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You forget your most important one Bullskin..

“Support the blue, whether they work for the county, the state, or the feds, or the LEFT”

Or the right.

But, whatever the inclination of law enforcement (typically to the right), there is still the issue of the jury. These, too, will have their own preferences, but it is not reasonable to conclude that they are mostly leftists.
 
its funny that you think right and left matter. so far past that now. keep "backing" federal agencies that give a rats ass about your rights. t'll all work out i'm sure. what really matter is if "your guy" is in power right? no possibility of blow back in any future scenario. yup, seems logical
 
its funny that you think right and left matter. so far past that now. keep "backing" federal agencies that give a rats ass about your rights. t'll all work out i'm sure. what really matter is if "your guy" is in power right? no possibility of blow back in any future scenario. yup, seems logical.

It will work out for me. I accept that government does not work entirely on my behalf--that there are others with interests different from my own who have the same rights as I do. I am OK with democracy and content to see either party in power so long as they respect the law and the Constitution.

Where government fails, it is because partisans nominate candidates willing to discount half of the nation they expect to represent in order to enrich themselves and hold on to power by any means possible. Moderation is critical in any democratic society.
 
see either party in power so long as they respect the law and the Constitution.
kinda what i was getting at. the rights you give in the name of your party now, don't come back when the next "evil" white man takes over. sure is "working out"
 
I've had this for a long time, not quite sure if I agreed or not. I now officially agree with this.

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I would wager that I could withstand the scrutiny that the former prez now suffers under. And he is entitled to due process just like I am.

Thats some dark thinking. If I were a liberal I would say you should take stock of what you’re doing, and maybe consider some changes. But I’m a librarian so will mind my own business. :)


You know at one time, you liked the ?
 
The drug dealer on the corner says exactly the same thing about your city cops. Ultimately, a jury gets to decide who to trust. I would rather leave it to that jury, selected from the most moderate members of society, than to left or right-wingers advocating for their cause on social media.


After 6 years of chasing, has Trump got a jury yet?

Tons of Liz Cheney types running around. Lots of crap spewed.

But like you I actually believe in courts and jury's.
 
Or the right.

But, whatever the inclination of law enforcement (typically to the right), there is still the issue of the jury. These, too, will have their own preferences, but it is not reasonable to conclude that they are mostly leftists.
It certainly is reasonable to conclude the leftist lean at the DOJ and DC FBI......It would be comical to argue that it's not if you've been awake the last 20 years....
 
Support the blue, whether they work for the county, the state, or the feds; whether they bring charges against the president or the gang-banger on the street. If there is a case to be had, then I am content to know that a jury will study the evidence in its entirety in due time and reach the best conclusion possible under the laws of the land. That is the basic principle of justice in the U.S.

If the FBI suspects that any citizen illegally possesses top secret information, then I would certainly hope that they would act to retrieve it, no matter what position of power that citizen once held. In fact, the greater the power of the position, the greater the need for strict adherence to law.

Trump understands his obligation to America. If the accusation is true, then the documents taken must be recovered. If not, then Trump will bask a little longer in the limelight. But there is no need to rush to judgement. Let law enforcement do its job.
Good in theory, but Garland should.have appointed a special council and stayed out of it. He's just persecuting his political enemies now which sets a bad standard, and once a new standard is set it remains going forward. Future administrations no longer have to appoint special councils because this one did not, and it will be referenced from now until forever.
 
Indictment is inevitible…only question is when…the “election strategists“ are deciding that.
 
Is "wimpy" Garland playing chess? Trump and his base thought that the DOJ would just keep quiet so that Trump could just spin things and whip up conspiracy theories.

Now it appears Garland is going to release everything that was in that warrant and Trump can’t file to keep it sealed without damaging the credibility of everything he said over the last 2 days.

This is all so very confusing.... What is the actual Truth behind all this?
 
Is "wimpy" Garland playing chess? Trump and his base thought that the DOJ would just keep quiet so that Trump could just spin things and whip up conspiracy theories.

Now it appears Garland is going to release everything that was in that warrant and Trump can’t file to keep it sealed without damaging the credibility of everything he said over the last 2 days.

This is all so very confusing.... What is the actual Truth behind all this?
If you look at the list of lawsuits against Trump, who is filing them, and more importantly who is financing them, it becomes real clear, real quick
 
Our US Government is bound and determined to put in jail and financially ruin Trump and anyone associated with him…..everyone here knows that….we only differ on if it is right to do or not.
 
If nothing else the DNC has some footage of police car lights flashing in front of Trump's house for a campaign add against Trump. That will work with the average Democrat.
 
I don't know the situation, but let's say your scenario is exactly right and the guy cut him off and then flipped him off, it still doesn't justify the response. A near-violent encounter in a parking lot with an old guy where you charge over to him and tell him you're going to f'ing beat his @ss and that he won't make it because he's so old... all because of a middle finger? Grow up!

But, of course, I'm not the type that buys right-wing t-shirts saying, "Give violence a chance," so maybe I'm wrong.
You may not buy a T-shirt. But YOUR party sure did sit around and watch cities burn, good people get beat up, and called it a peaceful gathering. Some of your party even said it was their right to riot because they had good reason to riot. So please don’t give me your sob BS stories. Maybe the old guy deserved a beating and only got a good yelling at. And then again maybe the guy on the truck needs to get his a$$ kicked.
 
You may not buy a T-shirt. But YOUR party sure did sit around and watch cities burn, good people get beat up, and called it a peaceful gathering. Some of your party even said it was their right to riot because they had good reason to riot. So please don’t give me your sob BS stories. Maybe the old guy deserved a beating and only got a good yelling at. And then again maybe the guy on the truck needs to get his a$$ kicked.
You’ll have to show me where grizz supported the sacking of liberal cities by the fringe extremes. And if right wing rage did relate back to that, it’s just more vengeance by the angry mob.

I’m just as nervous about law enforcement decisions being influenced by public opinion as I am political influence. In my experience, the public is mostly stupid.
 
its funny that you think right and left matter. so far past that now. keep "backing" federal agencies that give a rats ass about your rights. t'll all work out i'm sure. what really matter is if "your guy" is in power right? no possibility of blow back in any future scenario. yup, seems logical
You nailed it. People are so caught up in their side "winning" that they don't seem to care about the damage being done to all of us (left and right) when you allow these agencies/bureaucracies to run amuck.

It honestly amazes me that people are so caught up in their side prevailing that they lose sight of the biggest problem of all.
 
I guess anyone and everyone should have paperwork on nuclear weapons.
I wonder if he gave it to anybody. he is starting look like a person a little unhinged. I'm sure he can do no wrong.
I should have some since I serviced on a nuclear Sub.
How stupid is to have stuff like that is your house that could end up in a foreign country hands that could then be use on the USA.

Can't wait to hear all the reasons why.
 
I guess anyone and everyone should have paperwork on nuclear weapons.
I wonder if he gave it to anybody. he is starting look like a person a little unhinged. I'm sure he can do no wrong.
I should have some since I serviced on a nuclear Sub.
How stupid is to have stuff like that is your house that could end up in a foreign country hands that could then be use on the USA.

Can't wait to hear all the reasons why.
are you really that dense Gator?...maybe give it to Joe and Hunter......they have the Chinese connections....
 
That the best you got tell how that makes sense to have that paperwork in his house.
I vote for him and I vote against him so I'm guess I'm even.
Tell me a good story Homer
 
I just heard all the FBI planted the paperwork in his house. Guess they was all Democrat's agents no Republican's agents was there. LOL
 
Nuclear LMAO - Took em 2 days to come up with a scary enough excuse for the raid.... laundered through the WaPo. They stepped in a huge cow pie and they know it. WAFJ!
 
You nailed it. People are so caught up in their side "winning" that they don't seem to care about the damage being done to all of us (left and right) when you allow these agencies/bureaucracies to run amuck.

It honestly amazes me that people are so caught up in their side prevailing that they lose sight of the biggest problem of all.
"their side" picks the agency heads....
 
"The Department filed the motion to make public the warrant and receipt in light of the former president's public confirmation of the search, the surrounding circumstances and the substantial public interest in this matter. Faithful adherence to the rule of law is the bedrock principle of the Justice Department and of our democracy. Upholding the rule of law means applying the law evenly without fear or favor."

It'll be interesting to see if Trump opposes the release of the search warrant. He has until 1pm tomorrow to respond.
 
Faithful adherence to the rule of law is the bedrock principle of the Justice Department and of our democracy. Upholding the rule of law means applying the law evenly without fear or favor."
This might be the funniest thing that ever been posted on monster muleys!! Good one grizzly, I knew you had a sense of humor
 
"The Department filed the motion to make public the warrant and receipt in light of the former president's public confirmation of the search, the surrounding circumstances and the substantial public interest in this matter. Faithful adherence to the rule of law is the bedrock principle of the Justice Department and of our democracy. Upholding the rule of law means applying the law evenly without fear or favor."

It'll be interesting to see if Trump opposes the release of the search warrant. He has until 1pm tomorrow to respond.
What will be interesting about it?
 
"The Department filed the motion to make public the warrant and receipt in light of the former president's public confirmation of the search, the surrounding circumstances and the substantial public interest in this matter. Faithful adherence to the rule of law is the bedrock principle of the Justice Department and of our democracy. Upholding the rule of law means applying the law evenly without fear or favor."

It'll be interesting to see if Trump opposes the release of the search warrant. He has until 1pm tomorrow to respond.
I will be more interested in if the DOJ actually ever applies the evenly without fear of favor. Couple of non-partisan questions Grizz.

Did Jeffery Epstein really kill himself? Why were tha cameras not working in his cell?

Are you familiar with Peter Stokz and Lisa Page's text messages? Expressing hate and determinations to keep Trump from being elected. All while up to their necks in the Crossfire Hurricane/Russian dossier conspiracy. The real big lie.

Why has Hunter not been raided? The information on his laptop has been with the FBLie for over 8 months.

Why did over 30 former DOJ / CIA operatives sign a letter before the 2020 election stating that Hunter's laptop was "Russian Disinformation"?

SOULD WE NOW BELIEVE THE DEEP STATE, DOJ and FBI?:unsure:
 
I will be more interested in if the DOJ actually ever applies the evenly without fear of favor. Couple of non-partisan questions Grizz.

Did Jeffery Epstein really kill himself? Why were tha cameras not working in his cell?

Are you familiar with Peter Stokz and Lisa Page's text messages? Expressing hate and determinations to keep Trump from being elected. All while up to their necks in the Crossfire Hurricane/Russian dossier conspiracy. The real big lie.

Why has Hunter not been raided? The information on his laptop has been with the FBLie for over 8 months.

Why did over 30 former DOJ / CIA operatives sign a letter before the 2020 election stating that Hunter's laptop was "Russian Disinformation"?

SOULD WE NOW BELIEVE THE DEEP STATE, DOJ and FBI?:unsure:
2 years.....not 8 months....
 
I will be more interested in if the DOJ actually ever applies the evenly without fear of favor. Couple of non-partisan questions Grizz.

Did Jeffery Epstein really kill himself? Why were tha cameras not working in his cell?

Are you familiar with Peter Stokz and Lisa Page's text messages? Expressing hate and determinations to keep Trump from being elected. All while up to their necks in the Crossfire Hurricane/Russian dossier conspiracy. The real big lie.

Why has Hunter not been raided? The information on his laptop has been with the FBLie for over 8 months.

Why did over 30 former DOJ / CIA operatives sign a letter before the 2020 election stating that Hunter's laptop was "Russian Disinformation"?

SOULD WE NOW BELIEVE THE DEEP STATE, DOJ and FBI?:unsure:
Over 50 "intelligence" officers, including former HEADS of said shitty agencies.
 
Spygate, covering for Hitlery, murdering Seth RIch, Russia, Russia, Russia, Mueller, ignoring oversite, faking evidence, lying to FISA courts, lying to Congress, Comey, Strzok, Page, Hunter, the leaking, the stolen election.... How dare we question their "integrity"...

Comey deliberately sending FBI agents to the White House the day Trumps administration was moving in to purposely set up and trap Flynn

Clinesmith doctoring FISA evidence, Syzrok finding "there is no there, there", Carter page, Manafort, Popadopalas, General Flynn, Roger Stone tyranny. Bugging Trump tower.....don't worry Wray, The FBI has already soiled itself!
 
I guess anyone and everyone should have paperwork on nuclear weapons.
I wonder if he gave it to anybody. he is starting look like a person a little unhinged. I'm sure he can do no wrong.
I should have some since I serviced on a nuclear Sub.
How stupid is to have stuff like that is your house that could end up in a foreign country hands that could then be use on the USA.

Can't wait to hear all the reasons why.

No matter what the material turns out to be, I cannot understand why he and his attorneys did not return it with the first batch confiscated. And how can they be surprised by the raid when they neglected to obey a subpoena to do so? Certainly, he must understand that all official correspondence belongs to the Office of the President, and not merely the man who fills that position.
 
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"Faithful adherence to the rule of law is the bedrock principle of the Justice Department and of our democracy. Upholding the rule of law means applying the law evenly without fear or favor."

Exactly right. Life is not perfect and justice does not always prevail, but that should be every American's goal. Of course, some do not even pretend to care about justice unless it suits their own interests. This hypocrisy is obvious to everyone, and so it becomes necessary to construct endless conspiracy theories to excuse one's blatantly dishonest behavior. Such is the society we live in where every snowflake believes himself a victim.
 
No matter what the material turns out to be, I cannot understand why he and his attorneys did not return it with the first batch confiscated. And how can they be surprised by the raid when they neglected to obey a subpoena to do so? Certainly, he must understand that all official correspondence belongs to the Office of the President, and not merely the man who fills that position.


A lot of it was about his daughters wedding and yoga classes?
 
On a side note.

Anyone notice Kevin Clinesmith, THE FBI LAWYER, who doctored official FBI paperwork to say Carter Page WASNT a CIA informant, in another attempt to RUSSIAGATE Trump, just got his law license back?

Can't figure out why anyone wouldn't willfully deal with the FBI.

Especially a guy who had his campaign office bugged, Russia gate, and now apparently has a FBI informant as part of his inner circle.

I can read, so even before Trump I read about Hoover.

But, ya, trust the FBI
 
What is that, a little golden rat?

I’ve said all along Melania is the best looking 1st Lady. It’s almost like someone carved the perfect woman out of a piece of stone.:confused:
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I actually zoomed in on it after I read this thinking I had indeed posted a rat????.

Old age is a *****!!!! Bifocals might by on the horizon
 
I will be more interested in if the DOJ actually ever applies the evenly without fear of favor. Couple of non-partisan questions Grizz.

Did Jeffery Epstein really kill himself? Why were tha cameras not working in his cell?

Are you familiar with Peter Stokz and Lisa Page's text messages? Expressing hate and determinations to keep Trump from being elected. All while up to their necks in the Crossfire Hurricane/Russian dossier conspiracy. The real big lie.

Why has Hunter not been raided? The information on his laptop has been with the FBLie for over 8 months.

Why did over 30 former DOJ / CIA operatives sign a letter before the 2020 election stating that Hunter's laptop was "Russian Disinformation"?

SOULD WE NOW BELIEVE THE DEEP STATE, DOJ and FBI?:unsure:
NASA is planning a mission to send a probe to uranus right now!
 
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now its nuclear stuff they were looking for :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

its been two years... i can just see the room "holy $hit guys!!! trumps got nukes!!!every one finish your beer we gotta go now!!!!"

oh the integrity of federal law enforcement just beams through doesn't it :ROFLMAO:
 
Its easy for some of us to place the integrity of law enforcement over that of the former president, a proven liar and cheat.

Unauthorized nukular secrets in Melania’s closet certainly would explain a mole in the inner circle. Prolly SS. ;)

I look forward to catching up on all this after a few days of r&r.
 
What is that, a little golden rat?

I’ve said all along Melania is the best looking 1st Lady. It’s almost like someone carved the perfect woman out of a piece of stone.:confused:
??? Yep……. We kick he husband in the guts for 6 years and she should laugh and grin and smile sweetly. I get it too.
 
What is lost in the white noise is this: the boots on the ground agents are "just doing their job." The corruption and degradation will continue to be ordered by those in charge and it will be executed by those who are "just doing their job." Kind of like cops arresting people for not wearing a mask or ATF agents shooting kids, wives and dogs on no knock warrants, just doing their job, mass murder at Waco? just doing their job.
 
Its easy for some of us to place the integrity of law enforcement over that of the former president, a proven liar and cheat.

Unauthorized nukular secrets in Melania’s closet certainly would explain a mole in the inner circle. Prolly SS. ;)

I look forward to catching up on all this after a few days of r&r.

If they were searching for nuke documents Garland would have had no problem stating so and supporting his statements at his presser. Instead, he does a zero information presser and then the DOJ/FBI proceed to leak stories to the American Pravda as they always have.

A pen register warrant was signed the same day at approximately the same time by the same judge. Pen registers allow for monitoring devices, wire taps etc. The raid was a cover for them to install monitoring devices, which is why they wanted the cameras off.

Not shocking the FBI would insert themselves into another election, they have done so every presidential since 2016.
 
Nuclear codes my a$$. Don't the codes change? Plus the fbi was there months ago wouldn't this been asked then. This whole nuc. Story is just a distraction once again.
 
"Reliable sources" are reporting that Barron & Melania have already constructed 6 nuclear warheads and 3 atomic mini smart- bombs and sold them on the black market to Viktor Orban
 
The nuke story is just dis-information to make it sound worse. The codes do change with new admin. coming in. I am betting Trump had taken files that if released would cause severe problems for some Democrat politicians and their supporters.
Any files concerning the Bidens will disappear.
RELH
 
The nuke story is just dis-information to make it sound worse. The codes do change with new admin. coming in. I am betting Trump had taken files that if released would cause severe problems for some Democrat politicians and their supporters.
Any files concerning the Bidens will disappear.
RELH
So what you are implying is Trump took files home that have dirt on some Dems. Was Trump saving these files at home so he can then release them to the press sometime in the future (ie, a few days before election day 2024)?
 
Trump ordered a bunch of stuff declassified right before he left office (as noted in prior article linked in this really long-a$$ thread) because he could as the President. Deep staters and the rest can slow-walk it and did. Just so much wrong here. I'm more inclined to beleive Kash Patel than Merrick Garland.

Side note: Kash Patel was on Sebastian Gorka's show a couple months ago. He was doing high-level intelligence/counter-intellligence work under Trump and told Dr. Gorka that when he presented Trump with the top 20 (or whatever list) of Taliban/ISIS/terrorist baddies, he said, "Kill them."

God bless Trump.
 
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What bothers me is if these are truly classified nuclear codes and dangerous information why did they wait until now to reclaim them. ???
Something does not smell right.
They didn't think their leak through, or the Washington Post, which is basically a CIA/DOJ/FBI leaking billboard just made it up.
 
Within hours of Garland bloviating & grandstanding about the integrity and honor of those wonderful employees of the DOJ & FBI.... one of those men of great integrity leaked the "nuclear story" to the WaPo. If you can't smell the :poop: on this you might want to go see an Ear/Nose/Throat specialist
 
For those with short memories


some girls diary. i imagine its about as relevant to national security as the raid on Trumps place. you gotta be a real card carrying brown shirt party member at this point to keep up the line. we got a few right here at MM apparently
 
some girls diary. i imagine its about as relevant to national security as the raid on Trumps place. you gotta be a real card carrying brown shirt party member at this point to keep up the line. we got a few right here at MM apparently
Big deal if that girl was Ashley Biden, daughter of our President Brandon, and her diary detailed how daddy made her feel dirty, (showers, etc.)
 
Within hours of Garland bloviating & grandstanding about the integrity and honor of those wonderful employees of the DOJ & FBI.... one of those men of great integrity leaked the "nuclear story" to the WaPo. If you can't smell the :poop: on this you might want to go see an Ear/Nose/Throat specialist
Or they might have Covid ???
Or…. Sorry, don’t want to hurt any liberal socialist dem’s feelings!!
???
 
Pretty disgusting that these two can sora/kinda suggest execution for possession of 'nuclear' documents.


People that make those kinds of inflammatory remarks or implications, that possess that level of influence and power.... have no fear of their side ever being out of power again.
 
You think WLM just drew both sportsman's tags for elk and deer with all the bs for this thread.
If you don't walk in someone else's boots then don't judge. I am positive of these things.
9 months of holding docs. Pretty sure Trump is smart enough to know what he has and has had an army of legal scholars review his conduct already.
87000 IRS agents. HOW MANY OF US HAVE TO HAVE A TEAM OF CPA'S AND ATTORNEYS HELP RUN OUR COMPANIES/WORK. Why waste the time of investigating rich people when they have assets like this. These are for the little companies. Smaller households claiming 9 children, cash work with a mortgage, car payments, bills in general but doesn't file taxes?
You might not like Trump but to have 6 years of **** thrown at you might make you a little apprehensive also.
 
You think WLM just drew both sportsman's tags for elk and deer with all the bs for this thread.
If you don't walk in someone else's boots then don't judge. I am positive of these things.
9 months of holding docs. Pretty sure Trump is smart enough to know what he has and has had an army of legal scholars review his conduct already.
87000 IRS agents. HOW MANY OF US HAVE TO HAVE A TEAM OF CPA'S AND ATTORNEYS HELP RUN OUR COMPANIES/WORK. Why waste the time of investigating rich people when they have assets like this. These are for the little companies. Smaller households claiming 9 children, cash work with a mortgage, car payments, bills in general but doesn't file taxes?
You might not like Trump but to have 6 years of **** thrown at you might make you a little apprehensive also.

Remember, it was the FBI that was investigating MLK. They have a history of being a political gestapo,
 
I can tell you what prompted the raid.....I mean visit. Putin has been eating lots of beef stroganoff and it's the Whitehouse's secret recipe. The FBI put 2 and 2 together.
 
Crossfire Hurricane, someone mentioned in a post above. I saw a video last night and the premise was exactly that. The guys doing the video had some great thoughts and evidence, actual White House docs saying the president was declassifying that investigation. CBS news of all outlets, months ago, reported the same thing. The guys in the video stated those docs on the investigation were being slow rolled to get declassified even though trump put in the request. Long story short, those docs, if de-classified, would put A LOT of high ranking officials in a very tough spot. They were theorizing that is why they were doing the raid. Interestingly, today several reports are coming out saying the same thing.
 
Catherine Herridge CBS - just reported those CH docs were at least partially declassified. Doesn't appear they want them to get released.
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So I might be a bit cynical, but given how much this is being talked about by both sides of aisle, what is the government trying to distract us from? What story is out there somewhere that raiding a former president seemed like good cover? Just makes me wonder.
 
So I might be a bit cynical, but given how much this is being talked about by both sides of aisle, what is the government trying to distract us from? What story is out there somewhere that raiding a former president seemed like good cover? Just makes me wonder.
I think I said like 4 pages ago thank goodness this will dominate the news cycle going into election season and not the crippling inflation, 85 thousand new irs agents or massive tax increases. But other then that who knows…
 
hillary had classified stuff on servers in her place, and she destroyed much of the data.....so, why was she not investigated for espionage as Trump was?

And, who do you suppose took/sent those documents to Mar A Lago? Yup, the fed shipped those documents.
 
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I am not sure which is worse--taking classified information home illegally and then keeping it in the closet, or declassifying that top secret information so that it can be taken home legally and read at bedtime (probably the most fun Melania ever had in bed), even though declassification means that it becomes available to anyone who wants it.

Yeah, I feel better now, knowing Trump is keeping the nation's secrets safe.
 
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