Gonna miss the hunting here but........

URGENT---PLEASE HELP!⏰⏰⏰ HB7 GENDER AFFIRMING AND REPRODUCTIVE CARE was PASSED 6-3 IN THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE YESTERDAY, in a party-line vote. ???This Bill is now scheduled for full Senate vote TOMORROW (Monday March 6). PLEASE GO HERE TO EMAIL/CALL ALL SENATORS in opposition of this Bill. ??? https://oneclickpolitics.global.ssl.fastly.net/messages/edit?promo_id=19303



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This Bill STRIPS MUNICIPALITIES AND PARENTS OF THEIR RIGHTS regarding restricting access to abortion and gender transitioning services. For example, a school nurse could fined $5000+ if she were seen as “interfering” with access to abortion or gender transitioning services if she were to call a parent regarding the student’s request to obtain these services; thus, bypassing parent involvement and/or awareness.



You can WATCH the full ~2-hour Senate Judiciary Committee testimony here, beginning at 11:32am??? : https://sg001-harmony.sliq.net/00293/Harmony/en/PowerBrowser/PowerBrowserV2/20230304/-1/72172



THANK YOU to Senator Greg Baca, Senator Cliff Pirtle, Senator Mark Moores, Senator David Gallegos, Larry Sonntag, Elisa Martinez and others for standing up for the rights of parents, teachers, healthcare providers, and children.
 
URGENT---PLEASE HELP!⏰⏰⏰ HB7 GENDER AFFIRMING AND REPRODUCTIVE CARE was PASSED 6-3 IN THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE YESTERDAY, in a party-line vote. ???This Bill is now scheduled for full Senate vote TOMORROW (Monday March 6). PLEASE GO HERE TO EMAIL/CALL ALL SENATORS in opposition of this Bill. ??? https://oneclickpolitics.global.ssl.fastly.net/messages/edit?promo_id=19303



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This Bill STRIPS MUNICIPALITIES AND PARENTS OF THEIR RIGHTS regarding restricting access to abortion and gender transitioning services. For example, a school nurse could fined $5000+ if she were seen as “interfering” with access to abortion or gender transitioning services if she were to call a parent regarding the student’s request to obtain these services; thus, bypassing parent involvement and/or awareness.



You can WATCH the full ~2-hour Senate Judiciary Committee testimony here, beginning at 11:32am??? : https://sg001-harmony.sliq.net/00293/Harmony/en/PowerBrowser/PowerBrowserV2/20230304/-1/72172



THANK YOU to Senator Greg Baca, Senator Cliff Pirtle, Senator Mark Moores, Senator David Gallegos, Larry Sonntag, Elisa Martinez and others for standing up for the rights of parents, teachers, healthcare providers, and children.
This is urgent?!? I’m willing to pay the fines of any and all school nurses that are fined $5000 for “interfering” with access to abortion or gender transition services by ratting them out to parents. Did that fix it or are you still scared of imaginary boogey men that might see your dick in unisex bathrooms?!?
 
This is urgent?!? I’m willing to pay the fines of any and all school nurses that are fined $5000 for “interfering” with access to abortion or gender transition services by ratting them out to parents. Did that fix it or are you still scared of imaginary boogey men that might see your dick in unisex bathrooms?!?

That's not what this bill is about.
 
This is urgent?!? I’m willing to pay the fines of any and all school nurses that are fined $5000 for “interfering” with access to abortion or gender transition services by ratting them out to parents. Did that fix it or are you still scared of imaginary boogey men that might see your dick in unisex bathrooms?!?
I don’t know who you are dude or wtf your problem is? Don’t come at me acting like the B I TCH you obviously are!
I simply copied a post and re-posted it here for people to see the type of BS is in legislation right now. Roadrunner is right, the is alarming to say the the least . This should NEVER even be considered by the legislature and you’re acting like it’s no big deal?
?? off and scroll on by next time!
 
Dang it Blue, I love Wyoming- and you crossed the line with that one. You leave me with NO choice:

Your mother is a hamster, and your father smells of elderberries! I spit in your general direction! Now quit posting or I'll taunt you some more!
I just figgered if WY was outlawing EV’s, he prolly wouldn’t need the plug. Constitutional crisis averted! :cool:
 
If you have children in school you should seriously think about them ! New Mexico is at the bottom of the education list, bottom of the health care list. When I had a truck stolen in ABQ the police didn’t even come out to investigate it. I saw a news show on tv about a year and a half ago where a liberal Cruces politician was telling some reporter that there was no problem on the southern border. That’s like telling the officer, no sir, I haven’t been drinking, then blow a 3.0
Left in Feb 2022, as we were planning on starting a family. Had a son in December. No looking back. I went to Iowa, as I grew up here with family. I tried to go to Florida, as I enjoyed Pensacola and Jacksonville a lot while I was in the service.
 
So...you're tellin' everyone the author has made everything up and falsly acccused an elected "official" of fraud, conspiracy to commut fraud, election tampering, and perjury?

Please state your source to the contrary.
Just ignore his dumb ass brother! Liberal trolls at work.
Estancia is one of the few places in NM that did their own audits and canvassing, with true by Pardison help from the county and community!
The source is solid!
 
Just ignore his dumb ass brother! Liberal trolls at work.
Estancia is one of the few places in NM that did their own audits and canvassing, with true by Pardison help from the county and community!
The source is solid!

I'd like to hear his rubuttal on balderas going after the former SOS under Martinez because of the inaccuracies in this write up...
 
I read all this thread before daylight this morning. As the sun came up I was about a mile from the house riding an older horse and leading a long yearling with it's first set of empty packboxes.
I was thinking my experience of living in NM was much different than some. I live in very rural NM and have no illusion we'll ever out vote the 3 largest cities.
I've only lived here for about 30 years. I've hunted elk and deer here for 40 years. Only two times in those 40 years did we not hunt as a family in the Q/HD areas. Those years started me going to hunt in Wyoming with a friend in Star Valley. (WY residents have it made when it comes to OTC. When you can buy your tag at 3AM the morning your going hunting, paradise.)
My kids all graduated HS in NM, attended NM Universities on academic scholarships and have 8 undergraduate degrees and zero student debt from those, thanks to the Lottery Scholarships. They have 2 Masters and 3 PHDs with plenty of debt that they don't expect the Gov to forgive.
Our average law enforcement and ems response is over 30 minutes but more like an hour unless by some luck the State Police happen to be in the area. Everyone that I know has at least 1 firearm in their vehicle. Local meth heads know what is going to happen if they get caught in someone's house because they have been warned more than once.
EMS personnel respond to the requesting location in their private vehicle while another person gets the ambulance.
If you pull over on the side of the road 5 people will stop to help you before you get a tire changed. There is no cell service in many areas so people will go make calls and come back to help. You call your neighbors for hardware supplies before you drive an hour one way to go get them and replace them next time your in town. If you are out of town and someone pulls up to your house your neighbors will go see who is there and what's going on.

Is the legislature helping the rural areas. This year yes, due to the fires and flooding. There are there many things that I disagree with that pass in Santa Fe. I vote, call my representatives, write letters and encourage others to do the same. I do my part where I can.
I have kids who live in Albuquerque and know there are areas that are not safe and I would not live there.
I've lived in TX, ID, AZ, GA and other countries.
The beauty of this country is we get to live wherever we choose for whatever we want.
You will find individuals in every group that do not represent the majority of the group.
Good luck on your move and I hope you find what your looking for.
Now I'll go out in the back and shoot a few rounds through my new 300 RUM for load development and desensitize my yearling to gun shots.
Retirement is rough for sure.
 
I read all this thread before daylight this morning. As the sun came up I was about a mile from the house riding an older horse and leading a long yearling with it's first set of empty packboxes.
I was thinking my experience of living in NM was much different than some. I live in very rural NM and have no illusion we'll ever out vote the 3 largest cities.
I've only lived here for about 30 years. I've hunted elk and deer here for 40 years. Only two times in those 40 years did we not hunt as a family in the Q/HD areas. Those years started me going to hunt in Wyoming with a friend in Star Valley. (WY residents have it made when it comes to OTC. When you can buy your tag at 3AM the morning your going hunting, paradise.)
My kids all graduated HS in NM, attended NM Universities on academic scholarships and have 8 undergraduate degrees and zero student debt from those, thanks to the Lottery Scholarships. They have 2 Masters and 3 PHDs with plenty of debt that they don't expect the Gov to forgive.
Our average law enforcement and ems response is over 30 minutes but more like an hour unless by some luck the State Police happen to be in the area. Everyone that I know has at least 1 firearm in their vehicle. Local meth heads know what is going to happen if they get caught in someone's house because they have been warned more than once.
EMS personnel respond to the requesting location in their private vehicle while another person gets the ambulance.
If you pull over on the side of the road 5 people will stop to help you before you get a tire changed. There is no cell service in many areas so people will go make calls and come back to help. You call your neighbors for hardware supplies before you drive an hour one way to go get them and replace them next time your in town. If you are out of town and someone pulls up to your house your neighbors will go see who is there and what's going on.

Is the legislature helping the rural areas. This year yes, due to the fires and flooding. There are there many things that I disagree with that pass in Santa Fe. I vote, call my representatives, write letters and encourage others to do the same. I do my part where I can.
I have kids who live in Albuquerque and know there are areas that are not safe and I would not live there.
I've lived in TX, ID, AZ, GA and other countries.
The beauty of this country is we get to live wherever we choose for whatever we want.
You will find individuals in every group that do not represent the majority of the group.
Good luck on your move and I hope you find what your looking for.
Now I'll go out in the back and shoot a few rounds through my new 300 RUM for load development and desensitize my yearling to gun shots.
Retirement is rough for sure.
Sounds pretty darn good to me. Hope folks are listening. Would you mind if I forward your report to folks. What are homes and building lots out your way costing now days.

Thanks.
 
I read all this thread before daylight this morning. As the sun came up I was about a mile from the house riding an older horse and leading a long yearling with it's first set of empty packboxes.
I was thinking my experience of living in NM was much different than some. I live in very rural NM and have no illusion we'll ever out vote the 3 largest cities.
I've only lived here for about 30 years. I've hunted elk and deer here for 40 years. Only two times in those 40 years did we not hunt as a family in the Q/HD areas. Those years started me going to hunt in Wyoming with a friend in Star Valley. (WY residents have it made when it comes to OTC. When you can buy your tag at 3AM the morning your going hunting, paradise.)
My kids all graduated HS in NM, attended NM Universities on academic scholarships and have 8 undergraduate degrees and zero student debt from those, thanks to the Lottery Scholarships. They have 2 Masters and 3 PHDs with plenty of debt that they don't expect the Gov to forgive.
Our average law enforcement and ems response is over 30 minutes but more like an hour unless by some luck the State Police happen to be in the area. Everyone that I know has at least 1 firearm in their vehicle. Local meth heads know what is going to happen if they get caught in someone's house because they have been warned more than once.
EMS personnel respond to the requesting location in their private vehicle while another person gets the ambulance.
If you pull over on the side of the road 5 people will stop to help you before you get a tire changed. There is no cell service in many areas so people will go make calls and come back to help. You call your neighbors for hardware supplies before you drive an hour one way to go get them and replace them next time your in town. If you are out of town and someone pulls up to your house your neighbors will go see who is there and what's going on.

Is the legislature helping the rural areas. This year yes, due to the fires and flooding. There are there many things that I disagree with that pass in Santa Fe. I vote, call my representatives, write letters and encourage others to do the same. I do my part where I can.
I have kids who live in Albuquerque and know there are areas that are not safe and I would not live there.
I've lived in TX, ID, AZ, GA and other countries.
The beauty of this country is we get to live wherever we choose for whatever we want.
You will find individuals in every group that do not represent the majority of the group.
Good luck on your move and I hope you find what your looking for.
Now I'll go out in the back and shoot a few rounds through my new 300 RUM for load development and desensitize my yearling to gun shots.
Retirement is rough for sure.
That’s a lot like where we live now.
Let me say there’s no better way to start the day like you just did sir! ????
 
I read all this thread before daylight this morning. As the sun came up I was about a mile from the house riding an older horse and leading a long yearling with it's first set of empty packboxes.
I was thinking my experience of living in NM was much different than some. I live in very rural NM and have no illusion we'll ever out vote the 3 largest cities.
I've only lived here for about 30 years. I've hunted elk and deer here for 40 years. Only two times in those 40 years did we not hunt as a family in the Q/HD areas. Those years started me going to hunt in Wyoming with a friend in Star Valley. (WY residents have it made when it comes to OTC. When you can buy your tag at 3AM the morning your going hunting, paradise.)
My kids all graduated HS in NM, attended NM Universities on academic scholarships and have 8 undergraduate degrees and zero student debt from those, thanks to the Lottery Scholarships. They have 2 Masters and 3 PHDs with plenty of debt that they don't expect the Gov to forgive.
Our average law enforcement and ems response is over 30 minutes but more like an hour unless by some luck the State Police happen to be in the area. Everyone that I know has at least 1 firearm in their vehicle. Local meth heads know what is going to happen if they get caught in someone's house because they have been warned more than once.
EMS personnel respond to the requesting location in their private vehicle while another person gets the ambulance.
If you pull over on the side of the road 5 people will stop to help you before you get a tire changed. There is no cell service in many areas so people will go make calls and come back to help. You call your neighbors for hardware supplies before you drive an hour one way to go get them and replace them next time your in town. If you are out of town and someone pulls up to your house your neighbors will go see who is there and what's going on.

Is the legislature helping the rural areas. This year yes, due to the fires and flooding. There are there many things that I disagree with that pass in Santa Fe. I vote, call my representatives, write letters and encourage others to do the same. I do my part where I can.
I have kids who live in Albuquerque and know there are areas that are not safe and I would not live there.
I've lived in TX, ID, AZ, GA and other countries.
The beauty of this country is we get to live wherever we choose for whatever we want.
You will find individuals in every group that do not represent the majority of the group.
Good luck on your move and I hope you find what your looking for.
Now I'll go out in the back and shoot a few rounds through my new 300 RUM for load development and desensitize my yearling to gun shots.
Retirement is rough for sure.

This is very familiar to my experience in NM especially the rural living. And my kids also benefitted from the lottery scholarships and local scholarships to get degrees without debt.
I have. a 500 yard shooting range in the back yard.
I go on 5-10 hunts every year between my family and friends which includes out of state hunts.
NM is my hunting bread and butter.
I dont like the direction this state is headed, but, I dont like the direction the entire country is headed.
I have spent enough time during the winter in WY, MT, ID to know that the trade off of the weather in NM is definitely a huge benefit.
CO is politically in worse condition, overcrowded and longer winters.
I live in paradise. I could have moved anywhere in the country when I moved here. I have never regretted moving here or wished I moved somewhere else.
There will come a day when even these rural areas are not affected by the cancer of the left, but, that goes for everywhere in the US.
 
Stay and vote/fight for what is right. Everyone wants to leave for another state, but the same crap is happening everywhere. People have been to tolerate for to long and this crap was/is the outcome.
The corruption is insurmountable in some states. The left planned their takeover well. Corrupt the SOS, corrupt the governor and you own the state.

Like the president said, what matters is who counts the ballots. Votes don't matter anymore, only ballots. Your best bet is to move away from the major population centers and find a state whose government hasnt yet been corrupted. Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada are all lost.
 
The corruption is insurmountable in some states. The left planned their takeover well. Corrupt the SOS, corrupt the governor and you own the state.

Like the president said, what matters is who counts the ballots. Votes don't matter anymore, only ballots. Your best bet is to move away from the major population centers and find a state whose government hasnt yet been corrupted. Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada are all lost.
uh......don't forget the leader of the pack....
 
This is very familiar to my experience in NM especially the rural living. And my kids also benefitted from the lottery scholarships and local scholarships to get degrees without debt.
I have. a 500 yard shooting range in the back yard.
I go on 5-10 hunts every year between my family and friends which includes out of state hunts.
NM is my hunting bread and butter.
I dont like the direction this state is headed, but, I dont like the direction the entire country is headed.
I have spent enough time during the winter in WY, MT, ID to know that the trade off of the weather in NM is definitely a huge benefit.
CO is politically in worse condition, overcrowded and longer winters.
I live in paradise. I could have moved anywhere in the country when I moved here. I have never regretted moving here or wished I moved somewhere else.
There will come a day when even these rural areas are not affected by the cancer of the left, but, that goes for everywhere in the US.

I haven't only lived in NM. I lived for a few years in Cache Valley, UT. It can get really cold there with some long winters. I miss Cache Valley, but it's turning blue sadly enough. But then, Logan is a college town so...
 
I read all this thread before daylight this morning. As the sun came up I was about a mile from the house riding an older horse and leading a long yearling with it's first set of empty packboxes.
I was thinking my experience of living in NM was much different than some. I live in very rural NM and have no illusion we'll ever out vote the 3 largest cities.
I've only lived here for about 30 years. I've hunted elk and deer here for 40 years. Only two times in those 40 years did we not hunt as a family in the Q/HD areas. Those years started me going to hunt in Wyoming with a friend in Star Valley. (WY residents have it made when it comes to OTC. When you can buy your tag at 3AM the morning your going hunting, paradise.)
My kids all graduated HS in NM, attended NM Universities on academic scholarships and have 8 undergraduate degrees and zero student debt from those, thanks to the Lottery Scholarships. They have 2 Masters and 3 PHDs with plenty of debt that they don't expect the Gov to forgive.
Our average law enforcement and ems response is over 30 minutes but more like an hour unless by some luck the State Police happen to be in the area. Everyone that I know has at least 1 firearm in their vehicle. Local meth heads know what is going to happen if they get caught in someone's house because they have been warned more than once.
EMS personnel respond to the requesting location in their private vehicle while another person gets the ambulance.
If you pull over on the side of the road 5 people will stop to help you before you get a tire changed. There is no cell service in many areas so people will go make calls and come back to help. You call your neighbors for hardware supplies before you drive an hour one way to go get them and replace them next time your in town. If you are out of town and someone pulls up to your house your neighbors will go see who is there and what's going on.

Is the legislature helping the rural areas. This year yes, due to the fires and flooding. There are there many things that I disagree with that pass in Santa Fe. I vote, call my representatives, write letters and encourage others to do the same. I do my part where I can.
I have kids who live in Albuquerque and know there are areas that are not safe and I would not live there.
I've lived in TX, ID, AZ, GA and other countries.
The beauty of this country is we get to live wherever we choose for whatever we want.
You will find individuals in every group that do not represent the majority of the group.
Good luck on your move and I hope you find what your looking for.
Now I'll go out in the back and shoot a few rounds through my new 300 RUM for load development and desensitize my yearling to gun shots.
Retirement is rough for sure.

Nice write up. And true in so many ways. I have several friends who live their lives much like you do in rural NM. Two years ago I almost pulled the trigger on a large acreage with a nice home in rural NM. A couple of situations with the seller delayed that sale and the situation with my sister in the Heartland and a beautiful acreage with a small lake just made our move to the Midwest inevitable. Had we bought the rural home and property here I might feel quite different but I think God had other plans for us. And I get it Packsaddles, there is a quality about the land and nature here in NM. I will miss it.

I'm in my mid 60's now, but back in the 1970's I went to work for a man who turned out to be one of the best mentors for a young man like me, and had a huge influence on my life. He like me, was Hispanic but he did not come from NM. He was from Nebraska. He loved it there and visited often. He met and married his wife when she went to college in Lincoln NE, but she was from ABQ and wanted to live here. So he followed her here. There was a quality about that man that I've never forgotten. I see that same quality in my brother in law and many others in the heartland.
And I'll admit, I am now VERY jaded to ABQ, Santa Fe, Las Cruces, Las Vegas, and Gallup. I've seen and heard to much. I'll also admit that about half the people in this state are good and decent people and a lot of them live in the rural parts this state. BUT that leaves the other half of the population who are just Ignorant, flat out dumb,.........or downright EVIL.

Our house (no longer referred to as HOME) went up for sale here yesterday and we already have multiple offers. We are about T-minus 6 weeks from the big move. We will soon be on a new adventure. God Bless,........ everyone.
 
Gallup? That’s about as different from SF as different can be.

I know it’s infested with goobermint types, but I never thought of it as woke.
 
Blue, please don’t question the sob story.

I was getting a kick out of reading solid stats on the percent of dumb and evil people in NM…… the best evidence I’ve read suggests it’s currently at 50%, and I could infer from reading this thread that science suggests it’s trending up.
I think I heard that the percent of dumb and evil people in the Midwest is much lower, more like 10-12%……paradise for sure.

Just joking, there’s dumb people everywhere.
Funny thing about dumb people is they don’t think they’re dumb…. Imagine that! AND they probably think that the person doing the name calling was, in fact, the dumb one.
 
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The corruption is insurmountable in some states. The left planned their takeover well. Corrupt the SOS, corrupt the governor and you own the state.

Like the president said, what matters is who counts the ballots. Votes don't matter anymore, only ballots. Your best bet is to move away from the major population centers and find a state whose government hasnt yet been corrupted. Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada are all lost.
Words of wisdom ! It is nice to sit backs and realize that based on this thread alone there are a lot more people waking up or wide awake to what is going on in this state and country than those that are asleep at the wheel still.
This post is ? spot on! NM is just going to be a pig pen here shortly. More so than now.
AZ is at least fighting the corrupt system!
If they’re not then the theatrics of it all are very good!
like Pablo I live in rural NM , I grew up on a big ranch that my parents still own. Hunting is awesome in this state. I share all the same loves for the state as most of you!
The long arm of political corruption is already over extended here. It will just get worse, I have a 7 year old daughter that I have to put first that’s the number 1 reason we gotta go!
By the time she graduates high school this place will be California or New York !
 
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Haha. That’s a good one Bugle!! Glad you feel justified reading this tread composed predominantly of conservative hunters, not gonna get too many dissenters here. I’d definitely let MM be your guide to truth in the world.

You ever heard of SAMPLING BIAS?? Go ahead, look it up, and tell me if you think a political survey of MM members would be an accurate representation of the population of NM……anyplace really.
 
Haha. That’s a good one Bugle!! Glad you feel justified reading this tread composed predominantly of conservative hunters, not gonna get too many dissenters here. I’d definitely let MM be your guide to truth in the world.

You ever heard of SAMPLING BIAS?? Go ahead, look it up, and tell me if you think a political survey of MM members would be an accurate representation of the population of NM……anyplace really.
I don’t have to look up anything. I know what it is. I will say that I do believe MOST of us here represent a majority of the state yes.
Other than YOUR people in the 3 big cities with the rainbow colored hair who are going to teach your Littles all about sex positions here shortly between k-2nd grade!
You are obviously not an idiot man, you’re just naive I guess.
You’re Mr big mouth know it all behind your cell phone screen yeah?
How many county commission meetings have you been to in your county? I’ll guess a big fat goose egg 0?
When I see the same people at meetings in every county in the state fighting the best they know how.
You sit behind your tv and computer screen watching local news, cnn, msnbc etc. and like the few people left lacking intellect or discernment in this country, you just eat all their bs up with your breakfast.
Either way you’re train of thought is why this country is in the mess it’s in!
“ MLG AND BIDEN SAY OUR ELECTIONS ARE SAFE AND SECURE, IT MUST BE TRUE RIGHT?”
Right…
Either put up or shut up already.
 
Well, sampling bias or not- it's all about what each person feels right for themselves. When you make a decision based on that, you likely reach out for confirmation. If someone gets that here or elsewhere- then so be it.

For a socialist, NM is still too conservative. For a conservative, NM is far too liberal. Bias is everywhere- nobody is immune.

Good for those who make decisions that are best for themselves rather than wallowing in misery. It takes guts to make big changes!
 
Well, sampling bias or not- it's all about what each person feels right for themselves. When you make a decision based on that, you likely reach out for confirmation. If someone gets that here or elsewhere- then so be it.

For a socialist, NM is still too conservative. For a conservative, NM is far too liberal. Bias is everywhere- nobody is immune.

Good for those who make decisions that are best for themselves rather than wallowing in misery. It takes guts to make big changes!
You’re right my friend. It’s not easy leaving everything and everyone you’ve ever known. It’s exhausting trying to make a difference in this state with the tree be corrupt from the top down to the roots!
 
You’re right my friend. It’s not easy leaving everything and everyone you’ve ever known. It’s exhausting trying to make a difference in this state with the tree be corrupt from the top down to the roots!
Good for you Bugle.

I've often thought of moving back to Wyoming. Arizona is moving in the direction of NM and Colorado, which bothers me. But I still like AZ, and my wife likes it more. Heck, we got 4 elk licenses in the draw this year! So I rationalize it can always be worse- and I'm really not miserable about it. There is no perfect situation- just the best one for each of us.
 
Wow Bugle, calling me Mr Bigmouth know it all seems kinda hypocritical, doesn’t it?

You have read me completely wrong politically, I’m not a Democrat, but I’m not buying all the BS on the far right. By the way, Biden and MLG aren’t the only ones saying our elections aren’t rigged, more and more republicans are too.

Again, I’m pretty content to sit back and watch how this is playing out legally….. not lookin so hot for the conspiracy.
 
Wow Bugle, calling me Mr Bigmouth know it all seems kinda hypocritical, doesn’t it?

You have read me completely wrong politically, I’m not a Democrat, but I’m not buying all the BS on the far right. By the way, Biden and MLG aren’t the only ones saying our elections aren’t rigged, more and more republicans are too.

Again, I’m pretty content to sit back and watch how this is playing out legally….. not lookin so hot for the conspiracy.
No not hypocritical in the slightest!

Name a few republicans that agree that elections are safe and secure? Not for arguments sake but genuinely to educate me.
I can bet these “ republicans “ might have names like Romney, Cheney, Kinzinger, Bush? The RINO show!


You say you’re not a dem and act like one, walk like one , and talk like one??‍♂️
Must be a ?


“Again, I’m pretty content to sit back and watch how this is playing out legally…..”

This comment alone exposes the intellectual immaturity!
LEGALLY?
The system is broken! Judges in every court are threatened by the elite every day or placed in the positions by them to do their dirty work! Those judges who are good have two choices, judge fairly and end up
“SUICIDED”
Or cave to the corruption and then and their families can live. It’s a crappy situation.
The “ legal” system is going to be the reason for succession, or another civil war!
They’re not doing they’re jobs. I have two close friends working for border patrol , front lines of the invasion. I feel so bad for how broken they are because of our system.They work their butts off , putting their lives in danger every day , and for what? So the government can give illegals a ride and free phone !

Side topic - I bet you believe the vaccines and masks work?
Covid came from a ??
 
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True to a degree, but there does come a time when relocating over political/economical/social conflicts are not the behaviors of just chronically miserable people. What’s you and your ancestries back story buzz?
 
True to a degree, but there does come a time when relocating over political/economical/social conflicts are not the behaviors of just chronically miserable people. What’s you and your ancestries back story buzz?
I would never choose a state to live in over political reasons...wouldn't happen, period end of story.

Won't do it over economics either, I'd rather rent a crappy apartment in a place I liked to live, than move strictly to make more money to own a house.

My criteria for places to live were/are pretty simple. If I couldn't buy deer and elk tags OTC every year, those states are/were off the list.

Other than that, I didn't/don't really care about the rest. Politics, religion, economics, all not even in the top 20 reasons why I would or would not live in a place.

I've traveled and spent a lot of time working in NV, WY, ID, UT, CO, MT, NM, there's things I like about all of them. There's things I don't care for about all of them. There's good people in all of them, miserable people in all of them as well.

It's just I'll advised to think you're going to move to an imaginary nirvana where you get along with everybody and everyone thinks the same, votes the same, practices the same religion, make the same money, etc...it's fantasyland nonsense.
 
If you read Buzz's posts in the voice of Joy Behar you get a better understanding of where he is coming from.

Well, he is clearly stating his demonstrated truth. Gotta give him that...

I would never choose a state to live in over political reasons

And the other thing Buzz is correct about- there is more to life than any one aspect. If hunting is your #1, that'll drive where ya live. To each their own as they say...
 
That's worse than woke.....
Not really…..ponder the demographics. Strongly Democrat but hardly woke. And not in lockstep with the Roundhouse IMO.

One one hand, I think some people should get out of NM a little more. And on the other I wish they wouldn’t.
 
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True to a degree, but there does come a time when relocating over political/economical/social conflicts are not the behaviors of just chronically miserable people. What’s you and your ancestries back story buzz?
I disagree. Some people will always be miserable SOB’s. How long has the ol yarn about being hung with a new rope been around?

Oh, and my family are mostly immigrants.
 
I would never choose a state to live in over political reasons...wouldn't happen, period end of story.

Won't do it over economics either, I'd rather rent a crappy apartment in a place I liked to live, than move strictly to make more money to own a house.

My criteria for places to live were/are pretty simple. If I couldn't buy deer and elk tags OTC every year, those states are/were off the list.

Other than that, I didn't/don't really care about the rest. Politics, religion, economics, all not even in the top 20 reasons why I would or would not live in a place.

I've traveled and spent a lot of time working in NV, WY, ID, UT, CO, MT, NM, there's things I like about all of them. There's things I don't care for about all of them. There's good people in all of them, miserable people in all of them as well.

It's just I'll advised to think you're going to move to an imaginary nirvana where you get along with everybody and everyone thinks the same, votes the same, practices the same religion, make the same money, etc...it's fantasyland nonsense.
Again I agree with you, to a degree.

Is chasing after something that you like better any different that running from something you want to get away from?

Running or chasing is the same action. The difference is what’s going on in your head at the time. Some people are chasing a better situation others are running from a bad situation. It true, depending on the circumstance, at different times we are all runners and all chasers. Our individual needs and wants determining, at different times. if we are running away or chasing a different desire.

If your miserable because the State you live in has poor hunting/fishing/outdoor lifestyle opinions and you tell everybody how unhappy you are about it and then you move to Wyoming, Alaska or New Zealand, to have those opportunities. Is that necessarily moving to an imaginary nirvana?

If it’s not, then is moving for social or political opportunities any different?

We don’t know who’s a chaser and who’s a runner in these discussions and we don’t know if they are always miserable or rarely miserable.

Some folks live and die over social, political, economic environments some live and die over hunting environments. Apparently these folks value social/political environments over hunting environments.

Seems like we might be a little bias when we compare everybody’s choices in life to our own.

In 1975, I chose politics over hunting and moved from Calgary, Alberta to Glenwood,Utah. I moved again, two years later, a total of 200 yards, to a new house. I haven’t moved another inch in 45 years. I’m really, really happy I left Canada and I don’t think I’ve been living in fantasyland. Regardless, fantasyland or not, I’m happier living here but I do agree, I don’t get along with everyone, not everybody here thinks the same, votes the same, practices the same religion, makes the same money, etc. It’s not nirvana but then I never expected it to be.
 
No not hypocritical in the slightest!

Name a few republicans that agree that elections are safe and secure? Not for arguments sake but genuinely to educate me.
I can bet these “ republicans “ might have names like Romney, Cheney, Kinzinger, Bush? The RINO show!


You say you’re not a dem and act like one, walk like one , and talk like one??‍♂️
Must be a ?


“Again, I’m pretty content to sit back and watch how this is playing out legally…..”

This comment alone exposes the intellectual immaturity!
LEGALLY?
The system is broken! Judges in every court are threatened by the elite every day or placed in the positions by them to do their dirty work! Those judges who are good have two choices, judge fairly and end up
“SUICIDED”
Or cave to the corruption and then and their families can live. It’s a crappy situation.
The “ legal” system is going to be the reason for succession, or another civil war!
They’re not doing they’re jobs. I have two close friends working for border patrol , front lines of the invasion. I feel so bad for how broken they are because of our system.They work their butts off , putting their lives in danger every day , and for what? So the government can give illegals a ride and free phone !

Side topic - I bet you believe the vaccines and masks work?
Covid came from a ??



Sounding kinda like a big mouth know it all again right there.

You got it right, the RINOs not taking the denial pill. You’ll find more of them in the US senate.

Don’t think that I’m so naive to think the legal system is perfect. Why do you think politicians try to stack the deck in their favor when they’re in power? Maybe to take advantage?? Keep in mind, there’s also a BUNCH of people on the left that think there’s some major discrepancies in the legal system. That being said, it is our current system, and some people seem to be in a lot of trouble with it.

Disappointing to hear talk of Civil war….. that sounds really healthy for the country, right? Pretty sure the last one wasn’t reflected on as a positive point in our history. I’m curious, would the sides be the rigged electioners vs the non-rigged electioners OR RINOs/D’s vs the REAL R’s OR would it just be straight up R’s vs D’s?

I’m guessing you just warship everything Margie Taylor Green whispers in your ear.
 
I disagree. Some people will always be miserable SOB’s. How long has the ol yarn about being hung with a new rope been around?

Oh, and my family are mostly immigrants.
Absolutely true. The older I get the more I fit that miserable SOB category, but you already knew that. ?

Immigrant ancestry could be a genetic characteristic all Americans share, in as much as not one of us evolved from a microbe. Everybody here left somewhere else, for some reason. Some chased something to get here and some fled something to get here.
 
Sounding kinda like a big mouth know it all again right there.

You got it right, the RINOs not taking the denial pill. You’ll find more of them in the US senate.

Don’t think that I’m so naive to think the legal system is perfect. Why do you think politicians try to stack the deck in their favor when they’re in power? Maybe to take advantage?? Keep in mind, there’s also a BUNCH of people on the left that think there’s some major discrepancies in the legal system. That being said, it is our current system, and some people seem to be in a lot of trouble with it.

Disappointing to hear talk of Civil war….. that sounds really healthy for the country, right? Pretty sure the last one wasn’t reflected on as a positive point in our history. I’m curious, would the sides be the rigged electioners vs the non-rigged electioners OR RINOs/D’s vs the REAL R’s OR would it just be straight up R’s vs D’s?

I’m guessing you just warship everything Margie Taylor Green whispers in your ear.
Seems like the more we bicker the more similarities I see in our personalities. I’m not offended you say I’m a big mouth , I also have a thick skull. I intentionally ignore your responses to political conversations so we don’t end up in these pissing contests . You just can’t help yourself.
Establishment politicians are why our country is bordering third world.
I did forget the old crow McConnel in the senate . It’s the Democrats that have people like you fooled into thinking they’re republicans that you’re referring to. My point is REAL REPUBLICANS aren’t saying elections are free and fair.

If you think I’m the first one to spew civil war out of my mouth I hate to disappoint buddy! It is sad to think about civil war , nobody I know wants that. Nobody I know wants the leftists sick and perverse agenda forced on us or better yet our children. That alone is enough to make any man ready to do what needs to be done.
We can get into all kinds of stuff . How about all money laundered in Ukraine to line the pockets of the elite? Our money !
As for who will be on what side !
RINOS/D’S vs American patriots.
It’s the people in the middle like you who are going to have to chose a side . I guarantee you more than 100 million have chose there’s.
OH AND MTG! She should be the first female president!
 
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Bugle, there’s lots we would agree on.

I’m definitely not a fan of the liberal social agenda. But IMO that’s not worth people’s lives.

Do scroll up on the thread and see who couldn’t help themself…..not accurate to pin it on me.

I’m good to call it quits again, no solutions happening here.
 
Bugle, there’s lots we would agree on.

I’m definitely not a fan of the liberal social agenda. But IMO that’s not worth people’s lives.

Do scroll up on the thread and see who couldn’t help themself…..not accurate to pin it on me.

I’m good to call it quits again, no solutions happening here.
Bugle, there’s lots we would agree on.

I’m definitely not a fan of the liberal social agenda. But IMO that’s not worth people’s lives.

Do scroll up on the thread and see who couldn’t help themself…..not accurate to pin it on me.

I’m good to call it quits again, no solutions happening here.
You’re right I called you out on the backhanded comments. I openly took the first shot . My apologies.
There was a time we got along great until the world we knew came what it is now.
We may agree on some things you’re right .
We’re not going to resolve anything any time I’m sure.
I am at a point where I do not associate with libs,dems, independents, or “moderates”
I have a great circle of people here because we are a very conservative county.
As for others, I don’t even speak to uncles , aunts, cousins etc. I don’t have time for them.
When the line is drawn it’s not going to matter to me who’s on the other side.
Hope you’re on ours.
 
The first thing anyone needs to know about someone is that they aren't them. Once they understand that, everything else makes sense.

If we were supposed to be happy where ever we are, and aren't supposed to look for something better, nobody would move. Ever.

Even though I thought Buzz's post were a little humorous and off, there is a thin line of truth to them...
 
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You’re right I called you out on the backhanded comments. I openly took the first shot . My apologies.
There was a time we got along great until the world we knew came what it is now.
We may agree on some things you’re right .
We’re not going to resolve anything any time I’m sure.
I am at a point where I do not associate with libs,dems, independents, or “moderates”
I have a great circle of people here because we are a very conservative county.
As for others, I don’t even speak to uncles , aunts, cousins etc. I don’t have time for them.
When the line is drawn it’s not going to matter to me who’s on the other side.
Hope you’re on ours.
Sounds absolutely miserable living in an echo chamber.

Glad you're happy about it though, and really that's all that counts I reckon.
 
Sounds absolutely miserable living in an echo chamber.

Glad you're happy about it though, and really that's all that counts I reckon.
Hey gramps, keep your head in the sand and mind your business.
Wasn’t talking to you. By the looks of it you only got a couple election cycles left if your lucky. So keep the ******* in your mouth.
 
Sounds absolutely miserable living in an echo chamber.

Glad you're happy about it though, and really that's all that counts I reckon.

I'm so glad we have a NON-RESIDENT of New Mexico posting to residents about what it's like living in NM.

Never mind that you don't have a clue what it was like during the "pandemic" with the lockdown and restrictive measures imposed and that the emergency health order still has not been suspended.

Never mind that you don't have a clue what the fallout it had with many of our youth and now some that are young adults.

Never mind that you don't have a clue what the politics does to this state in making it last in education, infrastructure, and economic well-being.

Never mind that you don't have a clue that NM's gov'r is ranked number 50.

Now, go away.
 
I'm so glad we have a NON-RESIDENT of New Mexico posting to residents about what it's like living in NM.

Never mind that you don't have a clue what it was like during the "pandemic" with the lockdown and restrictive measures imposed and that the emergency health order still has not been suspended.

Never mind that you don't have a clue what the fallout it had with many of our youth and now some that are young adults.

Never mind that you don't have a clue what the politics does to this state in making it last in education, infrastructure, and economic well-being.

Never mind that you don't have a clue that NM's gov'r is ranked number 50.

Now, go away.
? man! Freaking joke!
 
I'm so glad we have a NON-RESIDENT of New Mexico posting to residents about what it's like living in NM.

Never mind that you don't have a clue what it was like during the "pandemic" with the lockdown and restrictive measures imposed and that the emergency health order still has not been suspended.

Never mind that you don't have a clue what the fallout it had with many of our youth and now some that are young adults.

Never mind that you don't have a clue what the politics does to this state in making it last in education, infrastructure, and economic well-being.

Never mind that you don't have a clue that NM's gov'r is ranked number 50.

Now, go away.
Doesn't stop you from commenting about everything Wyoming does. So when's the big move?
 
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Hey gramps, keep your head in the sand and mind your business.
Wasn’t talking to you. By the looks of it you only got a couple election cycles left if your lucky. So keep the ******* in your mouth.
Laffin'...

I won't even be eligible for SS in 2 more election cycles. Well, actually I don't know why I lied just then. Being a fed employee I qualify for SS offset at 56 years 8 months as part of my awesome retirement...

You just need to keep employed and paying those taxes...I have a bunch of hunting and fishing to do.

Laffin'...even more.
 
Laffin'...

I won't even be eligible for SS in 2 more election cycles. Well, actually I don't know why I lied just then. Being a fed employee I qualify for SS offset at 56 years 8 months as part of my awesome retirement...

You just need to keep employed and paying those taxes...I have a bunch of hunting and fishing to do.

Laffin'...even more.
Let’s go Brandon right ???
 
I am truly jealous of you Buzz....to have the foresight to climb on that gravy train when you did. You are a smart guy and know it is unsustainable. When you retire, if they don't replace you....no one will notice.

It is attitudes like yours that make government employees so despised by the dummies that didn't climb aboard.

People once called "civil servants" are no longer servants, and are certainly not civil....
 
I am truly jealous of you Buzz....to have the foresight to climb on that gravy train when you did. You are a smart guy and know it is unsustainable. When you retire, if they don't replace you....no one will notice.

It is attitudes like yours that make government employees so despised by the dummies that didn't climb aboard.

People once called "civil servants" are no longer servants, and are certainly not civil....
Just like choosing where to live, choosing a career path is another important decision to make.

Some just seem to get it right, others, not so much. Is what it is.
 
Crazy, I was born and raised in NM, and just moved to Kodiak Alaska in December to lose the madness. What an amazing place to raise the kids, should have done it sooner. New Mexico what a dumpster fire, but that's what you get when Democrats are in power for 100 years.

It's really only been the last 6 though.

I'm liking the looks of South Dakota right now...
 
Crazy, I was born and raised in NM, and just moved to Kodiak Alaska in December to lose the madness. What an amazing place to raise the kids, should have done it sooner. New Mexico what a dumpster fire, but that's what you get when Democrats are in power for 100 years.

My sister was born and raised in NM also. She left NM in the 1980's and moved to AK for 10 years. She loved it there. She got stationed in the Midwest and has been there since. She's never given a thought to moving back to NM.
 
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Funny every state that touches NM is far more prosperous. And yet NM has far more natural resources than any of them. AZ, TX, OK, CO and UT have no where near the variety of natural resources NM has.

NM has oil, gas, coal, copper, silver, gold, uranium, molybdenum, potash, timber, salt, perlite, gypsum, pumice,..... ect. And the list goes on and on and on.

Remember a few years back when they discovered a substantial oil/gas field near Santa Fe? Then Governor, "Hog-jowls" Richardson and the Dem controlled legislature went right to work making sure that that oil field would NEVER be developed. It has now been forgotten and shadow banned from mention.
 
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Like I was saying 100 years

And according to the write up, we can thank dems for being where we are and now that NM has "spoken", it will only get worse. No time ever have radical bills been pushed and signed into "law" until now.

The current gov't will not make NM more prosperous...
 
There is so much wrong with this ignorant statement (below) it is hard to believe there are people that actually believe themselves with this stuff. If you lack basic intelligence and think this statement below is an any way logical or statistically sound, please stay in New Mexico. I have loved everywhere I have ever lived. That said we have plenty of old men that 'don't have to look anything up' because they know everything already - don't need anymore. ECHO CHAMBER - feel free to stay in yours so that everyone agrees with you and you can foster more hate.

For those not too far gone, please find a way to show kindness to children that struggle with their identity - these children are 4X more likely to commit suicide than their peers. A little empathy and kindness can go a long way.


I don’t have to look up anything. I know what it is. I will say that I do believe MOST of us here represent a majority of the state yes.
Other than YOUR people in the 3 big cities with the rainbow colored hair who are going to teach your Littles all about sex positions here shortly between k-2nd grade!
 
There is so much wrong with this ignorant statement (below) it is hard to believe there are people that actually believe themselves with this stuff. If you lack basic intelligence and think this statement below is an any way logical or statistically sound, please stay in New Mexico. I have loved everywhere I have ever lived. That said we have plenty of old men that 'don't have to look anything up' because they know everything already - don't need anymore. ECHO CHAMBER - feel free to stay in yours so that everyone agrees with you and you can foster more hate.

For those not too far gone, please find a way to show kindness to children that struggle with their identity - these children are 4X more likely to commit suicide than their peers. A little empathy and kindness can go a long way.


I don’t have to look up anything. I know what it is. I will say that I do believe MOST of us here represent a majority of the state yes.
Other than YOUR people in the 3 big cities with the rainbow colored hair who are going to teach your Littles all about sex positions here shortly between k-2nd grade!

So where's your statement (below)?
 
If you have children in school you should seriously think about them ! New Mexico is at the bottom of the education list, bottom of the health care list. When I had a truck stolen in ABQ the police didn’t even come out to investigate it. I saw a news show on tv about a year and a half ago where a liberal Cruces politician was telling some reporter that there was no problem on the southern border. That’s like telling the officer, no sir, I haven’t been drinking, then blow a 3.0
This place has basically turned into California only without the money and beaches.
 
For those not too far gone, please find a way to show kindness to children that struggle with their identity - these children are 4X more likely to commit suicide than their peers. A little empathy and kindness can go a long way.
Hello Iowan,

Please don't take this as a rebuttal to your statement above. If there is someone who I REALLY have empathy for its this young person. Its absolutely heartbreaking to see what has happened to this young person. The "kindness" shown to this young person who struggled with their identity has turned out to be the cruelest thing imaginable. There's a lot I should/would/could say about the "kindness" this young persons mother displayed, but I will refrain. Watching and reading this, has me believing there are things worse than suicide.

BTW I raised a kid who struggled with their identity from a VERY young age. EVERYONE (including my own parents) except a few thought this kid was going to be a mess. AS its turned out she is far more stable and normal than a lot of her friends. It was the love of God and her immediate family that kept her centered.

Read and watch the videos here carefully.

 
There is so much wrong with this ignorant statement (below) it is hard to believe there are people that actually believe themselves with this stuff. If you lack basic intelligence and think this statement below is an any way logical or statistically sound, please stay in New Mexico. I have loved everywhere I have ever lived. That said we have plenty of old men that 'don't have to look anything up' because they know everything already - don't need anymore. ECHO CHAMBER - feel free to stay in yours so that everyone agrees with you and you can foster more hate.

For those not too far gone, please find a way to show kindness to children that struggle with their identity - these children are 4X more likely to commit suicide than their peers. A little empathy and kindness can go a long way.


I don’t have to look up anything. I know what it is. I will say that I do believe MOST of us here represent a majority of the state yes.
Other than YOUR people in the 3 big cities with the rainbow colored hair who are going to teach your Littles all about sex positions here shortly between k-2nd grade!
I’ll tell you what pisses me off…… it’s the bullsh!t that getting passed off as acceptable solutions to birth defects in human gender physiology.

This rotten crap about “accepting your non-binary gender birth defect” and “saying” it’s natural, is going to get more of these poor kids/people to commit suicide than anything but out right genocide has ever done.

What we’re doing to these unfortunate people is no different that it would be if we told children born with a cleft palate to celebrate their diversity. It’s as ridiculous as teaching Kindergartens that people born with a desire to burn things down is a great life style to explore and consider for themselves.

If our screwed up society would put the same effort into developing the medical science on how to “fix” gender birth defects, that they have put into “fixing” birth heart defects, club feet, cleft palates, etc etc, we would be well on our way to “fixing” gender birth defects. What we are doing to these people and our children is absolute madness.

Shame on humanity for this socially endorsed “transgender genocide.”
 
If you are so unaccomplished in life that your identity has anything do with what you like sexually, you have a problem. I could care less what someones attractions are as long as they dont involve children.
Gender confusion is a form of mental illness. Encouraging or playing along with it is not beneficial to anyone.

That being said, hopefully the draws come out soon so this thread can die the sudden death it needs to.
 
If you are so unaccomplished in life that your identity has anything do with what you like sexually, you have a problem. I could care less what someones attractions are as long as they dont involve children.
Gender confusion is a form of mental illness. Encouraging or playing along with it is not beneficial to anyone.

That being said, hopefully the draws come out soon so this thread can die the sudden death it needs to.
Amen!
Good luck brother
 
If you are so unaccomplished in life that your identity has anything do with what you like sexually, you have a problem. I could care less what someones attractions are as long as they dont involve children.
Gender confusion is a form of mental illness. Encouraging or playing along with it is not beneficial to anyone.

That being said, hopefully the draws come out soon so this thread can die the sudden death it needs to.

Historically, you have 4 weeks to go ;)
 
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