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You’re getting pretty worked up here, take a step back and catch you’re breath. I am the middle, my conflicted friend. I don’t want your trump, I don’t want their Biden. Who’s doing the asking to divide the country? Not I. I miss Mayberry…

LOL. Just in case you are interested in what an emotional post is, let me help ya out:

"The fbi is the orange man’s appointees ?. Maybe these corrupt sob’s, child blood drinking in the back of a pizza parlor having, trump appointed fbi scuzballs we’re just doing their job? Maybe? Everything is a conspiracy and everyone a spin doctor….eat up America, slick that plate of bs up for daddy."

That said, I'm pretty calm about it. Just worried that DOJ has gone political. And that would be bad, and we should all worry.
 
The first step of erosion in any society is the lack of law enforcement and willing disregard for its enforcement
Everything in your post was right on but this. The first step was the destruction of the traditional family and morality.This has been going on since the 60’s and has been pretty efficient, at least in a progressive dominated culture. We’re well into step two or three here. It an important distinction to make
 
I hope you’re always allowed to live and think in the middle SB. Mayberry hasn’t been around for a while but I’ll do what I can so what left of it can be here for you…..and my grandchildren. That’s all I’m asking for…… in my right wing support.
Hope we are allowed to live in freedom that our fathers, grandfathers/grandmothers, brothers and sisters fought and died for. This country is defined by us, it is funded by us, the people. Not a single individual. God bless.
 
I don't think the election was stolen. I don't think there are vast conspiracies. Congress and Jan 6- who wouldn't have expected that. It's a political body, so it acts that way. Reps and Dems both behave like idiots. I don't care who appointed who, BTW. Rep presidents appointed supreme court justices that turned out to be liberal. It's just part of what happens in the real world.

My point is simply that if all the DOJ has is some documents he kept, with no nefarious motives, then I'm convinced it was political, all the way to the top. Unlike the Russian crap which was low-level haters of Trump. That was just life in the real world.

Again- if he was selling out the US- planning or doing, I'm good with their actions. Otherwise, it's political, and the DOJ being political is as bad as it can get.

Mostly agree. But I have no problem with "raiding" Mar a Lago to recover the missing classified documents in order to keep them safe--especially after Trump's lawyer signed off that they were already turned over when they were not. I do not see why anyone would make a bid deal over the recovery of these docs.
 
Obama kept around 80 thousand documents. This the first time you’ve asked that question? How progressive of you

And these were properly accounted for and remain in the hands of the National Archives. Seems irrelevant to the topic in hand.
 
Then pick a side.....the middle just lives on coat tails with no responsibility.....

Now THAT's funny!!! This is the sort of thinking that makes it impossible to hold either side accountable for ALL of its actions. Once someone picks their side, they find it impossible to criticize and correct their own sides missteps, with the result that each side digs their own swamp.
 
I’m non affiliated, no primary voting for me. I don’t encumber myself with partisan bs. It clouds the truth and common sense. Not beholding to anyone or any ideals other than my very own. Everything is extreme left or extreme right these days, I’ve always found the truth to be somewhere in the middle.I’m an equal opportunity pisser-offer you could say?. God bless America.
If you don't vote in the primary don't complain about your choices for the Presidency.
 
Maybe they were....maybe the DOJ just wanted all that attorney/client privileged material......
or they wasn't telling the truth about what he had or maybe Trump didn't tell his Attorney he still had them.
All we can do is guess because none of us know the facts in this case.
Is it a witch hunt or does he really think his above the law.
 
JP
Obama papers are in a lockdown section with a ton cameras and guards they part his library no classified top secret I looked it up all 33 million of them are there,
But H#ll I can only read what's on the internet. Haven't set my peepers on them.
 
Ever since Donald Trump became more than just a novelty presidential candidate and started knocking off traditional R's, the mainstream media had worked hand-in-hand with D's to f#ck him over wherever they could.

At the same time, the D-led Gov had worked to accuse, smear, subvert and ultimately attempt to prosecute him of everything short of being on the grassy knoll on Nov. 22, 1963, and they have increased their efforts since they hold both houses and the presidency.

Anyone who can objectively reflect back on ALL the sh!t he, his family and admin has had to deal with since he became a political force and STILL believes he is being treated "fairly," is delusional. But, by all means, feel free to tell yourselves otherwise.
 
Snoop, first it’s nice to see you back again. (y)

As for trump, he was a malignant force in everything that is happening to him, not some poor innocent bystander.

And he won’t catch a single break from anyone. He made sure of that by threatening everyone who ever crossed paths with him. Only a fool would think an illegal procedure flag is going to do anything at this point in the game.

He’s a self absorbed spoiled big city liberal crybaby.
 
I would agree Trump has gotten far worse treatment than any Prez before him. Mostly unfair. But I do believe he has brought at least some of it on himself. And I believe the chasmic divide in the country is partially to blame.

As for the press, Hollywood types, etc- they have always hated R's. Even total moderates like Romney and McCain were vilified by them when they ran for president.

But let's not kid ourselves that it's one sided- if the R's take over congress, Biden will get some seriously unfriendly treatment.
 
Mostly unfair LOL
He has turned on his closest people like a mob Rat.
Gave out more pardons then any other president.
Why did his top friends need a pardon?????????????
 
Snoop, first it’s nice to see you back again. (y)

As for trump, he was a malignant force in everything that is happening to him, not some poor innocent bystander.

And he won’t catch a single break from anyone. He made sure of that by threatening everyone who ever crossed paths with him. Only a fool would think an illegal procedure flag is going to do anything at this point in the game.

He’s a self absorbed spoiled big city liberal crybaby.
Thanks BH, I'm tiptoeing back and hoping Founder keeps chilling. He's let this thread go--kudos to him. Look at the post count! ;)

As for you obvious dislike for Mr. Trump--I get it, he can rub folks the wrong way. I don't disagree about a lot of what you said, but being self-absorbed, etc., still doesn't justify what's happening to him and more telling, what has NOT happened to others on the D side.

I stand by my statement while not discounting yours.
 
Mostly unfair LOL
He has turned on his closest people like a mob Rat.
Gave out more pardons then any other president.
Why did his top friends need a pardon?????????????
Gator--check your facts, homey. Check your facts. Hell, even Wikipedia on the topic of pardons might surprise the HELL out you with your statement.
 
get ready for a false flag. that may , in the end, have been the whole point of this raid. you know, the most dangerous group in the entire world, white nationalist are coming!!!

someone tell me i'm wrong please
 
The thing that keeps amazing me is just how gullible some on here are in regards to lapping up the spoiled pablem the complicit press keeps feeding them.

To put it another way you're taking the words of liars of the biggest farse executed in our nation's history where they we feeding you KNOWN false information to willingly participate in the attempted soft coup d'etat of a duly elected US President.

Why in the hell anyone would believe anything they report shows just how ignorant or dupable or INDOCTRINATED they really are. So since they covered up the involvement of numerous employees of our FBI, DOJ, State Department and other agencies and sitting elected officials what would make you think they're reporting truthful information? Don't you think their credibility is highly suspect to being false to help promote their original objective or hide their complicity,

So to you naysayers I ask, no disrespect intended, you do realize that the Obama administration and the democrat party, green lighted this operation from the start in our intelligence community and was complicit in ILLEGAL SPYING on your fellow americans and setting this farce in motion. THIS WAS PROVEN AND IS PART OF THE RESULTS OF ONE OF THE INVESTGATIONS SO ITS CLEARLY FACT. EVEN WITH THE NUMEROUS ATTEMPTS TO PROVIDE POLITICAL COVER.

So since so many individuals and government agencies were involved in this damn mess just how far do you think the corruption goes? Do you honestly believe this was done to save your country? If so from what? We've had bad Presidents before and the republic survived.

You do realize if these folks had done this in most other countries in the world most of them would be in jail or lined up against the wall and shot.

So what force is keeping them from being held accountable for their actions or crimes? Why didn't you hear the true facts after they revealed the true facts in the media's actual reporting? Seems to be pretty news worthy information doesn't it?

No matter how much you dislike Trump there are things here far more serious to our future as a free nation. How deep is the deep state entrenched in our nation?

How do we get the bad players out in both parties to regain control of our freedoms and adherence to our constitution?

Why the unrelenting attempts to silence Trump at any cost? Trumps the diversion here the real issues are still ongoing, just like that southern border is wide open, contrary to what you're being told. Why is the press hiding this from you?

Think 20 million aliens voting could win a few elections in this country and you think our elective process isn't being rigged. Time to stop believing the illusion and take a hard look at the reality that's going on right under your noses.

Well I've stirred the pot enough time to go fly fishing again!!!
 
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The thing that keeps amazing me is just how gullible some on here are in regards to lapping up the spoiled pablem the complicit press keeps feeding them.

To put it another way you're taking the words of liars of the biggest farse executed in our nation's history where they we feeding you KNOWN false information to willingly participate in the attempted soft coup d'etat of a duly elected US President.

Why in the hell anyone would believe anything they report shows just how ignorant or dupable or INDOCTRINATED they really are. So since they covered up the involvement of numerous employees of our FBI, DOJ, State Department and other agencies and sitting elected officials what would make you think they're reporting truthful information? Don't you think their credibility is highly suspect to being false to help promote their original objective or hide their complicity,

So to you naysayers I ask, no disrespect intended, you do realize that the Obama administration and the democrat party, green lighted this operation from the start in our intelligence community and was complicit in ILLEGAL SPYING on your fellow americans and setting this farce in motion. THIS WAS PROVEN AND IS PART OF THE RESULTS OF ONE OF THE INVESTGATIONS SO ITS CLEARLY FACT. EVEN WITH THE NUMEROUS ATTEMPTS TO PROVIDE POLITICAL COVER.

So since so many individuals and government agencies were involved in this damn mess just how far do you think the corruption goes? Do you honestly believe this was done to save your country? If so from what? We've had bad Presidents before and the republic survived.

You do realize if these folks had done this in most other countries in the world most of them would be in jail or lined up against the wall and shot.

So what force is keeping them from being held accountable for their actions or crimes? Why didn't you hear the true facts after they revealed the true facts in the media's actual reporting? Seems to be pretty news worthy information doesn't it?

No matter how much you dislike Trump there are things here far more serious to our future as a free nation. How deep is the deep state entrenched in our nation?

How do we get the bad players out in both parties to regain control of our freedoms and adherence to our constitution?

Why the unrelenting attempts to silence Trump at any cost? Trumps the diversion here the real issues are still ongoing, just like that southern border is wide open, contrary to what you're being told. Why is the press hiding this from you?

Think 20 million aliens voting could win a few elections in this country and you think our elective process isn't being rigged. Time to stop believing the illusion and take a hard look at the reality that's going on right under your noses.

Well I've stirred the pot enough time to go fly fishing again!!!
Truth…..,Truth? What’s true? If Donald Trump or Joe Biden claimed gravity was truth……. I’d have my doubts……. and so would everybody else.
 
But let's not kid ourselves that it's one sided- if the R's take over congress, Biden will get some seriously unfriendly treatment.
I’d like to think Biden, Faucci, Garland, Wray, etc would see some serious consequences but most of the R’s are just as crooked.

On another note, it’s very easy to know when the narrative is being shoveled to the masses when every single msm outlet is using the EXACT same language on their coverage of an event….dead give away the govt is giving them their talking points.
 
get ready for a false flag. that may , in the end, have been the whole point of this raid. you know, the most dangerous group in the entire world, white nationalist are coming!!!

someone tell me i'm wrong please
Easy there my friend, I was just getting my brain wrapped around the secret blanket declassification of the documents the FBI planted. :unsure:

My feeble head will explode if you don’t slow down.
 
On another note, it’s very easy to know when the narrative is being shoveled to the masses when every single msm outlet is using the EXACT same language on their coverage of an event….dead give away the govt is giving them their talking points.
I'm pretty sure they're just reporting from the official released statements from DOJ & FBI, for good or bad.

Would you feel like the reporting was more reputable if their stories changed by the minute like the other side? Political witch hunt, fishing expedition, planting evidence, gestapo threats, already declassified docs, false flag, Trump would've given them the info if they'd just asked, FBI was installing cameras inside the home, etc...?
 
The thing that keeps amazing me is just how gullible some on here are in regards to lapping up the spoiled pablem the complicit press keeps feeding them.

To put it another way you're taking the words of liars of the biggest farse executed in our nation's history where they we feeding you KNOWN false information to willingly participate in the attempted soft coup d'etat of a duly elected US President.

Why in the hell anyone would believe anything they report shows just how ignorant or dupable or INDOCTRINATED they really are. So since they covered up the involvement of numerous employees of our FBI, DOJ, State Department and other agencies and sitting elected officials what would make you think they're reporting truthful information? Don't you think their credibility is highly suspect to being false to help promote their original objective or hide their complicity,

So to you naysayers I ask, no disrespect intended, you do realize that the Obama administration and the democrat party, green lighted this operation from the start in our intelligence community and was complicit in ILLEGAL SPYING on your fellow americans and setting this farce in motion. THIS WAS PROVEN AND IS PART OF THE RESULTS OF ONE OF THE INVESTGATIONS SO ITS CLEARLY FACT. EVEN WITH THE NUMEROUS ATTEMPTS TO PROVIDE POLITICAL COVER.

So since so many individuals and government agencies were involved in this damn mess just how far do you think the corruption goes? Do you honestly believe this was done to save your country? If so from what? We've had bad Presidents before and the republic survived.

You do realize if these folks had done this in most other countries in the world most of them would be in jail or lined up against the wall and shot.

So what force is keeping them from being held accountable for their actions or crimes? Why didn't you hear the true facts after they revealed the true facts in the media's actual reporting? Seems to be pretty news worthy information doesn't it?

No matter how much you dislike Trump there are things here far more serious to our future as a free nation. How deep is the deep state entrenched in our nation?

How do we get the bad players out in both parties to regain control of our freedoms and adherence to our constitution?

Why the unrelenting attempts to silence Trump at any cost? Trumps the diversion here the real issues are still ongoing, just like that southern border is wide open, contrary to what you're being told. Why is the press hiding this from you?

Think 20 million aliens voting could win a few elections in this country and you think our elective process isn't being rigged. Time to stop believing the illusion and take a hard look at the reality that's going on right under your noses.

Well I've stirred the pot enough time to go fly fishing again!!!
If we’re holding presidents accountable for what government as a whole has done, then GWB deserves much of the blame for the surveillance state. It may have accelerated under Obama, but the horse left the barn with the Patriot Act.
 
This is all a well calculated attack against Trump. Perfect timing really, should take 1-2 months to evaluate all of the documents. This gives the media ample time to hypothesize what they actually could be.
To quote Mark Twain:

“A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes”

All this does is dominate the news cycle and makes most forget about the last two years.
 
If this is just a well calculated attack on poor ol' Trump then the ones calculating sure screwed up because the timing would be better the last week of October No???
 
here's a creditable bit of information regarding our entrusted agencies and their involvment in this whole damn mess. Take a few minutes and listen to the video about how biased things became....and how complicit the agencies were in promoting false information to the american people.

 
Then conversely look who MSNBC brought in to justify the FBI's actions.........This guy look familiar to you for some odd reason.......hmm wasn't he fired from the FBI for his involvement in the ILLEGAL Russian Collusion hoax......


 
Same old song and dance in the 7th act of the same play by the same dirty cops & lawyers. Amazing how many get played by the same corrupt media pushing out what their handlers tell them time and again.
 
This can't be a serious post from somebody that has convicted every Democrat and exonerated Trump at every turn. Regardless of the evidence or lack thereof.

I've said at every turn that I have no clue if Trump is guilty or not, I haven't seen the evidence. And nether have you.

I'll put that morality up against those declaring the FBI is the gestapo, that Biden is Stalin, that evidence was planted, etc... all day, every day.


@ grizzly I am curious.

You have seen the evidence that Hillary set up a private server, sent/eived classified info (btw, Obama was emailing that private server so he too broke protocol if not law), that she used bleach bit to wipe said server, and smashed gov blackberry devices. All of that is known.

Should she have faced charges similar to what Trump would be facing?

Second. If so, why wasn't she charged? One of the "crimes" listed on warrant was destruction of gov records. Why wasn't she charged?

And since she wasn't, why should he?
 
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just give it up Hoss. people like Grizzly will believe anything their told to by the TV. i mean for Gods sake, in the last 6 years they have gone from pron stars to hiding nukes under the bed and everything in between (remember MSNBC saying the creepy porn lawyer should run for president? :ROFLMAO: ). Russia nothing burger for two years, millions on investigations they knew were based on lies, and blah, blah, blah, blah.

i know it feels mean to just call people out right dumb, but if someone cant see whats right in front of their face for what it is you are ether dumb, or if you do and continue to tote the line, dishonest. you pick, but its one of them.
 
@ grizzly I am curious.

You have seen the evidence that Hillary set up a private server, sent/eived classified info (btw, Obama was emailing that private server so he too broke protocol if not law), that she used bleach bit to wipe said server, and smashed gov blackberry devices. All of that is known.

Should she have faced charges similar to what Trump would be facing?

Second. If so, why wasn't she charged? One of the "crimes" listed on warrant was destruction of gov records. Why wasn't she charged?

And since she wasn't, why should he?
I've said a hundred times over that I'm not convicting anybody because I haven't seen the evidence and neither has anybody else here... even the people who say Trump's innocent are just wishful thinking. They don't know jack squat.

With that said, if Trump is guilty, lock him up for a decade, or however long is appropriate under sentencing guidelines.

I also haven't seen the evidence on Hillary. Neither have you, regardless of what you hear on your podcasts and read on your far-right web pages.

With that said, if Hillary is guilty, lock her up for a decade, or however long is appropriate under sentencing guidelines

I keep thinking some day you guys will be able to have a discussion about a Trumpist bring investigated/charged with a crime and deal with that situation on it's face. Instead, it's a constant merry-go-round of unrelated Biden, Clinton, Obama accusations.

One person's guilt or innocence has ONE HUNDRED PERCENT NOTHING to do with somebody else's guilt or innocence in an unrelated matter. You seem to think that all politicians have to be treated the same. I think your parents forgot to teach you the world isn't fair, and if somebody wants to be treated fairly then they were an idiot for getting into politics.

If somebody commits a crime... lock them up. I couldn't care less what their name or political party are.
 
Why does it seem that it is only the Democrats that seem to escape being charged with a crime. Biden is on video tape admitting to extortion and he even pulled Obama into the crime by stating that Obama was in agreement on with holding the funds to Ukraine if the prosecutor was not fired before Biden flew out of the country.
Sounds like the only evidence you will accept on criminal acts is that the suspect must give a full confession to the crime.

RELH
 
Trump will be perp walked mid October.......that will be the trigger that I fear....and the left prays for.....God help us. When it happens I pray the right s'stfu and just votes hard
 
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Why does it seem that it is only the Democrats that seem to escape being charged with a crime.
Your hypothesis would mean one of two things must be true, either: (1) Republicans commit more crimes than Democrats or (2) Democrats get away with more crimes than Republicans.

Some people can't stomach the idea that Republicans commit more crimes so they must therefore be convinced it's the alternative option.

Their concern then becomes about a perceived inequality rather than the commission of the crime. This, to me, is backwards. I want law-abiding officials, I have no interest in letting them all be criminals just because the last person got away with it, too.

I focus on the crime, not some theory of inequity.

Nothing is more pathetic than some ex-President claiming he's the most powerful person in the world and then in the next sentence whining about being treated unfairly. You're either a boss or a victim, you can't be both.
 
Which Barkeep are you folks getting the news scoop on the new information.
Never heard back WHY the top secret paperwork wasn't returned in June along with other paperwork.
FBI say's they don't have his Passport, So I'm just guessing that is another smokescreen by Trumps people.
 
You are right on the pardons go to show ya what you read on the web is SOMETIMES wrong.
 
Which Barkeep are you folks getting the news scoop on the new information.
Never heard back WHY the top secret paperwork wasn't returned in June along with other paperwork.
FBI say's they don't have his Passport, So I'm just guessing that is another smokescreen by Trumps people.
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Your hypothesis would mean one of two things must be true, either: (1) Republicans commit more crimes than Democrats or (2) Democrats get away with more crimes than Republicans.

Some people can't stomach the idea that Republicans commit more crimes so they must therefore be convinced it's the alternative option.

Their concern then becomes about a perceived inequality rather than the commission of the crime. This, to me, is backwards. I want law-abiding officials, I have no interest in letting them all be criminals just because the last person got away with it, too.

I focus on the crime, not some theory of inequity.

Nothing is more pathetic than some ex-President claiming he's the most powerful person in the world and then in the next sentence whining about being treated unfairly. You're either a boss or a victim, you can't be both.
A blind man can see the inequality.....you refuse to
 
Appears they are spying on him again with an additional warrant? Pen/Trap and Trace allows them to monitor any phone & electronic/computer communications
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I cant wait for the turnabout. When
Which Barkeep are you folks getting the news scoop on the new information.
Never heard back WHY the top secret paperwork wasn't returned in June along with other paperwork.
FBI say's they don't have his Passport, So I'm just guessing that is another smokescreen by Trumps people.

Durrrrr, because the FBI hasnt lied about Trump 10000 times already.

They did have his passports and have returned them now that Trump made it public.
 
They need to release the affidavit but they won't. They will come out with their standard nonsense that it could compromise their sources/methods and other intel speak gobbledegook. They are going to selectively leak bits and pieces to their intel source friends in the media to further their narrative that orange man bad. Russia, Russia, Russia was hanging over the '18 midterm election and it cost the R's the House. This might be more of the same
 
I've said a hundred times over that I'm not convicting anybody because I haven't seen the evidence and neither has anybody else here... even the people who say Trump's innocent are just wishful thinking. They don't know jack squat.

With that said, if Trump is guilty, lock him up for a decade, or however long is appropriate under sentencing guidelines.

I also haven't seen the evidence on Hillary. Neither have you, regardless of what you hear on your podcasts and read on your far-right web pages.

With that said, if Hillary is guilty, lock her up for a decade, or however long is appropriate under sentencing guidelines

I keep thinking some day you guys will be able to have a discussion about a Trumpist bring investigated/charged with a crime and deal with that situation on it's face. Instead, it's a constant merry-go-round of unrelated Biden, Clinton, Obama accusations.

One person's guilt or innocence has ONE HUNDRED PERCENT NOTHING to do with somebody else's guilt or innocence in an unrelated matter. You seem to think that all politicians have to be treated the same. I think your parents forgot to teach you the world isn't fair, and if somebody wants to be treated fairly then they were an idiot for getting into politics.

If somebody commits a crime... lock them up. I couldn't care less what their name or political party are.


You should notice. I specifically asked about Hillary, and your first 2paragraphs were about Trump.

Ironic since you're the first to say, "what aboutism".

I think you seem confused about the law. The law, is either equal regardless of political party, sex, color, or we dont have a legal system. You seem unable to seperate paw from politics for some reason, do you not know the difference?

Justice is supposed to be blind, remember?
 
@grizzly

Now you know the evidence, you can stop claiming otherwise






Notice I used left leaning media, and James Comey himself

Might be time for you to listen to a podcast, not MSNBC.

Or, just watch CNN.

Either way, you don't get to be the "smartest guy in the room", and play ignorant.
 
FBI say's they don't have his Passport, So I'm just guessing that is another smokescreen by Trumps people.
They changed their story- they did take 3 passports (2 expired, 1 active)- and have offered to return them.

Why in the world would they take passports? Dumb...
 
You should notice. I specifically asked about Hillary, and your first 2paragraphs were about Trump.

Ironic since you're the first to say, "what aboutism".

I think you seem confused about the law. The law, is either equal regardless of political party, sex, color, or we dont have a legal system. You seem unable to seperate paw from politics for some reason, do you not know the difference?

Justice is supposed to be blind, remember?
Your first question was literally, "Should she have faced charges similar to what Trump would be facing?"

It was a comparison of Trump and Hillary, so I answered it that way.

Your second question was about Hillary and I answered that by saying I don't know the evidence. (You posting news articles isn't evidence, which is, of course, why you disregard news articles about allegations against Trump. If you viewed them equally, you would have realized your hypocrisy. No court is going to convict somebody on any news article, and neither am I.)

Your third question was, "And since she wasn't, why should he?" Again, another comparison of the two.

The "whataboutism" is all yours.

You aren't even able to ask hypothetical questions without bringing up Hillary when you apparently thought you were doing just that.
 
Your first question was literally, "Should she have faced charges similar to what Trump would be facing?"

It was a comparison of Trump and Hillary, so I answered it that way.

Your second question was about Hillary and I answered that by saying I don't know the evidence. (You posting news articles isn't evidence, which is, of course, why you disregard news articles about allegations against Trump. If you viewed them equally, you would have realized your hypocrisy.

Your third question was, "And since she wasn't, why should he?" Again, another comparison of the two.

The "whataboutism" is all yours.

You aren't even able to ask hypothetical questions without bringing up Hillary when you apparently thought you were.


I LITERALLY posted the press release from the director of the FBI.

LITERALLY.

I know you can read. Read the damn statement. He, JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR, says she emailed CLASSIFIED INFO from her private server.

Do you need it in braille?
 
Which Barkeep are you folks getting the news scoop on the new information.
Never heard back WHY the top secret paperwork wasn't returned in June along with other paperwork.
FBI say's they don't have his Passport, So I'm just guessing that is another smokescreen by Trumps people.


If it was so important, and dangerous, why did the FBI leave it there?
 
I LITERALLY posted the press release from the director of the FBI.

LITERALLY.

I know you can read. Read the damn statement. He, JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR, says she emailed CLASSIFIED INFO from her private server.

Do you need it in braille?
Haha. So now your evidence against Hillary is a statement from the FBI? But you disregard everything the FBI says about Trump because they're dirty? Haha.

Please tell me you see how stupid that is!

Maybe some of your own words will help you....

- "Do I have proof the FBI is dirty? Should we ask Trump, John Lennon, or MLK?"

- "They were busy kidnapping Gretchen Witmer"

- "The FBI is dirty. Or more correct, the leadership at the FBI is."

You'll believe anything you read as long as it's what it want to hear. That's not a good position to be in, you should think about that for a bit.

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I'll slow down for you.... A statement from the FBI isn't evidence. They've made statements about Trump too and I'm not convicting him based on them. I don't know the completeness or accuracy of their statements, that's why we have courts. It's similar to a police report, it's the thoughts of somebody in law enforcement, that's all. It may be enough to charge somebody, but it's not enough to convict.
 
Haha. So now your evidence against Hillary is a statement from the FBI? But you disregard everything the FBI says about Trump because they're dirty? Haha.

Please tell me you see how stupid that is!

Maybe some of your own words will help you....

- "Do I have proof the FBI is dirty? Should we ask Trump, John Lennon, or MLK?"

- "They were busy kidnapping Gretchen Witmer"

- "The FBI is dirty. Or more correct, the leadership at the FBI is."

You'll believe anything you read as long as it's what it want to hear. That's not a good position to be in, you should think about that for a bit.

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I'll slow down for you.... A statement from the FBI isn't evidence. They've made statements about Trump too and I'm not convicting him based on them. I don't know the completeness or accuracy of their statements, that's why we have courts. It's similar to a police report, it's the thoughts of somebody in law enforcement, that's all. It may be enough to charge somebody, but it's not enough to convict.

No ****? That's why we have courts? So you mean, when the FBI, collects evidence, that shows criminal activity, it should go to a court?

I'll be damned. We agree.

On a side note.

Why do you recon they grabbed his passports? Were they of national security importance?
 
No ****? That's why we have courts? So you mean, when the FBI, collects evidence, that shows criminal activity, it should go to a court?

I'll be damned. We agree.

On a side note.

Why do you recon they grabbed his passports? Were they of national security importance?
No clue. If they weren't on the warrant, they need to be returned because they shouldn't have taken them. They might have his old check stubs and a receipt for his McDonald's, too.

I don't know because I haven't seen the evidence.
 
I think we need to just ignore Grizzly and his rants as it appears he is nothing but a troll.
RELH
 
See post 544 - actual e-mail of person involved, they took his passports, got caught in their over reaching warrant and will be returning them, they also took attorney client privileged docs, not smart!
All these folks were wrong! But Adam is such a stand up guy he's on the J-6 and must be trusted.
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No clue. If they weren't on the warrant, they need to be returned because they shouldn't have taken them. They might have his old check stubs and a receipt for his McDonald's, too.

I don't know because I haven't seen the evidence.


Ya.

Cuz 3 little blue colored books that say PASSPORT on them, are the same as a McDonalds receipt.


How do you suppose you're going to "see the evidence"?

It's classified, remember.?

So, we are right back to trusting the FBI/DOJ, aren't we?
 
Campfire discussion at 2022 deer hunt camp, grizz and hossblur.

Grizz; hossblur that was a bad shot on that big buck today.
Hossblur; grizz you made a bad shot yesterday.
Grizz; hossblur that is "whataboutisiam" we can not discuss the missed shot from yesterday.
Hossblur: It was still a bad shot.
Grizz; I am going to bed.

Grizz I bet you are a riot at a campfire.
 
Ya.

Cuz 3 little blue colored books that say PASSPORT on them, are the same as a McDonalds receipt.


How do you suppose you're going to "see the evidence"?

It's classified, remember.?

So, we are right back to trusting the FBI/DOJ, aren't we?
If he gets charged, we'll see the evidence in court. If not, we won't. I'm comfortable with that. Others aren't comfortable with that, they demand he be hanged or exonerated right now. I don't care enough to have a sense of urgency. It'll all play out... but, I appear to have more faith in the system than some, too.

I already said if the passports weren't on the warrant, they need to be returned. There's nothing more I can do. I assure you that I don't have the passports so all the (un)righteous indignation in the world from me isn't going to change a thing.

I think we need to just ignore Grizzly and his rants as it appears he is nothing but a troll.
RELH
Countless personal attacks against me when I haven't levied any against others... and I'm the troll? Haha. You just don't like that I disagree with you and can do it in a thoughtful and articulate way.

Come on, you've been around long enough to have people shoot holes in your arguments and not get your feelings hurt, right?

If you want an echo chamber where the only voices you hear are those telling you you're right and that everything you believe is perfect then you and JP and hoss and a few others can pat each other on the back and tell each other how you've got it all figured out, go for it. I don't ignore you just because you're pro-Trump, but if it bothers you that somebody dare questions you then that's fine with me. Ignore away.
 
They need to release the affidavit but they won't. They will come out with their standard nonsense that it could compromise their sources/methods and other intel speak gobbledegook. They are going to selectively leak bits and pieces to their intel source friends in the media to further their narrative that orange man bad. Russia, Russia, Russia was hanging over the '18 midterm election and it cost the R's the House. This might be more of the same
Trump cost the R’s the house. In case you haven’t noticed, he doesn’t appeal to much of America. The members of this website are not representative of America.
 
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They changed their story- they did take 3 passports (2 expired, 1 active)- and have offered to return them.

Why in the world would they take passports? Dumb...
It was a diplomatic passport. Anyone know how long a former prez get to keep diplomatic travel status? I would imagine forever?

The passport is a sideshow.
 
Why does it seem that it is only the Democrats that seem to escape being charged with a crime. Biden is on video tape admitting to extortion and he even pulled Obama into the crime by stating that Obama was in agreement on with holding the funds to Ukraine if the prosecutor was not fired before Biden flew out of the country.
Sounds like the only evidence you will accept on criminal acts is that the suspect must give a full confession to the crime.

RELH
Possibly because the republicans (party) are stupid? What other explanation could there possibly be? After all, they’ve known the rules of the game now for 30 years or so.

They should consider new leadership. Any other business would have the fired the boss by now.
 
If he gets charged, we'll see the evidence in court. If not, we won't. I'm comfortable with that. Others aren't comfortable with that, they demand he be hanged or exonerated right now. I don't care enough to have a sense of urgency. It'll all play out... but, I appear to have more faith in the system than some, too.

I already said if the passports weren't on the warrant, they need to be returned. There's nothing more I can do. I assure you that I don't have the passports so all the (un)righteous indignation in the world from me isn't going to change a thing.


Countless personal attacks against me when I haven't levied any against others... and I'm the troll? Haha. You just don't like that I disagree with you and can do it in a thoughtful and articulate way.

Come on, you've been around long enough to have people shoot holes in your arguments and not get your feelings hurt, right?

If you want an echo chamber where the only voices you hear are those telling you you're right and that everything you believe is perfect then you and JP and hoss and a few others can pat each other on the back and tell each other how you've got it all figured out, go for it. I don't ignore you just because you're pro-Trump, but if it bothers you that somebody dare questions you then that's fine with me. Ignore away.
Amen.

The personal attacks are over the top. Fortunately most of the rest of the world (outside the echo chamber here) understands that as an admission of defeat.

The Hillary crap is so old. Don’t bother to ask yourself why trump couldn’t get it done while controlling the same levers that biden apparently was able to use to steal his little blue book from Melania’s panty drawer. Again, gross incompetence.
 
Trump cost the R’s the house. In case you haven’t noticed, he doesn’t appeal to much of America. The members of this website are not representative of America.

You are correct, this site leans right. I'm not so certain on the impact across the nation though. It certainly has galvanized both extremes- Trump haters and Trump lovers. I wonder if the independents care if Trump had documents from his time in the administration, legal or not. Now if they prove something more nefarious, by say... October ... then it will certainly swing the midterms.
 
If he gets charged, we'll see the evidence in court. If not, we won't. I'm comfortable with that. Others aren't comfortable with that, they demand he be hanged or exonerated right now. I don't care enough to have a sense of urgency. It'll all play out... but, I appear to have more faith in the system than some, too.

I already said if the passports weren't on the warrant, they need to be returned. There's nothing more I can do. I assure you that I don't have the passports so all the (un)righteous indignation in the world from me isn't going to change a thing.


Countless personal attacks against me when I haven't levied any against others... and I'm the troll? Haha. You just don't like that I disagree with you and can do it in a thoughtful and articulate way.

Come on, you've been around long enough to have people shoot holes in your arguments and not get your feelings hurt, right?

If you want an echo chamber where the only voices you hear are those telling you you're right and that everything you believe is perfect then you and JP and hoss and a few others can pat each other on the back and tell each other how you've got it all figured out, go for it. I don't ignore you just because you're pro-Trump, but if it bothers you that somebody dare questions you then that's fine with me. Ignore away.


AGAIN because you love to gloss over, or completely ignore the point.

I agree. We should see in court. The FBI, however, despite fairly similar circumstances, in the Clinton case decided it was the court, and in this case, is swiping passports.

The irritation isn't with court(I doubt it will go there there are constitutional factors in declassification that will need addressing), the irritation is with the FBI, and the blatant political dealings they are involved with.

Since 2016, the acting director(McCabe) was fired for lying. A lawyer(Clinesmith), found guilty of creating fraudulent documents in Russiagate investigation. The Inspector General criticizing them after over a dozen plus errors found in FISA apps, as being sloppy at best.

Yet, we should look the other way, and pretend everything is on the up and up with them. That, is the frustration.
 
It was a diplomatic passport. Anyone know how long a former prez get to keep diplomatic travel status? I would imagine forever?

The passport is a sideshow.
In the big picture it is a sideshow.

In the minds of Trump lovers- it "proves" the FBI is messing with Trump. You have to admit- it looks bad in this sense:

The FBI should be the most highly skilled, professional law enforcement body in the nation. And when they raid a former president, they would send their very best. Passports were certainly not on the warrant. The FBI knows what a passport looks like. But they took them. Why?
 
Amen.

The personal attacks are over the top. Fortunately most of the rest of the world (outside the echo chamber here) understands that as an admission of defeat.

The Hillary crap is so old. Don’t bother to ask yourself why trump couldn’t get it done while controlling the same levers that biden apparently was able to use to steal his little blue book from Melania’s panty drawer. Again, gross incompetence.

Sure be interesting when she decides to run again again.

Maybe?

Is that why the FBI has been sitting on Hunter Bidens laptop, denying they had it for nearly 2 years? Should we pretend that's not politically motivated?

Or yet another coincidence?
 
In the big picture it is a sideshow.

In the minds of Trump lovers- it "proves" the FBI is messing with Trump. You have to admit- it looks bad in this sense:

The FBI should be the most highly skilled, professional law enforcement body in the nation. And when they raid a former president, they would send their very best. Passports were certainly not on the warrant. The FBI knows what a passport looks like. But they took them. Why?


You'd be pretending the leadership in the FBI is the most highly skilled and professional. Not sure what you'd be basing that assumption on. Not history. Not recent time either.

They've inserted themselves into 4 election cycles in a row. 16, 18, 20, and 22. At some point doesn't that stop being coincidence?
 
You'd be pretending the leadership in the FBI is the most highly skilled and professional. Not sure what you'd be basing that assumption on. Not history. Not recent time either.

They've inserted themselves into 4 election cycles in a row. 16, 18, 20, and 22. At some point doesn't that stop being coincidence?
Not pretending that Hoss- thus the words "should be". I cannot fathom why they would take the passports. Some might wonder what else they took- maybe that unsent, handwritten note to Epstein about the great time he had on the Lolita Express :ROFLMAO:?
 
Passports, there were 3.

This entire thing is a sideshow.
An expired passport is a keepsake the same as an expired drivers license. Most of us keep our expired ones out of vanity.

Does a diplomatic passport even get stamped? I can’t see the prez standing in the customs hall with the rest of us lambs.
 
Boy all you guys need to get out and hunt or scout for upcoming hunts. It has been very entertaining. Sort of breezed through the last 20 posts but have kept up with this from the beginning.
FACTS - their is a small handful here who hate Trump so much they will never see what actually goes on around them.

Other have written some very intelligent and well written posts that the above mentioned small handful need to read and reread until logic slowly creeps into their brains.

Have a good day everyone.
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The passports are only a sideshow because there was no incriminating data found in them. However, like a UFO sighting, long after it’s been disproved and the truth has been explained, the UFO nut jobs will be showing images and claiming they are proof of alien visitors.

How many other times in the past has Trump been called a liar, been proven truthful and still his hater quote the claim?

He got impeached for doing nothing less than what just happened again. Side show my a$$.
 
An expired passport is a keepsake the same as an expired drivers license. Most of us keep our expired ones out of vanity.

Does a diplomatic passport even get stamped? I can’t see the prez standing in the customs hall with the rest of us lambs.


I don't know, he might take ag products in his suitcase, hes pretty famous for his vegan lifestyle
 
Eel are you saying you have truth when some guy post his view on here you mean a rumor from the bartender isn't enough.
LOL
I believe about 10% i see and hear on here. So that buck is how big.
 
The passports are only a sideshow because there was no incriminating data found in them. However, like a UFO sighting, long after it’s been disproved and the truth has been explained, the UFO nut jobs will be showing images and claiming they are proof of alien visitors.

How many other times in the past has Trump been called a liar, been proven truthful and still his hater quote the claim?

He got impeached for doing nothing less than what just happened again. Side show my a$$.
I’m confused. Why would his passport matter one bit about anything? Other than perhaps someone is a bonehead. I’ll await the explanation.

Until then, this whole passport thing is nothing but a diversion because everyone already knows where the prez goes. It’s not like he has a Russian stamp in there from that time he sold Ashleys diary and Hunters laptop to that Steele guy.

Lets see “which side” uses it. ;)
 
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I don't know, he might take ag products in his suitcase, hes pretty famous for his vegan lifestyle
Yet more evidence that the prez doesn’t clear customs like the rest of us. His arrest record would be extensive.

 
So why not give a little clarity on just how the game has been played. True the passports are a side show but look how the democrats propaganda machine, prop up and promote the false narrative. Journalism is this country has turned the corner on actual reporting into being a mouthpiece for the party and throwing dirt on anything outside the parties position. It's not a coincidence this is what lures you in, it's all done to keep you believing the party line like a good little comrades.

They just throw a little more fuel on the fires of hate they managed to cultivate against Trump. Trump has helped them too but in reality he's far tamer than the portray him, (but he's easy to dislike). Many of the things he did were good but the press never acknowledged it and it was all twisted to show it in a negative light.

You grew up learning to believe the news casters in this country and then then turned on you into a party propaganda platform, where the cancel culture and any thoughts opposed to the party narrative are unacceptable and must be put down......See How easy it is to silence your free speech, opposing view points, and some of the freedom you've enjoyed in you life.

So good old Norah O'Donnell. Lester Holt, Dan Rather, Morning Joe, Erin Bernett, Joy and good old Maddow, along with the majority of the other newscasters on the propaganda networks have known the truth all along and lied to you to support the party. Couple that with the FBI, DOJ and other government agencies promoting the party line and we wind up where we are today.

Fox news is biased too but they got the majority of the issues right in the whole damn mess and the other guys just fed you crap and indoctrinated you for the party politic.

Take the time to look at this and you'll see just how interwoven the duping of the american people is done. This happened on just one little item can you imagine how coordinated things were in the whole Russian collusion mess and Trumps entire presidency.......Evil forces are hard at work and it's not to protect your rights.

 
An expired passport is a keepsake the same as an expired drivers license. Most of us keep our expired ones out of vanity.

Does a diplomatic passport even get stamped? I can’t see the prez standing in the customs hall with the rest of us lambs.
It was all three of his passports, can you not read? jfc
 
I’m confused. Why would his passport matter one bit about anything? Other than perhaps someone is a bonehead. I’ll await the explanation.

Until then, this whole passport thing is nothing but a diversion because everyone already knows where the prez goes. It’s not like he has a Russian stamp in there from that time he sold Ashleys diary and Hunters laptop to that Steele guy.

Lets see “which side” uses it. ;)
Okay, I’ll explain it for Cuz, because I’m an idiot.

When you’re fishing…….. you sneak into the honey hole an pitch that gob of stink bait under every lilly pad, hoping there just might be something good in there.

Do I need to translate that into the political world for ya?

It ain’t the passports or the classified, the unclassified documents or the First Lady’s thong………. It’s a throwing the stink bait in their to see if, MAYBE, theirs a fish to catch. Leave no stone unturned……… that was obviously the reason for going fishing.

Then they lied about it………. Just like you do about your honey hole…….. until you make sure there’s nothing in it……..then you’ll let anyboby fish there.

Come on blue….. you’re way smarter than this. I’m the idiot here Cuz, cuz here I am wasting both our time again.
 
Okay, I’ll explain it for Cuz, because I’m an idiot.

When you’re fishing…….. you sneak into the honey hole an pitch that gob of stink bait under every lilly pad, hoping there just might be something good in there.

Do I need to translate that into the political world for ya?

It ain’t the passports or the classified, the unclassified documents or the First Lady’s thong………. It’s a throwing the stink bait in their to see if, MAYBE, theirs a fish to catch. Leave no stone unturned……… that was obviously the reason for going fishing.

Then they lied about it………. Just like you do about your honey hole…….. until you make sure there’s nothing in it……..then you’ll let anyboby fish there.

Come on blue….. you’re way smarter than this. I’m the idiot here Cuz, cuz here I am wasting both our time again.
Ok, I’ll ask again. What could possibly be in his passport that could be of ANY interest to ANYBODY?

The only reason to confiscate a passport would be to restrict travel. I haven’t heard anyone credible claim that as motive.

And last I read there were 3 passports - 2 expired and his “diplomatic passport”. It may be possible to have an eletist “diplomatic passport” and also a regular citizens passport, but I don’t know.

An expired passport is useless for anything.
 
So why not give a little clarity on just how the game has been played. True the passports are a side show but look how the democrats propaganda machine, prop up and promote the false narrative. Journalism is this country has turned the corner on actual reporting into being a mouthpiece for the party and throwing dirt on anything outside the parties position. It's not a coincidence this is what lures you in, it's all done to keep you believing the party line like a good little comrades.

They just throw a little more fuel on the fires of hate they managed to cultivate against Trump. Trump has helped them too but in reality he's far tamer than the portray him, (but he's easy to dislike). Many of the things he did were good but the press never acknowledged it and it was all twisted to show it in a negative light.

You grew up learning to believe the news casters in this country and then then turned on you into a party propaganda platform, where the cancel culture and any thoughts opposed to the party narrative are unacceptable and must be put down......See How easy it is to silence your free speech, opposing view points, and some of the freedom you've enjoyed in you life.

So good old Norah O'Donnell. Lester Holt, Dan Rather, Morning Joe, Erin Bernett, Joy and good old Maddow, along with the majority of the other newscasters on the propaganda networks have known the truth all along and lied to you to support the party. Couple that with the FBI, DOJ and other government agencies promoting the party line and we wind up where we are today.

Fox news is biased too but they got the majority of the issues right in the whole damn mess and the other guys just fed you crap and indoctrinated you for the party politic.

Take the time to look at this and you'll see just how interwoven the duping of the american people is done. This happened on just one little item can you imagine how coordinated things were in the whole Russian collusion mess and Trumps entire presidency.......Evil forces are hard at work and it's not to protect your rights.

You bemoan media bias, and post an article from a biased news source crying about media bias. :ROFLMAO:

There were about 4 substantive words in there about Passportgate. I expect a little more red meat than that from you.
 
Ok here's a little more clarity on the Raid on Mar A Lago and pay attention to how all of this overlaps in today's world. It's along video but it shows how we're being handled. Notice how the media help fuel the narratives. FYI

 
Oh come on bluehair,,,,,,,,it's just explaining how we're all getting played and the article lays it right out there. You already know how the games played..... many of these guys have no idea of the scope or the forces being utilized against us and it lays it out there quite well.

I would like to believe you support our rights and freedoms and most assuridly aren't looking to take any of those freedoms away. In fact I know you do but the only way to flush out the cockroaches is exposing them.

The other article I posted up has a little more red meat in it for you, that way we can see how things they be a changin and infringin on our rights. Funny how they're starting to act like a more totalitarian government isn't it? Why the party that accused Trump of colluding with Russia is starting to look and act like Russia more and more. Hmmm.

Besides try as I may articles by the socialist party politc on planning and desminating, what tactics they're planning on using to trick, manipulate and indoctrinate us seem to be in short supply. But fear not they're as tight lipped about their tactics, as they were about their unilateral decision to increase the size of the IRS by 87,000 agents. I'm sure that gives all americans a warm comfy feeling, doubling the strength of the most feared & powerful agency in federal government.
 
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Ok, I’ll ask again. What could possibly be in his passport that could be of ANY interest to ANYBODY?

The only reason to confiscate a passport would be to restrict travel. I haven’t heard anyone credible claim that as motive.

And last I read there were 3 passports - 2 expired and his “diplomatic passport”. It may be possible to have an eletist “diplomatic passport” and also a regular citizens passport, but I don’t know.

An expired passport is useless for anything.
Agent: Hey Boss, I just found his passports.

Boss: Throw’em in the box.

Agent: That the hell for.

Boss: I told you, we’re gonna look through everything, how the hell do we know what he’s put in those passports. We’re looking for anything that might work.

Next day.

Boss: Hello.

Reporter: Hi this is the Media, Trump says you took his passworks.

Boss: He’s a GD liar. We don’t have them.

Agent: Boss, theirs nothing in this passports.

Trump Lawyer: Hey Boss, we want those passports back.

Boss: FY. Here!

Boss: The passports a nothing but a sideshow. Trumps a liar.

Media: Passports are a sideshow, Trumps a liar.

Your right blue it’s not about the passports because there is nothing of use in them and they didn’t take them because they’re stupid, they took them to see if there was anything in them…..they are fishing. Their fishing is NOT A SIDESHOW, it’s as transparent as you live room window. Admit it and get over it. It doesn’t look good on you.
 
Taking of the passports was a foolish screw up by the FBI. It showed they went beyound the scope of the search warrant.
You should be worried about Trump wanting the search warrant affidavit made public and the DOJ refusing to do so "because it may hinder the investigation". Bull $hit it probably shows that the warrant was based on a so called confidential informant that may not exist and they know Trump's attorneys will demand that informant be revealed so he/she can be cross examined in a court of law.
I have written many search warrants as a LEO and I can tell when they are trying to hide something. Just like they did on the FISA search warrants. If it goes to court they will then hide behind the law that allows them to not reveal the informant on the basis it will put the informants life at risk and we will never know if there was a real informant in the first place.
If that search warrant is on the up and up, DOJ should not fear making it public. They have already seized the so called evidence they wanted and revealing the affidavit will not hinder their investigation.
RELH
 
Taking of the passports was a foolish screw up by the FBI. It showed they went beyound the scope of the search warrant.
You should be worried about Trump wanting the search warrant affidavit made public and the DOJ refusing to do so "because it may hinder the investigation". Bull $hit it probably shows that the warrant was based on a so called confidential informant that may not exist and they know Trump's attorneys will demand that informant be revealed so he/she can be cross examined in a court of law.
I have written many search warrants as a LEO and I can tell when they are trying to hide something. Just like they did on the FISA search warrants. If it goes to court they will then hide behind the law that allows them to not reveal the informant on the basis it will put the informants life at risk and we will never know if there was a real informant in the first place.
If that search warrant is on the up and up, DOJ should not fear making it public. They have already seized the so called evidence they wanted and revealing the affidavit will not hinder their investigation.
RELH
It was a screw up. But who is gonna punish them? It is that type of overreach by .gov officials that sorta just gets brushed under the rug.
 
Ok, I’ll ask again. What could possibly be in his passport that could be of ANY interest to ANYBODY?

The only reason to confiscate a passport would be to restrict travel. I haven’t heard anyone credible claim that as motive.

And last I read there were 3 passports - 2 expired and his “diplomatic passport”. It may be possible to have an eletist “diplomatic passport” and also a regular citizens passport, but I don’t know.

An expired passport is useless for anything.


If you read any left wing info, they were yapping like seals.

First, the dumbest ones were orgasmic in relaying that his passports were "seized" meaning he's a flight risk due to impending charges.

The usual dumb ones just like any media story that pushes the "criminal" stories.

Not sure how you "oooopppsss", by grabbing 3 passports, despite having an insider that told the FBI where and these super top secret documents were.

Even further. They took them to DC. Then LIED saying they "weren't in possession" of them. Not that they didn't have them. Again, thanks to the orgasmic far left media, like CBS, and Norah O'Donnell, the "Trump's a liar" narrative comes out.

Then, just to further irritate, the passports are "available to be picked up", in DC.

So it's up to a private citizen to travel to DC to pick up passports the FBI should never have taken, then lied about having, rather then THEY return them, ON CAMERA like the raid.


It's narrative building by the FBI and the media
 
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