Do you lame Boomers?

Millanials can pound sand, far as I’m concerned. I was once their age and nobody gave two sh!ts about me, what I had or didn’t have or what I thought I was entitled to but I didn’t cry because the older generation had more than I did, I just worked damn hard for what I got.
And they wonder why we call them millaniacs…
 
Shadow said:
Millanials can pound sand, far as I’m concerned. I was once their age and nobody gave two sh!ts about me, what I had or didn’t have or what I thought I was entitled to but I didn’t cry because the older generation had more than I did, I just worked damn hard for what I got.
And they wonder why we call them millaniacs…
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Remember who will be changing your bed pans someday ;) haha my wife and I are “millennials” sadly but I hate the mentality that my whiney generation carries. Lots of woe is me and that’s not fair, it gets old. Hell just work hard and you will get ahead. Shoot though I am crap full of everyone wanting to “tax the rich” we pay so much in taxes it’s disgusting, like go make your own damn money
 
Me and my wife are "millennials" Luckily, we both have a higher education and good jobs that both have pensions and good health insurance. Categorically we fall into the "upper class" category, but we definitely do not live that way. We bought a 2000 square foot house (1000 finished) built in 1943 in 2019 for 250k. We both drive used cars. Yet still we cannot afford to upgrade out of our starter home to new home (yes, we do save a lot of money every month). If back when I graduated from high school you told me what we make together I would have thought we were rich with a 5000 square foot house. Brand new truck and SUV with brand new boats, sxs and other toys. We are nowhere near that and live just like I would have thought someone back in 2010 lived with a 50k a year salary.

With that being said. Me, my wife and kid have everything we need and are fortunate to be where we are at now.

On the flip side I know a lot of people my age that have not been able to afford a home because of interest rates and costs of homes. Lots of people with decent jobs with crappy to no retirements with bad insurance. Most of these are single income households where the mother is staying home raising the children. I feel bad for them... But I also understand that life is not fair.

Now I 100% feel that most people need to be in a dual income household to be able to live comfortably (especially if you make less than 100k a year IMO). It is what it is... you can't blame anything on boomers or millennials. Times have changed and there is nothing we can do about it.
 
wetmule said:
Schumer is the only boomer. Brandon, Nanshee, Cocaine Mitch are all pre boomer. All should be long gone from govt. imo
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Yeah, if biden and them were around before 1945 then that'd be correct.

Doesn't matter though, they are what's wrong with this outfit anyway...
 
lundellhunting7 said:
Me and my wife are "millennials" Luckily, we both have a higher education and good jobs that both have pensions and good health insurance. Categorically we fall into the "upper class" category, but we definitely do not live that way. We bought a 2000 square foot house (1000 finished) built in 1943 in 2019 for 250k. We both drive used cars. Yet still we cannot afford to upgrade out of our starter home to new home (yes, we do save a lot of money every month). If back when I graduated from high school you told me what we make together I would have thought we were rich with a 5000 square foot house. Brand new truck and SUV with brand new boats, sxs and other toys. We are nowhere near that and live just like I would have thought someone back in 2010 lived with a 50k a year salary.

With that being said. Me, my wife and kid have everything we need and are fortunate to be where we are at now.

On the flip side I know a lot of people my age that have not been able to afford a home because of interest rates and costs of homes. Lots of people with decent jobs with crappy to no retirements with bad insurance. Most of these are single income households where the mother is staying home raising the children. I feel bad for them... But I also understand that life is not fair.

Now I 100% feel that most people need to be in a dual income household to be able to live comfortably (especially if you make less than 100k a year IMO). It is what it is... you can't blame anything on boomers or millennials. Times have changed and there is nothing we can do about it.
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I agree, it seems like the cost of living has skyrocketed in the last 5-7 years, to the point of it being stupid, my parents “big” house bought in 94’ was 4800 sq for around 275k, same house today is 900k, wages have not kept up pace with inflation at all,
 
HntHrdr said:
I would rewrite the article, I think it’s Progressive liberals, socialists policies, and bad monetary policy are to blame, not boomers, plenty of young people who buy into the same bull crap
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Course they do…….. we taught them nothing is their fault so they have nothing to be accountable for…….. especially who they vote for.
 
HntHrdr said:
Remember who will be changing your bed pans someday ;) haha my wife and I are “millennials” sadly but I hate the mentality that my whiney generation carries. Lots of woe is me and that’s not fair, it gets old. Hell just work hard and you will get ahead. Shoot though I am crap full of everyone wanting to “tax the rich” we pay so much in taxes it’s disgusting, like go make your own damn money
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You’re probably right, I’ll be the miserable old turd that gets my wheel chair kicked down the stairs of the rest home.
 
it’s interesting what inflation has done. 10 years ago making over 100k left you with a lot of extra money to invest. If you did not through your money away. I am barely one step into the boomers. Working hard, smart investments and not over spending has made it so I should retire comfortably. Unless inflation doubles or this once great country gets worse. I see people around me just spending money like crazy. Some end up going bankrupt and don’t care. They wait their time and do it again. All that does is make everything more expensive for everyone.
 
I got into a discussion with a millennial a while back. He said boomers are selfish and greedy and used up all the resources and don't care about the next generation. I asked him, "how bad can it be for you when your generations' biggest problem is trying to figure out what gender you are?"

The 60's were a time of change. I blame the Beatles :ROFLMAO: . They gave young people "permission" to grow their hair long, rebel against authority, take drugs, free love. It was the beginning of progressive liberalism. Boomers have to take responsibility for that at least to a degree. I didn't do any of that because my dad would have killed me.

We made a lot of contributions though. Look how far technology has advanced in all areas of life. Nobody has to go hungry.
 
It's fun to watch the whiniest generation go after the "boomers".

While all the gen x folks do what we've always done, just keep plugging along.

I guess all that "find yourself" and "find a job that fulfills your spirit" crap kinda came back to bite millennials in the azz huh?

The old timers just got their azz to work, worked more than 40 a week, didn't buy "starter" homes, didn't eat out, have phones, vacation, etc, etc, etc.

But, like I said,. The gen x folks, will just watch the whiners and criers go after the old folks.
 
lundellhunting7 said:
Me and my wife are "millennials" Luckily, we both have a higher education and good jobs that both have pensions and good health insurance. Categorically we fall into the "upper class" category, but we definitely do not live that way. We bought a 2000 square foot house (1000 finished) built in 1943 in 2019 for 250k. We both drive used cars. Yet still we cannot afford to upgrade out of our starter home to new home (yes, we do save a lot of money every month). If back when I graduated from high school you told me what we make together I would have thought we were rich with a 5000 square foot house. Brand new truck and SUV with brand new boats, sxs and other toys. We are nowhere near that and live just like I would have thought someone back in 2010 lived with a 50k a year salary.

With that being said. Me, my wife and kid have everything we need and are fortunate to be where we are at now.

On the flip side I know a lot of people my age that have not been able to afford a home because of interest rates and costs of homes. Lots of people with decent jobs with crappy to no retirements with bad insurance. Most of these are single income households where the mother is staying home raising the children. I feel bad for them... But I also understand that life is not fair.

Now I 100% feel that most people need to be in a dual income household to be able to live comfortably (especially if you make less than 100k a year IMO). It is what it is... you can't blame anything on boomers or millennials. Times have changed and there is nothing we can do about it.
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In 97' I bought down my interest rate and was thrilled to get it.

7.25%

Interest rates are historically low.

My folks who built in the 70's was 15%



Unfortunately, the millennial generation, mostly because they were the first of the lazy generations, turned their noses at the thought of blue collar, or entrepreneurship. They somehow believed that they could hang out in college, then go work for someone else and that was the way to make it.

The older generations looked at opportunities, not schemes.

Same is true today. Colleges are full of kids that see blue collar as beneath them. They will spend $100,000 to get a job that pays less, than what they could of had in the trades, or from building a buisness. But somehow, in their mind, they are "better" and more deserving for being in essence, dumber.

I watched first hand, 20 somethings, buying high end, big custom houses. They'd pull up to take pics of construction in escalades and Yukon's. Wife dressed like a million, little kids all wearing name brands. They'd close on the house, move in, with boats, toy haulers, ATVs. Houses decorated to the max. Hired landscapers, vinyl fences.

I'd watch that from houses we were working on, 12 hours a day, 6 days a week plus half day Sundays and wonder "what the hell I'm I doing wrong".

Then 08' hit, and all those young millennials, we found out, financed their lifestyle from interest only loans and multiple refinances. They hadn't built value, or wealth, they built piggy banks. Now those folks whine because they don't have that wealth that their parents who didn't buy into schemes, have.

A generation in their 40's, still looking for what hurts them, THE EASY WAY. There isn't one. Ask a boomer. Or gen xer
 
The other downside to @hussburr above statement is that with all this whining and feeling of entitlement minimum wage has climbed. Besides the fact that no one wants to get their hands dirty. I have always had a high school kid or two to clean the shop. They knew if they hustled and got their job done you would show them how to weld, do minor vehicle repairs, etc. Those days are GONE. And the quality of help sucks. Most guys now get to work right at start time (or a few minutes late). Then put their crap away, get their coffee, take a 20 minute dump, etc. At quitting time they are already out the door. And I won’t start on having to tell them break/lunch is over and to get back to work.
The climbing minimum wage and what you have to pay someone who can’t get the job done. Has hindered companies from increasing skilled worker wages to compensate for inflation. When skill construction (concrete) workers were making $35 an hour in 1980 the laborers were making $5 an hour. This gave people an incentive to work harder, learn, and hustle.
Todays wage split between skilled and unskilled is creating a merge between low and middle income. One more step towards socialism.
 
hossblur said:
In 97' I bought down my interest rate and was thrilled to get it.

7.25%

Interest rates are historically low.

My folks who built in the 70's was 15%
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Yep. We built our 2 bedroom 2 bath house in 1974 and signed a 25 year loan at 11.25% interest. And then I got up every day and went to work. I'm sitting in that house as I write this.

What we paid for this house wouldn't even cover the cost of the building permit now days. Housing is almost impossible for kids these days.
 
eelgrass said:
Yep. We built our 2 bedroom 2 bath house in 1974 and signed a 25 year loan at 11.25% interest. And then I got up every day and went to work. I'm sitting in that house as I write this.

What we paid for this house wouldn't even cover the cost of the building permit now days. Housing is almost impossible for kids these days.
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Those same kids voted for the people who made building permits cost so much.

I'm betting that house your in is worth at least 10x now?

I know the sacrifices me, and most folks I know made to get a house.

That $1500 iphone, doesn't show much sacrifice.

I say that typing on my $199 Android. Sitting in a stripped down work truck, on a Saturday at work(watching mud dry), on a normal week, which means 60+ hours. Wearing a pair of Keen work boots that I wear everyday, drinking coffee from home, having eaten a piece of toast from home.

Going to work on a millennials house, who I had to wake up this morning, who just left, in his new f150, with earbuds in, with skis on the roof.

Sacrifice. A word kids don't know
 
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hossblur said:
In 97' I bought down my interest rate and was thrilled to get it.

7.25%

Interest rates are historically low.

My folks who built in the 70's was 15%



Unfortunately, the millennial generation, mostly because they were the first of the lazy generations, turned their noses at the thought of blue collar, or entrepreneurship. They somehow believed that they could hang out in college, then go work for someone else and that was the way to make it.

The older generations looked at opportunities, not schemes.

Same is true today. Colleges are full of kids that see blue collar as beneath them. They will spend $100,000 to get a job that pays less, than what they could of had in the trades, or from building a buisness. But somehow, in their mind, they are "better" and more deserving for being in essence, dumber.

I watched first hand, 20 somethings, buying high end, big custom houses. They'd pull up to take pics of construction in escalades and Yukon's. Wife dressed like a million, little kids all wearing name brands. They'd close on the house, move in, with boats, toy haulers, ATVs. Houses decorated to the max. Hired landscapers, vinyl fences.

I'd watch that from houses we were working on, 12 hours a day, 6 days a week plus half day Sundays and wonder "what the hell I'm I doing wrong".

Then 08' hit, and all those young millennials, we found out, financed their lifestyle from interest only loans and multiple refinances. They hadn't built value, or wealth, they built piggy banks. Now those folks whine because they don't have that wealth that their parents who didn't buy into schemes, have.

A generation in their 40's, still looking for what hurts them, THE EASY WAY. There isn't one. Ask a boomer. Or gen xer
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Hahahahahahahaa what a bunch of BS.

But it was worth a good laugh.
 
Many may have seen me post this in the past.

"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."

I'm am no millennial nor a boomer but I do believe this is true. I have not been part of an easy upbringing we were raised in a financially poor household. This alone taught multiple life lessons while instilling permanent values. We all want our children to have better lives than we did. This has lead in part to this separation between eras. Reflecting upon each time period that includes major conflicts and I see the life style changes.

I am hoping the Pelosi era of flower power protest is behind us and the rest of those dam make love not war hippies will pass the baton to the next generation. Time to move on! We are seeing history repeat itself with Nixon = Trump era, Carter = Biden era, Reagan = ?... Guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
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The other downside to @hussburr above statement is that with all this whining and feeling of entitlement minimum wage has climbed. Besides the fact that no one wants to get their hands dirty. I have always had a high school kid or two to clean the shop. They knew if they hustled and got their job done you would show them how to weld, do minor vehicle repairs, etc. Those days are GONE. And the quality of help sucks. Most guys now get to work right at start time (or a few minutes late). Then put their crap away, get their coffee, take a 20 minute dump, etc. At quitting time they are already out the door. And I won’t start on having to tell them break/lunch is over and to get back to work.
The climbing minimum wage and what you have to pay someone who can’t get the job done. Has hindered companies from increasing skilled worker wages to compensate for inflation. When skill construction (concrete) workers were making $35 an hour in 1980 the laborers were making $5 an hour. This gave people an incentive to work harder, learn, and hustle.
Todays wage split between skilled and unskilled is creating a merge between low and middle income. One more step towards socialism.
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Most everything listed here is true and is what lends to one of the biggest shams society has ever been duped into.

The post is accurate in detailing what goes on now in the workplace. The sham is that we've all been conditioned into thinking that we have to work fulltime for our money through someone else (a company). If there were more free-lance operations out there, aka contract style work, many of these plagues would not exist. You'd only get paid for what work you did, no guaranteed wages for no output.

The other sham is being conditioned into relying on benefits for any kind of life at all. PTO/vacation being the biggest.

Everyone's situation is different though and I get that. But just as employees take advantage, employers do as well...
 
SS! said:
The myth boomer didn’t complain and just went to work is hilarious. Sounds good but it’s a bunch of BS.
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They complained. But at work.

Your work is further proof.

Out of state hunting wasn't a thing for boomers. Alaska was a pipe dream.

Now we have to limit NR and yearly states bump prices, and there is still no limit in supply of apps, and it isn't 70 yr olds doing it.
 
hossblur said:
They complained. But at work.

Your work is further proof.

Out of state hunting wasn't a thing for boomers. Alaska was a pipe dream.

Now we have to limit NR and yearly states bump prices, and there is still no limit in supply of apps, and it isn't 70 yr olds doing it.
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?????

Riiight. Tell me again the “blue” collar story vs not going to college again. That one is funny too.
 
hossblur said:
Those same kids voted for the people who made building permits cost so much.

I'm betting that house your in is worth at least 10x now?

I know the sacrifices me, and most folks I know made to get a house.

That $1500 iphone, doesn't show much sacrifice.

I say that typing on my $199 Android. Sitting in a stripped down work truck, on a Saturday at work(watching mud dry), on a normal week, which means 60+ hours. Wearing a pair of Keen work boots that I wear everyday, drinking coffee from home, having eaten a piece of toast from home.

Going to work on a millennials house, who I had to wake up this morning, who just left, in his new f150, with earbuds in, with skis on the roof.

Sacrifice. A word kids don't know
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The difference between now and when you bought a house is rent has went through the roof. People used to be able to get by and "sacrifice" while having a stay at home mom pay the bills and rent and still be able to save enough for a down payment on a house that was around 150k that in the end had an interest rate of 11+ percent.

Now that is a thing of the past... the "sacrifice" in my mind is having a dual income family where both parents work and children are in daycare.... me and my wife have made "sacrifices" that are different than what you made. It has gotten us to a point where we have a good living. But on the other hand their are people that do not want to make that "sacrifice" and because of that home ownership is unattainable because of high rent and being unable to save money for a down payment.


On the other hand playing devils advocate that you obviously did not "sacrifice" enough because you are in an older generation having to wake up on a Saturday using a 199 dollar phone in a stripped down truck to be able to make a living. Where I am sitting at home. Woke up at 5am to go to the gym on a Saturday then spend time with my family.... I guess I could go get another job for weekends to "sacrifice" a little more to make more money... but to me I would rather spend that time with my family.

In the end I am not saying your prospective is right or wrong.... but everyone lives different lives. My generation you cannot say that it is not harder today to be able to afford a house... even with those lower interest rates inflation and rent increases has screwed a lot of people over.

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lundellhunting7 said:
The difference between now and when you bought a house is rent has went through the roof. People used to be able to get by and "sacrifice" while having a stay at home mom pay the bills and rent and still be able to save enough for a down payment on a house that was around 150k that in the end had an interest rate of 11+ percent.

Now that is a thing of the past... the "sacrifice" in my mind is having a dual income family where both parents work and children are in daycare.... me and my wife have made "sacrifices" that are different than what you made. It has gotten us to a point where we have a good living. But on the other hand their are people that do not want to make that "sacrifice" and because of that home ownership is unattainable because of high rent and being unable to save money for a down payment.


On the other hand playing devils advocate that you obviously did not "sacrifice" enough because you are in an older generation having to wake up on a Saturday using a 199 dollar phone in a stripped down truck to be able to make a living. Where I am sitting at home. Woke up at 5am to go to the gym on a Saturday then spend time with my family.... I guess I could go get another job for weekends to "sacrifice" a little more to make more money... but to me I would rather spend that time with my family.

In the end I am not saying your prospective is right or wrong.... but everyone lives different lives. My generation you cannot say that it is not harder today to be able to afford a house... even with those lower interest rates inflation and rent increases has screwed a lot of people over.

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Very true. I was chatting with a cashier at the store the other day. I asked him how much he pays for rent. He said $1100 for a three room 2nd story apartment, plus utilities.

3.5% interest rate sound great until you realize the house is overpriced by a factor of 4.
 
lundellhunting7 said:
The difference between now and when you bought a house is rent has went through the roof. People used to be able to get by and "sacrifice" while having a stay at home mom pay the bills and rent and still be able to save enough for a down payment on a house that was around 150k that in the end had an interest rate of 11+ percent.

Now that is a thing of the past... the "sacrifice" in my mind is having a dual income family where both parents work and children are in daycare.... me and my wife have made "sacrifices" that are different than what you made. It has gotten us to a point where we have a good living. But on the other hand their are people that do not want to make that "sacrifice" and because of that home ownership is unattainable because of high rent and being unable to save money for a down payment.


On the other hand playing devils advocate that you obviously did not "sacrifice" enough because you are in an older generation having to wake up on a Saturday using a 199 dollar phone in a stripped down truck to be able to make a living. Where I am sitting at home. Woke up at 5am to go to the gym on a Saturday then spend time with my family.... I guess I could go get another job for weekends to "sacrifice" a little more to make more money... but to me I would rather spend that time with my family.

In the end I am not saying your prospective is right or wrong.... but everyone lives different lives. My generation you cannot say that it is not harder today to be able to afford a house... even with those lower interest rates inflation and rent increases has screwed a lot of people over.

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"Have to"?

Nah.

But come Sept-Jan, I like to hunt. So that pile of cash I make "having to" work today pays for that vs Visa or MC, or home equity loans.


I work in people's homes daily. The things you see, vs what people say is funny. Things folks don't really think about.

Did your grandpa hire a landscaper? How about a handyman? A disaster clean up company? Car detailer?

Hell the job I'm doing today, a elbow through a wall fr kids wrestling.

Boomers would just fix it. Millennials, even with YouTube to show them how, just hire it.

$300, for a few hours work, most of which is watching hot mud dry because there's a generational mindset difference.

$300 is groceries for a week for his family, now instead of investing in his own wealth, he invested in mine.

I don't do much repair work for boomers, and almost never hang sheetrock for them, they will always try to do as much as they can before they call a pro. That's just the mindset.

Your family and gym mindset isn't wrong, but it does affect your "wealth"
 
In all generations, since 1946, boomers through Gen Alpha, in the United States of America.

Genetics……. huge and they get more visible the older we get.

Environment…… limit or enhance exposure.

Choices…… those forks we all have to decide on. Thousands of them, some major, some that don’t seem like they are but actually, down the road, end up being huge.

Nothing we can do about our genetics, not a lot we can do about our environment until about 15%-20% of our road has been traveled, choices are the only thing we control completely.

Some make choices and become Ben Carson others make choices and become Hunter Biden.

God bless America.
 
hossblur said:
"Have to"?

Nah.

But come Sept-Jan, I like to hunt. So that pile of cash I make "having to" work today pays for that vs Visa or MC, or home equity loans.


I work in people's homes daily. The things you see, vs what people say is funny. Things folks don't really think about.

Did your grandpa hire a landscaper? How about a handyman? A disaster clean up company? Car detailer?

Hell the job I'm doing today, a elbow through a wall fr kids wrestling.

Boomers would just fix it. Millennials, even with YouTube to show them how, just hire it.

$300, for a few hours work, most of which is watching hot mud dry because there's a generational mindset difference.

$300 is groceries for a week for his family, now instead of investing in his own wealth, he invested in mine.

I don't do much repair work for boomers, and almost never hang sheetrock for them, they will always try to do as much as they can before they call a pro. That's just the mindset.

Your family and gym mindset isn't wrong, but it does affect your "wealth"
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Luckily me and my wife had made “sacrifices” to be where we are at now. We definitely can afford to do what we want. But a lot of people my age don’t have that luxury. I 100% understand that I could make more if I worked weekends but luckily I can afford not to!
 
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lundellhunting7 said:
Luckily me and my wife had made “sacrifices” to be where we are at now. We definitely can afford to do what we want. But a lot of people my age don’t have that luxury. I 100% understand that I could make more if I worked weekends but luckily I can afford not to!
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My grandma used to darn socks over a lightbulb, they canned everything, never in their life went on a trip, never ate out. Grandpa painted his jeep with a paint brush. They wore sweaters rather than heat, etc, etc.

She stayed home.

My mom stayed home until I was 12.

We were like all my neighbors, poor.

We chose different at our place. That's not the boomers fault. That was a choice.

I work around a lot of "jose and the jalapenos". Those dudes work, a lot. They drive chitty trucks. They wear thrift store clothes. They haul around Walmart special microwaves to eat lunch, and generally dinner, cuz they are still at it.

Those guys, do what my grandparents did.

I'm not willing to do what they do, that's a choice. That choice meant mamma works.

Mamma working meant my kids go on a vacation every year. We hunt a bunch. We have a trailer. They get pizza Fridays, etc.

Millennials made different choices than sacrificing everything for a home. They just don't want to seem to live with that choice
 
It’s nice to look back romantically and say things like my mom canned food, blah blah blah. That doesn’t mean chit and isn’t relevant to the conversation.

I’m sorry you think you were poor. Your self comparison to everyone around makes you sad. Hopefully you get help for it.

Many would think you were rich. Hell you had a jeep for focks sake. Nice humble brag.
 
One difference I noticed that Hoss reminded me of. In 40+ years of working I never once went out for fast food for lunch or bought coffee out of a vending machine. The younger guys pile into their cars and go buy lunch. A lunch box and a thermos for me. That's a lot of money saved over 40 years.
 
Hey hossy was it a box of cereal or cracker jacks you found your journeyman drywall card? Oh that’s right there’s no such thing. Hahaha

Even an alaska guide license has an apprenticeship and an actual license.
 
eelgrass said:
One difference I noticed that Hoss reminded me of. In 40+ years of working I never once went out for fast food for lunch or bought coffee out of a vending machine. The younger guys pile into their cars and go buy lunch. A lunch box and a thermos for me. That's a lot of money saved over 40 years.
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That’s pretty cool eelgrass. When I was young I was the same way, packed lunch. Now a days I’m always taking clients out to lunch or being taken out to lunch it seems. A couple days back I bought lunch for the company. It goes a long ways buying lunch for the crew.
 
I hear stories about how folks are working two jobs to make ends meet now days. I hear how much homes cost. I hear how much vehicles cost. I hear it’s $3.50 for gasoline. McDonald’s fish sandwich is $6.29, Wendy’s 4 Chicken Nuggets is $$4.79. Krispy Crème Donut is advertising $13.00 per hour, starting pay, and begging people to work. Nearly every fast food location in Utah has a help wanted sign on their door.

In 1961 my wages were $2.00 a day. In 1966 they were 81 cents an hour. In 1973, with a Bachelors Degree in Business Management my wages were $5.75. (I built houses full time so it took me five years to graduate.) My buddies shamed me for buying a single wide trailer to living. in at college. I did it so I’d have a down payment on a house when I graduated.) A month after I graduated I put down $3000 for a new house, in the cheapest subdivision in the city. It was 24’ wide by 40’ long, 960 square feet. Cost was $22,500. Three years later my wages I sold the house for $44,500 (how’s that for inflation) built a new 1,490 sq. ft home two years later, cost me $43,000 in 1977. I’m still living in it 47 years later. In 1977 my wages jumped to $6.90……… From $5.75 from $6.90 during some of the inflationary years. From 1977 until 1983 I work three jobs. 8 to 5 for a a local Oil company, 5 to 9 at a gas station and I keep books for a technology non-profit on the weekends. In 1983 I went partnership and started an Apple Computer Dealership, in deep rural Utah. In 1988 my partners wanted out and we sold it, the partners agree to accept payment over ten years. Nine months into the agreement the buyer filed bankruptcy. I went to work for the company that bought the assets from the bankruptcy liquidation. I worked for the new owner until he had paid the loan off he had taken out to buy the assets, straight commission sales. In 1994 went work for a local school district for $17.50 an hour. In 1988 my wife had to go to work to help feed and cloth our children. It took every penny. I had a Browning BAR .338, I’d saved up and bought it a RMEF dinner back in the early 1990’s. Never fired it. I think I pawned and buy it back at least 4 different times in order to make my house mortgage payment. I bought and sold 3 different Remington 870 wing master shotguns to pay various past due utility bills. I payed the mortgage on my house of 17 years ago, but still I borrow money to by a vehicle. I very rarely by new vehicles, usually find one with 15,000 to 40,000 miles on them, drive them until they are completely worn out.

Has life been easy…….. not in my opinion. Yet I feel like I’ve lived as well as anyone one alive. My children, all 5, have grown up and raised hard working patriotic children. Together and alone, they have traveled the country and the world. They have hunted/fished in Asia, Africa, Mexico, Alaska, Canada, Central America and countless of 48 US States. Been on numerous business trips to China. Served in combat for the US armed forces. Build their own successful businesses. They golf, fish, snow ski, cook their own meals, dine at great restaurants, swear too much, some take a shot of whiskey on occasion, some pay tithes, My wife and have been retired for 11 years this May. We live with in our means on the savings and investments we made with out a hell of a lot of discretionary money that had left over each month.

I can understand our twenty year olds looking at the world today and being discouraged and depressed when it come to economics and financial matters. Vehicles cost $65,000 and more, houses cost $400,000 and more, Disney World cost $190 a day, bullets for a 30 Nosler $110 a box, a 18’ fishing boat $24,000, Motel rooms $260 a night, Big Mac meal $9.69, eBike $4,600, ATV $16,000, etc etc.

It’s that all the twenty year olds will settle for, as they enter the work force, I guess they’ll just have to call us greedy and self center. Drop down to older used car, a 1000 sq ft house, work two jobs and the weekend, ride a peddle bike, by a 270 caliber Savage, get by with a used 14’ aluminum boat with a used 6 hp outboard, go to local National Park on vacation, eat at pork and chicken at home, sleep in a tent in October, hunt in Wranglers and a Cargartt parka. Wear Rocky boots.

Is that stuff cool, comfortable, spacious, high quality, fashionable……… nope, it’s cheap. Will it get you there and back, yea it will, and you might even enjoy the ride.

Here’s my guess, the hard workers, the independent, driven to survive and to thrive under adversity will do just fine, those that won’t are going to struggle. Seems pretty similar to what us boomers went through. Nobody paid for our $5.00 ribeye then and nobody pays for our $50.00 ribeye today.
 
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A couple days back I bought lunch for the company. It goes a long ways buying lunch for the crew.
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I should have worked for you. I was on the safety committee for a few years. The company bought us dinner when we had our quarterly meetings.
 
Christmas dinners……. from a couple of employees. That was about it.

Bosses pay for a lot more meal tickets with clients a hell of a lot more often than do for employees. Always have, alway will.
 
2lumpy said:
Christmas dinners……. from a couple of employees. That was about it.

Bosses pay for a lot more meal tickets with clients a hell of a lot more often than do for employees. Always have, alway will.
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Well I hope so. After all the clients give you the work so your employees keep their jobs ?

We have a a dozen or so vendors that buy my company fishing charters up here. By the end of summer I’m sick and tired of going out fishing for halibut, lingcod and rockfish. I would rather they take my workers but they are not interested it that. They want to take the people that cut the 250k PO numbers. Not the guy that installs their products. But the workers don’t see it that way. They see the PMs and owners going out fishing for free. Last summer the dates the deWalt rep picked didn’t work for any of my office guys or me. When I said I would send one to my foremen he wasn’t interested and it turned into maybe next year.

So it’s not always what it seems. Hard for workers to understand that. But I do make sure my guys get their freezers with halibut and salmon ?
 
Wait What !!!!
The S-H-I-T you little fk'ers come up with is mind-blowing ...

I thought this was all Trumps fault ?????...
 
2lumpy said:
Christmas dinners……. from a couple of employees. That was about it.

Bosses pay for a lot more meal tickets with clients a hell of a lot more often than do for employees. Always have, alway will.
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Every Thanksgiving and Christmas every employee got a gift card to a locally owned grocery store. Not Safeway or other national chain. A mom and pop's store. With about 150 employees, it boosted their business. Unfortunately there aren't many mom and pop stores left.
 
SS! said:
Well I hope so. After all the clients give you the work so your employees keep their jobs ?

We have a a dozen or so vendors that buy my company fishing charters up here. By the end of summer I’m sick and tired of going out fishing for halibut, lingcod and rockfish. I would rather they take my workers but they are not interested it that. They want to take the people that cut the 250k PO numbers. Not the guy that installs their products. But the workers don’t see it that way. They see the PMs and owners going out fishing for free. Last summer the dates the deWalt rep picked didn’t work for any of my office guys or me. When I said I would send one to my foremen he wasn’t interested and it turned into maybe next year.

So it’s not always what it seems. Hard for workers to understand that. But I do make sure my guys get their freezers with halibut and salmon ?
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Yep…… been both. I know the score from most all perspectives.
 
hossblur said:
In 97' I bought down my interest rate and was thrilled to get it.

7.25%

Interest rates are historically low.

My folks who built in the 70's was 15%



Unfortunately, the millennial generation, mostly because they were the first of the lazy generations, turned their noses at the thought of blue collar, or entrepreneurship. They somehow believed that they could hang out in college, then go work for someone else and that was the way to make it.

The older generations looked at opportunities, not schemes.

Same is true today. Colleges are full of kids that see blue collar as beneath them. They will spend $100,000 to get a job that pays less, than what they could of had in the trades, or from building a buisness. But somehow, in their mind, they are "better" and more deserving for being in essence, dumber.

I watched first hand, 20 somethings, buying high end, big custom houses. They'd pull up to take pics of construction in escalades and Yukon's. Wife dressed like a million, little kids all wearing name brands. They'd close on the house, move in, with boats, toy haulers, ATVs. Houses decorated to the max. Hired landscapers, vinyl fences.

I'd watch that from houses we were working on, 12 hours a day, 6 days a week plus half day Sundays and wonder "what the hell I'm I doing wrong".

Then 08' hit, and all those young millennials, we found out, financed their lifestyle from interest only loans and multiple refinances. They hadn't built value, or wealth, they built piggy banks. Now those folks whine because they don't have that wealth that their parents who didn't buy into schemes, have.

A generation in their 40's, still looking for what hurts them, THE EASY WAY. There isn't one. Ask a boomer. Or gen xer
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So in 08 the oldest Millennial was 27 or 28. So most of the foreclosures was the tail end of the Gen Xers, I know the foreclosed home I bought in 08 at 23 was from a gen xer. So not sure how many millennials homes you were working on.

I also know banks at that time in 2007 were offering 10x your salary to buy a home, which anyone who studied math realized this was not really feasible....it was not millennials who were offering those loans that didn't make financial sense.

Also I do find it funny that boomers are mostly the parents of millennials, and somehow this whole generation of millennials turned out awful but the parenting of boomers was amazing. Just weird they could all go so far off course.

There are winners and losers in all generations, comparing the top 5% of boomers to the biggest cry babies of the millennials is not really apples to apples. Are there Gen Z kids that are lazy and are afraid to get driver's license, yes, but I know a bunch that lettered in 3 sports, volunteered for a charity, worked and got good grades. I'm guessing they will be the winners in their generation and they won't need to can fruits or vegetables to do it.

No matter the generation, anyone working just 40 hours a week isn't going to get ahead. One of my best friends will be quasi retired by 40, she didn't get there by being lazy.

I'm pretty sure boomers gave us point systems and that is unforgivable, lol.
 
LivingTheDream said:
So in 08 the oldest Millennial was 27 or 28. So most of the foreclosures was the tail end of the Gen Xers, I know the foreclosed home I bought in 08 at 23 was from a gen xer. So not sure how many millennials homes you were working on.

I also know banks at that time in 2007 were offering 10x your salary to buy a home, which anyone who studied math realized this was not really feasible....it was not millennials who were offering those loans that didn't make financial sense.

Also I do find it funny that boomers are mostly the parents of millennials, and somehow this whole generation of millennials turned out awful but the parenting of boomers was amazing. Just weird they could all go so far off course.

There are winners and losers in all generations, comparing the top 5% of boomers to the biggest cry babies of the millennials is not really apples to apples. Are there Gen Z kids that are lazy and are afraid to get driver's license, yes, but I know a bunch that lettered in 3 sports, volunteered for a charity, worked and got good grades. I'm guessing they will be the winners in their generation and they won't need to can fruits or vegetables to do it.

No matter the generation, anyone working just 40 hours a week isn't going to get ahead. One of my best friends will be quasi retired by 40, she didn't get there by being lazy.

I'm pretty sure boomers gave us point systems and that is unforgivable, lol.
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Yep, we did LTD. That’s not all we screwed up either. I’ll own what we did…….. one thing we didn’t do, for sure, that the WWII generation did for us, is kick your asses near enough. LOL
 
LivingTheDream said:
So in 08 the oldest Millennial was 27 or 28. So most of the foreclosures was the tail end of the Gen Xers, I know the foreclosed home I bought in 08 at 23 was from a gen xer. So not sure how many millennials homes you were working on.

I also know banks at that time in 2007 were offering 10x your salary to buy a home, which anyone who studied math realized this was not really feasible....it was not millennials who were offering those loans that didn't make financial sense.

Also I do find it funny that boomers are mostly the parents of millennials, and somehow this whole generation of millennials turned out awful but the parenting of boomers was amazing. Just weird they could all go so far off course.

There are winners and losers in all generations, comparing the top 5% of boomers to the biggest cry babies of the millennials is not really apples to apples. Are there Gen Z kids that are lazy and are afraid to get driver's license, yes, but I know a bunch that lettered in 3 sports, volunteered for a charity, worked and got good grades. I'm guessing they will be the winners in their generation and they won't need to can fruits or vegetables to do it.

No matter the generation, anyone working just 40 hours a week isn't going to get ahead. One of my best friends will be quasi retired by 40, she didn't get there by being lazy.

I'm pretty sure boomers gave us point systems and that is unforgivable, lol.
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About 450 houses a year.

And yeah, most of them were being bought by the 25-35 crowd.


I have gen z kids.

They are different. Really different.

My oldest has 2 jobs. All his buddies have jobs. They do redneck chit.

But your correct, that's the exception.

But, they also are pretty risk averse. They aren't as wild as I was. They aren't as horny either?. They unfortunately had covid teach them about how stupid school is so there's that battle.

The point that millennials don't want to make.

The largest transfer of wealth ever is about to happen as boomers die, and all the appreciation in houses, stock market, etc, is inherited by the millennial crowd.

But, what do I know. I'm a gen x dude. We don't exist?

You're dead on with point schemes
 
It was all boomers who went to Vietnam where 75,000 of them died and the rest got spit on when they returned, and nobody would hire those crazy unstable misfits. Some are still living on the streets.
 
2lumpy said:
I hear stories about how folks are working two jobs to make ends meet now days. I hear how much homes cost. I hear how much vehicles cost. I hear it’s $3.50 for gasoline. McDonald’s fish sandwich is $6.29, Wendy’s 4 Chicken Nuggets is $$4.79. Krispy Crème Donut is advertising $13.00 per hour, starting pay, and begging people to work. Nearly every fast food location in Utah has a help wanted sign on their door.

In 1961 my wages were $2.00 a day. In 1966 they were 81 cents an hour. In 1973, with a Bachelors Degree in Business Management my wages were $5.75. (I built houses full time so it took me five years to graduate.) My buddies shamed me for buying a single wide trailer to living. in at college. I did it so I’d have a down payment on a house when I graduated.) A month after I graduated I put down $3000 for a new house, in the cheapest subdivision in the city. It was 24’ wide by 40’ long, 960 square feet. Cost was $22,500. Three years later my wages I sold the house for $44,500 (how’s that for inflation) built a new 1,490 sq. ft home two years later, cost me $43,000 in 1977. I’m still living in it 47 years later. In 1977 my wages jumped to $6.90……… From $5.75 from $6.90 during some of the inflationary years. From 1977 until 1983 I work three jobs. 8 to 5 for a a local Oil company, 5 to 9 at a gas station and I keep books for a technology non-profit on the weekends. In 1983 I went partnership and started an Apple Computer Dealership, in deep rural Utah. In 1988 my partners wanted out and we sold it, the partners agree to accept payment over ten years. Nine months into the agreement the buyer filed bankruptcy. I went to work for the company that bought the assets from the bankruptcy liquidation. I worked for the new owner until he had paid the loan off he had taken out to buy the assets, straight commission sales. In 1994 went work for a local school district for $17.50 an hour. In 1988 my wife had to go to work to help feed and cloth our children. It took every penny. I had a Browning BAR .338, I’d saved up and bought it a RMEF dinner back in the early 1990’s. Never fired it. I think I pawned and buy it back at least 4 different times in order to make my house mortgage payment. I bought and sold 3 different Remington 870 wing master shotguns to pay various past due utility bills. I payed the mortgage on my house of 17 years ago, but still I borrow money to by a vehicle. I very rarely by new vehicles, usually find one with 15,000 to 40,000 miles on them, drive them until they are completely worn out.

Has life been easy…….. not in my opinion. Yet I feel like I’ve lived as well as anyone one alive. My children, all 5, have grown up and raised hard working patriotic children. Together and alone, they have traveled the country and the world. They have hunted/fished in Asia, Africa, Mexico, Alaska, Canada, Central America and countless of 48 US States. Been on numerous business trips to China. Served in combat for the US armed forces. Build their own successful businesses. They golf, fish, snow ski, cook their own meals, dine at great restaurants, swear too much, some take a shot of whiskey on occasion, some pay tithes, My wife and have been retired for 11 years this May. We live with in our means on the savings and investments we made with out a hell of a lot of discretionary money that had left over each month.

I can understand our twenty year olds looking at the world today and being discouraged and depressed when it come to economics and financial matters. Vehicles cost $65,000 and more, houses cost $400,000 and more, Disney World cost $190 a day, bullets for a 30 Nosler $110 a box, a 18’ fishing boat $24,000, Motel rooms $260 a night, Big Mac meal $9.69, eBike $4,600, ATV $16,000, etc etc.

It’s that all the twenty year olds will settle for, as they enter the work force, I guess they’ll just have to call us greedy and self center. Drop down to older used car, a 1000 sq ft house, work two jobs and the weekend, ride a peddle bike, by a 270 caliber Savage, get by with a used 14’ aluminum boat with a used 6 hp outboard, go to local National Park on vacation, eat at pork and chicken at home, sleep in a tent in October, hunt in Wranglers and a Cargartt parka. Wear Rocky boots.

Is that stuff cool, comfortable, spacious, high quality, fashionable……… nope, it’s cheap. Will it get you there and back, yea it will, and you might even enjoy the ride.

Here’s my guess, the hard workers, the independent, driven to survive and to thrive under adversity will do just fine, those that won’t are going to struggle. Seems pretty similar to what us boomers went through. Nobody paid for our $5.00 ribeye then and nobody pays for our $50.00 ribeye today.
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.81 an hour??? I was only getting .75 an hour.
 
eelgrass said:
It was all boomers who went to Vietnam where 75,000 of them died and the rest got spit on when they returned, and nobody would hire those crazy unstable misfits. Some are still living on the streets.
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It wasn't all boomers, as about half of boomers were too young. There were many from the silent generation.
 
hossblur said:
But, they also are pretty risk averse. They aren't as wild as I was. They aren't as horny either?. They unfortunately had covid teach them about how stupid school is so there's that battle.
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This is very spot on, my nephews and cousins definitely are way more risk averse and calm. Just different. Also seeing the same battle with school as well.
 
My first job right out of high school was salary. $377/month as a forest fire fighter. California was a rich state even back in 1966.
 
SS! said:
Not to be nosey but are you on a pension?
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No. I worked for California Division of Forestry (now called Cal Fire) for 2 summers while going to college. At the end of my 2nd summer, they offered me a full time year around job as a fire truck driver but I turned it down.
 
eelgrass said:
No. I worked for California Division of Forestry (now called Cal Fire) for 2 summers while going to college. At the end of my 2nd summer, they offered me a full time year around job as a fire truck driver but I turned it down.
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No I meant at the sawmill you worked out. I mean you didn’t go out to eat for 40 years so was that to save for retirement??
 
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No I meant at the sawmill you worked out. I mean you didn’t go out to eat for 40 years so was that to save for retirement??
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No pension from the mill. I invested through their 401k plan though. That's why I didn't eat out. Every Sunday my wife would bake a cake or a pie or cookies to take in my lunch the following week. My sweetheart got into such a habit of doing that, that she still does that to this day. This week will be oatmeal cookies.
 
About 22 years ago I added on a 16X16' family room with a vaulted ceiling onto our house. I subbed the foundation and the electrical out and did the rest myself, including the drywall and texturing. I worked my butt off on the drywall and think I saved about $5. Hoss has my undying respect.
 
Hanging sheetrock and muddying the nail/screw heads is easy for someone willing to work. Tapping seems and texturing is easier to hire out. Doing Sheetrock all day is hard work.
Now insulation is something I try to always hire out. Unless it’s a small job hiring out insulation installation is cheaper to hire out.
 
eelgrass said:
No pension from the mill. I invested through their 401k plan though. That's why I didn't eat out. Every Sunday my wife would bake a cake or a pie or cookies to take in my lunch the following week. My sweetheart got into such a habit of doing that, that she still does that to this day. This week will be oatmeal cookies
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That’s pretty sweet. I figured you were old enough to likely be under a pension system. Always enjoy your stories eel.

eelgrass said:
About 22 years ago I added on a 16X16' family room with a vaulted ceiling onto our house. I subbed the foundation and the electrical out and did the rest myself, including the drywall and texturing. I worked my butt off on the drywall and think I saved about $5. Hoss has my undying respect.
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Can’t argue that. Sheetrock is hard work for low pay. We use one of the more expensive contractors in town and he’s at 2.50 a ft hung taped and painted. Seems like a deal every time we use them.
 
hossblur said:
I did ask for yours
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Why are you obsessed with my hobby? Looking for a career change? You're probably thinking that its similar to Utah's outfitter requirements. Which are similar to being a drywaller in UT. You just buy a business license and get after it. No training needed. Same in Alaska? Not even close. But since you asked...

There's an apprenticeship program. Confused? Its a program the skilled trades used to teach the workers while they are earning a wage. After your apprenticeship the next step is an Assistant Guide(AG). Once you get enough hours as an AG you can test to become a registered guide(RG). It is at this level you can start your own business and book hunters etc. Apprentices and AG must work for a RG. The final level is Master Guide. To become a master guide you have to be a RG for "X" amount of time before you can take the test. Once you take the test you can advertise being as such. Besides costing more to renew its doesn't give you any more benefits.


I'm not aware of a state that has a more rigorous program to become a guide than AK. If you know of one I'd like to know. It's always interesting to see what other states are doing.

Also you're interested in joining a skilled trade we may be hiring some apprentices this fall. Can't be afraid of bears or heights. If you're serious send me a PM.
 
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There's an apprenticeship program. Confused? Its a program the skilled trades used to teach the workers while they are earning a wage
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Is that the same thing as being a "packer" for a licensed guide in Alaska?
 
SS! said:
Why are you obsessed with my hobby? Looking for a career change? You're probably thinking that its similar to Utah's outfitter requirements. Which are similar to being a drywaller in UT. You just buy a business license and get after it. No training needed. Same in Alaska? Not even close. But since you asked...

There's an apprenticeship program. Confused? Its a program the skilled trades used to teach the workers while they are earning a wage. After your apprenticeship the next step is an Assistant Guide(AG). Once you get enough hours as an AG you can test to become a registered guide(RG). It is at this level you can start your own business and book hunters etc. Apprentices and AG must work for a RG. The final level is Master Guide. To become a master guide you have to be a RG for "X" amount of time before you can take the test. Once you take the test you can advertise being as such. Besides costing more to renew its doesn't give you any more benefits.


I'm not aware of a state that has a more rigorous program to become a guide than AK. If you know of one I'd like to know. It's always interesting to see what other states are doing.

Also you're interested in joining a skilled trade we may be hiring some apprentices this fall. Can't be afraid of bears or heights. If you're serious send me a PM.
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A few years ago I looked into being a guide in Alaska to get around the rules of a NR having to be with a guide to hunt sheep/ Mtn Goat/etc. A lot of requirements to make it work.
Really can not make do it happen with a full time job and family unless you live in Alaska.
 
This whole thing unraveled quickly… I will say I do find it funny that the boomers like to talk chit, it’s not like America just finished one of its longest standing wars, which in large part was fought by millennials and some gen-X, oh and who started it? Stupid boomers, but yeah we are all Avacado eating soy boys ;) didn’t see many boomers down range, just saying
 
SS! said:
Why are you obsessed with my hobby? Looking for a career change? You're probably thinking that its similar to Utah's outfitter requirements. Which are similar to being a drywaller in UT. You just buy a business license and get after it. No training needed. Same in Alaska? Not even close. But since you asked...

There's an apprenticeship program. Confused? Its a program the skilled trades used to teach the workers while they are earning a wage. After your apprenticeship the next step is an Assistant Guide(AG). Once you get enough hours as an AG you can test to become a registered guide(RG). It is at this level you can start your own business and book hunters etc. Apprentices and AG must work for a RG. The final level is Master Guide. To become a master guide you have to be a RG for "X" amount of time before you can take the test. Once you take the test you can advertise being as such. Besides costing more to renew its doesn't give you any more benefits.


I'm not aware of a state that has a more rigorous program to become a guide than AK. If you know of one I'd like to know. It's always interesting to see what other states are doing.

Also you're interested in joining a skilled trade we may be hiring some apprentices this fall. Can't be afraid of bears or heights. If you're serious send me a PM.
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I'm not obsessed.

But when someone has such all knowing opinions, such as yourself, then it seems only fair, that we know where such opinions come from.

Your ", knowledge" on this subject is simply opinion.

What I did was let you take enough "dumbass drywaller cracks", so that you couldn't claim you didn't, then, pointed out, or rather Lumpy did, that this "dumbass" actually had a degree, unlike you, so I could speak on both sides.

I just let you dig your own hole, and now I'm watching you try to spin out.

It's ok little fella. You tried hard. Like you do in so many subjects where everyone reading your responses, can easily spot your lack of any knowledge.

So you apprenticed with a journeyman, and aren't afraid of heights. So did, and so are the "jalapenos" you think you're better than.
 
hossblur said:
I'm not obsessed.

But when someone has such all knowing opinions, such as yourself, then it seems only fair, that we know where such opinions come from.

Your ", knowledge" on this subject is simply opinion.

What I did was let you take enough "dumbass drywaller cracks", so that you couldn't claim you didn't, then, pointed out, or rather Lumpy did, that this "dumbass" actually had a degree, unlike you, so I could speak on both sides.

I just let you dig your own hole, and now I'm watching you try to spin out.

It's ok little fella. You tried hard. Like you do in so many subjects where everyone reading your responses, can easily spot your lack of any knowledge.

So you apprenticed with a journeyman, and aren't afraid of heights. So did, and so are the "jalapenos" you think you're better than.
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Kevin,
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you got me! :eek: You choose to compare my hobby to your career hahaha. You got me good rookie. And sorry my opinions bother you. Yours don't bother me, in fact they are entertaining.

I didn't think you were a dumbass until now. If you have a microbiology degree in your back pocket and you're working for wages well than...well...you know what I think of you.

I don't think I'm better than anyone except ever person in Utah. But to be fair I think everyone that lives outside that state is better off. Of course just related to hunting. Outside hunting Utah is a beautiful state.

No holes dug here, and if one is needed I'll be sure to call you or jose and the jalapenos.
 
LIK2HNT said:
A few years ago I looked into being a guide in Alaska to get around the rules of a NR having to be with a guide to hunt sheep/ Mtn Goat/etc. A lot of requirements to make it work.
Really can not make do it happen with a full time job and family unless you live in Alaska.
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Its difficult for sure. But its about protecting the resource for one. Whats interesting is once you become a guide even if you live out the state you would have to still go guided unless maybe you are a RG or MG. I would have to look in to it to be sure.
 
SS! said:
Kevin,
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you got me! :eek: You choose to compare my hobby to your career hahaha. You got me good rookie. And sorry my opinions bother you. Yours don't bother me, in fact they are entertaining.

I didn't think you were a dumbass until now. If you have a microbiology degree in your back pocket and you're working for wages well than...well...you know what I think of you.

I don't think I'm better than anyone except ever person in Utah. But to be fair I think everyone that lives outside that state is better off. Of course just related to hunting. Outside hunting Utah is a beautiful state.

No holes dug here, and if one is needed I'll be sure to call you or jose and the jalapenos.
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Oh sweetie. You have a tell, just like most chitty poker players. Guys that get to you, you then expose it.

No worries, I'll let you keep doing for awhile, then I'll point that out.

Btw, you gotta think just a sec.

Who said I work for "wages"? Like you said, I have the degree(that you don't). Why on earth would I not use it? Rub your little head real hard, it might come to you.

Keep going, I'll let you stalk me around for awhile longer, then I show you your tell.

You should go back to being loud and crass, it was funny. It disguised how sad and lame you really are.
 

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