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LAST EDITED ON Sep-30-04 AT 07:35PM (MST)[p]http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4d711b3127cceb7f3210d13c40000001610
Left to right Dustins bull , Mikes Bull, My Dads bull.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4d711b3127cceb7f321f113380000001610 Thumbs up for monstermuleys.com
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4d711b3127cceb7f321fd13340000001610
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Left to right Dustins bull , Mikes Bull, My Dads bull.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4d711b3127cceb7f321f113380000001610 Thumbs up for monstermuleys.com
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4d711b3127cceb7f321fd13340000001610
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csutton7
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nice bulls for sure...chris
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bobcattrapper
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I thought you were gone.
Also that same picture is on Knight and Hale.
I can see you are back to your old tricks.
Nice try though!
Also that same picture is on Knight and Hale.
I can see you are back to your old tricks.
Nice try though!
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huntsonora
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Cass,
Awesome looking bulls. Thanks for the pics.
Drum
Awesome looking bulls. Thanks for the pics.
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hornaddiction
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Nice bulls! Thanks for sharing!
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dakotakid
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>I thought you were gone.
>Also that same picture is on
>Knight and Hale.
>I can see you are back
>to your old tricks.
>Nice try though!
Bobcattrapper,
Can you substantiate these accusations? If so give us the link to the photos, it wouldnt be the first time Cass has pulled this, but if hes innocent then the burden of proof lays upon you.
Mike
>Also that same picture is on
>Knight and Hale.
>I can see you are back
>to your old tricks.
>Nice try though!
Bobcattrapper,
Can you substantiate these accusations? If so give us the link to the photos, it wouldnt be the first time Cass has pulled this, but if hes innocent then the burden of proof lays upon you.
Mike
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FAIRCHASEBEN
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Nice bulls , but I don't get the thumbs-up thing , isn't that kind of a childish self-glorification gesture ?
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dakotakid
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No, its a rule to enter the photos in the "big buck/bull contest" here at MM.
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csutton7
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go read the Cass's video thread to the end and you'll see these bulls aren't the wild majestic beasts most of us hunt--hand fed pets basically!!!--had me fooled-should've known better--chris
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archerelk
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According to your other post all 3 bulls should have gone over 370. That 1st bull has no mass, and no width. I wouldn't give it more then 300. Was someone using the metric system when they measured?
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Smiley
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Nice bulls thanks for sharing .
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Oats
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Great bulls, where did they come from?
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Came from a game farm.
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They didn't come from a game farm....
It's a ranch, If you look it's probably good they did it.
The motherwell guides both in and outside the fence and the average bull they take outside the fence is 340 which is a monster bull by colorado standards. Even my buddy guy who guides on the Crooked wash Ranch told me a monster bull in colorado is a 350.
Only difference between the Motherwell and normal hunting is that you don't have to deal with a buncha hunters.
If you look at how big the ranch is bruin or you have ever been there you would know, it's too steep, thick to even be concidered a game farm bud. Theres way too much country for the bulls to live in and to get your facts straight about the deer. The owner when he first set up the ranch called and called and called the F/G to have them come out and get the deer, but they didn't come forever and finally made a trip with a bunch of people. Instead of pushing the deer over the fence they just pushed em to the fence and slaughtered them all.
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It's a ranch, If you look it's probably good they did it.
The motherwell guides both in and outside the fence and the average bull they take outside the fence is 340 which is a monster bull by colorado standards. Even my buddy guy who guides on the Crooked wash Ranch told me a monster bull in colorado is a 350.
Only difference between the Motherwell and normal hunting is that you don't have to deal with a buncha hunters.
If you look at how big the ranch is bruin or you have ever been there you would know, it's too steep, thick to even be concidered a game farm bud. Theres way too much country for the bulls to live in and to get your facts straight about the deer. The owner when he first set up the ranch called and called and called the F/G to have them come out and get the deer, but they didn't come forever and finally made a trip with a bunch of people. Instead of pushing the deer over the fence they just pushed em to the fence and slaughtered them all.
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LAST EDITED ON Oct-01-04 AT 02:35PM (MST)[p]Cass, those are some dandy bull for sure. The Motherwell Ranch used to be Wyman's if I'm not mistaken. Elk ranch, game farm, pen raised, whatever, those are still big bulls.
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LAST EDITED ON Oct-01-04 AT 03:58PM (MST)[p]here's a link--
http://westernstatesoutdoors.com/html/mother_hunt.html
guess they changed the dates for the elk hunt as it says Oct and Cass's dad and bud's shot their's in Sept---
there's other links about CWD on this ranch--
http://www.steamboatpilot.com/section/frontpage_lead/storypr/22261
http://www.rense.com/general53/chron.htm
it sure looks like 12,000 acres fenced off and within that 2,000 acres fenced again and I'll bet you the bigger elk are saved for the 2,000 acres and smaller ones are released into the 12,000 acres--
Cass--you need to be a little more specific when you post this kind of stuff and a little link to the ranch would save you some grief--the way you posted it looks like your dad and bud's went on a real guided hunt and when you're exposed all 'ell breaks loose--think just a little more and you'll be ahead of the game in the long run---but maybe you like this sort of attn, cuz you keep setting yourself up time and time again--
I'll say it again the elk are nice, but are tainted due to the place they were hunted--chris
http://westernstatesoutdoors.com/html/mother_hunt.html
guess they changed the dates for the elk hunt as it says Oct and Cass's dad and bud's shot their's in Sept---
there's other links about CWD on this ranch--
http://www.steamboatpilot.com/section/frontpage_lead/storypr/22261
http://www.rense.com/general53/chron.htm
it sure looks like 12,000 acres fenced off and within that 2,000 acres fenced again and I'll bet you the bigger elk are saved for the 2,000 acres and smaller ones are released into the 12,000 acres--
Cass--you need to be a little more specific when you post this kind of stuff and a little link to the ranch would save you some grief--the way you posted it looks like your dad and bud's went on a real guided hunt and when you're exposed all 'ell breaks loose--think just a little more and you'll be ahead of the game in the long run---but maybe you like this sort of attn, cuz you keep setting yourself up time and time again--
I'll say it again the elk are nice, but are tainted due to the place they were hunted--chris
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Wonder if those same people will attend the White Pine Co slaughter tomorrow (10-2) I think at the Steptoe Valley Game Management area for elk? That was originally the 3-C ranch you want to see hunter ethics at work just pull up a chair and watch the festivities on hiway 6 that's if you don't want to get shot, Those cows have been with the heard bull for a month down there and are scared of no one and every yr for the last 6 yrs they have butchered them like shooting fish in a barrel, they tried to justify a good hunt by taking down some old fences but the elk fence is still up that once protected the feilds, think i'll get up at dawn and pull up a chair and see how many bullets come whizzin over my house this yr, the old town of Ely is a buzzin with hunters should be quite an event, gut shot elk, legs blown off and all that good huntin stuff, I watched one jackass last yr blast this cow then he didn't have a clue what to do, NDOW come up on him and give him a lesson in butchering 101, how nice of them! Most of those hunters, using the term lightly Cass come from Vegas (with their brand new wally world rifles and a box of shells and their Rambo knife) isn't that where you are from not that it matters!
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Cass,
Those are some great bulls. I don't know where or how they were killed, but some nice bulls.
In your other thread I spoke of a handicapped dude. He never has opened up about the farm thing. I wish he would tell the whole story, but that is up to him. I wouldn't know any better, but they are shot with a rifle in August.
My best buddy runs a "ranch" in Colorado. I think the term ranch and farm are two seperate issues. His ranch is 13,0000 acres, they do wildlife enhancement projects, belong to the RFW program, and the elk are free roaming elk. Did these bulls come from one of these outfits? I know my buddy runs a top notch outfit for free roaming elk on private ground. Spendy though.
At any rate, thanks for putting up the pictures.
Those are some great bulls. I don't know where or how they were killed, but some nice bulls.
In your other thread I spoke of a handicapped dude. He never has opened up about the farm thing. I wish he would tell the whole story, but that is up to him. I wouldn't know any better, but they are shot with a rifle in August.
My best buddy runs a "ranch" in Colorado. I think the term ranch and farm are two seperate issues. His ranch is 13,0000 acres, they do wildlife enhancement projects, belong to the RFW program, and the elk are free roaming elk. Did these bulls come from one of these outfits? I know my buddy runs a top notch outfit for free roaming elk on private ground. Spendy though.
At any rate, thanks for putting up the pictures.
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These elk are free to roam as they please, there is nothing different from the outside than the inside. They feel more protected inside so they stay on the private ground because they only see 4-6 hunters a year. The elk are free to roam as they please, breed as they please. They have meadows, big peaks, deep canyons, thick timber, water everywhere. The only difference between the ranch and the outside world is the way the elk are managed, They want top notch Monster elk and they have achieved it by managing the herd well. Only allowing a certain amount of hunters on the park and they do not allow any bulls before 340 to be shot. Managing the bulls as well as the cows.
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Cass--I'm not sure you're right or wrong on the free roaming part--but I think you may be wrong based on the fact that the guy wanted 400k to pay for a fence and I have to think that it doesn't cost 400k to put a fence around 2000 acres--of course that's dependent on the type of fence--but we're talking poles and wire here--to me it seems the whole place is fenced and the free roaming you talk about is on the 10,000 acres--still makes it a fenced operation---plus the amount of animals on the place don't add up--in the wild there's never that many wild bulls that score over 340 on 10,000 acres unless they're kept there--they will roam off and most likely stay away-but for a few---I've hunted on an 86,000 acre ranch in Montana that has no fences and there's only 5 or 6 bulls a year taken over 340 and there's only 26 hunters allowed a year---this ranch is almost 9 times the size of MotherWell and takes less big bulls--things aren't adding up on the free roaming part on the MotherWell place in my opinion--but if your dad says there's no fences or feed bins on the 12,000 acres then one has nothing to say but congrats--- -chris
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Did you guys have them tested for CWD? The motherwell was depopulated several years ago as well as a number of animals "outside" the fence. Positives were found on both sides. To each his own.
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LAST EDITED ON Oct-04-04 AT 12:08PM (MST)[p]The Motherwell link doesn't absolutely say it, but seems pretty clear that only the 2000 acre "preserve" is game fenced. It is totally believable that a private 10,000 acre ranch that gets little hunting pressure compared to the surrounding public land could produce bulls like this. Assuming that the bulls were killed on the 10,000 acre, low fenced part of the ranch, congratualtions on the bulls and being able to afford a hunt like that!
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venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
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archerelk
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The entire ranch is high fenced, the population is segregated into the 2000 acre portion.
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FAIRCHASEBEN
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Impersonating hunters by shooting pen-raised pets , typical Las Vegas slob hunters . We have to put up with them every year up in Elko co.
They used to hunt on dirt-bikes , not quads , real freaking dirt-bikes , chasing deer down the canyons to the slobs waiting below with their new wally-world rifles (never been fired) and decked out in full Cabelas whitetail attire .
Now they all hunt on quads with no regard for anything or anyone . The whole area is one big off-road park to them , any place they can ride a quad into , they will .
Never hiding the fact that they party hunt , we've seen ten of them out hunting just after telling us they only had two tags left to fill .
Cass , I'm sure there are some ethical hunters from Las Vegas , I've just never met any of them . Posting pictures from a canned hunt doesn't help your reputations any .
They used to hunt on dirt-bikes , not quads , real freaking dirt-bikes , chasing deer down the canyons to the slobs waiting below with their new wally-world rifles (never been fired) and decked out in full Cabelas whitetail attire .
Now they all hunt on quads with no regard for anything or anyone . The whole area is one big off-road park to them , any place they can ride a quad into , they will .
Never hiding the fact that they party hunt , we've seen ten of them out hunting just after telling us they only had two tags left to fill .
Cass , I'm sure there are some ethical hunters from Las Vegas , I've just never met any of them . Posting pictures from a canned hunt doesn't help your reputations any .
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The entire property is fenced into smaller enclosures like someone else mentioned. There are no free ranging elk on the property. call it what you will but its a canned hunt, they know every bull on the property. Not for me personaly but for some people its OK. If done within the law not much we can do.
