I have been looking for a deer rifle for my son. I was looking for a good old 30-06 and came across a very nice 1967 Winchester model 70 in a 300 Mag. in your opinion would the 300 Mag be to big for deer? I was thinking of giving my Winchester model 670A in 30-06 to my son and me using the 300Mag. Would be used mostly for mule deer and maybe elk a few times. Thanks for the comments Dave
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LAST EDITED ON May-11-05 AT 04:16PM (MST)[p]The 300mag is a very good elk/mule deer cartridge.
Along with the 7mm mag and the 270win, hold out until you have priced a few rifles out. Ever since the introduction of the short mag craze, these "originals" and the rifles they are chambered in are no longer the hot commodity they once were.
That being said, there are now some smoking deals to be had in these "long" mags. Particularly the 300mag. since I believe the 300WSM is the most popular of the short mags.
My two cents.
Purchased a synthetic stocked/stainless Browning A-bolt in 7mm rem mag with a Leupold VXIII (brushed stainless 3.5-10x50) with a Browning sling all for $800 OTD at a gun show about a month ago. The barrel was lucky to have seen 200 rounds through it at the time of purchase.
*want to add, that scope alone will run you $550 minimum without rings.
Chef
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Along with the 7mm mag and the 270win, hold out until you have priced a few rifles out. Ever since the introduction of the short mag craze, these "originals" and the rifles they are chambered in are no longer the hot commodity they once were.
That being said, there are now some smoking deals to be had in these "long" mags. Particularly the 300mag. since I believe the 300WSM is the most popular of the short mags.
My two cents.
Purchased a synthetic stocked/stainless Browning A-bolt in 7mm rem mag with a Leupold VXIII (brushed stainless 3.5-10x50) with a Browning sling all for $800 OTD at a gun show about a month ago. The barrel was lucky to have seen 200 rounds through it at the time of purchase.
*want to add, that scope alone will run you $550 minimum without rings.
Chef
"I Love Animals...They're Delicious!"
Foreman4x4
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IMHO, the .300 Mag is the perfect one gun caliber for North America. Having said that, I'm not real sure I'd buy a '67 Model 70 unless it's a screamin' deal. There's no collector value and you can probably find a more recent rifle for similar money.
If you get a .300 mag, stuff it full of 165gr rounds for deer and never look back.
If you get a .300 mag, stuff it full of 165gr rounds for deer and never look back.
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I agree with foreman4x4. Depending on the age of your son and his structure will really help you pick the right deer cartridge. I like the 270 win using the hornady light magnum rounds. They are awesome for long range shooting and have a lot of juice that make them nearly a magnum with lots of energy. The recoil isn't as great as the good ol 300win but does just as good on deer and elk using the proper loads. If you decide to use the 300win, just like chef has stated load it with 165 and maybe a muzzlebrake to help the recoil. I have a lot of guns that I have for my family and I load up all kinds of rounds for different calibers. I also love the nato 7.62 aka 308 win they are good rounds when using the proper loads or ammunition. I will point out again if you do not reload try the light magnum rounds by Hornady. (SST-super shock tip) they are truely incredible. I used them last year in the Kaibab for one of my family members junior hunt and knocked down a deer 243 yards away. The deer dropped instantly with our 270 win.
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Hunt,
I agree with the guys who've already replied, and would add a couple things to it. They're absolutely right about getting steals on some of the good old mags right now. In fact, at a Wal-Mart down here in the Austin area, they're selling Win. Model 70 synthetic 300 win mags for under $300. And I want to say they were 250.00. Brand new. These are not the Super Shadows that come in the wsm calibers (which I've also heard a lot of good things about).
Black Knight also mentioned the hornady light magnum loads. Their interbonds are basically the same thing as the new nosler accubonds and the swift scirroccos, which are the best of both worlds when it comes to bullets. They have the polymer tips that make them fly fast and flat and initiate expansion quickly, but the core is also bonded to the jacket, so they retain a lot more weight and penetrate better than the ballistic tips.
I believe Hornady also loads a 150 grain interbond for the 300 win mag.
Good luck with your search. There are a lot of good deals to be had out there.
WH
I agree with the guys who've already replied, and would add a couple things to it. They're absolutely right about getting steals on some of the good old mags right now. In fact, at a Wal-Mart down here in the Austin area, they're selling Win. Model 70 synthetic 300 win mags for under $300. And I want to say they were 250.00. Brand new. These are not the Super Shadows that come in the wsm calibers (which I've also heard a lot of good things about).
Black Knight also mentioned the hornady light magnum loads. Their interbonds are basically the same thing as the new nosler accubonds and the swift scirroccos, which are the best of both worlds when it comes to bullets. They have the polymer tips that make them fly fast and flat and initiate expansion quickly, but the core is also bonded to the jacket, so they retain a lot more weight and penetrate better than the ballistic tips.
I believe Hornady also loads a 150 grain interbond for the 300 win mag.
Good luck with your search. There are a lot of good deals to be had out there.
WH
