Guns as an investment???

elks96

Long Time Member
Messages
3,793
Yes I know there is a lot to be said for collecting guns of significant historic value etc. But what about just collecting guns? Will they hold the value? Lets say you had enough money to spend $1000 a month on guns. Would you buy a bunch of guns with the idea that in the future they might appreciate? I know they will not match the stock market, but would most hold their value enough to justify having them in mass quantity?

I only ask because I know several guys who have a lot of firearms. Most of them were bought on a deal or at a cheap price that they could likely resell for more...
 
"Would you buy a bunch of guns with the idea that in the future they might appreciate?"

No, I would not purchase guns as any part of an investment strategy or with an idea they might appreciate. If you can afford it and buying a $1,000 per month of guns makes you happy, by all means. Will their value hold, go up, not decrease as much as other discretionary purchases (e.g., truck, rv, boat)?? Possibly. But buy them because you want them, like them, plan to use them...not for speculative appreciation reasons.
 
I have several friends who do this. They have FFLs and ran their own businesses. Very valuable or historical collectible firearms they keep. They buy any guns they can get for 50-60% of market value. They actively market them thru gun shows or word of mouth, and dump them anytime they can get 90% or more of value. Never keep more than 3 years.
 
If you buy guns of good quality, they should gain in value over time. I have always been able to sell any of my guns for a profit. A very good example of handguns will be the Colt "snake" guns. Python, Diamondback, Cobra, all three are selling used at a very high price for what they cost in the 70's-90's. Same for alot of the Smith&Wesson handguns.
As a young deputy, I purchased a S&W model 39 from another deputy for $160.00. Less then a year later I was offered $300.00 for the gun as they were hard to find and were considered a great off duty gun.
Colt 1911's were another class of handguns that gained in value.
RELH
 
In my experience, guns generally just hold their value (with a few exceptions). But its a very short list of toys that even do that, so guns are welcome in my portfolio. :)
 
I think about this a lot. I don’t see guns holding value. A M700 from the late 90s was about $750-$850. That same rifle will only go for $500, maybe $600 tops. I consider myself a small collector. It’s my plan to sell the guns I have in the late stages of retirement when I can’t see or hear anymore. If I get rid of at least one a month, I’m looking at 60 months with a few hundred made on each one, on average. I have guns that, when new were from $450-$6500 and one, the $6500 will not fetch but $4000 today. At least I know I wouldn’t pay more for it as a used gun. Guns are getting less and less expensive as each year passes and the only way to make serious cash from guns are the ones like you said are of historic significance or otherwise rare. A Ruger American will be a $150 gun in 10 years, an 870 will be the same. Things that will help you get top dollar would be to keep all the paperwork like the receipts, test target from the factory and the original box/case the gun came in with all of the useless crap that came in it like the owners manual and warranty card, everything related to the gun. I have 4 Colts that I paid to get certificates from Colt showing when it was made and where it was shipped. Records like that may help the value a little.
 
IMO collectibles like guns can't be considered a true "investment". There are WAY better ways to invest. But like all collecting, we might still do it because we like learning about the items, admire their history, and enjoy the search for items that appeal to us. If you did a dollar-for-dollar comparison, the best investment medium will invariably be the stock market. The long-standing history of the equities market proves that a 1000.00 investment appreciates to about 6000.00 in 20 years. I'm guessing that your average gun will not go up in value by a factor of 6X in 20 years. I thoroughly enjoy collecting stuff, but fully recognize it's not a real "investment".
 
If you really know guns you can get some great returns, IF YOU PLAN ON SELLING THEM AT A LATER DATE. If you hold them until you die then your wife or significant other will probably take a big loss at your estate sale ;-)
I've been in the firearm retailing/ffl buying/selling/trading business off and on but mostly on since 1991and I've read most every gun digest, shooters bible, blue book, magazines etc. since I was 12 in the early 80's (yes I'm a gun freak) and I have an extensive gun library. I attend SHOT show nearly every year and have had a booth there three times as a vendor. I've never taken a loss unless I needed money right now and had to sell immediately. Even then I only sold for a little less than I paid for.

The best thing that happened for me is that when I was a teenager I worked for and was mentored by an older gentleman who was the best gun/horse trader I've ever known. He taught me the right way to buy, sell and trade.

I've had more than a handful of guns that I've made a couple thousand dollars each and many that I made $500 or more. Like anything else you need to know what and how to buy. Run of the mill off the store rack guns will usually break even maybe less but they always hold value and are a great liquid investment. Just like everything else the internet has really changed the business, some for the good and some for the bad.

With all this being said, it can take a lifetime to learn everything even when you're specializing in things like S&W, WW2 and other types of guns. Are you looking at an original or something that has been altered, restored or faked when it comes to older or collectible firearms. It's easy to get burned and there are scammers.
It's the same with cars, antiques and other things, if you know what you're doing then you can make money. One thing about investing in guns is that they are a much more fun investment than the stock market.
 
I collect guns because I enjoy it. I have made some good deals and have some desirable pieces. Still, I would be ecstatic to break even on them when (and if) I sell them. There are much better investments than guns. Especially when the time value of money is considered (as it always should be).

In fact, in no small measure those other investments have allowed me to collect guns.

Working guns are not really investments at all. They are simply tools you might someday sell to recoup some of what you paid for them.
 
I just like buying, building and tinkering with guns. I view them as personal pleasure and family heirloom investments not a financial one. My biggest fear in life is I will die and the wife will sell them all for what I told her I paid/had in them!
 
My biggest fear in life is I will die and the wife will sell them all for what I told her I paid/had in them!

LMAO!
LMAO...Ain’t that the truth!!!
My dad has a buddy that owns A LOT of synthetic stainless rifles all in different calibers. He said he does it so his wife can’t tell when he’s bought a new rifle. ?
 
I've been collecting pre 64 winchesters especially model 94s since the late 70s and my collection has appreciated in value very well but you do or better know what you are doing you need to learn every thing you can every way possible or you can learn the hard and expensive way if you happen to live in utah or neighboring states I would suggest joining the utah gun collectors association and start learning that is if you are considering investing in collectable firearms
 
I told my wife that guns spontaneously reproduce if left in a gun cabinet for any period of time
She didn’t believe that either
 
The investment aspect as worked out well for me. I'm a FFL dealer and have a knack for falling into great deals. The old Colts like Pythons and Diamondbacks have been kind to me.
The bigger money I have made have been from Transferable machine guns. A long time ago I watched my 401k losing money, so I invested a small amount of play money into a transferable machine gun. Bought it for a great price, and flipped it for as all most double 2 years later. Have done it numerous times now as I upgraded machine guns each time. Expensive investment that I can go waste ammo when ever I get the itch. Transferable machine guns will only increase in value as time goes on.
 
The ship has sailed on collecter guns, old Colts and Winchester rifles are not worth what they were 10yrs ago..I just sold all the snake Colts, and some 66winchesters and a henry, should have sold em years ago..prices are dropping off due to the guys who collected them are dead or old and not buying anymore..I bought my guns in the 80s at very low prices..I agree with the machine gun post, but that market is small..look for estate guns that you can get a bundle deal, that is what I look for now. Last one I bought had 86guns and did very well on them..
 
LMAO...Ain’t that the truth!!!
My dad has a buddy that owns A LOT of synthetic stainless rifles all in different calibers. He said he does it so his wife can’t tell when he’s bought a new rifle. ?
When I buy a new gun I put it in the safe for a while and then when I bring it out. My wife (she has a good eye) will say is that a new gun? I say Honey do we have to go through this again every time I go hunting? LMOA
 
I've been collecting pre 64 winchesters especially model 94s since the late 70s and my collection has appreciated in value very well but you do or better know what you are doing you need to learn every thing you can every way possible or you can learn the hard and expensive way if you happen to live in utah or neighboring states I would suggest joining the utah gun collectors association and start learning that is if you are considering investing in collectable firearms
I inherited a pre-64 Winchester 30.06 and it has never been fired. Still has the sale tag on it. I had a collector like you try hard to buy it. I won't sell it as it was my Grandfathers
 
Another thing I think about is the gun culture in the future. It would be the Gen Z generation buying guns. Most of the millennials I talk to about guns don’t have the respect for a quality revolver or can even picture a pre 64 Winchester so it’s hard to imagine their kids will dig a model 52 winchester or a 35 year old Accuracy International. They couldn’t handle the thought of a Singer 1911 selling for over $60,000, nor would they care. It seems like all they’re into are AR’s and polymer strikers. It could turn around I guess. Maybe in the future they can’t get enough of the old relics. That would be nice to see.
 
Yes I have a hard time envisioning a world in which the young people of today are as interested in old guns as my generation and the ones above me are. Thus, the market for them as an investment seems dim....
 
I advise you to invest not in weapons but shares of companies producing weapons. Shares of military companies are suitable for long-term investments. The world is not very far from the idea of disarmament because as long as there are aggressor status, it can cost sovereignty, so military companies should grow in the long term. I thought about it when I read several articles on investorjunkie.com. The fact is that weapons are not a highly liquid asset. Even if a weapon model becomes more expensive in a few years, there is no guarantee that you will sell it. Company shares will bring you passive income.
 
Last edited:
No. Guns are a bad investment. Ammo on the other hand......
This is so true and frustrating. A couple of cases of good shotgun ammo will cover the cost of most decent shotguns. I almost sold my 10 gauge ammo since I couldn't find permanent parts to repair Ithaca Mag 10 ---- and then I found a nearly brand new Mag 10 in a consignment outdoor shop at a bargain price. The good news is I added another gun to the collection.
 
I think the ones the ones that make money on guns are the ones who do not hold onto them. They buy and sell consistently and do not keep them for years. I think many guns hold their value and do better items.
There are guys over on accurate reloading that do this and they know more about guns than any other site I have been on. Most know what they are buying and exactly what they are worth.
I do not sell a lot of guns but I usually buy high and sell low :)
 
i can only lose money on guns, i never sell them, just buy more. so yeah, bad "investment" for me, but thats not why im buying them
 
Another thing I think about is the gun culture in the future. It would be the Gen Z generation buying guns. Most of the millennials I talk to about guns don’t have the respect for a quality revolver or can even picture a pre 64 Winchester so it’s hard to imagine their kids will dig a model 52 winchester or a 35 year old Accuracy International. They couldn’t handle the thought of a Singer 1911 selling for over $60,000, nor would they care. It seems like all they’re into are AR’s and polymer strikers. It could turn around I guess. Maybe in the future they can’t get enough of the old relics. That would be nice to see.

Or the Smithsonian... (Kidding, I hope)

As others have said, collect guns if you'd like. I wouldn't view it as an investment for financial gain.
 
i can only lose money on guns, i never sell them, just buy more. so yeah, bad "investment" for me, but thats not why im buying them
That is a good idea. I have just decided to keep mine and pass them on to my kids and grandkids. It seems like there is always something to buy, that I will likely rarely shoot!
 
I have kept every gun that I bought or acquired for the last 50 years. I have been buying more now that I am retired. There are still a few that I have wanted over the years and never bought them back in the day and will by the time I can't do it anymore. Every gun that I have has increased in value. I just bought a few more this summer and they were a good price so I know they were worth more then what I paid.

I am partial to older reliable guns with good looking wood furniture(Stocks etc.) that have history. I also am partial to old Colts. S&W pistols and Old JM Stamped Marlins and Winchesters. Old vintage ammo and ammo boxes is another bad(In a good way) habit of mine.

Gives me something to enjoy now that I am retired when I am not hunting.
 
Yahoo someone else has the same addiction that I have

IMG_20221020_191715.jpg
 

Click-a-Pic ... Details & Bigger Photos
Back
Top Bottom