Would Any One Care to Comment About the TC Shock Wave M.L. Sabots?

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I never tried this brand of bullets and would appreciate it if someone who has would care to make a comment about them. Good? Bad? The skinny about Shock Wave sabot bullets in a Muzzle loader rifle in fifty caliber.
 
I have shot them and they are ok. They did not seem to expand much so I moved on to Barnes MZ Expanders long ago.
 
Tracker, I ordered today a 24 pack of the Barnes TEZ sabot M.L. bullets from Midway, USA. Are you familiar with the TEZ made by Barnes?
 
The TC Shockwave is the same as the Hornady SST. They expand just fine at ML velocities. When shot from smokeless they act like varmint bullets but they shoot just fine with 100-150 gr loads. I shot my 5x5 bull with these bullets in 300 gr weight and 120 gr by volume of BH209. I can also get 1.5 MOA groups at 300 yards with the 300 gr Shockwave/SST and a Harvester black sabot. Kills critters just fine.
 
The last couple muzzleloader bucks I've killed were with the 250 gr. shockwaves and they did just fine. One was shot at 60 yards and the other at 150 .
 
Precision rifle dead center!

Best Muzzleloader bullet I have ever shot.

Very accurate and expand beautifully.

I shoot 240 grain out of my .45 and .50 and they are really deadly loads.
 
Don't go with them, they don't expand on game. The Barnes tmz are the way to go. I harvested a bull at 290 yards and he only went 15 yards. They shoot accurate and expand well.
 
I shot them in my Knight Wolverine, then switched to the Hornady XTP when I couldn't find the TC's any more. Same bullet as best I can tell. I shoot 100 grains of powder with a 300 grain bullet. Very, very accurate. Touching holes at 50 and 100 yards - same for the TC and XTP.

I've had very good luck with them on East TN whitetails. The heaviest deer was around 140 pounds. Although very accurate, I will agree with what others have said, I've recovered a couple of bullets and they weren't expanded as much as I thought they would or should be. Only about the first quarter of the bullet was peeled back.

With that said, I continue to use them. The accuracy and dead deer keep me coming back to them. But if you think about it, it starts as a 0.45" hole, it doesn't take much expansion to make a 0.6+ hole. A .270 expanding to twice it's size is just over half an inch.

Good luck and post pics!
 
I shoot them with my TC Omega and they are very accurate. I moved to a thinner sabot to make loading them a bit easier. I have been using 130 gr. of 777 with the 250 gr bullet.

I've killed two large bull elk with them. The don't expand as nicely as one might like but it is more important to me to feel confident that I can place the bullet right where I want it.

As another poster mentioned the hole starts at .45 inches so it still creates a very nice wound channel even with little expansion. I've not had a pass through with these so all of the energy has done its job.

There are a lot of nice ML bullets out there but I'm inclined to stay with what is working for me.
 

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