DonVathome
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Do you think applying muzzleloader for Utak elk give you better draw odds? Are the elk still buggling and rutting?
Was that on a unit with general season muzzy deer hunt? Im sitting on 23 points for resident elk now. I hunted the Monroe deer muzzy hunt a few years ago just to see how that might look for elk muzzy. It looked like a cluster to me, but I think there was some kind of ATV rally going on. We did hear some bugles, and see a few elk, but I am not sure about dropping 23 points to deal with something like that. Granted, I was only there on opening weekend.Utah LE elk muzzy hunts are as good as it gets. My hunt in 2020 might be my favorite hunt of all time. Bulls bugling all night long before opening day and rutting hard during the hunt. I would burn points again on that hunt without any second thought.
If you have 23 LE bull points and put in for a muzz hunt you need your head examined.Was that on a unit with general season muzzy deer hunt? Im sitting on 23 points for resident elk now. I hunted the Monroe deer muzzy hunt a few years ago just to see how that might look for elk muzzy. It looked like a cluster to me, but I think there was some kind of ATV rally going on. We did hear some bugles, and see a few elk, but I am not sure about dropping 23 points to deal with something like that. Granted, I was only there on opening weekend.
Why?If you have 23 LE bull points and put in for a muzz hunt you need your head examined.
Depends if you want a tag or just a chance. Early rifle Monroe has 56 guys ahead of gundog and 41 in his group chasing 7 bonus tags. Muzz odds would be 1 in 2 for a bonus tag.If you have 23 LE bull points and put in for a muzz hunt you need your head examined.
You should have got to hunting about 15 years ago, and not wait 23 just to hunt with a rifle on the so called best unit.Why?
If you want to hunt one of the best units and can’t get the early rifle tag, why not go muzzy and get hunting?
If you can’t get it done with a muzzy on Utah’s best units, you probably didn’t work hard enough or want it bad enough.
A tag and a chance are the same thing. No tag is a guarantee.Depends if you want a tag or just a chance. Early rifle Monroe has 56 guys ahead of gundog and 41 in his group chasing 7 bonus tags. Muzz odds would be 1 in 2 for a bonus tag.
Great for you - may not apply to this guy with 23 points now. I am also in the camp of hunting now and not collecting bonus points forever, but maybe this guy wants to hunt Monroe rifle for sentimental or other reasons.You should have got to hunting about 15 years ago, and not wait 23 just to hunt with a rifle on the so called best unit.
Example, look at what just came off the north cache?
Really hard to say, but I don't think it will change much from previous years.Do you guys think there will be an influx of muzzleloader apps this year with the scope banning talk or do you think they will stay about the same. I'm still trying to pull a nonresident tag regardless of the scope situation
One of my friends shot a dang good bull on the San Juan muzzy hunt with help of BTO as I recall. It was worth every one of the 18 points he had, but I am still fighting point creep. I go hunting every year including upland, waterfowl, general season deer or elk, antlerless elk hunts, and occasional draw tags in other states. Taken a couple descent branch antler bulls (5 and 6 pointers), couple spikes, and a number of cow elk. Helped son and daughter hunt a couple draw tags. Fish a little bit, play hockey and do other things. It’s not like I‘m twiddling my thumbs waiting for my OIL Utah elk hunt and DBS, but definitely want to make the best of my points (23 each) if I can, before I get too old.If you have 23 LE bull points and put in for a muzz hunt you need your head examined.
There is talk about changing the muzzleloader scopes back to 1X like it used to be but I don’t think anything is officially even on the agenda yet.What years do the dates change? I made a mistake and burned 20 some points on CO deer 4th rifle, 2 years later the season dates were several days later. I need those few extra days. It made a massive difference.
Also what is the new scope rules talk? What might change about scopes? Any other possible changes for muzzleloader?
if you go to the rac agenda it shows they passed no scopes on Utah muzzy huntsThere is talk about changing the muzzleloader scopes back to 1X like it used to be but I don’t think anything is officially even on the agenda yet.
No wonder there is so much misinformation out there.if you go to the rac agenda it shows they passed no scopes on Utah muzzy hunts
thank you for the clarificationNo wonder there is so much misinformation out there.
There has been no change to magnifying/variable scopes on muzzys in Utah as of now. RAC’s are recommending bodies and don’t set rules for wildlife or hunting. Only the wildlife board can do that, and they have not changed anything as it relates to weapon restrictions or requirements for muzzleloaders.
Anywhere the Piute Trail goes through, you'll have non stop ATV's......it can be a nightmare.Was that on a unit with general season muzzy deer hunt? Im sitting on 23 points for resident elk now. I hunted the Monroe deer muzzy hunt a few years ago just to see how that might look for elk muzzy. It looked like a cluster to me, but I think there was some kind of ATV rally going on. We did hear some bugles, and see a few elk, but I am not sure about dropping 23 points to deal with something like that. Granted, I was only there on opening weekend.
Change that to any other ATV trail system in the state and you would be correct.Anywhere the Piute Trail goes through, you'll have non stop ATV's......it can be a nightmare.
Of course applying for the muzzleloader tag in any Utah unit gives you better draw odds than the rifle hunt!Do you think applying muzzleloader for Utak elk give you better draw odds? Are the elk still buggling and rutting?