........

Best of luck to everyone


  • [*] -Moosie
~~If you're going to walk on thin ice, Ya might as Well DANCE !!
WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-30-04 AT 06:34PM (MST)[p]I don't blame the rich guys.
I blame myself for not being one of them!
Man, what a feeling to knock over a pair like those!
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Money buying those deer? Not hardly. Its PAYS off to good connections and have the most widely read and subscribed to trophy hunting magazine on the market. If those deer could be "bought" somebody with pockets deep enough to give God a loan would have done so already.

There's no doubt that Guy has connections that most of us don't but thats no reason to begrudge him. Atleast the deer weren't shot as they wallowed around in belly-deep snow on the winter range.

Big deer can be had by those with the drive, desire and ability to make it count when its "money time".

For those of your who dropped out of high school early to become Governor's tag deer guides, "money time" is just a euphamism for getting it done when the pressure is on.
 
You're very right on that Mike, however you are most definatley going to kill more AND bigger bucks with more money than without!
People have accused me of being a "rich guy" because of some of the hunts that I have been able to pull off....HAAAAA.
You just have to want it bad enough to be willing to make the necessary sacrafices!
Most people are just lazy.
 
"You just have to want it bad enough to be willing to make the necessary sacrafices!"

HH' well said!... to say the least, how bad do you want it!, enough to put most of your resource's into it...?.......
 
What a bunch of crap. Mike Eastman preaches fairchase public land then videos killing a huge $4000 buck on private land. If your going to pay the big bucks to kill the big bucks then say so, don't make it look like your some super hunter that kills big bucks on public land where everyone is competing for the same animals. Most of their hunts are guided or on private land.
Mike Eastmans "achilles heal" of hunting is spending big dollars to make impressive videos. Mike Eastman killed a huge bull in Colorado and it was on the cover with him holding it up. The fact of the matter is this bull would of cost me $9500 to kill. I know because I talked to the land owner. Guy eastman is one hell of an archer but his dad is just an average joe with a video camera.
 
It is somewhat Ironic that they push public land so much, but it's still one awsome buck and it's not a high fence area. Congrats to Guy on a couple of great bucks. My CEO once told me if I didn't think it was fair for him to make as much money as he does, that all I had to do was come and take his job from him. He's still rich, I'm still wishing..........who's fault is it?

Dub
 
Blah Bla Blah Bla Blah Blah Blah......

So the deer was shot on private land, the guy has money.... Who really cares? That is an accomplishment regardless. Everytime someone posts a big deer many of you great hunters have to break it down and question or critisize it.

THE ONLY BOBCAT WONDERING WHEN THE CRYBABIES WILL SAY: "Good Buck", "Congrats on a great deer", "Wish it was me"..........

-Bobcat
 
They take nice bucks off of the wyoming ranch every year, half the harvests on their videos come off of it, and the access is very limited. Nice bucks and congrats to Guy, it would be nice if he sent some of his luck my way.

MJ
 
Must have been killed the Eastman's way fair chase, no fences and public ground. I don't think so but this still doesn't mean these arent great bucks and this is why I visit this site, to see bucks like this not to listen to a bunch of cry babies p&m every time someone kills a good buck. He must have poached it shot it in Dec. in 4 feet of snow etc. I just like to look at all of the bucks on here, and it sure would be a lot better without all the jealous a.h's on here.
 
Way to go Guy Eastman! Two B&C non-typicals in one season.....definately what dreams are made of for this ol' bowhunter. Congratulations.

BOHNTR )))---------->
 
Congrats to Guy on two huge bucks. I believe he earned these bucks. It's not like he just fell into money. He's had money all along so why didn't he buy a couple booners before this year. Give the guy a break. He hunts hard and deserved what he got. He'll definetly have a hard time beating this year.

Later,
IB
 
I swear if this Posts get's more replies then my "LONGEST POST" thread I'm going to be PISSED ;)

Happy new years and quit being so Bitter of those that are Richer then you (Thanx you), better looking then you (Thanx you again) have better looking wives then your One toothed hillbilly wife and those of us that make something of ourselves .. BUuuahahaha !!!

Lighten up guys, SERIOUSLY !!! Take the Day off and go outside for the day....

~Moosie
~Man Moosie, are you always looking for a fight???
 
If you been here long enough you know I don't candy coat anything. First I don't have a problem with Guy paying for these deer, at least I know thats what he did with the Kansas deer. YES, absolutely money had everything to do with it. Money allowed him to make connections. Money brought the family fame. Money is what makes their business work. Without money there is no way he'd have the connections, networking, ties or resources to hunt the place. A "regular" rich guy probably wouldn't have the connections to even know about that place. Secondly there are a handful of really big deer on the place and they are fairly well known about in the area. The ranch sees very, very little hunting pressure. Thats not to say the deer arent wild, they are but they are somewhat acclimated to people. To put it nicely he was the paid sniper of this well known deer... and money put him there. How do I know...My wifes family is from the adjoining ranch...word gets around :) The problem I have with the Eastmans is the try to sell you in believing they hunt public land. Well they do but its not very often. Most times like mentioned by someone earlier, money has got them on private ranches, behind closed gates. I say quit trying to make people think you are hunting wide open public lands, you are not. You are not competing against the 1000s of other hunters where deer run scared. The Kansas deer has no pressure at all. The whole area is fenced and well posted. I won't call it a canned hunt but to say he worked for the deer would be an overstatement. He was guided...aaaa led to the deer and it was shot. No special skills, knowledge or triathelete training went into the hunt. If he and his family feel good about what they do than so be it, just don't pass it off as a public land hunt... a hunt where there was actaully competition. Would I shoot the deer, in a heartbeat, I think I could live with myself. Jealous, no, I'm at a point in my life I'm beyond that. "No Fences".... what they mean is "No Texas Style HIGH Fences". Change your slogan.
 
FARM DEER not open to public!!! let me go get my feed pan!!!!! They raise $ watch those deer!!!! This is not public hunting!!!!! they should not let vandals like that in Boone Crockett or Pope young. This is not fair Chase????
 
Just a twist of Guy's story...I can give you instances of guys shooting mega-monster critters on public land that really put a kink in my underwear! These are the guys that don't do a day of scouting prior to their hunt; an outfitter that has 10 guides searching the entire unit (or sometimes state) leads them up to a giant buck, bull, ram, or whatever, and the "client" (notice I didn't say hunter) shoots him? Again, money paid for the license and guides that lead him to the critter....but they were shot on public land!

I myself get more upset over hearing about these kind of hunts than someone that pays to hunt private land and hunts his buttocks off and harvests a monster animal.

One thing that should be noted about Guy's accomplishment that hasn't been brought up is how many double-B&C nontypical muledeer in one year have ever been shot? This is pretty remarkable even though he paid and hunted private property. There are a lot of guys out there that have paid to hunt exclusive private land in the past but has this ever been done?

Another thing that hasn't been brought up is that the landowner that manages these ranches must be doing a heck of a good job and should be patted on the back! How many places in the US have potential for producing B&C bucks but the right genetics, age structure, feed, water, etc that can produce bucks like that are improperly managed? Somebody is obviously doing something right on their ranch if they can produce B&C caliber animals! Hopefully some of the critters wander off these properties where the "average Joe" can hunt them!!!
 
THE WYO BUCK WAS TAKEN ON PUBLIC GROUND. HOWEVER, THE PUBLIC GROUND IT WAS TAKEN ON IS LANDLOCKED BY 100% PRIVATE PROPERTY

REMEMBER YOU CAN $HIT THE TOURIST BUT THERE IS NO $HITTING SKUNK $HIT
 
Happy New Year to the pudhumpers who can't be happy for a relatively young guy(GUY EASTMAN) who got lucky and made it count. A guy who's magazine preaches fair chase and honest hunting ethics, HAMMERS POACHERS, and spotlights many do-it-yourselfer's on public land, a guy who has ZERO wildlife or hunting violations between himself and his father and probably wont either. While he may make more money than some of the budding Gov tag deer guides on this site, he couldn't come close to being in the same tax bracket as the SCI boys. Either way who cares. Obviously someone got it right when they saw the "no fences here" as being "no high fences that keep animals from free ranging". I was starting to think it was one big
moron-a-thon around here.

I hope to kill a buck like one of those at some point in my life and its that desire that gives me my drive and makes me hunter harder,longer, and deeper.(couldn't resist that one, MOOSIE)

Two of the hardest hunting guys I know, one here in Colorado B.M., and David Long out of Wyoming finally killed their super bucks this past two years and all that work over many years payed off for them. I think its cool that Guy took both those bucks and didn't have to pay $100,000 in tag and guide fees and did it all legally. I'm happy for him and get a kick out of the dweebs that want to sucker punch him anonymously on the internet.
Go to Powell, Wyoming and say it to his face.
 
I can't believe how JEALOUSY always brings out the DRAGS of the hunting world. It's pretty pathetic ain't it? Funny how MM is notorious for producing such idiotic responses. There is a reason why many won't share their pics here. It is because of the MORONS that sit in their easychairs making mass judgements from behind the computer screen. Those same MORONS will never kill a big buck so they sit and tear down those who actually LIVE LIFE! It doesn't matter how ethically a buck was taken, they will find fault with it. Anyone who has followed the Eastman family knows they know Monster Muleys. Guy comes from a family heritage of muley fanatics. It's AWESOME to see that passion being passed down. I remember watching in awe the old Gordon Eastman films as a kid. His passion for the outdoors was passed on to his children at a early age and now onto his grandchildren. I commend the entire Family for a job well done. They have promoted hunting with the utmost degree of ethics and continue to do so.
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Well put Buck Spy. By the way what was that word that you used in an earlier post? Euphosimismismism?
 
Two awesome bucks ! You can bet your ass if I had the money I would be right along side him.
 
I hate all those rich snobs!

P.S. If anyone knows of a high fence hunt with 190+ mule deer, for under $1000, please send me a PM.:)

Steve
 
Everyone is jealous of anyone that can take trophies such as these no matter how they do it someone will always talk them down.
If you cannot come up with the money then find other ways to reach your dreams. Be confident in yourself and your own abilities and most of all let yourself be the judge of your accomplisments.
If it means you hunt public land and work hard and come up with a "trophy" in your eyes and others call it a dink just let it go.
I measure a man by his honesty more than by the size of a deer rack.
Everyone is guilty of letting others get to them including myself but in the end "you" are the ultimate judge of yourself.
Best,
Jerry
 
You people are pathetic. You pick and choose who is worthy of notoriaty and put down those who you feel is scum. The fact of the matter is Eastman Journal and USO are no different. They both are in the business of making money off of you poor saps. George Taulman and Mike Eastman could care less of what you think of them personally. They are in the business of making money and providing a service to the hunting public. But you stupid people can't stand USO for reason's the normal person can't comprehend. Maybe your New Years resolution should be judge everyone on merit and not what your buddy thinks.
 
Hey GrandpaNasty do you ever make it out to your wife's family's ranch? I live 30 miles from there in Ness County. When I saw this thread I called up a guy I knew who had been watching that deer. He said "yep, I thought I counted 19 points on him." He told me he almost ran over him one night.
 
I cant let this one go without my one cents worth...

All of us have to do what we can to find a good place to hunt, know the basics of whatever we are hunting, have to put in our time in the field at the very least during the hunt, and make it count when it comes trigger time. Obviously Guy knows how to do this and got it done. Congrats to him for that. However a season like this very likely (again, we dont know the whole story) has something to do with the fact that he has some serious influence and connections most of us dont remotely have to pull off a season like this. Especially assuming neither of these places are his home stomping grounds (Unless you consider the state of Wyoming to be your stomping ground, and many people looking to do a favor for him by letting him in on their findings). Am I jealous, not really. Am I in awe, not hardly. Yes, he was "lucky", but lucky like the kind of sheer odds of an average competent hunter off the street pulling it off on a general tag on accessible public land? Not hardly. Not even an apples to oranges comparison... more like Yugos to Mercedes.

When you have the cards heavily stacked in your favor by hunting places and deer the general hunting public will never see, yeah, its still an special and rare accomplishment, but also I'm putting a mental asterisk by it... and if you dont like that... well I could care less. Why do you think people put in for limited hunts on areas they've never seen before? Why do you think people pay several thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars for certain limited opportunity hunts on strictly controlled lightly hunted land?!? Again, to stack the deck in their favor for an exeptional trophy!!! If you think otherwise, you are full-on tripping out delusional and need counseling. Unless whats been said is complete hogwash on where and how they were taken, this gets an asterisk until I hear differently.

Again, just my .01... and yes I'd say it to his or anyone elses face. Facts are facts. Wether or not that would get my #@$ kicked, it doesent make it ANY less true.
 
RE: Gosh damn rich M/F ers

gosh damn rich guys that get all the stuff, when I'm I gona get my stuff ? Just ain't fair nobody there givin me no stuff, sum-beach's must of forgot bout me & my needs for stuff, dun thunk all mans made equil like.... F&A then where's my egwill amount of stuff.




Yes Moosie takes 2 to fight that's why I always oblige you. Loved the sand in the Vag. comment.
Also Buckspy WTF is a pudhumper ?
& BC what's your hang-up against moronic responses anyways ?
Read in another post how all the good guys have left this site, so what else can you expect ?
 

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