Dan Prenzlow

LAST EDITED ON May-23-19 AT 06:18PM (MST)[p]Know him very well, he was my dads college roommate and he was the head of the meeker office when I was growing up. Probably the only smart thing Polis has done so far for Colorado.
Coloradoboy
 
Congratulations and good luck to the new Boss in an extremely difficult position. In reading the language from the Board and others in the linked article, it is not 100% supportive and encouraging, perhaps revealing dissenting factions in the CPW. Think I'm imagining that?
 
Perfection when speaking in front of a group can be difficult, and is a high bar. Ask any politician. But there are different standards it seems, no?
 
In todays woke world it is difficult to really know what happened. If it was meant as a racist comment, then putting him on administrative leave is appropriate. My guess is that he said something that was misunderstood by someone who is ultra sensitive or has an agenda but I don't really know because I wasn't there.
 
Let’s face it, for the last 60 years, courts have allowed people to file and win, absurd law suits…….. thus…… thousands if not millions of people are constantly looking for an opportunity to hang one on, if not dozens. This current barrage is the current darling of the……..sewers to get a lick in.
 
The guy yelled out “there she is, at the back of the bus” to a black woman in an auditorium into the microphone. That wasn’t taken wrong or people being extra sensitive. That was stupid, and racist and he needs to find a new job that can be done by a stupid racist, it’s that simple. I’m not “woke”, I’m not a liberal, I’m just a guy who’s not an A hole with a shred of common sense and human decency.
 
The guy yelled out “there she is, at the back of the bus” to a black woman in an auditorium into the microphone. That wasn’t taken wrong or people being extra sensitive. That was stupid, and racist and he needs to find a new job that can be done by a stupid racist, it’s that simple. I’m not “woke”, I’m not a liberal, I’m just a guy who’s not an A hole with a shred of common sense and human decency.
Okay………..
 
Interesting..
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Call me a skeptic but why would someone with an axe to grind write stuff like that at the risk of screwing up the end game? I hope I'm wrong, and she did write that stuff, but in Colorado it might not matter anyway.
 
...it was misunderstood by someone looking for something to
I don’t have the exact source but this has been sent to me by multiple people throughout the state today.
Co boy, your dad knew him so maybe he could shine some light on the character? I think some people will see “racism” around every corner lots of times things may not translate well, between generational gaps and or totally different upbringings, I take it the lady did not grow up in rural Co, participating in outdoor pursuits. I find the claim of someone “using the N word” liberally suspect, if you work for the gov and throw it around you are both a racist and a complete and total idiot. I don’t think you would have a position for long, let along rise to a position of prominence
 
Call me a skeptic but why would someone with an axe to grind write stuff like that at the risk of screwing up the end game? I hope I'm wrong, and she did write that stuff, but in Colorado it might not matter anyway.
lol...black woman can say whatever they want....zero ramifications...
 
Nothing surprises me much with political matter much anymore when it comes to Colorado. However I question the credibility of theses “emails”. However I do feel the woman is using what happened as an upper hand to further an agenda regardless with a person like Prenzlow on the hook. Dan stuck his foot in his mouth on this one. A person in such a position has to be calculated and politically correct at all times with their words and their actions, especially in this day in age. I’ve know him my entire life and our families have been friends for 40 plus years now and Ive never known or seen him to be a “racist” sad to see his career potentially end this way and the current path/direction cpw and wildlife management in this state is headed.
 
Nothing surprises me much with political matter much anymore when it comes to Colorado. However I question the credibility of theses “emails”. However I do feel the woman is using what happened as an upper hand to further an agenda regardless with a person like Prenzlow on the hook. Dan stuck his foot in his mouth on this one. A person in such a position has to be calculated and politically correct at all times with their words and their actions, especially in this day in age. I’ve know him my entire life and our families have been friends for 40 plus years now and Ive never known or seen him to be a “racist” sad to see his career potentially end this way and the current path/direction cpw and wildlife management in this state is headed.
You could rephrase that and say that “you’ve never known or seen him to be a “racist” until now”.
This is a scary world we live in where someone’s claim can be all it takes to take someone down (ex. this Johnny Depo fiasco) but in this case, it’s not her word against his, he said some seriously stupid stuff, and regardless of how people want to portray it in their minds to make themselves feel better, it was racist as he ll. Like I said in my post, there are jobs out there for people who are stupid enough to make comments like that, and also non racist applicants out there that can do his job just fine.
 
Chances are, she didn’t make those remarks. The internet is the internet
If it’s a given he said it, why is she asking for evidence?

Should be easy enough to verify. If authentic, she needs to be relieved of whatever duties she has anywhere forever.

This story is hard to believe, so I remain somewhat skeptical.
 
Any word on the Prenzlow situation? Also what's the skinny on Heather Dugan as far as being pro-hunting or not?
 
I just read her bio on CPW page, sounds like she did most her work with the parks side of things, went to CSU in 1992 for wildlife biology… CSU has changed a bit since I went there back in 2008 but my guess is that back in 1992 it was far more conservative and pro hunter. Heck Fort Collins used to be really conservative and pro hunter part of the state up until the last 10 years or so
 
I see a glass house around you. No, you are not in his position, but everyone makes stupid mistakes. Everyone. He tried to make a joke and, no question, it was NOT the right thing to do. The question would be: is he racist. If so, and there is a pattern, then he should go. If this is a one time extremely stupid mistake, he should get reprimanded and keep on trucking.

That is why not many people actually run for office/ work for government. You are under a microscope all the time
 
I see a glass house around you. No, you are not in his position, but everyone makes stupid mistakes. Everyone. He tried to make a joke and, no question, it was NOT the right thing to do. The question would be: is he racist. If so, and there is a pattern, then he should go. If this is a one time extremely stupid mistake, he should get reprimanded and keep on trucking.
What???? You mean deal with the incident using common sense, instead of creating another Virtue-Signaling opportunity? Shame on you!
 
I see a glass house around you. No, you are not in his position, but everyone makes stupid mistakes. Everyone. He tried to make a joke and, no question, it was NOT the right thing to do. The question would be: is he racist. If so, and there is a pattern, then he should go. If this is a one time extremely stupid mistake, he should get reprimanded and keep on trucking.

That is why not many people actually run for office/ work for government. You are under a microscope all the time
I don't disagree with what you're saying IF we are talking about someone who isn't in charge of an entire organization, while drawing a six figure, tax payer funded salary. He sets the tone for how things operate there. I wasn't in the room, so I cannot discern the context in which that comment was made, but the fact is if you are a person in a position like that you cannot allow yourself to be dragged into situations like this by saying something so utterly stupid. Especially in the world we live in today. Circling back to my original point, if you do in fact lack the ability to draw that line, you have zero business being in charge of anything.
 
How about a little more red meat for those of us not on the bus. :devilish:

After the “back of the bus” remark, Lee sent a message on the conference app for all 600 attendees to read, addressed to Prenzlow.

“The kindest and most heartfelt thing I could ever say to you is: (expletive) you,” Lee wrote in the message, which was reviewed by The Post. “I do pray you shove that (expletive) apology so far up your (expletive) that it hits the hatred and racism where your soul used to be.”

That message, she said by phone Thursday, was simply an honest response.

“He can take a couple (expletive)-yous and be OK,” Lee said.

Since going public in late April, Lee says “it’s been rough.” She stopped checking her email as she continues to get racist messages.
Lee said she holds little hope that the investigation will truly hold anyone accountable.

“The government has not been in favor of Black women so I don’t expect them to be on my side now,” she said.

Lee, after the conference, sent an open letter to Gov. Jared Polis, the Colorado General Assembly and Colorado Parks and Wildlife’s board of directors, demanding Prenzlow’s firing, along with myriad changes to the department’s whistleblower policies, hiring practices and pay disparities
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I’m firmly in Prenzlows camp these days. Keep those cards and letters coming.
 
If you’re not smart enough to not say something like that, you have no business being in charge of anything.
Having spoken in front of large groups many times, my experience is that it’s quite difficult to avoid little slip ups like this. To me, the rehearsed stuff was always easier than the ad libbed stuff like when you get handed a piece of paper with a list of names to say something nice about.

To complete a career without offending anyone is quite an accomplishment. Especially with people who are obvious troublemakers (no doubt hired by someone else).
 
Had an eighteen year stint as a public employee……tired my best to keep both feet out of my mouth, do the job to the best of my ability, conduct my interactions with both the public, my immediate an my secondary bosses and the staff that worked directly under me with fairness and respects. I failed with the public, my bosses secondary bosses, and with my immediate staff. By the time 18 years had passed, every entity I dealt with was more that happy to see me leave. As was I.

Too many daily/hourly/weekly/monthly/yearly issues that “have to be dealt with” to every avoided stepping in it, no matter how hard you try or even don’t try. Many people, many issues, many options, many failures. Will never be any other way.

Don’t believe it……. ask a modern Russian General……..let alone a free wheeling independent minded, problem solver. impossible to do a job without eventually offending everyone……at one time or another.
 
GMAFB, Dan is hardly racist and had a bad slip of the lip. F'n lynch mob liberal mentality. Quite common and growing more common in Colorado. Move on....
 
I don't disagree with what you're saying IF we are talking about someone who isn't in charge of an entire organization, while drawing a six figure, tax payer funded salary. He sets the tone for how things operate there. I wasn't in the room, so I cannot discern the context in which that comment was made, but the fact is if you are a person in a position like that you cannot allow yourself to be dragged into situations like this by saying something so utterly stupid. Especially in the world we live in today. Circling back to my original point, if you do in fact lack the ability to draw that line, you have zero business being in charge of anything.
What about our president? Or does literally being senile get him out of that?
 
Enter his super liberal environmentalist replacement. This one's gonna hurt unless by the far chance unless Polis doesn't get reelected.
 
5-alarm dumpster fire. This one will chap your hide - don’t read it if you’re in a foul mood. It makes me so mad I don’t even want to cut and paste. :mad:

The western slope needs to secede :mad:

 
The whole thing was a big woke witch hunt! Disgusting, what a load of crock. Sounds like we lost some really good people who were fighting for hunters and habitat to someone who wanted to find racism everywhere…
 
WAFJ!! Typical environmental librard activities. I deal with these activist daily and this is to be expected. Polis has another 4 yrs so stay tuned.
 
I'm ok not getting the National Enquire Front Range liberal socialist news. Chit our local NW Colorado news source is TERRIBLE liberal. Terrible!!!!
 

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