Lead free America is coming.....

Homer · Oct 29, 2022

America’s Favorite Bird Is in Trouble

Hunters and conservationists are coming together to help save bald eagles from lead poisoning.

www.theatlantic.com

SS! · Oct 29, 2022

Let’s do it!!!

elkassassin · Oct 29, 2022

There Are No Shortages Of Bald Eagles!

But Them Alaskans Thing They Are Neat!

Maybe They Can Quit Using LEAD Sinkers & Weights!

Who Knows How Much LEAD Is Laying On The Bottom Up There At 2lbs a Pop!

eelgrass · Oct 29, 2022

Everybody has been hoarding ammo for the past 10 years. Perfect timing.

elkassassin · Oct 29, 2022

They'll Have To Turn it in,Right Eel?

eelgrass said:
Everybody has been hoarding ammo for the past 10 years. Perfect timing.

mtmuley · Oct 29, 2022

My best friend makes copper bullets. I'm good. mtmuley

Tristate · Oct 29, 2022

Bald eagles are not in danger of becoming endangered.

Anybody know what the number one killer of Bald eagles is?

LIK2HNT · Oct 29, 2022

Tristate said:
Bald eagles are not in danger of becoming endangered.

Anybody know what the number one killer of Bald eagles is?

Wind machines, power lines and Indian ceremonies

Homer · Oct 29, 2022

Tristate said:
Bald eagles are not in danger of becoming endangered.

Anybody know what the number one killer of Bald eagles is?

I think windmills.....

eelgrass · Oct 29, 2022

We were at the base of Trinity Lake Dam earlier this summer. My partner spotted a turkey on a little island in the river. It was trying to fly but couldn't get air born. I grabbed my binoculars. It wasn't a turkey; it was an immature Bald Eagle, and it was struggling.

About that time the siren went off and they started letting water out of the dam. The last we saw it was floating down the river. California banned lead ammo a couple years ago.

Tristate · Oct 29, 2022

Homer said:
I think windmills.....

Yepper Skipper.

Maybe hunters just need to be able to buy a permit that allows them to kill as many raptors as they want like the windfarms get.

EVILNR · Oct 29, 2022

When I run out of Interlocks and Partitions, I'll go lead free.

elkantlers · Oct 29, 2022

mtmuley said:
My best friend makes copper bullets. I'm good. mtmuley

you do like your Haymers.

Bluehair · Oct 30, 2022

LIK2HNT said:
Wind machines, power lines and Indian ceremonies

And for a little CO trivia, where do they all go when they die? Rocky Mountain Arsenal in Commerce City (Denver).

National Eagle Repository | U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service

The National Eagle Repository is a one of a kind facility, operated and managed by the Office of Law Enforcement, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. The main purpose is to receive, evaluate, store and distribute dead golden and bald eagles, parts and feathers to Native Americans and Alaska Natives...

www.fws.gov

mtmuley · Oct 30, 2022

elkantlers said:
you do like your Haymers.

Like my Accubonds too. I like what works. mtmuley

eelgrass · Oct 30, 2022

Bluehair said:
And for a little CO trivia, where do they all go when they die? Rocky Mountain Arsenal in Commerce City (Denver).

National Eagle Repository | U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service

The National Eagle Repository is a one of a kind facility, operated and managed by the Office of Law Enforcement, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. The main purpose is to receive, evaluate, store and distribute dead golden and bald eagles, parts and feathers to Native Americans and Alaska Natives...

www.fws.gov

Wow! Some committee put a lot of thought into that.

I guess it will all be worth it if we can get the climate back under control.

wetmule · Oct 30, 2022

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Good to know. I wonder where the California Condor repository is located?

BuzzH · Oct 30, 2022

I'm slowly starting the change to lead-free rifle bullets, I like the idea of not worrying about lead in game meat as well as not killing raptors.

Killed my WY bull moose and bull elk with nosler etips this year. Shot my pronghorn with an accubond.

Won't be a quick transition, I've got 15,000 accubonds to shoot up but I'm buying lead free bullets when I get a chance.

IME (somewhat limited), load development on the lead free has been very good and great accuracy too. Performance has been pretty good on game as well, no complaints.

elkassassin · Oct 30, 2022

BuzzH said:
I'm slowly starting the change to lead-free rifle bullets, I like the idea of not worrying about lead in game meat as well as not killing raptors.

And As Most Lead Is Out-Lawed They'll Tell You Copper Kills As Well!

How you Gonna Clean The LEAD Mess Up Buzz?

BuzzH said:
Killed my WY bull moose and bull elk with nosler etips this year. Shot my pronghorn with an accubond.

Won't be a quick transition, I've got 15,000 accubonds to shoot up but I'm buying lead free bullets when I get a chance.

IME (somewhat limited), load development on the lead free has been very good and great accuracy too. Performance has been pretty good on game as well, no complaints.

BuzzH · Oct 30, 2022

elkassassin said:
And As Most Lead Is Out-Lawed They'll Tell You Copper Kills As Well!

How you Gonna Clean The LEAD Mess Up Buzz?

Shoot lead until you can't, I don't care, and I will be.

I personally don't think lead is an issue for big-game hunting but I'm going to start preparing for what may be mandatory in some places.

I won't be the guy whining because I didn't prepare by stocking up on lead free bullets when the getting was good.

You know, like the guys begging for components now.

elkassassin · Oct 30, 2022

Ya!

I'm Just Sayin:

LEAD FREE!

COPPER FREE!

METAL FREE!

Where Does It End?

Do You Think This World Is Gonna Last Long Enough To Matter?

BuzzH said:
Shoot lead until you can't, I don't care, and I will be.

I personally don't think lead is an issue for big-game hunting but I'm going to start preparing for what may be mandatory in some places.

I won't be the guy whining because I didn't prepare by stocking up on lead free bullets when the getting was good.

You know, like the guys begging for components now.

eelgrass · Oct 30, 2022

A few years ago, a conservation organization (I forget the name) held a local informational meeting about the concerns of lead ammo. I was somewhat convinced it was on the up and up. The best part was, if you brought in a box of lead ammo, they would swap you for a box of non-lead. I ended up with a box of 165 gr. Hornady GMX. .300 Win. Mag. To my pleasant surprise it shot better than what I was shooting. The one pronghorn and two blacktails I've shot with them had hardly any meat loss and of course they died almost immediately. I have no experience with bigger game.

feddoc · Oct 30, 2022

elkassassin said:
Ya!

I'm Just Sayin:

LEAD FREE!

COPPER FREE!

METAL FREE!

Where Does It End?

Do You Think This World Is Gonna Last Long Enough To Matter?

It will last long enough to satisfy me

Lhedrick1 · Oct 30, 2022

Hunting bullets is just the tip of the iceberg.

Shotgun sports (trap, skeet, sporting clays) use almost exclusively lead shot. Some clubs require steel shot but it costs way more than the now normal price of lead ammo.

BuzzH · Oct 30, 2022

elkassassin said:
Ya!

I'm Just Sayin:

LEAD FREE!

COPPER FREE!

METAL FREE!

Where Does It End?

Do You Think This World Is Gonna Last Long Enough To Matter?

For you? No, you have one foot in the grave the other on a banana peel.

For others, yes.

HuckleberryHound · Oct 30, 2022

Ive got my bases covered for the 3 calibers i mainly use, enough to last a number of years if need be, but really, say they outlaw lead ammo for hunting tomorrow. A lot of people wont have any, wont be able to get any, and i highly doubt theyll just quit hunting for a couple years until they can get their hands on some lead free ammo. How in the hell can this be enforced? Ive Never once ran into a game warden or leo of any kind while hunting. How many guys guns can they check? How are they going to know if its lead free or a jacketed, polymer tipped round? What would be the cost of stocking up on lead free ammo for all your hunting rifles, versus the potential cost of a ticket IF you happen to get checked once in 10 years? You think guys with thousands of dollars in ammo stockpiled are going to just say oh well, guess ill not use all this ammo, and spend a ton more money to load up on copper rather than risk maybe getting a ticket?I dont see people complying with a lead ammo ban, because a lot of guys have a ton of money invested in lead ammo, and the ban would be largely unenforceable.

elkassassin · Oct 30, 2022

BuzzH said:
For you? No, you have one foot in the grave the other on a banana peel.

But Un-Like You With Both F'N Feet On Banana Peels!

BuzzH said:
For others, yes.

mtmuley · Oct 30, 2022

HuckleberryHound said:
Ive got my bases covered for the 3 calibers i mainly use, enough to last a number of years if need be, but really, say they outlaw lead ammo for hunting tomorrow. A lot of people wont have any, wont be able to get any, and i highly doubt theyll just quit hunting for a couple years until they can get their hands on some lead free ammo. How in the hell can this be enforced? Ive Never once ran into a game warden or leo of any kind while hunting. How many guys guns can they check? How are they going to know if its lead free or a jacketed, polymer tipped round? What would be the cost of stocking up on lead free ammo for all your hunting rifles, versus the potential cost of a ticket IF you happen to get checked once in 10 years? You think guys with thousands of dollars in ammo stockpiled are going to just say oh well, guess ill not use all this ammo, and spend a ton more money to load up on copper rather than risk maybe getting a ticket?I dont see people complying with a lead ammo ban, because a lot of guys have a ton of money invested in lead ammo, and the ban would be largely unenforceable.

I think it's mostly hunting situations that could be affected. If you have thousands of rounds of your preferred hunting ammo, you have a problem. mtmuley