Should Teachers Be Armed these days?

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Our 3 girls are teachers/coaches and are well trained with weapons. They have been from a very, very young age. Twice in the last 2 weeks their (our 2 youngest-twins) school has been on lock down due to a student having a weapon on campus and this is a newer part of town. These days in Vegas just like anywhere else, there is no safe area. My opinion is yes! I would rather they had a fighting chance than just be sitting ducks with nothing to protect themselves and their students. Thoughts????
 
Have you seen some of these teachers? If they pass a proficiency test, I’ll donate to a fund to buy them guns.

What does state law say about this? I suppose that’s gunna be the roadblock.
Agreed, and I did not think about funding. Yes, I have seen most of these teachers and they would sit there, do nothing and hope for the best if a active shooter showed up. Proficiency test here in southern Nevada-thing of the past.
 
Should they be allowed? Certainly.

My daughter is a first grade teacher. IMHO she is not prepared to shoot another person even though she has prepared herself for other actions. I don't consider it a failure on my part or hers.

If they are so inclined and feel capable of performing that action good on them.
 
Gonna SPLAIN Something To SS & BuzzH!

When We Went To School!

We Had Multiple Guns In Our Trucks & Some in the Gun Racks Parked On School Premises!

We Took Guns Inside The School!

We Took Them in to Wood Shop!

Tore Them Down!

Re-Finished Stocks!

Re-Blued the Metal!

Put Them Back Together!

Went Rabbit Hunting On Our Lunch Break!

Not A Sole Ever Got Hurt!

And There Wasn't a Sole In Our School That Was SKEERED!

Different Story Now Though!
 
You all ain't spent much time in schools lately. Hard pass on armed teachers.

Armed security, sure.
 
Give some of these liberal west coast teachers a gun and they would probably hurt more students or them selves than the shooter.
Actually I would not mind if a WELL trained teacher carried. They would have to be trained on a regular basis and carry the sidearm exposed for all to see. I think the visual sidearm would make a lot of students think twice about starting something.
 
Gonna SPLAIN Something To SS & BuzzH!

When We Went To School!

We Had Multiple Guns In Our Trucks & Some in the Gun Racks Parked On School Premises!

We Took Guns Inside The School!

We Took Them in to Wood Shop!

Tore Them Down!

Re-Finished Stocks!

Re-Blued the Metal!

Put Them Back Together!

Went Rabbit Hunting On Our Lunch Break!

Not A Sole Ever Got Hurt!

And There Wasn't a Sole In Our School That Was SKEERED!

Different Story Now Though!
I read that in a macho man randy savage voice. I imagine you’re wearing a bandana and sunglasses right now
 
Gonna SPLAIN Something To SS & BuzzH!

When We Went To School!

We Had Multiple Guns In Our Trucks & Some in the Gun Racks Parked On School Premises!

We Took Guns Inside The School!

We Took Them in to Wood Shop!

Tore Them Down!

Re-Finished Stocks!

Re-Blued the Metal!

Put Them Back Together!

Went Rabbit Hunting On Our Lunch Break!

Not A Sole Ever Got Hurt!

And There Wasn't a Sole In Our School That Was SKEERED!

Different Story Now Though!
What kind of soles were you running back then?
 
Zoom classes were an eye opener for parents.
Hosblur please explain

I know of several that pack at my local schools grade school through high school and I 100 percent support teachers packing.
Teachers packing is better idea than teachers seating on their hands hoping the shooter passes them buy.
We had a local guy that offered to buy a gun, ammo and training at a reputable self defense hand gun training center for several of the teachers in the school system.
 
Posting a few more "this is a gun free zone" signs should solve it. Never mind, I forgot they no longer teach kids how to read anymore. Yep teach the teachers how to shoot & let them carry
 
Seems it’s not a yes or no question.

Federal regulations, where one size fits all doesn’t seem to work for much of anything other than roads, phones, and our military. Maybe some others too but, I can see where there maybe a difference in local cultures and local circumstances, where it makes more sense to vary from one State, or county, or school district, or individual school, to use sufficient armed police on site, 24/7, where as, other schools it makes more sense to arm school teachers.

Probably should be a local decision based on the knowledge of the local people to decide for themselves how to “best” protect “their” children.

I don’t agree with the liability is reason for not arming teachers. Seems to me that’s like saying only a government agency is smart enough to provide responsibly protection for our kids. That’s socialism or worse imo. We’re already trading away way too many freedoms to saved us from ourselves. It’s a path to a place I never want to be again.
 
Zoom classes were an eye opener for parents.
Should be an eye opener for everyone.

The 2 “lost years” and God knows how many behaviorial issues……all because they had to stay home with their parents.

School is the best place and only chance for some kids.
 
The problem is MOST people including teachers absolutely melt in a high stress encounter like an active shooter. People think they can carry a gun and it will keep them safe but most civilians/teachers would get the gun taken from them and beat with it when it came down to it. If they really think they can handle it and commit to training a decent amount then do it.
This sites members are not a fair representation (and family members) of todays society however. Like my wife says, "you worry me, you can text me to say you killed a deer and 30 minutes later it is in pieces your clothes are changed and your not late for work."
 
Yes, they absolutely should be allowed to carry! More important they should be allowed to paddle these young brats when they disobey and talk back. A good paddling never hurt any of us old farts more than a few minutes but we learned how to behave in public. Getting a handle on behavior in the early grade would lessen the need for teachers to carry. I sure wish some things in this world could go back to the 50’s and 60’s!
 
I think SOME should be able to carry.
Not sure I'd want a gender perversion teacher packing.
They prolly wouldnt know what a gun is, they're not a
Gunsmith.
 
Our 3 girls are teachers/coaches and are well trained with weapons. They have been from a very, very young age. Twice in the last 2 weeks their (our 2 youngest-twins) school has been on lock down due to a student having a weapon on campus and this is a newer part of town. These days in Vegas just like anywhere else, there is no safe area. My opinion is yes! I would rather they had a fighting chance than just be sitting ducks with nothing to protect themselves and their students. Thoughts????
Everybody should be armed. I don’t leave the house without a gun. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. As far as liability goes, it’s better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
 
The problem is MOST people including teachers absolutely melt in a high stress encounter like an active shooter. People think they can carry a gun and it will keep them safe but most civilians/teachers would get the gun taken from them and beat with it when it came down to it. If they really think they can handle it and commit to training a decent amount then do it.
This sites members are not a fair representation (and family members) of todays society however. Like my wife says, "you worry me, you can text me to say you killed a deer and 30 minutes later it is in pieces your clothes are changed and your not late for work."
Can you cite your source on “MOST” people please?
 
Forget about California teachers packing. Instead of defunding the police, California needs to have a serious discussion about defunding the public education system.
 
Many years of work experience
That’s also where I draw my conclusion, many years of work experience. Where I live I believe many people wouldn’t cave under stress in an active shooter situation. I’ve taught and coordinated active shooter classes to local, county, State and federal law enforcement agencies. Many civilians I know wouldn’t fold under that type of pressure either. Grant it some would, it’s been documented some seasoned officers do also. Look at that Sheriffs Deputy/SchoolResource Officer in Florida who said he heard the gunshots coming from inside the school and waited for backup to arrive. Pathetic…
 
I had a talk with a sheriff deputy about armed teachers. He said in an active shooter situation, officers are going to take out anyone with a gun. Shoot first, ask questions later. You never know if the shooter is the teacher. If a teacher decides to carry, they might not want to pursue the shooter. Just stay in the class room and protect their own students.

No school shootings have been perpetuated by teachers yet. I know a few teachers would scare me to learn they have a gun in the classroom. However I know several that might be a great asset with one. Properly trained though.
 
The district in which I teach passed it a few years ago that teachers can carry. There is an application/screener they must fill out, then the expectations are:

1. Must have taught in the district at least 5 years and have good standing.

2. Teacher will be covered under the districts liability insurance policy.

3. Teacher's appliaction can be approved or denided.

4. Teacher must have a valid concealed carry permit.

5. Teacher must undergo a family services screening.

6. Teacher must have a psychological exam.

7. Initial training will be 16 hours of handgun training and an additional 8 hours of scenario training which will include active shooter situations and hostage situations. Also non-lethal training.

8. All training, curriculum, and the instructor will be approved by local law enforcement. Someone with 10+ years of law enforcement or military training/experience.

9. Teacher must have an annual renewal which includes:
a. Inspection of holster, gun and ammo by law enforcement.
b. Annual hourly training of 18 hours with law
enforcement/participation in law enforcement training.

10. Teacher must have drug and alcohol tests at random.

11. Firearm must be on person at all times or in a lock box or
biometric container.

12. Teacher will pay all expenses for gun, ammo and training.

13. All teachers that carry will be kept confidential.

That's the jist of it. There are many many more pages of legal jaron in our policy.

I have no idea how many teachers carry in my school district.

These signs are posted on our schools here.


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The district in which I teach passed it a few years ago that teachers can carry. There is an application/screener they must fill out, then the expectations are:

1. Must have taught in the district at least 5 years and have good standing.

2. Teacher will be covered under the districts liability insurance policy.

3. Teacher's appliaction can be approved or denided.

4. Teacher must have a valid concealed carry permit.

5. Teacher must undergo a family services screening.

6. Teachr must have a psychological exam.

7. Initial training will be 16 hours of handgun training and an additional 8 hours of scenario training which will include active shooter situations and hostage situations. Also non-lethal training.

8. All training, curriculum, and the instructor will be approved by local law enforcement. Someone with 10+ years of law enforcement or military training/experience.

9. Teacher must have an annual renewal which includes:
a. Inspection of holster, gun and ammo by law enforcement.
b. Annual hourly training of 18 hours with law
enforcement/participation in law enforcement training.

10. Teacher must have drug and alcohol tests at random.

11. Firearm must be on person at all times or in a lock box or
biometric container.

12. Teacher will pay all expenses for gun, ammo and training.

13. All teachers that carry will be kept confidential.

That's the jist of it. There are many many more pages of legal jaron in our policy.

I have no idea how many teachers carry in my school district.

These signs are posted on our schools here.


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This should be done just to be a teacher!! Remove a few procedural firearm questions and it all makes sense.
 
I had a talk with a sheriff deputy about armed teachers. He said in an active shooter situation, officers are going to take out anyone with a gun. Shoot first, ask questions later. You never know if the shooter is the teacher. If a teacher decides to carry, they might not want to pursue the shooter. Just stay in the class room and protect their own students.

No school shootings have been perpetuated by teachers yet. I know a few teachers would scare me to learn they have a gun in the classroom. However I know several that might be a great asset with one. Properly trained though.
You are ultimately responsible for your own safety in this country. I carry a gun because a Police Officer is too heavy to carry around all day. You have some schools in this country where a Police response is over 30 minutes away. Shelter in place is not feasible.
 
You are ultimately responsible for your own safety in this country. I carry a gun because a Police Officer is too heavy to carry around all day. You have some schools in this country where a Police response is over 30 minutes away. Shelter in place is not feasible.
That sucks you live in fear all the time boomer
 
yeah, teachers didn't get into the profession to carry a gun and id venture to say well over 90% of them have no exposure to fire arms or desire to. teachers teach because they felt called to teach kids. or at least they used to. now theirs a large faction with political and social objectives that have nothing to do with helping kids become adults but id say their even more of a group that should be no where near a fire arm.

armed security yes. people that go into that profession are pre disposition'd for that responsibility. and now most schools have an officer on grounds . maybe the standard should be 2 or 3 depending on the school.

what should really be the focus is getting teachers back to being teachers. not activist in 2nd grade class rooms
 
Speaking for myself only. This boomer doesn't live in fear all the time, but I still wear a seat belt when I drive and have a fire insurance policy on my house, and I carry concealed when go to sketchy places. It's just like a cheap insurance policy that I hope I never need.
Wtf are you doing going to sketchy places?
 
yeah, teachers didn't get into the profession to carry a gun and id venture to say well over 90% of them have no exposure to fire arms or desire to. teachers teach because they felt called to teach kids. or at least they used to. now theirs a large faction with political and social objectives that have nothing to do with helping kids become adults but id say their even more of a group that should be no where near a fire arm.

armed security yes. people that go into that profession are pre disposition'd for that responsibility. and now most schools have an officer on grounds . maybe the standard should be 2 or 3 depending on the school.

what should really be the focus is getting teachers back to being teachers. not activist in 2nd grade class rooms
Teachers should have the same rights as hunters. If they want to carry and are qualified to carry they should be allowed to carry. Policing is not what it used to be, there are not near enough candidates for positions. The standards have been lowered so much that they would even take SS right now as long as he’s breathing. I live near a town of about 50,000 people and they average fielding 4 officers for a day shift. They like many others are constantly hiring.
 
Teachers should have the same rights as hunters. If they want to carry and are qualified to carry they should be allowed to carry. Policing is not what it used to be, there are not near enough candidates for positions. The standards have been lowered so much that they would even take SS right now as long as he’s breathing. I live near a town of about 50,000 people and they average fielding 4 officers for a day shift. They like many others are constantly hiring.
I’m not racist enough to be a cop
 
Some yes, some no. My SIL teaches 3rd grade or something like that and is one of those that shouldn't. She is not comfortable around firearms and wouldn't have it in her to shoot someone a fight or flight incident. And that's fine.
 
Some yes, some no. My SIL teaches 3rd grade or something like that and is one of those that shouldn't. She is not comfortable around firearms and wouldn't have it in her to shoot someone a fight or flight incident. And that's fine.
I agree. And like some like to think, guns don't solve any problems. mtmuley
 
My opinion-No sense of talking about how things should be or how they used to be. It's too late and over with and where we are is not going to change. My wife and I always told our kids teachers the same thing my parents did-If our kids give you any problems, feel free to whip their --- and we will do the same when they get home! Those days seem to be long gone and not coming back. The school district our girls went through and are now teaching in is a very violent atmosphere. Our school district here in Vegas has a Police Department with more officers than most small towns have, and they can barely keep up.

I am all for teachers having weapons in class as long as they have been through proper training. If anyone one of our 3 girls were to be hunkered down in a classroom trying to protect their students and an active shooter came in- I am confident they would have the mental trigger to defend their students and themselves. I would much rather this was the case instead of them not having the option and just be sitting ducks. Yes, teachers should be focused on educating their students rather than worrying about how to defend them and in some places that still might be the case.
 
HINT dude:

They've Needed to for a Long Time Now!

Wait Till The Next 2 Generations Show Up!

I'm not opposed to qualified teachers carrying. but what the hell does it say about our society if they need to. maybe that should get as much attention as choosing the right holster.
 
I don’t disagree with teachers carrying. Most every teacher I had in school I would trust. With that being said. Every single teacher I know that is close to my age. would f up any situation that had stress any where near it.
 
Kids learn from adults. Not a very long trip to figure out how violence in schools got there.

The sooner people learn to kick politicians out of their lives the better. They want to teach destruction of the family unit? Tell them to pound sand. They want to tell parents it's none of their business that they are brainwashing our youth in gender confusion? Tell them to pound sand. They want to send a court order against you for that? Tell the DA and judge to pound sand...
 
I don't think kids tolerating fags makes them violent. if you don't like the teachers at public school home school your kids or send them to a private school. because what you have is what you get teaching isn't a job most Massad agents moonlight at.

Most the teachers I know are not the kind of people who should be handling guns around a bunch of kids. so if you put them in a position they need to fight for their lives be prepared for less than ideal results.
 
Maybe It Should Be a Requirement!

If They Can Handle Kids!

They Damn Well Oughta Be Able To Handle a Gun!

And dude?

Maybe They Should Have a Hidden Compartment in their Desk that has a BLACK Gun in it!





I don't think kids tolerating fags makes them violent. if you don't like the teachers at public school home school your kids or send them to a private school. because what you have is what you get teaching isn't a job most Massad agents moonlight at.

Most the teachers I know are not the kind of people who should be handling guns around a bunch of kids. so if you put them in a position they need to fight for their lives be prepared for less than ideal results.
 
And One More F'N Thing TOGPOTEE!

I Don't Have a Problem With People Home-Schooling Their Kids!

The Problem I Have With it is Booting Them Kids out in to Society & They Ain't Got a Clue!
 
Of course, some are competent. I had a grade school teacher who fought on Iwo Jima. but the average teacher is more likely to wear Birkenstocks and drive a Subaru.

Point is they hired on to teach kids not engage in a fire fight. so if any teacher is going to carry they should have to pass some type of serious qualification coarse it would seem to me.

Or just hire competent security to defend schools like we would if there was anything of value inside. like I said, it says something about our society that we've devolved to this. even worse that we accept it.
 
I don't think kids tolerating fags makes them violent. if you don't like the teachers at public school home school your kids or send them to a private school. because what you have is what you get teaching isn't a job most Massad agents moonlight at.

Most the teachers I know are not the kind of people who should be handling guns around a bunch of kids. so if you put them in a position they need to fight for their lives be prepared for less than ideal results.

It's not the kids. It's those who teach them to be intolerant of what they disagree with.
 
I don't think kids tolerating fags makes them violent. if you don't like the teachers at public school home school your kids or send them to a private school. because what you have is what you get teaching isn't a job most Massad agents moonlight at.

Most the teachers I know are not the kind of people who should be handling guns around a bunch of kids. so if you put them in a position they need to fight for their lives be prepared for less than ideal results.
Less than ideal results? I reckon that beats, oh shyt, I’m not armed, my kids are getting killed and I’m getting shot at and I can’t out run these bullets. But I know where the phone is so as soon as I get to it the Police will be on their way. Maybe he will stop killing us until they arrive, Right? ……

Most teachers are smart. If you can learn to shoot and defend yourself so can they. Of course if would be voluntary like it is for you and me.
 
Arming a select few qualified teachers wouldn't hurt at all, but it's still treating the symptom and not the disease. Don't expect the problem to go away. School bus drivers might be next to be armed.
 
Arming a select few qualified teachers wouldn't hurt at all, but it's still treating the symptom and not the disease. Don't expect the problem to go away. School bus drivers might be next to be armed.

I would say the virus needs the treatment because we are already dealing with the disease...
 
1/2 of the guys I hunt with are teachers. They grew up using guns. I would trust them to carry a gun in school.
How many of those guys are still in education. Sure feels like 'those guys' are gradually being steered away (one way or another) from education. I spent over 2 decades in a public school. During that time there was an observable decrease in the percentage of teachers I'd expect would step up to defend a child's life directly or passively.
 
It's not a matter of intent it's a matter of competence. there isn't a teacher anywhere who wouldn't want to defend their students. but could they ? you have some millennial chic freak out and pull out a Sig and start spraying bullets in the direction of a kid with a squirt gun and then what ? oh well you can't win them all.

You give everyone hand grenades and someone's going to get blown up. guns are the same thing. we've proven more guns don't reduce gun violence already so doubling down on a debunked sales pitch isn't going to change the results.

But again, guns in the hands of qualified teachers who've proven their capability would probably do more good than harm. why not lots of raghead teachers in the middle east carry guns and that's where we're headed.
 
we've proven more guns don't reduce gun violence already so doubling down on a debunked sales pitch isn't going to change the results.

We've also proven the removal of guns don't end violence. Violence ends at home when the kids are taught at a young age before they even get to school where it is only enhanced from that point forward because other kids are taught in the home.

If people want to end school violence, then it needs to be stopped at the root cause beginning with the lawyer that argues the case and gets a violent offender off or a greatly reduced sentence because they twisted words and fooled a jury, and second, the judge that issues a lightened sentence. Third, the politician that releases the violent offender early.
 
Gonna SPLAIN Something To SS & BuzzH!

When We Went To School!

We Had Multiple Guns In Our Trucks & Some in the Gun Racks Parked On School Premises!

We Took Guns Inside The School!

We Took Them in to Wood Shop!

Tore Them Down!

Re-Finished Stocks!

Re-Blued the Metal!

Put Them Back Together!

Went Rabbit Hunting On Our Lunch Break!

Not A Sole Ever Got Hurt!

And There Wasn't a Sole In Our School That Was SKEERED!

Different Story Now Though!
I’m pretty sure I go to one of the only high schools in the state that’s still this way elk. All of us country kids have our parking lot and you could go out there right now and find at least 15 in our trucks I’ll bet. That said I wouldn’t be surprised if there were teachers at this school that had a gun somewhere in the classroom. But the ones that would have a gun are ones that I would feel good with them having and trust to use them properly.
 
It's not a matter of intent it's a matter of competence. there isn't a teacher anywhere who wouldn't want to defend their students. but could they ? you have some millennial chic freak out and pull out a Sig and start spraying bullets in the direction of a kid with a squirt gun and then what ? oh well you can't win them all.

You give everyone hand grenades and someone's going to get blown up. guns are the same thing. we've proven more guns don't reduce gun violence already so doubling down on a debunked sales pitch isn't going to change the results.

But again, guns in the hands of qualified teachers who've proven their capability would probably do more good than harm. why not lots of raghead teachers in the middle east carry guns and that's where we're headed.
I agree with most of this......I think this type of sign would work great with or without it being true...

 
It's not a matter of intent it's a matter of competence. there isn't a teacher anywhere who wouldn't want to defend their students. but could they ? you have some millennial chic freak out and pull out a Sig and start spraying bullets in the direction of a kid with a squirt gun and then what ? oh well you can't win them all.

You give everyone hand grenades and someone's going to get blown up. guns are the same thing. we've proven more guns don't reduce gun violence already so doubling down on a debunked sales pitch isn't going to change the results.

But again, guns in the hands of qualified teachers who've proven their capability would probably do more good than harm. why not lots of raghead teachers in the middle east carry guns and that's where we're headed.
“more guns don’t reduce gun violence”

If you get a chance read “More Guns, Less Crime” by John Lott.
 
In The Last Few Years There has Been People Buying Guns That Didn't Even Know What Guns Were!

You Can Cuss TARDville All You Want!

But I'll Bet Per Capita there Ain't Many States Sitting On More Guns & Ammo Anywhere!

Tell a TARD He Can't &...................................!
 
yeah, teachers didn't get into the profession to carry a gun and id venture to say well over 90% of them have no exposure to fire arms or desire to. teachers teach because they felt called to teach kids. or at least they used to. now theirs a large faction with political and social objectives that have nothing to do with helping kids become adults but id say their even more of a group that should be no where near a fire arm.

armed security yes. people that go into that profession are pre disposition'd for that responsibility. and now most schools have an officer on grounds . maybe the standard should be 2 or 3 depending on the school.

what should really be the focus is getting teachers back to being teachers. not activist in 2nd grade class rooms
Most schools have officers on their grounds? Have anything to back up that statement?
I would guess that it's a challenge to focus on teaching if you're worried about the chance of getting shot or the crap beat outta ya.
But Idaho may be different
 
Most schools have officers on their grounds? Have anything to back up that statement?
I would guess that it's a challenge to focus on teaching if you're worried about the chance of getting shot or the crap beat outta ya.
But Idaho may be different
A little research will prove that statement is true. Most secondary schools have officers on campus. Our smaller rural high school has one. He's the guy I asked about armed teachers. Refer to my earlier post. There is much more to his job than just being there to prevent a shooting. He teaches criminal justice, busts kids for driving to school before they had a license (common with farm kids, haha), handles students who break laws, etc.
 
back it up? every school my kids have gone for to for the last 20 years i guess. my sister being a teacher and there always being a school resource officer on the grounds. pretty sure most major city school districts and precincts having this relationship. id guess not all schools have them full time but have an officer that include the school in there patrol. increasing that, in my opinion, is a far more viable and achievable solution to getting a bunch of granola crunching teachers to learn proficiency in fire arms and using them in a life threatening situation. dont you think?
 
A little research will prove that statement is true. Most secondary schools have officers on campus. Our smaller rural high school has one. He's the guy I asked about armed teachers. Refer to my earlier post. There is much more to his job than just being there to prevent a shooting. He teaches criminal justice, busts kids for driving to school before they had a license (common with farm kids, haha), handles students who break laws, etc.
Funny part was his daughter drove herself to drivers Ed. Most of us here have been driving long before we were 16 though.
 
These small towns have the elementary, Junior High and High School buildings right next to each other. That’s roughly 500 students on average from pre K to 12th grade in a town of less than 2,000 people here in NM. Even if there was one resource officer on duty you could potentially have dozens of children and some teachers killed before he could respond. These small towns just don’t have the tax money to adequately provide security to their towns let alone their schools. Most small towns here have ONE Police Officer and he could live miles away in a larger city. Response time is many minutes away where seconds count. I say arm those qualified who want to be armed.
 
These small towns have the elementary, Junior High and High School buildings right next to each other. That’s roughly 500 students on average from pre K to 12th grade in a town of less than 2,000 people here in NM. Even if there was one resource officer on duty you could potentially have dozens of children and some teachers killed before he could respond. These small towns just don’t have the tax money to adequately provide security to their towns let alone their schools. Most small towns here have ONE Police Officer and he could live miles away in a larger city. Response time is many minutes away where seconds count. I say arm those qualified who want to be armed.
that was my point.....those small towns are full of self sufficient people...
 
that was my point.....those small towns are full of self sufficient people...
Being self sufficient and unarmed is two different things. All these schools plaster signs on their entrances that say drug free/firearms free school, like that means anything…..
 
These small towns have the elementary, Junior High and High School buildings right next to each other. That’s roughly 500 students on average from pre K to 12th grade in a town of less than 2,000 people here in NM. Even if there was one resource officer on duty you could potentially have dozens of children and some teachers killed before he could respond. These small towns just don’t have the tax money to adequately provide security to their towns let alone their schools. Most small towns here have ONE Police Officer and he could live miles away in a larger city. Response time is many minutes away where seconds count. I say arm those qualified who want to be armed.
Let’s see. Spend tens?hundreds? of thousands training and arming people who have no interest in being trained or armed ( state employees remember) or spend that money hiring a few more cops per town. What do you thinks a more realistic solution?
 
Let’s see. Spend tens?hundreds? of thousands training and arming people who have no interest in being trained or armed ( state employees remember) or spend that money hiring a few more cops per town. What do you thinks a more realistic solution?
Like I previously stated, if they are qualified and volunteer.

State Police are State employees.

Easy answer to your question. Train teachers, spend the money once, then spend substantially less on yearly or bi-yearly recertification. Not near the money you have to pay to train a Police Officer for months at an academy, continue to train that Police Officer monthly, health and insurance benefits, Night Differential, Sunday Pay, Holiday Pay, sick leave, uniform allowance, take home vehicle, and his monthly salary. Yep no doubt you’re saving literally hundreds of thousands of dollars over a career if you just train a teacher.
 

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