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And I believe his juvenile records should have been used to prevent the purchase.
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I will try Nancy.Lighten up Francis
Why do you even care, you’ve cried all over this forum that there is nothing anybody can do about anything that happens. You’ve yet to offer anything substantial to the conversation at hand.Funny...you want to see whining go read your own posts.
Most of the "mass shootings" are in the inner city and are most likely gang related, so...I think we can all agree that it's the person that pulls the trigger.
I have a question that I don't know the answer of and maybe somebody here does...
How many of these mass shooters obtained their weapon illegally?
It seems I keep hearing the guns were legally acquired and/or the shooter wasn't otherwise prohibited from possessing the firearms. Is that correct?
Yes sir I see your points. Not sure anything ever listed him as crazy and not eligible to possess a firearm though. As far as Law Enforcement failures, they can only enforce the Laws that are on the books, the Police don’t make the laws. Men were under fire, some got shot, seems they pinned the coward down to just one room, imagine if he could have roamed the hallways at will going from room to room what the body count might have been. Seems like wisdom and courage were on full display from those Officers that day.The background check was supposed to keep crazies from buying guns. Of course we all know it’s a dumb process.
And I believe his juvenile records should have been used to prevent the purchase.
We can argue all day about whether these are political failures or law enforcement failures. Many people look at this process as law enforcement.
I don’t know how I would have responded. I like to think with wisdom and courage.
Really? 2018 & 2019 were the two deadliest years for mass shootings in America. I didn't see anybody call those Trump's shootings.I’m taking a page out of the lefts book. This chaos happened on bidens watch, he has had 49 years to formulate a plan to prevent or even minimize mass murder and he’s done absolutely nothing! Why? Taste good doesn’t it, I’m only dishing out what the left does to the right every time, you know, never let a crisis go to waste. Pathetic isn’t it.
What tactics do you have serious issues with?
If you want to claim a moral equivalency to inner city gang warfare, go ahead.Most of the "mass shootings" are in the inner city and are most likely gang related, so...
What's going to change?Why do you even care, you’ve cried all over this forum that there is nothing anybody can do about anything that happens. You’ve yet to offer anything substantial to the conversation at hand.
Again, it was for another poster, and I was referring to Operation Fast and Furious. My post is accurate.Really? 2108 & 2019 were the two deadliest years for mass shootings in America. I didn't see anybody call those Trump's shootings.
With that said, he is the only president in decades to federal implement gun control. But he gets a pass on that for some reason.
Good question to ask those who you voted into office.But we've sent $60 billion to Ukraine? Makes one wonder what that would do to harden schools
Grizzly's post is accurate as well. Might want to read it again.Again, it was for another poster, and I was referring to Operation Fast and Furious. My post is accurate.
Not sure what kind of gun control you are talking about, I buy a minimum of 5 guns a year, mostly blue label and AR-15 types. I’ve been able to buy everything I’ve wanted to buy and my background investigation goes through within minutes, maybe because I’m a frequent flyer…
I do also but the FBI lists them all the same under Mass Shootings so they can get the left all worked up in an effort to apply more gun control.If you want to claim a moral equivalency to inner city gang warfare, go ahead.
I, however, draw a difference in mutual combat of declared gang members and slaughtering six year olds with dad outside being restrained by police.
I’m good thank you.Grizzly's post is accurate as well. Might want to read it again.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. It appears you're implying this wasn't some lunatic with a gun, but that secretly some "forces" are organizing the murdering of children as part of a plot to pass gun control. Am I understanding you correctly?I don’t believe at all any more these are random acts. Theirs forces in this country that have agendas and don’t mind breaking a few eggs to see them happen. Call me a right wing conspiracy nut job all you want
oh boy. ok, every one get your tin foil hats on and buckle up. JPicket is about to lose all credibility. but since i genuinely do not care what anyone on here thinks of me ill let it fly. should get my reaction score up in the top ten anywayOk JP, please expound on your thoughts here. I'm not being a critic and I am interested in your feeling about this.
Well over 200 shootings in Chicago already this year..... crickets about it on news.I do also but the FBI lists them all the same under Mass Shootings so they can get the left all worked up in an effort to apply more gun control.
Nobody wants to talk about inner city gun violence, people don’t want to be labeled a racist by radicals hell bent on destroying everything they don’t agree with.
It starts at about the 3:00 mark...shoots grandmother (over phone use) (then sends message to girl in Germany indicating his plans) wreck in ditch, cops encounter him, enters near teacher parking lot, enters one room...
If it doesn't make the news, how do you know there's been well over 200 shootings in Chicago?Well over 200 shootings in Chicago already this year..... crickets about it on news.
That’s too much for the boomers to wrap their heads around. It’s much easier to cry about Biden or trump.oh boy. ok, every one get your tin foil hats on and buckle up. JPicket is about to lose all credibility. but since i genuinely do not care what anyone on here thinks of me ill let it fly. should get my reaction score up in the top ten anyway
i believe we are in a time period that if history ever has the opportunity to be honest again will be referred to as "american fascism" and the root of having successful fascism in place is total control. an armed society can not be totally controlled. these shootings and there escalation is too convenient for the political aspirations of the day and frankly the last 50 years. the fascists are done waiting and there is such a thing as the deep state.
there is anther post on here talking about what medications this guy and other shooters were on. the CIA has been doing drug/mind control testing since the CIA has been a thing and i trust them as far as i can throw the pentagon. need to take guns, theirs definitely a level of collateral damage that's acceptable. 20 kids? whatever, more then that will die today from fentanyl overdoses were making sure has a clear run way across our border to come in.
don't think the US government is ok with killing kids? you haven't been paying attention to our foreign policy since WWII have you?
take a look at the history of fascism. i wouldn't put anything past them.
maybe i should delete this...nah, im sure im already on the list for re education any way. come take them MFrs!!!
Wow...just when you think you've heard it all.oh boy. ok, every one get your tin foil hats on and buckle up. JPicket is about to lose all credibility. but since i genuinely do not care what anyone on here thinks of me ill let it fly. should get my reaction score up in the top ten anyway
i believe we are in a time period that if history ever has the opportunity to be honest again will be referred to as "american fascism" and the root of having successful fascism in place is total control. an armed society can not be totally controlled. these shootings and there escalation is too convenient for the political aspirations of the day and frankly the last 50 years. the fascists are done waiting and there is such a thing as the deep state.
there is anther post on here talking about what medications this guy and other shooters were on. the CIA has been doing drug/mind control testing since the CIA has been a thing and i trust them as far as i can throw the pentagon. need to take guns, theirs definitely a level of collateral damage that's acceptable. 20 kids? whatever, more then that will die today from fentanyl overdoses were making sure has a clear run way across our border to come in.
don't think the US government is ok with killing kids? you haven't been paying attention to our foreign policy since WWII have you?
take a look at the history of fascism. i wouldn't put anything past them.
maybe i should delete this...nah, im sure im already on the list for re education any way. come take them MFrs!!!
ill admit its a mirror image to your beliefs about Trump. guess we can be the pot and the kettleCom'on now do we need to bring Q anon into serious matters. that should be reserved for your goof ball circle jerks this is real.
You know damn good and well what I meant, don’t split hairs to support your personal view.If it doesn't make the news, how do you know there's been well over 200 shootings in Chicago?
That's exactly what's going on.oh boy. ok, every one get your tin foil hats on and buckle up. JPicket is about to lose all credibility. but since i genuinely do not care what anyone on here thinks of me ill let it fly. should get my reaction score up in the top ten anyway
i believe we are in a time period that if history ever has the opportunity to be honest again will be referred to as "american fascism" and the root of having successful fascism in place is total control. an armed society can not be totally controlled. these shootings and there escalation is too convenient for the political aspirations of the day and frankly the last 50 years. the fascists are done waiting and there is such a thing as the deep state.
there is anther post on here talking about what medications this guy and other shooters were on. the CIA has been doing drug/mind control testing since the CIA has been a thing and i trust them as far as i can throw the pentagon. need to take guns, theirs definitely a level of collateral damage that's acceptable. 20 kids? whatever, more then that will die today from fentanyl overdoses were making sure has a clear run way across our border to come in.
don't think the US government is ok with killing kids? you haven't been paying attention to our foreign policy since WWII have you?
take a look at the history of fascism. i wouldn't put anything past them.
maybe i should delete this...nah, im sure im already on the list for re education any way. come take them MFrs!!!
? it’s nobody’s job to be killed in the line of duty. It happens far to often though defending the rights and privileges of goofballs….Com'on now Pickett do we need to bring Q anon into serious matters. that should be reserved for your goof ball circle jerks this is real.
It's looking like the cops were afraid to engage him as he entered the school. a guy with an AR in body armor against a couple cops with Glocks. pretty easy to see why they hesitated, they were dead meat. but it was their job.
It’s not in the main stream media, he knows that. It doesn’t fit the lefts agenda. You have to really want the news to get the truth. He’s been conditioned to believe everything msnbc and cnn puts out. He’s never had an original thought of his own.You know damn good and well what I meant, don’t split hairs to support your personal view.
do you really mean to tell me you never called Bush Jr a baby killer? i bet you did. the TV told you to, so you didCom'on now Pickett do we need to bring Q anon into serious matters. that should be reserved for your goof ball circle jerks this is real.
Relax, your credibility was gone a long time ago.oh boy. ok, every one get your tin foil hats on and buckle up. JPicket is about to lose all credibility. but since i genuinely do not care what anyone on here thinks of me ill let it fly. should get my reaction score up in the top ten anyway
i believe we are in a time period that if history ever has the opportunity to be honest again will be referred to as "american fascism" and the root of having successful fascism in place is total control. an armed society can not be totally controlled. these shootings and there escalation is too convenient for the political aspirations of the day and frankly the last 50 years. the fascists are done waiting and there is such a thing as the deep state.
there is anther post on here talking about what medications this guy and other shooters were on. the CIA has been doing drug/mind control testing since the CIA has been a thing and i trust them as far as i can throw the pentagon. need to take guns, theirs definitely a level of collateral damage that's acceptable. 20 kids? whatever, more then that will die today from fentanyl overdoses were making sure has a clear run way across our border to come in.
don't think the US government is ok with killing kids? you haven't been paying attention to our foreign policy since WWII have you?
take a look at the history of fascism. i wouldn't put anything past them.
maybe i should delete this...nah, im sure im already on the list for re education any way. come take them MFrs!!!
Reports and videos are showing cops waited 40 mins upon arriving on school grounds before they entered....Are you saying this school shooting in Texas was a Law Enforcement failure?
yeah i knew it was low riskRelax, your credibility was gone a long time ago.
So it took a coward with an AR-15 and extra magazines 40 minutes to kill 21 people in a single class room? I wonder why he didn’t go unmolested to other classrooms and continue his evil rampage. Was he pinned down by gunfire? He did barricade himself in that one class room reports state. Reports also state that Police couldn’t get through a secured classroom door after many attempts, they had to get a key from a teacher. We’ve heard of chicken cops being shot during this incident, who would think a chicken cop would be anywhere near somebody shooting at him. How many lives were saved by chickens pinning the coward down, returning gun fire and then killing him? I’m sure all civilian reports are 100% accurate 24 hours after the shooting and as far as video goes, well we know every angle of every moment is filmed by somebody so I’m sure the video starts from the second it all started until the minute it all ended. No doubt it’s crystal clear video also. So many questions. If only it was as easy as deer hunting, throw up your rifle, set that buck in the cross hairs, control your breathing, trigger control, squeeze, boom and dead, but it isn’t…..Reports and videos are showing cops waited 40 mins upon arriving on school grounds before they entered....
How many lives were lost in those 40 mins?
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they are NOT out to get you…yeah i knew it was low risk
you guys probably wont believe me but i was paranoid waaaaay before it was cool. when the whole Q thing came around i was like "finally i'm not alone!!!"
exactlyJust because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they are NOT out to get you…
So…..when I get a call from my high schooler that there is a nut on campus shooting up the school….and I rush down there loaded to the gills to save her…..how do I keep from causing even more chaos and keep the cops from filling me full of holes….??
So you’re ok with them waiting 40 mins to enter the school? Ok.So it took a coward with an AR-15 and extra magazines 40 minutes to kill 21 people in a single class room? I wonder why he didn’t go unmolested to other classrooms and continue his evil rampage. Was he pinned down by gunfire? He did barricade himself in that one class room reports state. Reports also state that Police couldn’t get through a secured classroom door after many attempts, they had to get a key from a teacher. We’ve heard of chicken cops being shot during this incident, who would think a chicken cop would be anywhere near somebody shooting at him. How many lives were saved by chickens pinning the coward down, returning gun fire and then killing him? I’m sure all civilian reports are 100% accurate 24 hours after the shooting and as far as video goes, well we know every angle of every moment is filmed by somebody so I’m sure the video starts from the second it all started until the minute it all ended. No doubt it’s crystal clear video also. So many questions. If only it was as easy as deer hunting, throw up your rifle, set that buck in the cross hairs, control your breathing, trigger control, squeeze, boom and dead, but it isn’t…..
You are 100% a conspiracy nut job! You probably think Sandy Hook was staged as well. You are as sick as the real shooters and should get help. People like you who spread these outlandish conspiracies is the reason this country has so much hate and divide. Stop listening to the likes of Alex Jones and learn how to logically think for yourself and to research on your own and verify facts from unbiased multiple sources in life.I don’t believe at all any more these are random acts. Theirs forces in this country that have agendas and don’t mind breaking a few eggs to see them happen. Call me a right wing conspiracy nut job all you want
I read these were proven fake. The actual person in pic is alive.
OK, you're a right wing conspiracy nut job.I don’t believe at all any more these are random acts. Theirs forces in this country that have agendas and don’t mind breaking a few eggs to see them happen. Call me a right wing conspiracy nut job all you want
That’s the first account I’ve seen of any cops being shot.
Clearly very dumb to post.... bad job by me!I read these were proven fake. The actual person in pic is alive.
No worries, there is too much fake stuff out there and its tough to tell sometimes. Its bad on the original person who put that on the net in order to try to deceive people. You are just trying put info onto a forum quickly where a topical discussion is taking place.Clearly very dumb to post.... bad job by me!
So, this kid did everything legal right up until he started shooting people. and most of the people here say nothing could have been done about it so get over it.
So it begs the question , is this what the founders meant by " well regulated militia " ? unless the answer is yes then you owe the nation a detailed explanation of how you're going to regulate it. because clearly you've failed so far .
Do tell.
Good question to ask those who you voted into office.
Only so long as they are banned for law enforcement as well.
If I don't need one, neither do they.
The answer is you getting rid of your guns first. So lead by example...His grandmother wasn't a person ?
The point you're trying to cover up is this kid had no record, no known mental issues and he followed the law right up until he started shooting. so other than not equip him what's the answer ?
Dang! Bet Roadrunner can kick your arse!What a dumb a@% comment....but not surprising. You sounds like a child. Some people just have no damn sense.
I never understood this. I mean like they don't go in until it's "safe" to go in. WTF?So you’re ok with them waiting 40 mins to enter the school? Ok.
Do you know how many Officers were shot when they initially entered the school. Have you ever been shot and advanced on the shooter? Have you ever been shot and retreated to cover or concealment to treat your wound, wounds before you bled out? How do dead Officers help anybody? Let me know how you respond to being shot and then we can revisit all of your questions.So you’re ok with them waiting 40 mins to enter the school? Ok.
Well said grizzly! It's great to hear facts from a rational and logical person to discuss issues instead of just political talking points and false rhetoric like many do here.If you'd like to compare the numbers of lives saved by the 20 cases you referenced from the FBI in the last eight years with the literally hundreds and hundreds of deaths where there wasn't a "good guy with a gun" I'm happy to have that discussion.
You're picking a literal statistical anomaly and trying to use it as evidence that simply isn't supported by the facts. It's strange because you don't even dispute the facts. You're the one who cited 20 cases and you have to know there are literally hundreds of cases where there WASN'T a good guy with a gun.
I believe you to be a good and honest person, but the data simply doesn't support the argument you appear to be making. I feel you're looking for data to support your conclusion rather than looking at the data and then reaching a conclusion.
i think i kinda lead with that so...OK, you're a right wing conspiracy nut job.
The NRA filed for bankruptcy last year I believe. They spent $650,000 on lobbying this year.The Right will not budge on laws, background checks, restrictions, etc… There are more guns than people in the US and the Left will Never get guns out of the hands of criminals. There are not enough mental health specialists in the US to “help” everyone who has these deep embedded mental health issues.
Both sides will continue to argue and more deaths will occur and we will be numb to all this as time goes on. Meanwhile families of victims will continue to be crushed and heartbroken. To some its not an issue unless it affects them or their loved ones I guess.
There needs to be SERIOUS discussion on both sides of the isle as a unified group – good luck with this happening. Some ideas have been posed to have teachers trained and carry – this will work for some schools/teachers, but will not all teachers/staff will be on board with that responsibility. Why not hire more security and even install metal detectors at entrances to schools (hasn’t this been done in some LA schools for years..
I know this sounds overkill but Dam this is getting out of control! I will use Cancer as an analogy – there is No “proven” current cure for cancer so the best defense is early detection. Well consider a school with properly trained security at each entrance along with metal detectors etc… “early detection”. It seems early detection should fall in the hands of the mental health diagnosis but this is unrealistic due to the shortage of mental health professionals and the time it takes for the process.
If you ask how do we pay for all the properly trained security personnel, metal detectors, etc ate every school… Hmm, maybe the NRA can pitch in - don't they make a decent amount of $$? Otherwise taxes will have to be raised to pay for the additional security personnel, metal detectors, etc..
again, this is fully my position. armed guards in every school no matter what the cost!If you ask how do we pay for all the properly trained security personnel, metal detectors, etc ate every school… Hmm, maybe the NRA can pitch in - don't they make a decent amount of $$? Otherwise taxes will have to be raised to pay for the additional security personnel, metal detectors, etc..
the Jews gots um space lasers now!!!Com'on Rambo let's hear it. and Pickett can't answer I don't need to hear anymore about Jewish space lasers.
He entered an unlocked door at the parking lot teachers use.Gunman entered Texas school unobstructed and started shooting, officials say
The gunman who killed 19 children and two teachers at a Texas elementary school entered the building unobstructed, authorities said Thursday.www.yahoo.com
What a dumb a@% comment....but not surprising. You sounds like a child. Some people just have no damn sense.
I’ll never take the bait from you……you’re way to smart to be truffled with.That was the point. Taking a certain "gun" away from everyone that is responsible makes as much sense as removing them form LE. I was waiting for someone to take the bait - it just wasn't who I was hoping it to be.
I "sounds" like a child?...
You asked about how many firearms are obtained legally, that are used in mass shootings. Most mass shootings occur in the inner cities.If you want to claim a moral equivalency to inner city gang warfare, go ahead.
I, however, draw a difference in mutual combat of declared gang members and slaughtering six year olds with dad outside being restrained by police.
It's unlikely that he would have done it at all? The whole premise of your post is a jokeEven if a certain gun is involved in 90% of these things ? nothing to see here just move along right ?
How do you think all this would have played out if this kid had only a lever, bolt or falling block rifle to chose from at the candy store ? it's unlikely he would have got the Rambo rush and done it at all, but if he did how many less bodies would there be ? less for sure, but we're not supposed to consider that either are we.
You got nothing except " I WANT " that's all.
Put a little thought into your rants. I'm saying if the cops hadn'tHe won't even comment on what he's willing to cough up on his own, he's been asked 5 times now.The answer is you getting rid of your guns first. So lead by example...
You really think some puke playing Rambo with an AR and body armor is no more likely to commit mass murder than some puke would be playing Quigley with a Sharps ? if that's true why are your man cards almost always used ? the whole premise of your argument is a joke.
Lets say he did use a Sharps, Model 94 or a Ruger 77. same body count ? lie to me.
Even if a certain gun is involved in 90% of these things ? nothing to see here just move along right ?
How do you think all this would have played out if this kid had only a lever, bolt or falling block rifle to chose from at the candy store ? it's unlikely he would have got the Rambo rush and done it at all, but if he did how many less bodies would there be ? less for sure, but we're not supposed to consider that either are we.
You got nothing except " I WANT " that's all.
You're the one who said he had a 40 minute head start. I could kill 20 deer in 40 minutes with Ruger 77.Lets say he did use a Sharps, Model 94 or a Ruger 77. same body count ? lie to me.
Just heard some NYC dude say" there is no legitimate sporting use for an AR-15."
Reports are saying the officers broke protocol by not entering. Keep your emotions out of it. The cops screwed up, society screwed up.Do you know how many Officers were shot when they initially entered the school. Have you ever been shot and advanced on the shooter? Have you ever been shot and retreated to cover or concealment to treat your wound, wounds before you bled out? How do dead Officers help anybody? Let me know how you respond to being shot and then we can revisit all of your questions.
The Agent who killed the evil coward was shot in the head, it went through his cap and grazed him. I suppose you think he’s a chicken also?
That’s a good looking setup!
So…..when I get a call from my high schooler that there is a nut on campus shooting up the school….and I rush down there loaded to the gills to save her…..how do I keep from causing even more chaos and keep the cops from filling me full of holes….??
Just heard some NYC dude say" there is no legitimate sporting use for an AR-15."
You should know better.
I hear ya Slam and I do agree with ya. In fact, I couldn't agree more. Cowards they are for sure and usually cowards don't go into a fight they know they can't win. Majority of cowards only go after people they know don't stand a chance, and then-there is just pure evil. I saw your post about what our country defends with guns-So, why not try in schools, churches, malls and etc? Once again-I do agree!@joevegas
Then explain why these shootings take place in schools, churches, malls?
Who are YOU trying to chit?
They are cowards and attack children for Christ's sake.....wtfu!!!
Reports are saying the officers broke protocol by not entering. Keep your emotions out of it. The cops screwed up, society screwed up.
You can paint the officers as heroes all you want I don’t care. But the mistakes made that day by law enforcement will be used in future training.
Giving a teacher a gun is like taking you hunting. It would be a chit show, the lack of experience would cause more problems than solutions.And Since You & Others Don't Want Teachers Packin Heat I'm Sure They Felt Perty Helpless Waiting For Law Enforcement To Do Something Quick!
JUDAS!
F'N!
PRIEST!
Yep....some people hate guns until they need one!And Since You & Others Don't Want Teachers Packin Heat I'm Sure They Felt Perty Helpless Waiting For Law Enforcement To Do Something Quick!
JUDAS!
F'N!
PRIEST!
A lot of atheists start praying when they're in a fox hole taking mortar fire.Yep....some people hate guns until they need one!
please elaborate how being against arming teachers means someone hates guns?Yep....some people hate guns until they need one!
?. I didn’t know you served time in a fox hole. Thanks for your service.A lot of atheists start praying when they're in a fox hole taking mortar fire.
Been in alot of scary holes and not one has made me cry out for anyone in the sky or the easter bunny.A lot of atheists start praying when they're in a fox hole taking mortar fire.