Good ole Idaho

What’s worse is they can suspend this and allow everyone a fair shot but refuse to do so, spoke with magic valley office on the phone and they said people fly in from out of state for this and they won’t postpone it at the state level. This is supposed to be a fair process!
 
Even the in person license vendors in Idaho can’t get into the system. I think the whole thing is down.
 
Well everyone i know finally got in I am 6714 my buddy is 598 lucky lucky. Everyone is under 10k, so your saying there is a chance.............
Good to know this is just an option for myself and couple buddies. If I depended on this for my only hunt I would have stroked out a couple years ago.
 
I agree NR should be a draw. I hunt solo but this really has to suck for folks that hunt as a group. Guessing the odds of even a pair of guys getting through for tags are low.
 
I agree NR should be a draw. I hunt solo but this really has to suck for folks that hunt as a group. Guessing the odds of even a pair of guys getting through for tags are low.
I'm in the same boat, just getting my solo tag is a long shot. A buddy of mine is used to hunting in a group of 3 and hasn't been able to do so in Idaho for a few years now. I was hoping that would turn some people off. Obviously not the case.
 
BS picket! Nobody with any sense ever thought this was a good system. Worst system of any state by far. Idaho should be real proud of themselves. Most F’d up part about it, they already have a draw system in place.
Nobody will, but it makes you want to bag the whole thing with Idaho & spend your money somewhere else.
 
Go BACK to paper apps... These States going online, with no real idea of the support system needed to handle the volume shows why we shouldn't let govt run our lives.
States pushing NR tags to Dec 1 are trying to out-vie other States for their hunter dollars. Next year it'll be Aug1...lol
 
I mainly want to go back and hunt Idaho again because last time I was there herd was in bad shape and residents wanted us to have this system to reduce congestion in units. I highly doubt it has made a difference in deer numbers or hunting pressure but kinda want to see for myself before I say it was a failure. But I know this system they are using is a failure with a draw system in place does not make any sense either.
 
how about just bag any non resident hunting at all and increase resident fees to cover the difference. i bet it wouldn't be a real tough sell around here...
Yea that’s gonna help, smh, do you not notice the influx of new residents? I mean it’s not a secret that Utah and Idaho are growing like crazy
 
how about just bag any non resident hunting at all and increase resident fees to cover the difference. i bet it wouldn't be a real tough sell around here...
I'll throw in my support as a nonresident if ID residents stop hunting my unit and crowding my local shooting range.
 
how about just bag any non resident hunting at all and increase resident fees to cover the difference. i bet it wouldn't be a real tough sell around here...

There for a second I thought I liked you. lol

On another note, anyone got a shed I can move into??

I will be an Idaho resident this time next year, mark my words!! There is the will, there is a way!! Howdy neighbors!!
 
They have a draw system in place and quotas in place for non residents on all units. Am I missing something as to why all the nonresidents can’t just be a random draw by unit? Seems like it would be easier for the hunters and the fish and game office.
 
I'm sitting 25th in line and it has been paused for almost an hour................... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
 
Only for us suckers online. The 800 number line is moving, their selling tags at the counters...crappy way to do it for sure but it is what it is
If you go on Idaho F&G Facebook page they are saying the whole system is down. There are guys standing in line in person and it's a no go there too.
 
at the current rate of people through per hour. It'll only take me 5 and half days before my turn... I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry??

The last good hunting opportunity is now ****** up as well, I hate social media hunters so, so, so much....

I remember just stoping to buy tags on the way over to hunt
 
We're hauling ass now!!

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I'm calling it "walking the green mile of Idaho"... credit your source when you use that, its great!! lol

My guy is stuck in place at first one still. I like a dumb ass waited until 9:30 to log in, coudlt for over 40 minutes so go last in line at 24K and change... I' luckily called and stayed ont he line so im 1341 on there. Wasn't there an old list of stuff that was sold out or how many tags were still available? I cant find that, but maybe nothing sold out yet
 
I'm calling it "walking the green mile of Idaho"... credit your source when you use that, its great!! lol

My guy is stuck in place at first one still. I like a dumb ass waited until 9:30 to log in, coudlt for over 40 minutes so go last in line at 24K and change... I' luckily called and stayed ont he line so im 1341 on there. Wasn't there an old list of stuff that was sold out or how many tags were still available? I cant find that, but maybe nothing sold out yet
The tag update page crashed. They had a whiteboard at one of the offices but it is not being updated. My first choice was gone but got second choice.
 

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SOLD OUT
Nonresident White-tailed Deer

* 37
Nonresident General Deer
* 20A, 21, 78
Nonresident Elk
* BIG DESERT B, LEMHI A, PIONEER B, SAWTOOTH A, SMOKY-BENNETT B, TEX CREEK A
 
Years ago I really liked hunting Idaho. Late unlimited Muzzy hunts in the draw. And over the counter archery hunts to use as a fall back plan. To bad those days are over. Now I will only put in for moose.
 
Years ago I really liked hunting Idaho. Late unlimited Muzzy hunts in the draw. And over the counter archery hunts to use as a fall back plan. To bad those days are over. Now I will only put in for moose.
the "fall back" plan is exactly what needed gotten rid of.

i say NR tags go to OIL draw. you can hunt here once, then your done
 

Message last updated: 1:45 PM MDT​



SOLD OUT
Nonresident White-tailed Deer

* 37
Nonresident General Deer
* 20A, 21, 78
Nonresident Elk
* BIG DESERT B, LEMHI A, PIONEER B, SAWTOOTH A, SMOKY-BENNETT B, TEX CREEK A
Diamond Creek A was also sold out.
 
Years ago I really liked hunting Idaho. Late unlimited Muzzy hunts in the draw. And over the counter archery hunts to use as a fall back plan. To bad those days are over. Now I will only put in for moose.
There was one Muzz Elk tag NR for Lemhi left yesterday for this year...
 
the "fall back" plan is exactly what needed gotten rid of.

i say NR tags go to OIL draw. you can hunt here once, then your done
As long as residents are good with a 100% increase in fees...that would work. I read where 60% of IDFG budget was from NR sales. Unless that number is bogus I suppose
 

You can keep track of whats sold through this link.​

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SOLD OUT
Nonresident White-tailed Deer

* 37
Nonresident General Deer
* 20A, 21, 21A, 28, 77, 78
Nonresident Elk
* BEAR RIVER B, BIG DESERT A, BIG DESERT B, LEMHI A, PIONEER B, SAWTOOTH A, SAWTOOTH B, SMOKY-BENNETT B, TEX CREEK A
Nonresident DAV Elk
* All Zones
Nonresident DAV Deer
* DAV Regular and WT Deer
 
swing in a miss...I was number 5k-ish...got in and the zones I wanted were all gone. Oh, well! You can't win if you don't play.
 
I say if your a resident you should have to wait in line for a number, and then when they call your number you have 10 seconds to name every county in Idaho and if you don’t they won’t sell you a tag
can Utards count to 10?
 
We have official seen the end of OTC tags for Nonresidents in Western States. It is sad to see but restrictions did need to be put in place.
 
Waited 2 hours at Walmart, left dumped my garbage truck and hit a different vendor on way back to my route no wait and no issue getting my daughter a tag at noon. Pretty sure this debacle will force some change. Can’t have 30,000 plus customers pissed off at once and not get some blow back.
 
Was 12k or so in line and got a deer tag. Quite a few available. Top choices were gone, but I’m happy to be able to hunt at least. Had some issues getting in line otherwise worked OK. Buddies were able to get the tag they wanted.

I am clearly in the minority but I don’t mind spending a day on this system rather than waiting months for draw results.
 
Wow there was not a lot left. Looked like toilet paper shelf during covid. Glad I spent all day on that
 
So many people moving into Idaho.
Even if you limit NR you can see the whole state will be a draw and you will have to have preference points.
You can see it coming.
 
A couple Lolo or just far north elk tags left.
Got in at 9am online and just got my spot 33k spots later after 12 hours.
 
They have a draw system in place and quotas in place for non residents on all units. Am I missing something as to why all the nonresidents can’t just be a random draw by unit? Seems like it would be easier for the hunters and the fish and game office.
Sheez there you go making sense! Stop it
 
what a $hit$show.

I was #329 in line so had my pick of tags. So that was great.

I had to pay for elk tag 3 times before I was actually given the archery tag and received confirmation numbers etc. They literally hit my card all 3 times.

Also picked up a good archery whitetail tag where I hunted moose last year and was covered in deer.
 
I called the Local's only batline and got right there, the first thing the operator ask me was if I had updated my car's extended warranty...lol. All kidding aside, my wife works at cabelas and she said it was nuts there today.
 
Plenty of OTC tags in several western states. We haven't officially seen the end of jack chit.
Yes, there are a few OTC options for nonresidents but it isn't anything like it was even 10 years ago. I could only dream of the tag opportunities nonresidents had 30 years ago.
There isn't any true OTC deer or elk tags left in Idaho for nonresidents. AZ OTC archery just became very restrictive in the last year.
 
what a $hit$show.

I was #329 in line so had my pick of tags. So that was great.

I had to pay for elk tag 3 times before I was actually given the archery tag and received confirmation numbers etc. They literally hit my card all 3 times.

Also picked up a good archery whitetail tag where I hunted moose last year and was covered in deer.
I had the same problem with the credit card not working until the 3 or 4th try. The website was so slow that the page just crashed on me. At least it didn't kick me out and I was eventually able to purchase my tag.
 
funny last year when i said the same thing about a NR draw pretty much every response was flaming me. figured a couple cycles of this will get the masses to see some logic
I think that the Res & Non Res needs to go to a draw. Way residents apply now than 20 years ago. Just my 10 Cents.
 
I think they should leave it as is. I love the nonresident whine fest every year. “All the nonresident tags sold out in 2 hrs” as there are tags available into February and March. It’s kinda fun ?
All good until you want to apply for a state other than your resident tag in Idaho!
 
Simply solution ALL NR tags in a Controlled hunt pool just like the premium resident Idaho tags !! Apply online, in person thru the mail whatever the F22K & be done with it !!!
 
there were approx 70K people who tried the system yesterday, this doesnt count, phone calls or people in person. Many are getting a deer and elk tag meaning possibly as many or more than 55K people didn't buy anything. If they go to a draw and require a license of some sort to apply, small game is $141.75 (then allow an upgrade to full license). Theres 7.8M on the table. Granted you loose some applicants, but if you don't think IDFG is gonna capitalize on that, and make it a better system. your dreamin.

Id be ok with the current system if the IT side had there **** together. I waited till the requested half hour before and watched the site crash for 40+ minutes before I finally logged in and got placed squarely into the end of the line at like 24K... There suggestion, or the inadequate 3rd party server (either way falls at their feet) cost me a chance at getting into the waiting room for a random number... That is very very frustrating. Then can't even keep an accurately updated list of tags that are sold out. Who knows how early I coulda quit sitting on my ass all damn day watching the green mile.
 
Ironically
Arizona has had a much worse system than Idaho for many years.Lol
Idaho is just catching up because we have picked up another 200,000 new residents.
The old days are over.
 
I think they should leave it as is. I love the nonresident whine fest every year. “All the nonresident tags sold out in 2 hrs” as there are tags available into February and March. It’s kinda fun ?
Only a cuck would get this much joy out of watching someone else get screwed....?
 
Up until a couple years ago when tags were not selling out ( 2017/2018) , this was ok. Now that all the tags sell out, let NR go to draw and allow MULTIPLE people to be together. At least 2 or 3 anyway. Also NR ( yes this means me ) every other for year for deer and elk draws if you successfully draw a tag sit out a year. Go somewhere else. Spread it around its better that way.... oh wait never mind that last line lol
 
Ironically
Arizona has had a much worse system than Idaho for many years.Lol
Idaho is just catching up because we have picked up another 200,000 new residents.
The old days are over.
True, but if you believe all of the whiners none of those 200,000 pinko commie Kalifornians hunt or support gun ownership or the constitution etc.....
 
I certainly don't like the idea of Idaho moving closer to a draw for everything. But the nonresident issue is already a draw, and seems to be pretty inefficient.

So let's drop the nonresident quotas per unit down to a round number (if a unit currently has 57 nonresident tags allocated, drop it to 50) and make it a controlled hunt for nonresidents.

That way we get all of the nonresident controlled hunt application fees, the nonresidents stop whining, and the actual controlled hunts (anything not a general season for us residents) would have better odds.

Right now, with all nonres tags selling out, we are losing application fee revenue, and our odds for controlled hunts don't even improve.

Seems like a pretty easy decision at this point.

I would also not be opposed to limiting nonresidents to applying for one species per year.
 
I would also not be opposed to limiting nonresidents to applying for one species per year.
I wouldn't be opposed to limiting residents to one species in the controlled hunt application too and double the resident cost of license, application and tag. Might be a way to improve draw odds while maintaining revenue.
 
I certainly don't like the idea of Idaho moving closer to a draw for everything. But the nonresident issue is already a draw, and seems to be pretty inefficient.

So let's drop the nonresident quotas per unit down to a round number (if a unit currently has 57 nonresident tags allocated, drop it to 50) and make it a controlled hunt for nonresidents.

That way we get all of the nonresident controlled hunt application fees, the nonresidents stop whining, and the actual controlled hunts (anything not a general season for us residents) would have better odds.

Right now, with all nonres tags selling out, we are losing application fee revenue, and our odds for controlled hunts don't even improve.

Seems like a pretty easy decision at this point.

I would also not be opposed to limiting nonresidents to applying for one species per year.
Exactly, except I think the odds for controlled hunts have gotten even worst or will this year. Now that all these people have a license, why would they not at least try for a controlled hunt for an extra $10 or so, one of the ways Idaho kept some non residents from applying for a controlled hunt was they had to buy a license. I love the state of Idaho, but this is one thing they have just screwed up.
 
i sincerely do not believe a resident tag will ever be a draw in Idaho. the management strategy (if you want to call it that) is not for quality its for opportunity. that's real easy to see in units like 40 that theirs been lots of threads about on here. you could easily make that premier unit by shutting it down. never happen, its right by town, guys want to shoot 2 points in there and there will always be a general season.

NR should and will be a draw. limit to single species a year with a one year waiting period if they draw i think is a fantastic idea. take it evern further and if you draw a general season tag you cant put in for controlled hunts and bang NR just got better odds for there share of draw tags. Idahos been the western states hunting whore for everyone that doesn't live here and it needs to change
 
i sincerely do not believe a resident tag will ever be a draw in Idaho. the management strategy (if you want to call it that) is not for quality its for opportunity. that's real easy to see in units like 40 that theirs been lots of threads about on here. you could easily make that premier unit by shutting it down. never happen, its right by town, guys want to shoot 2 points in there and there will always be a general season.

NR should and will be a draw. limit to single species a year with a one year waiting period if they draw i think is a fantastic idea. take it evern further and if you draw a general season tag you cant put in for controlled hunts and bang NR just got better odds for there share of draw tags. Idahos been the western states hunting whore for everyone that doesn't live here and it needs to change

It will happen, maybe not in the next 5 years but it will surely happen.. As soon as residents can't buy an over the counter tag year after year they'll want the draw to make it fair. Can't have an influx of residents and not make changes.
 

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