Big Pharma to the rescue.

feddoc said:
Dunno.

Perhaps you can offer evidence which suggests otherwise, especially since you determined it you be false.
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Do you really think Pfizer would put a logo in the corner of the video? I can create a video of some random person (that’s what this is) talking about literally anything I want to talk about and “release” it to the public and it becomes “truth” to the people who are dumb enough to believe it. Truly scary that anyone would take this video as something that is legit.
 
This is gonna be a fun thread to watch!
feddoc said:
Dunno.

Perhaps you can offer evidence which suggests otherwise, especially since you determined it you be false.
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It's not gonna matter if it's true or not when more of the die hard pro vaccers see this -------well I hope you've got thick skin!!
 
yotebuster17 said:
Do you really think Pfizer would put a logo in the corner of the video? I can create a video of some random person (that’s what this is) talking about literally anything I want to talk about and “release” it to the public and it becomes “truth” to the people who are dumb enough to believe it. Truly scary that anyone would take this video as something that is legit.
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yotebuster17 said:
Do you really think Pfizer would put a logo in the corner of the video? I can create a video of some random person (that’s what this is) talking about literally anything I want to talk about and “release” it to the public and it becomes “truth” to the people who are dumb enough to believe it. Truly scary that anyone would take this video as something that is legit.
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Are you saying that is NOT Walker as the video indicates it is?
 
yotebuster17:

Maybe you can check out Project Veritas just a tad. They have a FANTASTIC track record and don't get sued for false info, yet they wining in court against NY Times and are fighting the FBI. Big enemies, yet they keep chugging along.

Don't get to caught up in the Pfizer logo that they put there to emphasize who/what they are exposing. Then again, you're free to believe whatever you want. 'Tis a free country--mostly...
 
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Are you saying that is NOT Walker as the video indicates it is?
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I’m saying that’s just some guy that is saying **** to make a video. We don’t even know who Jordan Trishton Walker is. So again, I can make a video with anyone I want on it saying anything I want and say it’s whoever I want and you folks will believe it if it gets put out through the right right wing media sources. Same goes for the lefty’s. It’s sad to watch. Google the guys name, it only comes up on a bunch of right wing media pages. Lemme guess, google is in on it too?!? They “covered it up” and scrubbed the entire interweb of this guys name? ??‍♂️
 
feddoc said:
It appears as though you are taking what I posted way out of context. Its not about L v. R.
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I’m just saying this guy is just some guy talking about whatever the heck they decided would get clicks. The only L and R I mentioned is the fake news outlets that propagate this dung.
 
yotebuster17 said:
I’m just saying this guy is just some guy talking about whatever the heck they decided would get clicks. The only L and R I mentioned is the fake news outlets that propagate this dung.
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Dung? Is it dung only because you disagree with it?


My biggest concern is the possibility of this: Is Pfizer mutating COVID variants in order to produce vaccines for future sale.


BTW, I never suggested that 'google was in on it'. You brought that up.
 
feddoc said:
Dung? Is it dung only because you disagree with it?


My biggest concern is the possibility of this: Is Pfizer mutating COVID variants in order to produce vaccines for future sale.
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I don’t “disagree” with anything because there’s nothing to disagree with, this video is nothing. It’s not a statement, not a fact, not even an opinion. It’s just what I said, dung. To get clicks. That’s it.

I also would have concern if Pfizer was mutating Covid variants to produce vaccines for future sale. I feel like that is an actual thing to discuss. This video is not. If we had evidence of that I’d like to see it. My 2 cents is Americans do a fair enough job of destroying our bodies through all of the garbage we put in them and the terrible care we take of them that Pfizer doesn’t have any trouble keeping themselves busy and in the money the way it is.
 
Man, getting this guy to actually say this on camera is good journalism. Getting "proof" starts with clips like this. Also, project veritas always have more videos coming. This is probably the first one released.
 
Well I mean the big pharmaceutical companies have paid more money than anyone else for crimes and are still allowed to be in business.
 
Sure looks like him.

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Only two questions need answering. Does Pfizer have a guy named Jordon Trishton Walker, Director of Research and Development and if so is that him? Because we all heard what he said. It should only take 10 minutes to verify.
 
FWIW, It simply is not my thing to doctor images or fake some information to make my point in an internet discussion. To sorta almost imply same is typical of those who cannot prove it wrong, but will call that information 'dung' 'lies' etc. in a sophomoric attempt to discredit something. ..hey, anyone can make Pfizer logo.

Yes, I have the links in my archives
 
feddoc said:
FWIW, It simply is not my thing to doctor images or fake some information to make my point in an internet discussion. To sorta almost imply same is typical of those who cannot prove it wrong, but will call that information 'dung' 'lies' etc. in a sophomoric attempt to discredit something. ..hey, anyone can make Pfizer logo.

Yes, I have the links in my archives
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You have them in your “archives”?!? Ok Gandolf. Mind sharing them? I suppose they took them down right after you looked at them?
 
feddoc said:
Name calling...ok, we are done.

You were wrong and just can't admit it. buh bye.
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How am I wrong? Post the link from your archive if this is legit, if not then quit posting fake news. That’s all I’m here for, I don’t pick sides as I hate them both but I hate lies and fake news the most which is what all of this is. Pfizer doesn’t need to drum up business. Like I said before, fat, nasty, sick America is plenty business enough for them, we’ll keep them rolling in dough for generations with our self destructive ways.
 
Could be a drunk employee talkin smack, being drunk and dumb. Could be big pharma watergate. Time will tell, no need to turn the propaganda wheel. Too much money to be made to blow the top off this if it actually has any factual legs. That’s why we have legitimate journalists, the free press, and evidence standards. Let’s just give this some time.
 
feddoc said:
For others, not so grainy here: https://ussanews.com/2023/01/25/was-jordon-triton-walker-a-pfizer-executive/


Or here:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1618435991211233282
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Oh come on man! I thought you said it was from the Pfizer website? You had me all excited to see it. This is photoshopped garbage from the same fake news agencies the rest came from. Man I was really expecting to be wowed. You don’t ever stop to wonder how quick and easy it is for truly anyone to make those images?!?
 
Hey man, I shared your skepticism when I first saw this. I try to always question these kinds of things and try finding people who know what they are talking about to weigh in. Thus why I think it’s insane to listen to some talking head on CNN or any MSM station give any kind of health advise whatsoever. Especially when 75% add revnue is big pharma.

I sent this to a friend who happens to work at a high level for , I’ll just say, a very similar company. Now you can stop reading right here if you're like me thinking ha yea sure some guy on the internets "friend" blah blah. I don't blame you, ill just say as a hunting community we tend to be honest people, so I hope. I got nothign to gain telling lies on MM. Anyways, he told me that while this guy sounds a little off (I mean hes drinking out on a date right?) his knowledge of the procress of the way drugs come to market and the key stategies these corporations have adds up and is no surpise to him. He found his linkden with credetials before they wiped it clean, I never looked so I dont know either way. Apparently theres a journalist that has published all his creds and they check out. If you think thats BS and you're right then I am sure any day now there will be a headline proving this man is a fraud....I'll wait for that.

If you think about it its not all that nefarious compared to what big pharam already does with the flu shot every year IMO

I just watched this video and it pretty much sums it up. Kim Iverson is pretty legit from the last few years.



yotebuster17 said:
I’m saying that’s just some guy that is saying **** to make a video. We don’t even know who Jordan Trishton Walker is. So again, I can make a video with anyone I want on it saying anything I want and say it’s whoever I want and you folks will believe it if it gets put out through the right right wing media sources. Same goes for the lefty’s. It’s sad to watch. Google the guys name, it only comes up on a bunch of right wing media pages. Lemme guess, google is in on it too?!? They “covered it up” and scrubbed the entire interweb of this guys name? ??‍♂️
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Apparently DailyMail and MSN,com both ran an article on this, then rapidly removed them. DailyMail eats this stuff up, so it would make one wonder why they deleted it.
 
yotebuster17 said:
How am I wrong? Post the link from your archive if this is legit, if not then quit posting fake news. That’s all I’m here for, I don’t pick sides as I hate them both but I hate lies and fake news the most which is what all of this is. Pfizer doesn’t need to drum up business. Like I said before, fat, nasty, sick America is plenty business enough for them, we’ll keep them rolling in dough for generations with our self destructive ways.
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Once gov't got involved into every aspect of American life, health went downhill. Fast...
 
elkassassin said:
grizzly?
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The anti-vax and everything's-a-conspiracy people are so ridiculous that many have now decided that Hamlin died on the field, that it was caused by the COVID vaccine, and that Pfizer is conspiring with the NFL and Hamlin's teammates and family to promote a body double or a clone.

That's how ridiculous these people are.

We have our own guy on MM that spends countless hours a day searching BS far-right garbage sites and then reposting the fake articles to an echo chamber on a hunting site so they can all get angry and agree with each other.

It's predictable and boring.
 
grizzly said:
The anti-vax and everything's-a-conspiracy people are so ridiculous that many have now decided that Hamlin died on the field, that it was caused by the COVID vaccine, and that Pfizer is conspiring with the NFL and Hamlin's teammates and family to promote a body double or a clone.

That's how ridiculous these people are.

We have our own guy on MM that spends countless hours a day searching BS far-right garbage sites and then reposting the fake articles to an echo chamber on a hunting site so they can all get angry and agree with each other.

It's predictable and boring.
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There are also people here on MM who believe everything the govt and “scientists” say, they take it as gospel and repeat those ad nauseam. You remember those people right? “Take the vax, it will prevent you from getting or even spreading Covid”. “There’s no risk of myocarditis.” “Wear a mask, don’t wear a mask.” “ The laptop is disinformation.” “Russian collusion.” “The border is secure.” Etc,etc,etc. I could do this all day.

It happens with both sides so don’t think conspiracy theorists are only from one party.

Funny thing is though, it seems like one side is eventually proven right with their theories more often.
 
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grizzly said:
The anti-vax and everything's-a-conspiracy people are so ridiculous that many have now decided that Hamlin died on the field, that it was caused by the COVID vaccine, and that Pfizer is conspiring with the NFL and Hamlin's teammates and family to promote a body double or a clone.

That's how ridiculous these people are.

We have our own guy on MM that spends countless hours a day searching BS far-right garbage sites and then reposting the fake articles to an echo chamber on a hunting site so they can all get angry and agree with each other.

It's predictable and boring.
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Damar hamlin?

This thread is about corrupt pfizer executive being caught on tape.

Try to keep up with everybody else
 
Flyjunky12 said:
Funny thing is though, it seems like one side is eventually proven right with their theories more often.
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Yep, but I'm not the one that thinks the one's proven right are the same people looking for a trafficking ring under a pizza parlor.

The conspiratorialists never think they're proven wrong, they just find a new conspiracy or another justification of somebody else to blame.

Every time the evidence moves further against them, they move the goal posts and say somebody else must be in on it. When there is a smoking gun proving them wrong, then the person who provided the smoking gun is suddenly "Deep State".

Grouse Legs said:
Damar hamlin?

This thread is about corrupt pfizer executive being caught on tape.

Try to keep up with everybody else
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The Hamlin people are indicting Pfizer too. I'm way ahead of ya, bud.

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Flyjunky12 said:
There are also people here on MM who believe everything the govt and “scientists” say, they take it as gospel and repeat those ad nauseam. You remember those people right? “Take the vax, it will prevent you from getting or even spreading Covid”. “There’s no risk of myocarditis.” “Wear a mask, don’t wear a mask.” “ The laptop is disinformation.” “Russian collusion.” “The border is secure.” Etc,etc,etc. I could do this all day.
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"Experts" are made in two ways: the 1st being that they will believe their own B.S. so much, that people get brainwashed by hearing the same message and the 2nd is people appoint them so as to not to have to deal with it.

It's absolutely impossible to be the only person to have all knowledge and experience in one topic.
 
grizzly said:
Yep, but I'm not the one that thinks the one's proven right are the same people looking for a trafficking ring under a pizza parlor.

The conspiratorialists never think they're proven wrong, they just find a new conspiracy or another justification of somebody else to blame.

Every time the evidence moves further against them, they move the goal posts and say somebody else must be in on it. When there is a smoking gun proving them wrong, then the person who provided the smoking gun is suddenly "Deep State".


The Hamlin people are indicting Pfizer too. I'm way ahead of ya, bud.

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No your avoiding discussing the corupt pfizer exec tape by trying to discuss the hamlin situation.

No surprise from you bud
 
Grouse Legs said:
No your avoiding discussing the corupt pfizer exec tape by trying to discuss the hamlin situation.

No surprise from you bud
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Maybe I'm being too abstruse.

You're chasing conspiracies from the same people that claim Hamlin is a clone and there are trafficking rings under pizza parlors.
 
grizzly said:
Every time the evidence moves further against them, they move the goal posts and say somebody else must be in on it. When there is a smoking gun proving them wrong, then the person who provided the smoking gun is suddenly "Deep State".


The Hamlin people are indicting Pfizer too. I'm way ahead of ya, bud.

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These people aren’t in this thread so why are you stirring the pot? Who cares about the extremes. Lol now you’re talking about pizza gate? ADD much? I think I get it, you got suckered into getting the vax that didn’t prevent you from getting sick and passing it along to your family like promised. Now you’re pissed and deflecting onto the “anti” vaxxers.
 
The real question here is, should we be shorting their stock for a huge plummet? Or buying more because profits will skyrocket when weekly vaccines are needed? :unsure:
Is the source of this video reliable enough to bet big on it one way or the other?
 
The problem I have is the generalizing about someone who doesn't hold your view; such as, well--if I believe this content creator of this video (I do, they have a GREAT track record), I'm then accused of being associated or part of the most extreme groups, such as the pizza parlor/pedophile conspiracy bs, far-right or whatever.

It's a cheap and easy accusation that nowadays doesn't merit my detailed position response. I leave that to others, but since I noticed a few newer members on this thread, I felt the need to voice, just a little bit.
 
Snoopdogg said:
The problem I have is the generalizing about someone who doesn't hold your view; such as, well--if I believe this content creator of this video (I do, they have a GREAT track record), I'm then accused of being associated or part of the most extreme groups, such as the pizza parlor/pedophile conspiracy bs, far-right or whatever.

It's a cheap and easy accusation that nowadays doesn't merit my detailed position response. I leave that to others, but since I noticed a few newer members on this thread, I felt the need to voice, just a little bit.
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Deflection, at best, is what those cheap accusations are.
 
Grouse Legs said:
Your mid wit tier intellect is showing again
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And there go the attacks again. You may want to spend some time thinking about what about my having a different view than you is so threatening. You can rest assured that your world views weigh on me absolutely zero. I couldn't care less.

But you're so threatened it causes you to attack someone personally. Hmm.

Snoopdogg said:
The problem I have is the generalizing about someone who doesn't hold your view; such as, well--if I believe this content creator of this video (I do, they have a GREAT track record), I'm then accused of being associated or part of the most extreme groups, such as the pizza parlor/pedophile conspiracy bs, far-right or whatever.

It's a cheap and easy accusation that nowadays doesn't merit my detailed position response. I leave that to others, but since I noticed a few newer members on this thread, I felt the need to voice, just a little bit.
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You may want to speak against those people so it's clear there is nuance in your positions.

feddoc said:
Deflection, at best, is what those cheap accusations are.
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It's not deflection. It's dismission. I'm dismissive of your belief in a Pfizer conspiracy. I'm not deflecting from it. I think it's utter BS. You can either acknowledge some people disagree with you or you can't. That's it. I really can't be any more clear.
 
grizzly said:
And there go the attacks again. You may want to spend some time thinking about what about my having a different view than you is so threatening. You can rest assured that your world views weigh on me absolutely zero. I couldn't care less.

But you're so threatened it causes you to attack someone personally. Hmm.


You may want to speak against those people so it's clear there is nuance in your positions.


It's not deflection. It's dismission. I'm dismissive of your belief in a Pfizer conspiracy. I'm not deflecting from it. I think it's utter BS. You can either acknowledge some people disagree with you or you can't. That's it. I really can't be any more clear.
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What about the truth makes you feel like its an attack?

You play the victim card the first chance you get.

What you cant do is discuss the material at hand at all.

You have degenerated this otherwise interesting and civil thread to the lowest common denominator.

Your posts are in poor faith, divisive and bring no value to this forum.
 
On the discussion portion of the thread: :)

I could actually believe that some idiot from Pfizer, drunk at a bar and wanting to impress somebody, said something stupid like that.

I honestly do not believe that Pfizer is looking to make us sick to make us well. They really do quite well without that kind of immense risk, and companies simply do not take those kinds of risks.

The other point I would make is Pfizer has 80,000 employees. If they are like any other big company of that size, they would have many hundreds of "director" level management. Out of those hundreds, could PV find one idiot to say something off the charts? They are dang good at it, so it's possible.
 
Grouse Legs said:
What about the truth makes you feel like its an attack?

You play the victim card the first chance you get.

What you cant do is discuss the material at hand at all.

You have degenerated this otherwise interesting and civil thread to the lowest common denominator.

Your posts are in poor faith, divisive and bring no value to this forum.
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The truth? You can say the earth is flat and call it the truth but I'll dismiss that too. I have no obligation to believe you nor to patronize you. I simply don't agree with you and that drives you nuts.

I say that because you're apparently demanding I justify my disregard for your claims. I'm not demanding you justify your position to me, you can believe what you want. I'm not threatened or offended by it. I couldn't care less that you think Pfizer is part of a conspiracy, I simply disagree with you. Sorry that is such a concern for you.

Go read my very first post again, I referenced another Pfizer conspiracy as a clear example of the conspiratorialists targeting Pfizer and you jump in, entirely missing the Pfizer reference, with a "try to keep up." And I'm the one being divisive? ?

The other attack I referenced, and directly quoted, is your "mid tier wit intellect" line... the divisiveness and lack of civility is coming from your hand.


Snoopdogg said:
The problem I have is the generalizing about someone who doesn't hold your view;
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Does that apply to the fact that I dislike Trump and don't see a conspiracy behind every bush and that often gets me called a socialist, libtard, and accused of aligning with people who hate America... even though I've never once defended Biden?

Or does your problem with generalizing only go one way?

It's just like your claim above that you don't agree with the 'democrats-are-pedophiles' wing of the far-right. Do you publicly separate yourself from it or criticize those who say it like you criticize Never Trumpers who are conservatives that reject him?

There were actually several posts here where MMers said a conservative Never Trumper can't even exist. How come you didn't jump in and say that's a generalization and that if you can be a Trumper and not look in pizza parlors for pedophiles that it's possible for conservatives to not like Trump?

Or does that angst about nuance and generalization only go one way too?
 
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Grizzly, I appreciate your points and the fact you felt the need to expound a second time on my post (#62). Sorry/not sorry that I didn't take the bait.

That said, I don't feel the need to jump into every fray, defend someone else's conservatism or lack thereof, or agree with everything posted on good ol' MM, regardless of topic. I jump in when I feel like it.

I posted early in this thread defending Project Veritas because I am familiar with them and their track record, so I felt like I wanted to say just a little bit on your post. Inevitably, generalizations were posted that seemed to contradict my post, even though I kept my "generalizations" post nebulous enough.

Also, I don't feel like continuously relitigating prior points made or defenses on whatever topics, including Trump, with you, Bluehair, Buzz, or anyone. It makes me skip over many posts and just hit "like" or just ignore and carry on with my life.
 
HikeHunt61 said:
On the discussion portion of the thread: :)

I could actually believe that some idiot from Pfizer, drunk at a bar and wanting to impress somebody, said something stupid like that.

I honestly do not believe that Pfizer is looking to make us sick to make us well. They really do quite well without that kind of immense risk, and companies simply do not take those kinds of risks.

The other point I would make is Pfizer has 80,000 employees. If they are like any other big company of that size, they would have many hundreds of "director" level management. Out of those hundreds, could PV find one idiot to say something off the charts? They are dang good at it, so it's possible.
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No, not hundreds. Take a look at their organizational chart.
 
Implications???? From a carefully worded 'denial'?

Or more questions??? (thanks, Moe)

1. Has Pfizer conducted gain of function or directed evolution research as basic research or in the development of Comirnaty (the licensed biologic) or any other EUA'd, licensed, or as-of-yet-neither-EUA'd-nor-licensed vaccine?

2. Has BioNTech, any contractor/subcontractor, affiliate, subsidiary, collaborator, or sponsored researcher conducted gain-of-function or directed evolution research?

3. Have any Pfizer-affiliated-or-funded-or-sponsored entities conducted any non-gain-of-function and non-directed-evolution activities that modified the COVID-19 virus? (e.g., the sort of serial passage experimentation PV uncovered, which wouldn't necessarily yield gain-of-function and wouldn't necessarily be directed--just infect the monkeys and see what the virus does over time, maybe dosing the monkeys with a little molnupiravir to induce mutations and maybe some immune inhibitor to keep the monkeys for clearing the virus)


www.thegatewaypundit.com

Pfizer Quietly Releases Statement in Response to Bombshell Project Veritas Video | The Gateway Pundit | by Kristinn Taylor

After several days of silence and while much of the nation was on riot watch Friday night, pharmaceutical giant Pfizer quietly issued a statement responding to the Project Veritas video of Pfizer research director Jordon Trishton Walker talking about Pfizer exploring “directed evolution”...
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