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672 and 1268… So a big increase.
Enough that those that want a tag will pay the price. At least the TF is counting on that, while the outfitters get booked out a few more years and lease up what little private land is left to hunt on.
That is the big issue. The outfitters pushing for this as they believe it is a path to more it’s, and income… I have a feeling if you asked the outfitters they would prefer to see the lock cost 3-4 times higher than proposed…
You sure about that?
Yep, those tag prices are designed to kick the average guy in the sack.
Go ahead and start in your own state telling the outfitters to piss off
No
True.
It's been a problem all across the west in every state. Just more so now that western hunting has gotten more and more popular
No
I know Colorado residents that get multiple tags a year for deer, elk and pronghorn.
why did you scam your handicap hunter "friend" out of his points for one of the hardest deer units to draw..
This is all about the outfitters. it is their idea and they are the ones pushing this in order to increase the draw odds of their wealthy clients.
That's simply untrue, they were never happy with the way "it was" and they still aren't. If they were able to keep 50% of the tags for the outfitter draw, they'd want 75% the next year...just the way it is with them. If they could pull it off, every single hunter would be required to pay for an outfitted hunt...come on man.
Correct, and I hate to inform your buddy, but cleaning trails is helping the USFS, not the GF or wildlife. Plus, many of the trails they clean have very little traffic on them from anything other than their clients.
Truth. I get so many tags between me and my two younguns we don't even hunt them all. In Colorado. And our allocation is actually 55 percent after the landowner set asides and nonresident 35 percent. Tags are all over with some planning.
Again with the outfitters, the outfitters are a business trying to survive in a hostile environment brought about by the residents. they were happy the way it was but that's not something they can sustain any longer , so don't put this turd in their pocket.
They can't use Access Yes so I kind of get the not contributing. They darn sure don't contribute to wildlife management. Their licence fees go to the Wyo Outfitter Board. which they use to self-police their industry
I think you mean leasing private land.
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I know it probably doesn't amount to much, but when I draw a tag out west in a state that is favorable to DIY nonresident like myself, I make sure to spend all my ancillary dollars in that state. On my recent antelope hunt for my son, we flew into Denver, but bought all our camping gear in Wyoming, stayed in Wyoming hotels when we weren't camping afield, ate at local Wyoming restaurants when we weren't camping, and when we got got done, found a local Wyoming resident with 2 young daughters to give all our camping gear to ( sleeping bags, camp stove, cookware, etc to) in the hopes their Dad would get them involved in the outdoors as they aged.
Whatever you say.
Except the supply wasn't cut in half and the outfitters still pushed to raise the nr license fees.
Bahahaha you're trying to tell me that non residents spend more at restaurants for a week or 2 that they are here over a resident who lives here all year?! Yea right!!!! Hahaha some very skewed data you have there
Your understanding of economics is laughable.
Oh and since you're so worried about the outfitting industry show us the receipts from the last guided hunt you booked in Wyoming. Surely with your concern over the low wages and inflation that guides and outfitters are suffering under you must be using their services? Yes?
And nonhunter recreational users. I always ask small town service providers if they are busy when I'm there in hunting seasons. They always say not as busy as we are in the summer. We aren't as important to local economy as some others.
This is a major flaw in the thinking. Nonresidents show up for a week of the season at most. Some maybe longer, but a lot are here in WY for less than a week. As a resident my hunting season starts Aug 15th and does not end until November on average. Between hunting and scouting I have over 40 days a year in the field. That usually mean food, lots of fuel (a stupid amount of fuel), all my supplies bought with in the state (not hauling in food, ammo, fuel, from another state). It does not add up.
Sorry for not keeping up, was this to increase tags (and failed)?
Great post. Thanks for informing the uninformed.
Hey Sebastian, show us the receipts for the outfitters you've hired in Wyoming. While you're at it show us your hotel, grocery, restaurant, and fuel receipts from Wyoming.
I respect both you and Buzz and many others Wyoming residents on this site, but I do not think it is a flaw at all, especially with general deer and elk tags available. You both still hunt a heck of a lot on general tags. This is about bringing money from outside the state into the state. If you cut that number of tags in half you lose half of that external revenue. If you were hunting general elk vs an easier to draw limited tag you probably spend the same amount, heck you might spend more time hunting the worse the tag is! I don't think either group is magically saving small towns, but more non-resident hunters means more money brought into the state. Maybe it doesn't matter because tourism in the summer and snow season pays the bills....that should be your argument.
So we don't have to buy food to have in our home? And our trucks dont use gas as long as we go home after we hunt? ? I hunt all year long for one species or another i have no off season. also I drive my truck to work 5 days a week and eat food here every day bought locally like every other resident of wyo. You are out there man
True to a point… But if you go license for license, a decrease in nonresident hunters and an increase in resident hunters is not a cut and dry decrease in spending or our economy…
Show your receipts, in particular for the outfitter you surely must have on speed dial, you know, you caring so much about their well-being and all.
i was actually throwing you a compliment. oh well, you continue to be a little internet bch as i'm sure reading comprehension is not a priority for you
Yeah right, there aren't two other guys that have stood up to outfitters AND the G&F more than "jm and buzz". So just keep flapping your dirty trap newbie.
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