Yet another school shooting

So your theory is if teachers pack only a dozen kids would have been killed ? is that the number we should find acceptable ? if not what is the acceptable number ? because unless you want teachers dusting anyone who looks suspicious there's going to be a body count.

I don't claim to have a solution and I'm not going to make excuses or offer dumb ideas like every teach be SWAT certified . so now this is the future of America and it only gets worse from here, where it happened and the body count are all it's going to be about.

Should be a fun NRA convention in Houston this week.
 
So your theory is if teachers pack only a dozen kids would have been killed ? is that the number we should find acceptable ? if not what is the acceptable number ? because unless you want teachers dusting anyone who looks suspicious there's going to be a body count.

I don't claim to have a solution and I'm not going to make excuses or offer dumb ideas like every teach be SWAT certified . so now this is the future of America and it only gets worse from here, where it happened and the body count are all it's going to be about.

Should be a fun NRA convention in Houston this week.
You learned gun safety, you learned how to put lead on a target, you know when to shoot and when not to shoot, right? If you can do it why can’t a teacher who wants to learn how to do it do it?
 
So your theory is if teachers pack only a dozen kids would have been killed ? is that the number we should find acceptable ? if not what is the acceptable number ? because unless you want teachers dusting anyone who looks suspicious there's going to be a body count.

I don't claim to have a solution and I'm not going to make excuses or offer dumb ideas like every teach be SWAT certified . so now this is the future of America and it only gets worse from here, where it happened and the body count are all it's going to be about.

Should be a fun NRA convention in Houston this week.
Why in your Brandon mind does there have to be a number? If it saved one single life it would have been worth it!
 
In 95% of these type of shootings - 1. the shooter had a social media presence forecasting his intentions - 2. was known to parents & authorities to be psychotic and or dangerous - 3. nothing was done by those that knew of the 2 points above. I'd be surprised if both of the above wasn't the case here
 
Very sad and unimaginable! Teachers should pack in my opinion.
I started this post a while back and yes, it is sad that we have to think this way. It hits home as all 3 of our daughters are teachers and coaches. These school shooting are here to stay! I would much rather my 3 girls had the option to protect their students and themselves rather than sitting ducks with no options. There might be some places in our great country that this way of thinking is not needed but here in Vegas and many other places-it's absolutely necessary. Our 3 have more training and experience with handguns than their parents and I do feel that training of course should be mandatory. I don't know for sure if what I just wrote and how I feel about all of this would have helped in Texas or not but-we are now missing 18 kids and 3 adults that should be at home for dinner and wondering what they are going to accomplish tomorrow!!
 
For me this proves that absolute Evil walks the streets with us.
And further punctuates the need to arm myself,,,,with ever
increasing high capacity mags.
I cannot imagine the pain those families are going through.
God Bless Them.
A senseless crime committed by an animal.
 
For me this proves that absolute Evil walks the streets with us.
And further punctuates the need to arm myself,,,,with ever
increasing high capacity mags.
I cannot imagine the pain those families are going through.
God Bless Them.
A senseless crime committed by an animal.
That is why a carry every day everywhere.
 
Most teachers aren't competent and even if they were they didn't sign up for combat duty. I'm not against qualified teachers packing but the fact is this isn't a solution for a host of reasons.

The radio said this kid just turned 18 and legally bought himself a couple man cards for his birthday. if this is true the excuse machine better get a shot of nitrous .

Now we watch for the next one and see where and how many get smoked. we're averaging one a week so we won't have to wait long for the answer.
 
So your theory is if teachers pack only a dozen kids would have been killed ? is that the number we should find acceptable ? if not what is the acceptable number ? because unless you want teachers dusting anyone who looks suspicious there's going to be a body count.

I don't claim to have a solution and I'm not going to make excuses or offer dumb ideas like every teach be SWAT certified . so now this is the future of America and it only gets worse from here, where it happened and the body count are all it's going to be about.

Should be a fun NRA convention in Houston this week.
And your saying that if a dozen kids get killed the teachers might as well just let them keep going? Makes total sense
 
This will only stop when society informs gov't what their role is and it is NOT to divide us.

Their narrative has been nothing but divisive hate for the past few years.

biden, schumer, garland, and pelosi will be front and center tomorrow to politicize this.

All I can say is damn that fool to hell for stating to never let a crisis go to waste at the expense of another's grief.
 
Most teachers aren't competent and even if they were they didn't sign up for combat duty. I'm not against qualified teachers packing but the fact is this isn't a solution for a host of reasons.

The radio said this kid just turned 18 and legally bought himself a couple man cards for his birthday. if this is true the excuse machine better get a shot of nitrous .

Now we watch for the next one and see where and how many get smoked. we're averaging one a week so we won't have to wait long for the answer.
Cite your source that says most teachers aren’t competent!

I know teachers who would smoke a thug like Doc Holiday in that movie Tombstone!

What makes you think you can learn about guns yet teachers can’t? Interesting thought process…
 
Most teachers aren't competent and even if they were they didn't sign up for combat duty. I'm not against qualified teachers packing but the fact is this isn't a solution for a host of reasons.

The radio said this kid just turned 18 and legally bought himself a couple man cards for his birthday. if this is true the excuse machine better get a shot of nitrous .

Now we watch for the next one and see where and how many get smoked. we're averaging one a week so we won't have to wait long for the answer.
Was he legal to buy guns?

These sick bastards will find another way to kill people they don't need guns you need to pull your head out of Brandon's a$$!
 
This is my hometown. Please keep the families in your prayers. The pain they are going through is unimaginable
I'm sorry man, but for everyone this has to be painful. We all have kids or know those who do. Anyone with a heart has to feel this. It is time for some changes. You can't walk away every time and say the same things without action.
 
I didn't say no teachers are competent, I said most aren't . so pretending otherwise is a joke.

At least let the bodies cool before you start attacking anyone who questions the status quo. the vast majority of Americans favor restrictions on assault weapons and hi cap mags so stop the fake outrage at the discussion of such.

Would more gun laws stop the problem ? no. would it help ? maybe. let's assume the news is true for the moment , this kid just bought these guns a week or so ago on his 18th birthday. the lame excuse is he would have killed anyway, maybe , maybe not and if he had killed would we have 18 bodies ? unlikely because he obviously couldn't wait to get them and try them out.

If you don't give a FF that's your right. but don't cat pile on the majority in this nation who are open to reducing the carnage. I'm saying Nothing Ronald Reagan didn't advocate so GFYS with the Brandon talk.
 
I didn't say no teachers are competent, I said most aren't . so pretending otherwise is a joke.

At least let the bodies cool before you start attacking anyone who questions the status quo. the vast majority of Americans favor restrictions on assault weapons and hi cap mags so stop the fake outrage at the discussion of such.

Would more gun laws stop the problem ? no. would it help ? maybe. let's assume the news is true for the moment , this kid just bought these guns a week or so ago on his 18th birthday. the lame excuse is he would have killed anyway, maybe , maybe not and if he had killed would we have 18 bodies ? unlikely because he obviously couldn't wait to get them and try them out.

If you don't give a FF that's your right. but don't cat pile on the majority in this nation who are open to reducing the carnage. I'm saying Nothing Ronald Reagan didn't advocate so GFYS with the Brandon talk.
Who is saying the vast majority of Americans want tougher gun laws Brandon's people? When was the last time you bought a weapon? You just dont go pick it up and pay for it they check you out!
I feel bad for the kids but nothing would have stopped this retard he legally bought them!
 
Because all teachers are insane. They paid for college just to take a low paying job watching other people’s kids. I don’t even like to hang out with my own kids. And someone else’s? By choice? No ******* way.
Now I understand why some kids do the dumb stuff they do.
 
People Like Yourself dude are the Only Ones wanting tougher Gun Laws!

You're So GAWD-DAMNED Blind You Look at Things Just Like The BRANDON You Voted For!

The Day they Take the AR's Is The Day You'll Hand Your Elk Rifle in as Well dude!

You'd Best Start Using That PUMPKIN Atop Your Shoulders For More Than just Inducing CROWN!




I didn't say no teachers are competent, I said most aren't . so pretending otherwise is a joke.

At least let the bodies cool before you start attacking anyone who questions the status quo. the vast majority of Americans favor restrictions on assault weapons and hi cap mags so stop the fake outrage at the discussion of such.

Would more gun laws stop the problem ? no. would it help ? maybe. let's assume the news is true for the moment , this kid just bought these guns a week or so ago on his 18th birthday. the lame excuse is he would have killed anyway, maybe , maybe not and if he had killed would we have 18 bodies ? unlikely because he obviously couldn't wait to get them and try them out.

If you don't give a FF that's your right. but don't cat pile on the majority in this nation who are open to reducing the carnage. I'm saying Nothing Ronald Reagan didn't advocate so GFYS with the Brandon talk.
 
I didn't say no teachers are competent, I said most aren't . so pretending otherwise is a joke.

At least let the bodies cool before you start attacking anyone who questions the status quo. the vast majority of Americans favor restrictions on assault weapons and hi cap mags so stop the fake outrage at the discussion of such.

Would more gun laws stop the problem ? no. would it help ? maybe. let's assume the news is true for the moment , this kid just bought these guns a week or so ago on his 18th birthday. the lame excuse is he would have killed anyway, maybe , maybe not and if he had killed would we have 18 bodies ? unlikely because he obviously couldn't wait to get them and try them out.

If you don't give a FF that's your right. but don't cat pile on the majority in this nation who are open to reducing the carnage. I'm saying Nothing Ronald Reagan didn't advocate so GFYS with the Brandon talk.
Really because others have a different opinion than you, that means they don't care.
Get a clue, that is the reason we have so much divide in this Nation.
 
Yes he legally bought them. that's the point.

Yes we have divide in this country, some people care more about unborn kids than live ones is a perfect example.

All or nearly all polls say the majority support new laws on assault weapons and mags. do your own research but if you want to wager me on it I'll do it for you.

This is just another place you're going to lose it's just a matter of time and bodies. admittedly the fact is the horse has left the barn there are so many rambo guns out there new laws won't help that much. but the Clinton ban Reagan and Ford supported would have saved 21 lives today had it still been in place so you can't say nothing can help. but who gives a FF 21 isn't that many right.
 
Most teachers aren't competent and even if they were they didn't sign up for combat duty. I'm not against qualified teachers packing but the fact is this isn't a solution for a host of reasons.

The radio said this kid just turned 18 and legally bought himself a couple man cards for his birthday. if this is true the excuse machine better get a shot of nitrous .

Now we watch for the next one and see where and how many get smoked. we're averaging one a week so we won't have to wait long for the answer.
So answer my question or do I need to explain it as if it was your family?
 
People Like Yourself dude are the Only Ones wanting tougher Gun Laws!

You're So GAWD-DAMNED Blind You Look at Things Just Like The BRANDON You Voted For!

The Day they Take the AR's Is The Day You'll Hand Your Elk Rifle in as Well dude!

You'd Best Start Using That PUMPKIN Atop Your Shoulders For More Than just Inducing CROWN!
Spot on Bess!
 
Yes he legally bought them. that's the point.

Yes we have divide in this country, some people care more about unborn kids than live ones is a perfect example.

All or nearly all polls say the majority support new laws on assault weapons and mags. do your own research but if you want to wager me on it I'll do it for you.

This is just another place you're going to lose it's just a matter of time and bodies. admittedly the fact is the horse has left the barn there are so many rambo guns out there new laws won't help that much. but the Clinton ban Reagan and Ford supported would have saved 21 lives today had it still been in place so you can't say nothing can help. but who gives a FF 21 isn't that many right.
How do you begin to justify that you care more about kids than others on this topic.
You are a baseless hack.
 
How do you begin to justify that you care more about kids than others on this topic.
You are a baseless hack.
He is Troll-State Jr. Both have zero brain cells. One blinded by his devotion to WLH, the other blinded by his hatred for Trump.

My condolences to you Whitwell. I hunt there west of town past the checkpoint and live up in Fredericksburg. I do alot of business with Browder Graves. Lots of good folks in Uvalde.
 
Yes that's what I'm saying. first off he couldn't have bought them, second if he had wanted to buy one they would be $20,000 now and the little puke wouldn't have had the money. would he have marched in there with a M70 or a high wall ? maybe. but there wouldn't be 21 leakers.

Your question ? it was so dumb I thought it was a comment. is 1 life worth nothing? absolutely it is. so my question is aren't 21 lives worth more ?

Yes the polls say Americans are for new restrictions. bet me on it and I'll post them up . an education costs money. $100 ? com'on let's go.
 
Yes he legally bought them. that's the point.

Yes we have divide in this country, some people care more about unborn kids than live ones is a perfect example.

All or nearly all polls say the majority support new laws on assault weapons and mags. do your own research but if you want to wager me on it I'll do it for you.

This is just another place you're going to lose it's just a matter of time and bodies. admittedly the fact is the horse has left the barn there are so many rambo guns out there new laws won't help that much. but the Clinton ban Reagan and Ford supported would have saved 21 lives today had it still been in place so you can't say nothing can help. but who gives a FF 21 isn't that many right.

"some people don't care about unborn kids and only live ones is a perfect example."

There. Fixed it for you.
 
He is Troll-State Jr. Both have zero brain cells. One blinded by his devotion to WLH, the other blinded by his hatred for Trump.

My condolences to you Whitwell. I hunt there west of town past the checkpoint and live up in Fredericksburg. I do alot of business with Browder Graves. Lots of good folks in Uvalde.
Thank you.
 
I Never Said There Wasn't a Bunch of DUMB-ASSES Wanting Restrictions on Guns!

In Your Eyes If a Law is Passed You Think The Low-Lifes of This Globe Will Obey Them!

WRONG!



Yes that's what I'm saying. first off he couldn't have bought them, second if he had wanted to buy one they would be $20,000 now and the little puke wouldn't have had the money. would he have marched in there with a M70 or a high wall ? maybe. but there wouldn't be 21 leakers.

Your question ? it was so dumb I thought it was a comment. is 1 life worth nothing? absolutely it is. so my question is aren't 21 lives worth more ?

Yes the polls say Americans are for new restrictions. bet me on it and I'll post them up . an education costs money. $100 ? com'on let's go.
 
Yes that's what I'm saying. first off he couldn't have bought them, second if he had wanted to buy one they would be $20,000 now and the little puke wouldn't have had the money. would he have marched in there with a M70 or a high wall ? maybe. but there wouldn't be 21 leakers.

Your question ? it was so dumb I thought it was a comment. is 1 life worth nothing? absolutely it is. so my question is aren't 21 lives worth more ?

Yes the polls say Americans are for new restrictions. bet me on it and I'll post them up . an education costs money. $100 ? com'on let's go.
Now you are referring to innocent children as “leakers”? You really are a piece of s@&t.
 
I'm not blinded by anything that's why you're so butthurt by anyone with the grasp for the obvious.

Yes leakers, I was trying to identify with anyone who doesn't want to do anything to reduce this trend. you have the nerve to say I'm the POS that's rich. at the moment I care more than anyone place so if that offends you feel free to GFYS again.

WTF do I have to gain by any of this ? not a damn thing. some of us just have a conscience that's all.
 
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I didn't say no teachers are competent, I said most aren't . so pretending otherwise is a joke.

At least let the bodies cool before you start attacking anyone who questions the status quo. the vast majority of Americans favor restrictions on assault weapons and hi cap mags so stop the fake outrage at the discussion of such.

Would more gun laws stop the problem ? no. would it help ? maybe. let's assume the news is true for the moment , this kid just bought these guns a week or so ago on his 18th birthday. the lame excuse is he would have killed anyway, maybe , maybe not and if he had killed would we have 18 bodies ? unlikely because he obviously couldn't wait to get them and try them out.

If you don't give a FF that's your right. but don't cat pile on the majority in this nation who are open to reducing the carnage. I'm saying Nothing Ronald Reagan didn't advocate so GFYS with the Brandon talk.
AGAIN cite your source on “most teachers are incompetent.” Then cite your source on the vast majority of Americans favor restrictions on assault weapons and high capacity magazines.

The vast majority of gun related crime is committed with a handgun. The United States would be one of the safest gun countries in the world if you removed black on black gun violence which nobody wants to discuss for fear of being labeled a racist. Facts are a stubborn thing.
 
I'm not blinded by anything that's why you're so butthurt by anyone with the grasp for the obvious.

I don't have a dog in the fight I don't even like being around kids they annoy me. but I think they have the right to live without some creep playing army man coming into school and going medieval on them with his man card. if that offends you feel free to GFYS again.

Another example, to use your words...
 
Yes he legally bought them. that's the point.

Yes we have divide in this country, some people care more about unborn kids than live ones is a perfect example.

All or nearly all polls say the majority support new laws on assault weapons and mags. do your own research but if you want to wager me on it I'll do it for you.

This is just another place you're going to lose it's just a matter of time and bodies. admittedly the fact is the horse has left the barn there are so many rambo guns out there new laws won't help that much. but the Clinton ban Reagan and Ford supported would have saved 21 lives today had it still been in place so you can't say nothing can help. but who gives a FF 21 isn't that many right.
You don’t think a school full of 8 year olds couldn’t be slaughtered by somebody with a handgun? Somebody with a little knowledge of shooting could do that with a revolver. Why do “assault rifles” scare you? You don’t own any do you?
 
Tog,
I always like your arguments. I hold no Ill will towards you. Most of my family thinks these guns should be banned.

On a side note, you called them man cards. I have my fair share of ARs. I guess it’s because I’m a firearm enthusiast and kind of like all sorts of guns. I love to joke with my friends about my ARs when we are around them. I tell them “it’s a very manly gun”, or it “makes me feel like a real man”. Another thing I like to say is that “it’s like having another penis”.
 
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I haven’t read all the other comments and I posted this same thing over on rockslide but maybe some of you here would like to read it.

We had a interesting discussion about this in one of my classes the other day. These are some of the things some high schoolers thought and things that were said. (I live in a small country town)

1. More gun laws ain’t gonna hurt the people that do things like this. The only people it’ll hurt is the people who follow the laws.

2. It’s not possible for a gun to kill someone. A person can kill another person with a gun, but a gun can’t kill a person. If anything we need to be worried about the crazy people behind the guns, not the guns themselves.

3. There were multiple people in my class that fully admitted to having a gun in their truck parked out in the parking lot (me included). Us that did all agreed that we wouldn’t hesitate to get them and come back in to hunt down that worthless POS. There’s no need for innocent people to die. If we had
to take a consequence for killing a school shooter and risk loosing our own lives to save one person, we would all do it in a heartbeat.

4. Kill every single school shooter. Don’t just take them to jail where they’ll end up with food to eat and no bills. Kill them on the spot and let the cameras on them so anyone even thinking about it knows for 100% sure they’ll die.

5. Let any and all teachers in any school that want to conceal carry. Make a specialized training course for them to go through, but don’t make it illegal for them to have a gun. I can think of at least 5 teachers in my school that I wouldn’t be one bit suprised if they had a gun and would feel safer being in that class too.
One of the things the teacher had us think about was if we would feel safer in a room with a teacher with or without a gun. He then had us think about any teachers that we might think could have a gun and if we would or wouldn’t trust them with it. Not one single person said they would feel less safe and not trust any of the teachers who might have one.

Thought it might be interesting for you guys to hear some of the current teenagers thoughts on the subject. Granted most all of us grew up country kids and around guns. There’s not many kids like us left and theres getting to be less and less.
 
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He even shot his own grandmother before he entered the school. WOW
 
Fellows, every evil idiot who does something of this nature jeopardizes our right to bear arms a little more each time. Not just mean, loud, alien looking black guns but ALL our guns. We know there are those radicals out there who want to ban it all. We need to lobby for concealed carry for teachers willing, more school resource officers, private entities made up of retired military, law enforcement and competent people willing to put their life on the line. We need technology and secure entry/exit ways in schools similar to court houses. We just gave Ukraine 50 Billion dollars, it’s about time we give ourselves some of our tax dollars and secure these schools.
 
I haven’t read all the other comments and I posted this same thing over on rockslide but maybe some of you here would like to read it.

We had a interesting discussion about this in one of my classes the other day. These are some of the things some high schoolers thought and things that were said. (I live in a small country town)

1. More gun laws ain’t gonna hurt the people that do things like this. The only people it’ll hurt is the people who follow the laws.

2. It’s not possible for a gun to kill someone. A person can kill another person with a gun, but a gun can’t kill a person. If anything we need to be worried about the crazy people behind the guns, not the guns themselves.

3. There were multiple people in my class that fully admitted to having a gun in their truck parked out in the parking lot (me included). Us that did all agreed that we wouldn’t hesitate to get them and come back in to hunt down that worthless POS. There’s no need for innocent people to die. If we had
to take a consequence for killing a school shooter and risk loosing our own lives to save one person, we would all do it in a heartbeat.

4. Kill every single school shooter. Don’t just take them to jail where they’ll end up with food to eat and no bills. Kill them on the spot and let the cameras on them so anyone even thinking about it knows for 100% sure they’ll die.

5. Let any and all teachers in any school that want to conceal carry. Make a specialized training course for them to go through, but don’t make it illegal for them to have a gun. I can think of at least 5 teachers in my school that I wouldn’t be one bit suprised if they had a gun and would feel safer being in that class too.
One of the things the teacher had us think about was if we would feel safer in a room with a teacher with or without a gun. He then had us think about any teachers that we might think could have a gun and if we would or wouldn’t trust them with it. Not one single person said they would feel less safe and not trust any of the teachers who might have one.

Thought it might be interesting for you guys to hear some of the current teenagers thoughts on the subject. Granted most all of us grew up country kids and around guns. There’s not many kids like us left and theres getting to be less and less.
Good post sir, you sound like a great guy, do you feel safer on Friday Night wearing a helmet on that football field or not wearing one? You hit the nail on the head, I also feel much safer with a gun than without.
 
Guns aren’t the problem, liberal Democrats are. We need guns more than ever now because of the way liberal Democrats have let criminals run amuck in our country and the culture liberals are pushing on our kids, religion isn’t allowed, telling them men can get pregnan, making boys act like girls, watching liberals screaming to defund the police, school teachers pushing a crazy agenda and being political, what do you expect ?
We have illegals coming through our unsecured borders to kill a former president and that’s still not enough for Biden to even say anything about it. Hate to say it but this shooting is just another day in the way liberal Democrats have made America.
FJB !
 
I don’t believe at all any more these are random acts. Theirs forces in this country that have agendas and don’t mind breaking a few eggs to see them happen. Call me a right wing conspiracy nut job all you want
I literally told my dad 3 weeks ago to get ready for a bunch of shootings to start happening. Some talking head on tv was mentioning how this administration needed to change the narrative and later mentioned the gun banning angle. I immediately turned to my dad and said “I’ll bet we start to see shootings pick up”.

Conspiracy theory or not, these coincidences have happened in the past.
 
Guns aren’t the problem, liberal Democrats are. We need guns more than ever now because of the way liberal Democrats have let criminals run amuck in our country and the culture liberals are pushing on our kids, religion isn’t allowed, telling them men can get pregnan, making boys act like girls, watching liberals screaming to defund the police, school teachers pushing a crazy agenda and being political, what do you expect ?
We have illegals coming through our unsecured borders to kill a former president and that’s still not enough for Biden to even say anything about it. Hate to say it but this shooting is just another day in the way liberal Democrats have made America.
FJB !
And they let criminals off early, serial predators on riders, shoplifting uncontrolled, starting political and race wars, murderers off early, looting and burning unchecked, BLM and Antifa being scumbags unchecked. And we wonder why there is violence. Some mental.heth diseases need to be ousters though.
 
I literally told my dad 3 weeks ago to get ready for a bunch of shootings to start happening. Some talking head on tv was mentioning how this administration needed to change the narrative and later mentioned the gun banning angle. I immediately turned to my dad and said “I’ll bet we start to see shootings pick up”.

Conspiracy theory or not, these coincidences have happened in the past.
There not real hard dots to connect anymore. Committing atrocities is real easy to hide in plain site. The US government would never kill innocent people for politics :rolleyes: you buy that I got a bridge I’m selling you need to consider
 
Togwotee
I git one derios question please answer if you can.
Shootings of this nature this often did not happen before Colombian, yes I have heard the reports of mass shootings back to the 1950, but not as frequent as they happen now.
My question is why is it happening now as often as it is happening, what has changed since the 1980's?
 
Togwotee
I git one derios question please answer if you can.
Shootings of this nature this often did not happen before Colombian, yes I have heard the reports of mass shootings back to the 1950, but not as frequent as they happen now.
My question is why is it happening now as often as it is happening, what has changed since the 1980's?
Sir with all due respect school mass shootings have been going on since the 1700’s. There are actually less of them now than in previous decades.
 
Yes that's what I'm saying. first off he couldn't have bought them, second if he had wanted to buy one they would be $20,000 now and the little puke wouldn't have had the money. would he have marched in there with a M70 or a high wall ? maybe. but there wouldn't be 21 leakers.

Your question ? it was so dumb I thought it was a comment. is 1 life worth nothing? absolutely it is. so my question is aren't 21 lives worth more ?

Yes the polls say Americans are for new restrictions. bet me on it and I'll post them up . an education costs money. $100 ? com'on let's go.
Wouldn’t matter how much the gun cost to “legally obtain.” What he did wasn’t legal…? Someone with a killing agenda will find the way to obtain what they need to fulfill their plan.

It goes back to investing more dollars toward mental illness and fixing the “broken home” problem in this world. It starts with the family….The parents.
 
You guys are entitled to your opinions.
However wrong they are!.
Rebooted gun laws are coming very soon
(Red flag law, back ground checks and no more over counter sales or selling to buds. Maybe next time it happens to prominent Republicans party very close to there life for them to wake up! enough is enough) the kid was bullied, poor and had a grudge! Can only fix one of those!
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Saying ban the AR and it would stop shootings is silly, same with pistols...that deranged person (who killed their grandma) could just buy a 12 Guage and 3 1/2" 00 buckshot (18 pellets) and be just as lethal or even worse in a close quarter situation.

This person is evil and sick, I also believe he was a very weak person specially targeting elderly and children. This is an unthinkable tragedy, it doesn't need to be political and doesn't mean law makers need to take immediate action. Pretty sure the immediate talking point after the Buffalo shooting was about the dangers of free speech.
 
Terrible stuff, as someone who has kids. This would be the worst thing in the world to me. I think there is a huge issue of kids not handling social problems well. I know when my dad came to America from Hungary in the 60s the world was much harder. I’m sure he didn’t get a pass for not speaking English. And I’m sure he got picked on. But he toughed up and handled himself. I can say for 100% im way softer. Im not proud of it, but that’s how it is.

What happened to kids just meeting after school and having a fight? Yeah it may it may not be the answer. But this is not, regardless of what gun control measures you think will work, they won’t. If someone wants to do harm they will. I think it’s sick when the first thing politicians do is advocate there agenda. I also think it’s sick when the media puts its spin on. These are kids that are dead, there is nothing worse.
 
I was just finishing up high-school when these types of shootings actually started becoming a real threat. I remember a bunch of classmates and myself asked the teacher what we would actually do. Most of the teachers would just say "lock and barricade the door and pray to God they don't get in". At least if a teacher is packing, if they get past the door, they also have to get past 10+rounds of American power.
 
Just remember in Utah any teacher that wants to pack a concealed weapon can.
So my suggestion Togwotee if you don't like that stay out of Utah.
 
I was just finishing up high-school when these types of shootings actually started becoming a real threat. I remember a bunch of classmates and myself asked the teacher what we would actually do. Most of the teachers would just say "lock and barricade the door and pray to God they don't get in". At least if a teacher is packing, if they get past the door, they also have to get past 10+rounds of American power.
And if the said teacher is having a bad day and decides to become a mass shooter???
Jester
 
Sir with all due respect school mass shootings have been going on since the 1700’s. There are actually less of them now than in previous decades.
With all due respect I said MASS SHOOTINGS.
The 1950 is a little more relevant than guys shooting down innocent victims using flint lock and black powder.
And Bigfoot you might find this pertinent.

 
And if the said teacher is having a bad day and decides to become a mass shooter???
Jester
I bet you 100$ that there would be 90% less school shootings if teachers packed. Just cause teachers get mad at students doesn't mean they will shoot them up. Most teachers have a better grasp on life and their emotions and don't get all mass shooty
 
At my kids’ elementary school all the doors are always locked. To get in a person must be ‘buzzed’ in. As far as I understand that’s how it is in most elementary schools across the country these days and rightfully so.

Why tf weren’t the doors locked at this school. That’s a massive systemic failure to let someone like this waltz into an elementary school.

Also from what I read, the cops were already chasing Ramos before he got to the school, apparently. So much so he wrecked his truck (a pretty fancy looking truck for an 18 year old) while being chased by the cops before he shot up 19 kids.

Wtf? Something seems real fucky with that.
 
So sad. How about FUND THE POLICE. every school have armed guards on patrol or in the school. It would be expensive, but we could do it. Pull some of the cops off of the roadways and put them in schools!
Just make school military bases.
Won't happen...
Evil walks among us. Just add 2 cents to your local taxes. That would generate a great deal of state revenue...
Tax the Rich..that could pay for it!!
 
It’s a damn shame we have to live with this unbelievably F-d up kind of evil. It also give idiots like biden and his fruity cohorts more ammunition against us law abiding, gun owning citizens.
 
At my kids’ elementary school all the doors are always locked. To get in a person must be ‘buzzed’ in. As far as I understand that’s how it is in most elementary schools across the country these days and rightfully so.

Why tf weren’t the doors locked at this school. That’s a massive systemic failure to let someone like this waltz into an elementary school.

Also from what I read, the cops were already chasing Ramos before he got to the school, apparently. So much so he wrecked his truck (a pretty fancy looking truck for an 18 year old) while being chased by the cops before he shot up 19 kids.

Wtf? Something seems real fucky with that.

Because some clueless person just lets everyone in that buzzes the door..... this is true.
 
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Well, there seems to be a consesnus that the killer was crazy.

Firearms enthusiasts better start helping to figure out pretty quick how to keep crazies from getting their hands on guns, or someone will do it for us as has also been pointed out.

I predict someone will be along in short order to throw the constitution in my face, and skip right over the crazy thing.

I agree we ALSO have a criminal justice problem.

I feel so bad for all those victims. I worry about my wife who spends all day in a high school.
 

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