Surrendering A Permit

OchocoKid · Feb 23, 2019

If I'm reading the Hunt'in Fool and the UT regs right you can surrender a LE permit up to 30 days prior to the hunt and get your bonus points reinstated, one for this year and your money back.

This doesn't seem like it is correct, there would be no downside for higher point holders not to draw a tag then turn it back if they change their mind. not even out the tag fee ?

is this right ?

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deerkiller · Feb 23, 2019

Yes this is correct.

OchocoKid · Feb 23, 2019

wow. so some guy with pile of points could draw Beaver every year and turn it back until he scouts the bull he wants .

This makes it even tougher on those of us just out of reach of the tag we want. Utah has to be the only state you can do this in.

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mickeyelk · Feb 23, 2019

I thought you lost your tag fee?

buckhorn · Feb 23, 2019

SHUSH!!!!!!

arns · Feb 23, 2019

It's a lot better than Wyoming.Drew a migratory deer tag after 6 years 3 months before for the hunt They sent me a letter and said are deer numbers are down you're hunt will start a month early.Hunted my azz for 9 days seen about 30 deer and 3 buck, ate tag soup. I would of loved to turn that tag back but not in Wyoming. They screwed me bad.

Deerlove · Feb 23, 2019

Mickey so do I??

littlebighorn · Feb 23, 2019

As long as you turn the tag into the UDWR sooner than 30 before the hunt, your tag fee is retained.
There are always good reasons to turn back tags: a lost job, a conflicting hunt in another state, wildfires in the area, etc. But I think returning a tag closer than 30 days before the hunt should be eliminated, regardless of the tag fee issue. I'm sure a good percentage of late returned tags in Utah don't get used because they are offered too late for people to accept them.
I also think returned LE tags from top point holders should be offered to next in line top point holders, rather than going out randomly. (very slightly helping point creep?)

elkassassin · Feb 23, 2019

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Thanks Manny!

I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!

elkassassin · Feb 23, 2019

So dude!

Last Year We had a Drought!

You Don't Think there was any Permits Turned Back in?

I'll Place Money there was more LE Elk Tags turned back in Last year than any other Year!

Yes,You will Forfeit your Money unless you have a Dr's Note!

And a CROWN Hang-Over Ain't gonna Pass as being Sick!

I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!

OchocoKid · Feb 23, 2019

Bobcat you need to stop talking and do some reading. either these guys are wrong or you're wrong.

I don't know them but I know you. I'm going to say you're wrong.

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elkassassin · Feb 23, 2019

Turn the Tag Back with 30 Days or more time Left before the Hunt Starts & Get Your Money back!

Turn the Tag Back with less than 30 Days left before the Hunt starts & You'll Need a Dr.'s Note to get your money back!

Where am I Wrong?

I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!

elkassassin · Feb 23, 2019

One more thing dude!

With somebody like yourself that's made Millions,Maybe Billions,why would you be worried about a few hundred Dollars?

Draw the F'N Tag & Go Huntin!

I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!

OchocoKid · Feb 23, 2019

Glad to see you corrected yourself.

The point was not about the money I don't have enough points to do much damage if I wanted to . the point is a few high point holders could draw all the point tags every year and turn them back at no cost . essentially locking up the high point draws for years if their guides don't find what they want close to the road. I have no idea how big of problem this is but obviously its going to happen to some degree.

I didn't expect you to get it.

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ElmerFudd · Feb 23, 2019

If the next in line or someone close at the same points takes it, the point pool is still getting knocked down.

Muleman1 · Feb 23, 2019

Good hell don't start giving people ideas
What has happened to hunting some times it makes me sick what people come up with take the dang tag be thankful and go hunt if you draw.

elkassassin · Feb 24, 2019

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>a few high point holders
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>tags every year and turn
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>up the high point draws
>for years if their guides
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>close to the road.
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>big of problem this is
>but obviously its going to
>happen to some degree.
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Got it Long before now dude!

About 4-5 Years ago they Claimed most of the LE Elk Max Points Holders would be knocked out!

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Here We are!

Still Quite a few with Max!

Playin the Game to Their Advantage!

But Like littleBig said above if You Noticed?

These Guys Playin everything to their Advantage Turn their Tags Back & then them Tags are offered to Points Holders that are usually not sitting on Max Points!

One More Reason Max Point Holders are not Disappearing as Quick as they should!

Not only do I get it!

I've got it for several years!

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I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!

hornkiller · Feb 24, 2019

My wife drew bebo late elk last year. when the fire hit I called d.w.r./$.f.w. and she would have got her points back but
The $800 for the tag would have been lost is straight up what they told me!

OchocoKid · Feb 24, 2019

Was it less than 30 days from opening day ?

Maybe it's not a big problem I don't know. but I know a guy who's done it twice that's why I asked. I see no reason for him not to keep doing it now it makes sense.

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elkassassin · Feb 24, 2019

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Happens all the Time Dude!

"WORKING THE SYSTEM"

You've Heard of that,Right?

I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!

roadrunner · Feb 24, 2019

Since when did hunting become a guaranteed kill?

You draw a tag, you go. I get it about turning in a tag with things like a legitimate illness, accident, or death in a family. But to turn it in because you don't find the one you want or deserve while scouting?

Talk about entitlement...

hornkiller · Feb 24, 2019

40 days before the hunt!

6x7 · Feb 26, 2019

My brother turned in a bookcliff archery elk tag a few years ago he had also drawn a Nevada archery tag and he had just started a new job so he had to pick one,Nevada keeps the tag fee no matter when you turn it back so Nevada it was.

Smacked · Feb 27, 2019

Know a Doctor?
Get a note..get refund, a point and all points back ..plus hunt a week surrender tag.. it's all good.

arns · Feb 27, 2019

Same thing on the Nine Mile Buffalo.Hunt all season if you didn't kill a buffalo you get your points back, not sure on their money

theox · Feb 27, 2019

yo get money or points back not both unless its an emergency then you may get both but highly doubtful

Smacked · Feb 27, 2019

LAST EDITED ON Feb-27-19 AT 08:09PM (MST)[p]It's TRUE and hunted a week..not seeing anything worth pulling trigger on..
Got points plus a point and refund..
Lol know the system brother..
Smacked.
Any replys through PM pls.

elkassassin · Feb 27, 2019

>LAST EDITED ON Feb-27-19
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What was you Huntin SMACKDADDY?

I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!