$65 Million Dollar Partnership With MDF

Partnering allows for leveraging funding and resources. There is ample grant funding opportunities out there right now. ✅️ ?

The more active management we are doing on the ground, the better.

The biggest problem with working on federal lands is not working with the federal government, it's getting through the NEPA process. The current administration made it so "cumulative impacts" have to be analyzed...which can add years to the NEPA process and opens more doors for potential litigation. If they can partner and do the work as categorical exclusions, that would be ideal.
 
Great news for mule deer! Definitely a win-win for on the ground habitat improvement projects that will potentially improve struggling mule deer herds across the Western US!

Several counties in our area joined collaborative effort and actually picked up a sizeable grant from the RMEF to improve elk habitat in areas with catastrophic wildfires.

Sources are certainly available to fund large projects that benefit wildlife in your particular area.

Great job MDF and MDF supporters!
 
Great news for mule deer! Definitely a win-win for on the ground habitat improvement projects that will potentially improve struggling mule deer herds across the Western US!

Several counties in our area joined collaborative effort and actually picked up a sizeable grant from the RMEF to improve elk habitat in areas with catastrophic wildfires.

Sources are certainly available to fund large projects that benefit wildlife in your particular area.

Great job MDF and MDF supporters!


Read between the lines with elk habitat and wildfire… seems like a great deal for ELK not so much for the mulies.
 
A lot depends on the location and what native and invasive species are present before and after wildfires. Some areas may actually benefit from wildfires but some may have severe problems post fire.
 
A lot depends on the location and what native and invasive species are present before and after wildfires. Some areas may actually benefit from wildfires but some may have severe problems post fire.

We talking elk or deer?
 
Now the RMEF is in the timber contract and NEPA world? What about prescribed and manage fire? You say some wild things.
Meh every organization has issues. What’s wrong with logging? Do you use your hand to wipe your butt? Lesser of two evils…
 
Nothing wrong with logging its necessary. All these organizations have never increased mule deer populations so what's the big deal? Makes people feel good I guess
 
Meh every organization has issues. What’s wrong with logging? Do you use your hand to wipe your butt? Lesser of two evils…
No, logging is great. Setting up the sales on public land has to be done by the Feds. Putting the money in the land managers hands is the best bet.
 
It would be great if the majority of funding goes directly to on the ground mule deer projects where it will make the most difference rather than disappearing in cracks.
 
It would be great if the majority of funding goes directly to on the ground mule deer projects where it will make the most difference rather than disappearing in cracks.
Everything is audited and public, there are no "cracks" which is exactly why these two government entities chose MDF to help fund projects in coordination with them.
 
Hey SS?

You Ever Watch The Wildlife Board Meetings/Voting?

BC With the RMEF Is Nothing More Than a YES Man!

Everything that I've Ever Seen Voted On or Recommended,BC Takes The Podium & Says:

The RMEF Agree's & Goes Along With All Recommendations!

HINT:

Not Everything Proposed & Recommended were The Right Things To Do!

A True YES MAN!
 
Hey SS?

You Ever Watch The Wildlife Board Meetings/Voting?

BC With the RMEF Is Nothing More Than a YES Man!

Everything that I've Ever Seen Voted On or Recommended,BC Takes The Podium & Says:

The RMEF Agree's & Goes Along With All Recommendations!

HINT:

Not Everything Proposed & Recommended were The Right Things To Do!

A True YES MAN!

Hell you bite hard ELK..
 
@slamdunk

What does this mean?

The overpasses are a great idea.

65 million builds a lot of overpasses. Is this something the money could be put towards?
 
@slamdunk

What does this mean?

The overpasses are a great idea.

65 million builds a lot of overpasses. Is this something the money could be put towards?
As far as my other thread goes on the over/underpasses. The $20 million passed out of both committees it needed to, and was priority item 6 (so high priority). It needs to be funded by the legislature now, and signed by the Governor. Then there’s strong likelihood $60 million more will be funded via the Infrastructure bill and Utah will hopefully have $80 million in pocket for under passes, overpasses, fencing etc. gosh stuff is a long, complicated process.
 
@slamdunk

What does this mean?

The overpasses are a great idea.

65 million builds a lot of overpasses. Is this something the money could be put towards?
Numerous projects over the next five years from habitat improvements, fences, fence removal, burns, guzzlers.

I hope there will be over passes, but I haven't seen an official project list but I will be looking for one to relay publicly.

This is a huge win for MDF and conservation.

It also says a lot for our organization since it's only us they chose to work with.
 
Not trying to badger @SS!, but if you're making a statement that RMEF would have been a better fit for the money, explain why?
Simple. Look at the success in elk hunting opportunities. They continue to increase. They brought back elk to the eastern US increasing hunting opportunities. And they did this all with the reintroduction of the big bad wolf that scares all of you.

The MDF can’t even MAINTAIN mule deer populations. Has mule deer tag populations increased since the MDF started? No. Have they expanded mule deer hunting? Nope.

So while it sounds good that MDF is doing so much “conservation” it’s clearly not working. FFS they can’t even stabilize mule deer populations. It got so bad that another organization started because of how terrible MDF was allocating funds for projects. The Muley Fanatic Foundation basically kicked the worthless MDF out of WY.

I used this platform to get the MDF to stop auctioning off canned hunts for “conservation”. Maybe you remember that? Yep that was me. It was a different time then and I doubt this forum has the reach it once did. So while you @slamdunk assumes my knowledge of MDF you really don’t have a fricking clue.

So keep posting dollars amounts of how much was raised. It’s quite obvious dollars do not equal mule deer.
 
@slamdunk glad to see you put your big boy pants on and decided to unblock me. You just couldn’t live up to your word. I’m sure I offended you again so better tell mommy. I was warned you have sensitive feelings and I’m walking the line responding to you ?
 
Has mule deer hunting in Utah and the west improved since MDF & SFW got a foot hold? Slam dunk is spot on. We continue to give more and more money to organizations like MDF & SFW yet our deer herds continue to shrink. We are selling our resources aka 200 tags in the name of conservation yet mule deer herds continue to shrink across the west. This has been going on since the inception of MDF & SFW yet we as sportsman continue to allow it. I'm aware that MDF & SFW are conducting conservation projects. I've seen them, yet they are not yielding results. I remember a time when SFW & MDF really pushed for memberships to fund their organizations. That is until the banquet's, and public tags started paying the way.
 
Has mule deer hunting in Utah and the west improved since MDF & SFW got a foot hold? Slam dunk is spot on. We continue to give more and more money to organizations like MDF & SFW yet our deer herds continue to shrink. We are selling our resources aka 200 tags in the name of conservation yet mule deer herds continue to shrink across the west. This has been going on since the inception of MDF & SFW yet we as sportsman continue to allow it. I'm aware that MDF & SFW are conducting conservation projects. I've seen them, yet they are not yielding results. I remember a time when SFW & MDF really pushed for memberships to fund their organizations. That is until the banquet's, and public tags started paying the way.


*500+ tags
 
I sure hope not one red cent will be used for "administrative costs".
However, I'm sure all those on the payroll of these organizations are licking their chops.
 
Have you been out and seen the great work some of the Feds are doing?
No, my comment was a bit more of a generality. In my line of work, federal money can, and usually does, come with a lot of strings attached he'd. Sometimes negatively, other times, just sort of annoyingly. That's all...

I've killed many animals on federal land, so I am very appreciative and hope to continue with that blessing...
 
There's a major difference between habitat management with improvement projects and the actual management of hunters and wildlife.

As a prime example, the CPW has totally screwed mule deer here in Colorado with their poor deer management scheme of increasing tag numbers with rut rifle season dates.

Obviously it helps to have both for healthy deer and deer numbers.
 
There's a major difference between habitat management with improvement projects and the actual management of hunters and wildlife.

As a prime example, the CPW has totally screwed mule deer here in Colorado with their poor deer management scheme of increasing tag numbers with rut rifle season dates.

Obviously it helps to have both for healthy deer and deer numbers.
If over harvesting deer during November has decimated those herds, there must also be excessive doe permits as well.
 
BLM just gave MDF an additional $3.5m today
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You are absolutely correct that too many doe tags impacts deer numbers. Having a stable, healthy doe population is pretty crucial.
 
You are absolutely correct that too many doe tags impacts deer numbers. Having a stable, healthy doe population is pretty crucial.
100%
Have they been killing large numbers of does?

I used to guide hunters on the 71/711 PLO lands and there used to be very high numbers of does in all that late season agricultural stuff.
 
I think overpasses and underpasses and everything can help. I say we keep doing as much as we can. However, I think the game changer with deer is mother nature. I would say knock the elk herds down in my state to about 30% of what they are, but then there wouldn't be enough elk tags, and people would then be after the mule deer tags?. It's a tough situation.
 
I think overpasses and underpasses and everything can help. I say we keep doing as much as we can. However, I think the game changer with deer is mother nature. I would say knock the elk herds down in my state to about 30% of what they are, but then there wouldn't be enough elk tags, and people would then be after the mule deer tags?. It's a tough situation.
If we continue a couple more years of wetter than normal years in both winter and summer, we'll see a solid uptick across the western deer states.
Getting winter range habitat healthy again would be an absolute game changer.
 
I’m a skeptic, but after seeing how the government spends money in construction projects and how many billions we have sent to the first son’s favorite country while our own boarder and Mauai are a mess, it’s hard to be too excited about this. Feels like more government sponsored money laundering.
 
I’m a skeptic, but after seeing how the government spends money in construction projects and how many billions we have sent to the first son’s favorite country while our own boarder and Mauai are a mess, it’s hard to be too excited about this. Feels like more government sponsored money laundering.
refer to post #44
 
It is good to see the Feds obligate some money to wildlife again. This, on top of the 350 million dollars obligated to wildlife crossings. It is nothing to find a deer or two dead on the highway each morning in my unit were only a few hundred tags are offered each year. I would bet that cars kill more deer than hunters in many regions, and I am finally seeing fences and crossings given serious consideration. It is long overdue.
 
Partnering allows for leveraging funding and resources. There is ample grant funding opportunities out there right now. ✅️ ?

The more active management we are doing on the ground, the better.

The biggest problem with working on federal lands is not working with the federal government, it's getting through the NEPA process. The current administration made it so "cumulative impacts" have to be analyzed...which can add years to the NEPA process and opens more doors for potential litigation. If they can partner and do the work as categorical exclusions, that would be ideal.
Too bad the Vaccine they shoved up everyones A** does not have its own NEPA so we could find out the "cumulative impacts" it will have in the future. Two or Three things that are VERY HARD to believe in right now is (The Government) (The Mule Deer Foundation) and (BS HEADLINES) like this one e.g. ($65 Million Dollar Partnership Blah - Blah - Blah) #whatever
 
Have you been out and seen the great work some of the Feds are doing?
Ya~ Check out the work they did in Provo a week or two on a 75 year old man- They are killiing it! Literally......
- Feds $65 Million Partnership with MDF
- BLM just gave MDF $3.5m
Hot Dammmmmm-> Looks like the MDF is the Ukraine of NGOs. Cant wait to see enormous herds of Mule Deer. It's gonna be great! Stay tunes for the MDF 70th Anniversary Film!
 

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