Wolf release map.

fullthrottle said:

What a joke! Hasn't the elk herd around eagle/vail been on an unexplainable slide for years, issues with calf recruitment? Wolves should do that some good...When's the grizzlies coming?

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fullthrottle said:

What a joke! Hasn't the elk herd around eagle/vail been on an unexplainable slide for years, issues with calf recruitment? Wolves should do that some good...When's the grizzlies coming?

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Gunnihunter said:

It’s included in the liberal agenda. No game means no hunting, no hunting means no guns. The socialists are planning decades down the road.

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SS! said:

Sweet! So exciting for Colorado! Hopefully it’s successful and there’s a season shortly after reintroduction!

Exciting world we live in!

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SS! said:

Sweet! So exciting for Colorado! Hopefully it’s successful and there’s a season shortly after reintroduction!

Exciting world we live in!

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Grouse Legs said:

From what i understand there is nothing to indicate there will be a wolf hunting season in colorado.

Am i missing something or are you making that up?

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elkassassin said:

Oh There Will Be a Season!

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Gator said:

Read between the lines

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txhunter58 said:

Interesting statement

“ Releases will occur on state or private lands. The plan does not currently contemplate releases on Federal lands because CPW does not have the staffing or financial resources to undertake the required National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) analysis prior to any federal land management agency authorizing releases on federal lands”

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txhunter58 said:

Interesting statement

“ Releases will occur on state or private lands. The plan does not currently contemplate releases on Federal lands because CPW does not have the staffing or financial resources to undertake the required National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) analysis prior to any federal land management agency authorizing releases on federal lands”

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txhunter58 said:

Interesting statement

“ Releases will occur on state or private lands. The plan does not currently contemplate releases on Federal lands because CPW does not have the staffing or financial resources to undertake the required National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) analysis prior to any federal land management agency authorizing releases on federal lands”

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Gadjet said:

Sooo, if they take a step onto BLM or national forest they’re fair game right? The first release area is my stomping grounds. The elk herds had a drastic downturn several years ago and is just now starting to come back in numbers. Why these morons would choose this area is beyond me !

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HIcountryman said:

this is pretty painful... big bucks will be gone within 10 years, probably before that as they are already on the slide with the later seasons and tag number increases in the name of squashing CWD. The deer and elk numbers will diminish. How is CPW going to make any money off the OTC bull tags??!! the damn hikers/wolf watchers DO NOT CONTRIBUTE ANY MONEY TO CPW!!! They can't look far enough into the crystal ball to see that?! i will probably be watching from afar but it will be interesting to follow.

i wish they could dump the woofs in RMNP. It would be perfect since there is no hunting of the deer and elk there... no private lands to have to compensate livestock owners... the Yellowstone advertisement that persuaded all the woof lovers (it was some video that showed "when wolves were reintroduced, limiting the elk numbers and the damage they did to the bushes in riparian areas, some bird came back to record numbers..." ) was a parallel IN A NATIONAL PARK. why couldn't they keep that parallel going? Cannot believe how shortsighted this is .... Not that i have much faith in the intelligence of buruaecracy/CPW but why the hell was this put in voters' hands? impossible to reel back now. Goodbye Mule deer.

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El Gringo said:

Fortunately the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting…. It’s about War

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sticksender said:

Those who insinuate that do-it-yourself-regardless-of-the-law killing of wolves would have any significant effect on wolf numbers after these booster releases happen, are basically kidding themselves. We already know what happened in ID, WY, MT....until real, state-sponsored hunting & trapping seasons got started, the number of wolves spiraled out of control. By then it was too late for the once-booming Moose populations, and elk had been severely impacted, esp in the more remote areas.

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elkassassin said:

Can You Explain Why The Wolves Haven't Taken Over Here in DRATville?

We've got a Few!

We've had a Few Forever!

They've Never Expanded Much in Numbers!

There's been a Few Shot & Turned In!

There's Been a Few Trapped & Turned In!

I Guess You're Sayin When They Dump A Bunch In One Pile They'll Expand?

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Bluehair said:

Good catch. Is this some slight of hand to make an effort to delist moot? I don’t fully understand the intercourse of the agencies involved.

I thought CPW had a giant surplus? I’m to believe this is the first silly project we couldn’t afford

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HIcountryman said:

this is pretty painful... big bucks will be gone within 10 years, probably before that as they are already on the slide with the later seasons and tag number increases in the name of squashing CWD. The deer and elk numbers will diminish. How is CPW going to make any money off the OTC bull tags??!! the damn hikers/wolf watchers DO NOT CONTRIBUTE ANY MONEY TO CPW!!! They can't look far enough into the crystal ball to see that?! i will probably be watching from afar but it will be interesting to follow.

i wish they could dump the woofs in RMNP. It would be perfect since there is no hunting of the deer and elk there... no private lands to have to compensate livestock owners... the Yellowstone advertisement that persuaded all the woof lovers (it was some video that showed "when wolves were reintroduced, limiting the elk numbers and the damage they did to the bushes in riparian areas, some bird came back to record numbers..." ) was a parallel IN A NATIONAL PARK. why couldn't they keep that parallel going? Cannot believe how shortsighted this is .... Not that i have much faith in the intelligence of buruaecracy/CPW but why the hell was this put in voters' hands? impossible to reel back now. Goodbye Mule deer.

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tracker12 said:

When can we start buying points for the first wolf hunt?

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MrDoe said:

There should be a thorough evaluation to prove that introduction of wolves will not cause harm to these T&E species.

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Homer said:

I see grey wolves on your list....will the new grey wolves threaten the existing grey wolves????...or join forces??

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MrDoe said:

My point is, have they really even thought about the impact on all of the other T&E species in Colorado? Shouldn't they specifically address it before moving forward?

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Grouse Legs said:

MrDoe you have some good points.

The best way to stop this may be to tie it up in court. Im surprised thats not happening already.

Also, after all these years of tiptoeing around the gunnison sage grouse now we are pumping wolves directly in sage grouse central. Doesnt seem thought out

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Homer said:

LOL...it is thoroughly thought out to end hunting....damn the torpedos, full steam ahead...


Get It?

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Grouse Legs said:

MrDoe you have some good points.

The best way to stop this may be to tie it up in court. Im surprised thats not happening already.

Also, after all these years of tiptoeing around the gunnison sage grouse now we are pumping wolves directly in sage grouse central. Doesnt seem thought out

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Gator said:

Alot SSS will be going on

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roadrunner said:

What's Utah's stance once these maggot dogs jump the border to the west? And the SUIT once they enter their lands because we know they will...

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Grouse Legs said:

From what i understand there is nothing to indicate there will be a wolf hunting season in colorado.

Am i missing something or are you making that up?

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1989Cohunter said:

I would suspect a few have been “seen” in Utah. I would also guess they didn’t return to where they came from.

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1989Cohunter said:

I would suspect a few have been “seen” in Utah. I would also guess they didn’t return to where they came from.

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elkassassin said:

Your Guess Is right!

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tailchasers said:

Bess might I suggest you load up a few extra hot rounds for those hybrid coyotes we'll be driving your ways. Semi auto preferred w/30rd mags. Perhaps we even coordinate a yote drive? Tell your friends. We'll buy the mountain dew and provide the brats!!!

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Homer said:

LOL...it is thoroughly thought out to end hunting....damn the torpedos, full steam ahead...


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2lumpy said:

Beyond the wolf and the hope it will end hunting, I agree with Homer. If that was not the intent to begin with, it certainly is part of the strategy today, and will they growth that concept in every direction, as time goes on.

Public land hunting is becoming more and more undesirable for all but those that just want an outing with family and friends and a hunting tag, “just in case” they see one.

In Utah people still buy an upland game tag, “just in case”. Deer and elk are not far behind.

Wolves will move the “just in case” hunting concept nicely.

With friends and family engaged in many aspects of the life style, and after listening to the discussions that go on, between the government, the sportsmen, and the landowners, I believe the future of big game hunting will continue to shift more and more to the private sector, owner- operators. I absolutely believe the big game agencies really wish it would all go that way as well. (TriState has a similar belief, I think.)

From my view of the big picture, not that my view is any better than anyone else’s, if I were back in my twenties or thirties, even my forties, I believe I would start immediately to develop a long term hunting strategy, for you and your children. This would involve, first a plan to hunt every year, but maybe hunting differently than you are now. Hunt economically, hunt close to home, start out with lower yearly expectations while building financial revenues that allow you, every four to six years buy private access, where higher expectations can be met. Depending on your goals and income, diligently setting $50, $100, $200, $500, $1000, etc per month in an interest barring saves account, for 4 to 6 years, (interest rates are going up) or with a reliable landowner or outfitter will give you a better than public land hunt, and more reliably than hoping to get lucky in a State draw raffle or other wise. I’m not suggesting you don’t apply for State draws every year, especially in States that allow you to draw without maximum points and are cheap to apply. You could still get lucky but expecting to draw these State draw tags on a regular bases is not going to happen, if you haven’t already be doing it for twenty plus years and that still becoming a long shot, not a reliable reality. Besides, the draw tags are all for a hunt on public lands (which are managed for young animals, in most units) and access to private is a huge additional expense, especially if you don’t have a nest egg already put away for the day you get lucky and draw a State tag.

With public land quantity and quality continuing to spiral downward, as it has for the last 40 years, there is very little reason to expect it will change in any significant way, especially when we add the wolf factor into the equation.

So, the bottom line, as I see it, wolves and whatever else might be coming down the road…… at least for as long as there are private properties to hunt, I would build a long term system to hunt private property. Just loading up the truck, buying a hunting tag and head out to hunt big game has changed and is going to continue to chance, more and more. If you are willing to recognize and adapt to the world as it is and to try to anticipate what it “will be”, big game hunting will still be available to you. If you don’t want to do that, I’m think golf or pickle ball might be a more satisfying alternative.

I’ve have always been a strong and committed supporter of public land multiple use. I’ve spent a good deal of time and personal resources meeting and working with government and the private sector, trying to improve and secure the concept of public lands. As I’ve listened to recent discussions, watching the wolf movement, the declining interest in State government Agencies regarding big game hunting animal populations, I’m seriously beginning to reconsider my commitment to the multiple use concept. Basically, from a sport hunting interest, I’m no longer sure hunting sportsmen would not actually have more to look forward to if public lands were owned by the private sector, where at the very least, some of the owners would build their businesses based on growing and hunting big game.

In a nut shell, my support for the multiple use concept is because of big game hunting. I’m not a livestock owner, hiker, back packet, a bird watcher, a hippy squatter, a atv/bicycle joy rider etc. If there is not sustainable big game on public lands, or so few, that I can hunt, I would rather see it generating taxes to go toward improve the municipal golf course and Senior Center.

I’m not looking to pick a fight with family or friends that benefit from multiple use, such as livestock owners, lumber harvesters, miners, or tree huggers, etc. these are personal opinions, as they effect my hunting lifestyle interests. We each have our rational for wanting and keep land public. My interest has and is being greatly diminished and I don’t see any reason to expect it to improve.

One guy’s opinion, your return on investments may vary.

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2lumpy said:

Beyond the wolf and the hope it will end hunting, I agree with Homer. If that was not the intent to begin with, it certainly is part of the strategy today, and will they growth that concept in every direction, as time goes on.

Public land hunting is becoming more and more undesirable for all but those that just want an outing with family and friends and a hunting tag, “just in case” they see one.

In Utah people still buy an upland game tag, “just in case”. Deer and elk are not far behind.

Wolves will move the “just in case” hunting concept nicely.

With friends and family engaged in many aspects of the life style, and after listening to the discussions that go on, between the government, the sportsmen, and the landowners, I believe the future of big game hunting will continue to shift more and more to the private sector, owner- operators. I absolutely believe the big game agencies really wish it would all go that way as well. (TriState has a similar belief, I think.)

From my view of the big picture, not that my view is any better than anyone else’s, if I were back in my twenties or thirties, even my forties, I believe I would start immediately to develop a long term hunting strategy, for you and your children. This would involve, first a plan to hunt every year, but maybe hunting differently than you are now. Hunt economically, hunt close to home, start out with lower yearly expectations while building financial revenues that allow you, every four to six years buy private access, where higher expectations can be met. Depending on your goals and income, diligently setting $50, $100, $200, $500, $1000, etc per month in an interest barring saves account, for 4 to 6 years, (interest rates are going up) or with a reliable landowner or outfitter will give you a better than public land hunt, and more reliably than hoping to get lucky in a State draw raffle or other wise. I’m not suggesting you don’t apply for State draws every year, especially in States that allow you to draw without maximum points and are cheap to apply. You could still get lucky but expecting to draw these State draw tags on a regular bases is not going to happen, if you haven’t already be doing it for twenty plus years and that still becoming a long shot, not a reliable reality. Besides, the draw tags are all for a hunt on public lands (which are managed for young animals, in most units) and access to private is a huge additional expense, especially if you don’t have a nest egg already put away for the day you get lucky and draw a State tag.

With public land quantity and quality continuing to spiral downward, as it has for the last 40 years, there is very little reason to expect it will change in any significant way, especially when we add the wolf factor into the equation.

So, the bottom line, as I see it, wolves and whatever else might be coming down the road…… at least for as long as there are private properties to hunt, I would build a long term system to hunt private property. Just loading up the truck, buying a hunting tag and head out to hunt big game has changed and is going to continue to chance, more and more. If you are willing to recognize and adapt to the world as it is and to try to anticipate what it “will be”, big game hunting will still be available to you. If you don’t want to do that, I’m think golf or pickle ball might be a more satisfying alternative.

I’ve have always been a strong and committed supporter of public land multiple use. I’ve spent a good deal of time and personal resources meeting and working with government and the private sector, trying to improve and secure the concept of public lands. As I’ve listened to recent discussions, watching the wolf movement, the declining interest in State government Agencies regarding big game hunting animal populations, I’m seriously beginning to reconsider my commitment to the multiple use concept. Basically, from a sport hunting interest, I’m no longer sure hunting sportsmen would not actually have more to look forward to if public lands were owned by the private sector, where at the very least, some of the owners would build their businesses based on growing and hunting big game.

In a nut shell, my support for the multiple use concept is because of big game hunting. I’m not a livestock owner, hiker, back packet, a bird watcher, a hippy squatter, a atv/bicycle joy rider etc. If there is not sustainable big game on public lands, or so few, that I can hunt, I would rather see it generating taxes to go toward improve the municipal golf course and Senior Center.

I’m not looking to pick a fight with family or friends that benefit from multiple use, such as livestock owners, lumber harvesters, miners, or tree huggers, etc. these are personal opinions, as they effect my hunting lifestyle interests. We each have our rational for wanting and keep land public. My interest has and is being greatly diminished and I don’t see any reason to expect it to improve.

One guy’s opinion, your return on investments may vary.

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Grouse Legs said:

Whoa bubba. Did that hurt?

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Phantom Hunter said:

2Lumpy, I am afraid you may be more right than most of us want to admit. The good thing for me is I am about to be too old to chase bulls and bucks in the high country The sad thing is my son and grandkids won’t be able to enjoy public land hunting and most likely won’t be able to afford to hunt private land bulls and bucks. I am about to start doing a lot more fishing!

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coloradoman said:

Here's where Colorado's reintroduced wolves are most likely to be released

Colorado wildlife officials haven't announced exactly where wolves will be released, but likely sites can be narrowed given release site parameters.

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roadrunner said:

Idiots to think they will stay in CO.

Idiots.

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Bluehair said:

Really? I don‘t think CPW ever thought that.

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2lumpy said:

It’s the opposite of what they thought or want.

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Bluehair said:

Point being that the people who voted for this are hoping they spread everywhere. NOBODY said they would stay home.

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coloradoman said:

Rep. Boebert introduces legislation to delist the Gray Wolf

Representative Lauren Boebert introduced legislation that would delist Gray Wolves, opening the gate for hunting.

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HntHrdr said:

I love how some lady named Rhonda speaks for all of “us”… in other news Rhonda moved here two years ago from the Bay area of California and has 27 cats who are her “babies”

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coloradoman said:

Colorado wildlife officials capture, collar 2 wolves in Jackson County's North Park area

One of the captured wolves was the Northern Colorado pack's breeding male, and the other is presumably one of pack's six pups.

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The_Coloradoboy said:

RIP to the ground I’ve grown up, and spent my lifetime hunting that’s been passed down to me from dad and grandpa. Hate to see it go this way. Sad to truly see what’s happened to the west the last decade.

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coloradoman said:

Newest update

Gray Wolves in Colorado to receive special designation

The Fish and Wildlife Service honored Hickenlooper’s request for a special endangered species act designation for Gray Wolves in Colorado.

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