M700 extractor

Captain_coues · Dec 20, 2021

Hello,
I am having a lot of trouble with my factory extractor for my model 700. It twists inside the bolt and leaves the casing in the chamber. Fixing it only works for a couple dozen rounds. I’m about to upgrade the rifle with a new barrel and all the accuracy trimmings. Is it wise to go with a M16 or Sako extractor or get a new bolt and stick with the Remington

Extractor while doing the upgrades? It’s a 223 if that means anything.

hawkbill · Dec 20, 2021

I would go with a Sako extractor, I have twice and never had another problem

Blank · Dec 20, 2021

Definitely go with the Sako. Much stronger and positive engagement. I just had Heritage build me a new bolt for my Model 7 with the Sako.

Cahunter805 · Dec 20, 2021

You can go with a Mini M16 extractor on the 223 bolt face.

Captain_coues · Dec 20, 2021

Thanks. Who do you guys know that can install the Sako extractor on a bolt? The few gunsmiths I know either don’t do it or don’t have the confidence. One said he screwed up the last one and at the same time he showed me others he has done and the work and function look really good on them. I don’t understand. Also, do you have to have a recess or channel in the barrel to allow space for the extractor when it flexes open or closed?

Cahunter805 · Dec 20, 2021

Captain_coues said:
Thanks. Who do you guys know that can install the Sako extractor on a bolt? The few gunsmiths I know either don’t do it or don’t have the confidence. One said he screwed up the last one and at the same time he showed me others he has done and the work and function look really good on them. I don’t understand. Also, do you have to have a recess or channel in the barrel to allow space for the extractor when it flexes open or closed?

LRI has a Mini M16 and does the install on 223 size bolt face bolts.
Sometimes the counterbore on the barrel must be opened to allow the extractor to open properly but this is usually on the magnum bolt face.

GUNSMITHING SERVICES: AR-15/M-16 Extractor installation

The AR-15 /M-16 extractor upgrade for an M700 bolt is a very popular and almost required service for several applications. When working with magnum bolt face cartridges, the AR-15/M-16 extractor is almost a must-have as the riveted factory piece is prone to be problematic. The AR-15/M-16...

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feddoc · Dec 20, 2021

The extractor on my M700 failed 3 days prior to leaving for a trip...2003 or so. Lucky for me that my other bolt worked. I had the 'smith install a Sako extractor and never looked back....until the handle came off 2 years later.

hawkbill · Dec 20, 2021

I had a metal machinist install mine

hawkbill · Dec 20, 2021

I know a guy in Fairfield Idaho

Captain_coues · Dec 21, 2021

Cahunter805 said:
LRI has a Mini M16 and does the install on 223 size bolt face bolts.
Sometimes the counterbore on the barrel must be opened to allow the extractor to open properly but this is usually on the magnum bolt face.

GUNSMITHING SERVICES: AR-15/M-16 Extractor installation

The AR-15 /M-16 extractor upgrade for an M700 bolt is a very popular and almost required service for several applications. When working with magnum bolt face cartridges, the AR-15/M-16 extractor is almost a must-have as the riveted factory piece is prone to be problematic. The AR-15/M-16...

www.longriflesinc.com

Thanks for this and the explanation. I reached out to these people today and I’m waiting to hear back. I hope it’s just a matter of sending them the bolt and putting right back in the rifle after it’s done.

Cahunter805 · Dec 21, 2021

Captain_coues said:
Thanks for this and the explanation. I reached out to these people today and I’m waiting to hear back. I hope it’s just a matter of sending them the bolt and putting right back in the rifle after it’s done.

I’d just send them the barreled action and have them chamber the new barrel and true the action if you wanted to also.

Captain_coues · Dec 21, 2021

Cahunter805 said:
I’d just send them the barreled action and have them chamber the new barrel and true the action if you wanted to also.

That’s exactly what they said to do.

Tikka · Dec 22, 2021

LRI does fantastic work with fast turnaround time…

BigPig · Dec 24, 2021

The best fix for a Model 700 is to remove a zero!

Tikka · Dec 24, 2021

BigPig said:
The best fix for a Model 700 is to remove a zero!

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RELH · Dec 24, 2021

The extractor for the model 700 was one of it's weak points, the other is that flimsy recoil lug. Get rid of the extractor and have a gunsmith fit a Sako extractor to the bolt and your problems will go away. Almost forgot, the third weak point of the 700 was that bolt handle that was soldiered to the bolt. They should have used silver solder for a stronger joint.
RELH

Weiserbucks · Dec 25, 2021

RELH said:
Almost forgot, the third weak point of the 700 was that bolt handle that was soldiered to the bolt. They should have used silver solder for a stronger joint.
RELH

They should forget any solder process and TIG weld them on.

WapitiBob · Dec 25, 2021

Throw the rem action in the garbage and buy a custom. You can get a Kelby for $900 and go up from there. You'll have $500 into the old one after trueing, extractor, and a bolt that won't fall off. It took me a while and a bunch of $$ to finally figure it out. And the action will be spec so later you can just buy a barrel off the 'net and screw it on in your garage.

Captain_coues · Dec 29, 2021

Tikka said:
LRI does fantastic work with fast turnaround time…

I sent it to them yesterday. They seem real honest and helpful on the phone. I hope to get it back soon but I have waited long periods of time to get a rifle back before from others so it wouldn’t surprise me if it takes a while. I loaded up a bunch of different rounds and it’s killing me to not try them.

WapitiBob said:
Throw the rem action in the garbage and buy a custom. You can get a Kelby for $900 and go up from there. You'll have $500 into the old one after trueing, extractor, and a bolt that won't fall off. It took me a while and a bunch of $$ to finally figure it out. And the action will be spec so later you can just buy a barrel off the 'net and screw it on in your garage.

I agree that Remington is not the best out there. My next serious build will have something exotic on it. This rifle would need the whole set up to be something really nice and I’m not quite ready to go full on with a new build. I will keep most of it the same like typical rings and bases, scope, and the HS stock from Remington. I replaced the trigger with a trigger tech and along with the extractor and possibly ejector, that will be it until I burn the barrel out.

hawkbill · Dec 29, 2021

Please keep informed on progress and finish. I agree it’s hard to send something off to get fixed these days.

Weiserbucks · Dec 29, 2021

hawkbill said:
Please keep informed on progress and finish. I agree it’s hard to send something off to get fixed these days.

It's not hard at all when you deal with LRI. I've had them turn around simple work in one business day more than once. Earlier this year I commissioned LRI to build me a custom rifle to my exact specifications using nothing but custom parts. They finished the rifle in 29 calendar days.

Cahunter805 · Dec 29, 2021

Captain_coues said:
I sent it to them yesterday. They seem real honest and helpful on the phone. I hope to get it back soon but I have waited long periods of time to get a rifle back before from others so it wouldn’t surprise me if it takes a while. I loaded up a bunch of different rounds and it’s killing me to not try them.

I agree that Remington is not the best out there. My next serious build will have something exotic on it. This rifle would need the whole set up to be something really nice and I’m not quite ready to go full on with a new build. I will keep most of it the same like typical rings and bases, scope, and the HS stock from Remington. I replaced the trigger with a trigger tech and along with the extractor and possibly ejector, that will be it until I burn the barrel out.

Did you just send them the bolt for an extractor upgrade? If so I bet you will have it back within a week or so. Last bolt work they did for me was done and mailed out the next day after they received it.

Captain_coues · Dec 29, 2021

Cahunter805 said:
Did you just send them the bolt for an extractor upgrade? If so I bet you will have it back within a week or so. Last bolt work they did for me was done and mailed out the next day after they received it.

I sent them the whole rifle. I was going to take the barreled action off and send it but I hate doing that because I worry about the trigger being damaged in transport, losing hardware and thought it might be a good idea for them to have it in case I change my mind and want them to quote other work and then they can complete the whole deal. I save all of my rifle cases and cardboard boxes that they came in when I buy them so I was able to package it up real good with some of the items I have. I think I’m in for a wait. I talked to two different people over there and they both said that the mini extractors are at their subcontractor getting heat treated and with the holidays, it might be a few weeks or more. I like their honesty.

Cahunter805 · Dec 29, 2021

Captain_coues said:
I sent them the whole rifle. I was going to take the barreled action off and send it but I hate doing that because I worry about the trigger being damaged in transport, losing hardware and thought it might be a good idea for them to have it in case I change my mind and want them to quote other work and then they can complete the whole deal. I save all of my rifle cases and cardboard boxes that they came in when I buy them so I was able to package it up real good with some of the items I have. I think I’m in for a wait. I talked to two different people over there and they both said that the mini extractors are at their subcontractor getting heat treated and with the holidays, it might be a few weeks or more. I like their honesty.

If Chad has your complete rifle and not just the bolt Id be inclined to pickup a barrel blank and have it shipped to him and spun on. An 8 twist 223 would be quite fun.

Weiserbucks · Dec 29, 2021

Cahunter805 said:
If Chad has your complete rifle and not just the bolt Id be inclined to pickup a barrel blank and have it shipped to him and spun on. An 8 twist 223 would be quite fun.

Chad keeps K&P barrel blanks in stock if someone wants to go that route.

BigPig · Dec 29, 2021

And K&P are fantastic barrels!

hawkbill · Dec 29, 2021

You guys are talking me into something here

Captain_coues · Feb 4, 2022

They finished it. I will show all you people what it looks like and how it performs when I get it back. Hopefully late next week. Saturday is supposed to be nice here and I have some loads to try out.

Captain_coues · Feb 13, 2022

It came back on Friday. I didn’t get around to it until today. It appears they did a bang up job even with packing. I will put it together and if there’s enough daylight and not too much wind, I’ll shoot it today. If not, a real good session tomorrow since the super bowl is playing and that’s always fun.

RELH · Feb 13, 2022

You will like it as it will provide far better positive extraction of the fired cases.
RELH

deadibob · Feb 13, 2022

BigPig said:
The best fix for a Model 700 is to remove a zero!

That is the only fix for a Remington. If it ain't the extractor it's the trigger. If it ain't the trigger it's the bolt handle. If it ain't the bolt handle it's the cheap sloppy work that Remington passed onto shooters the last thirty years. If it ain't the piss-poor quality it's the way they don't stand behind their products when they are recalled. The best thing that could ever happen to Remington was the dissolution of them.

Captain_coues · Feb 14, 2022

I was able to shoot it yesterday. It did really well. I always shoot single shot and catch the casing when I eject it. I tried it without catching and it threw it pretty far, nothing like before. I had one problem with failure to eject with some factory Federal I was using to sight it in and it was also a misfire so I will inspect the cartridge more since it looks like maybe there’s more wrong with it that I need to find out. All of my reloads handled nicely.

Captain_coues · Oct 1, 2023

I ended up getting a new barrel and a few other things for the 223 from LRI. The other picture is what it was before. I will shoot it in the next few days. It’s blowing 90 to nothing here. I wish I could get a scope for it but I can’t afford what I want right now so I used the Zeiss from another gun I plan on selling. In the future I will get a real nice scope and rings for it and have a lot of fun. The barrel is a 1:10 twist because I plan on the 60-64 grain bullets. The cerakote is Tactical grey, trying to complement the grey in the stock.