License fee increase for nonresidents introduced in House

Yep, keep spinning your wheels and twisting words like you always do Buzz!

Yep, you are absolutely correct about nonres and in particular nonres outfitter hunters bringing more revenue to the WG&F and supporting small town business!

Now we are getting somewhere! Buzz, glad we now agree on 2 things!

1) Nonres increase revenue to the WG&F and small town communities.

2) Guide in wilderness is bogus!


From your previous comments years ago in regard to New Mexico, deep...down it's obvious you also agree that outfitter set asides are bogus.
 
Yep, keep spinning your wheels and twisting words like you always do Buzz!

Yep, you are absolutely correct about nonres and in particular nonres outfitter hunters bringing more revenue to the WG&F and supporting small town business!

Now we are getting somewhere! Buzz, glad we now agree on 2 things!

1) Nonres increase revenue to the WG&F and small town communities.

2) Guide in wilderness is bogus!


From your previous comments years ago in regard to New Mexico, deep...down it's obvious you also agree that outfitter set asides are bogus.
Well, now, see that's where you're wrong.

Those smiling faces and local economies that an outfitter set aside would provide is perfect.

I have come around to your way of thinking, that supporting small, local businesses like Wyoming outfitters with a set aside, makes sense.

All of your carnival barking has changed my way of thinking, we must provide smiling faces and provide for small business here in Wyoming. Set asides fill that bill, and 5% of the tags sounds reasonable.

I also believe that 90% of the tags should go to WY Residents as that is, in fact, the "industry standard" amongst other surrounding states.

This truly is what everyone seems to want and the perfect compromise....how can it not be, it checks all the boxes?

Resident 90%, outfitters get their cut, 5%, and DIY get 5%...really what is there to argue about?

We all get something, we all give up something, its how compromise works.

On top of that it allows NR hunters to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, work harder, be more productive so they can afford a guided hunt with better draw odds. 'Merica.

This thing is straight away a win.

Thank you jims! You've truly done God's work here.
 
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On top of that it allows NR hunters to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, work harder, be more productive so they can afford a guided hunt with better draw odds.
I work way harder to do a DIY hunt then a guided hunt, no doubt about that and it is way more rewarding and you are way more involved in the planning. Outfitter set asides are a joke and 99.9% of the people here know it. Take your 90/10, but don't stoop down to do it.
 
I work way harder to do a DIY hunt then a guided hunt, no doubt about that and it is way more rewarding and you are way more involved in the planning. Outfitter set asides are a joke and 99.9% of the people here know it. Take your 90/10, but don't stoop down to do it.
Well, I know but I just can't get past jims arguments that we must use our wildlife assets to prop up local, small businesses here in Wyoming. Outfitters/guides ARE those small local businesses that jims says are so vital to Wyoming's boom and bust economy.

His arguments are very convincing. Anything we can do to help them should be on the table, and we also have an obligation to take care of our Residents. Its going to cost something to help support the outfitting industry here, has to be something in it for Wyoming Residents...90% sounds right fair for giving outfitters 5%.

I think you're just going to have focus all that hard work at your paying gig, over-time, side hustle, to hire an outfitter...'Merica, bootstraps, and all that.

Or I suppose you can splash around with the other DIY hunters in the other 5%.

Its about choices and sacrifice.
 
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Glad we agree on a few things Buzz!

Buzz, now lets look at what happens to tag quotas with 90/5/5.

How many nonres limited elk units currently only offer 1 tag in the special and only 1 tag in the regular nonres draw? How many nonres elk limited units only offer 2 nonres tags in the special and only 2 regular tags?

Count them Buzz....and let us all know?
 
Glad we agree on a few things Buzz!

Buzz, now lets look at what happens to tag quotas with 90/5/5.

How many nonres limited elk units currently only offer 1 tag in the special and only 1 tag in the regular nonres draw? How many nonres elk limited units only offer 2 nonres tags in the special and only 2 regular tags?

Count them Buzz....and let us all know?
90-5-5 works for everyone, you win Santos. I'm lazer focused on helping our local, small outfitting industry.

Have a good one.
 
Puzz is on the govt. (our) payroll...he can do this internet sh_t all day! Let's see, every 2 weeks he has to post all of his dead animal pics....we're on day 13 right now..............
 
He's like the little mouthy drunk in the bar that AFTER his buddies hold him back, keeps threatening to beat you up.


Buzz, no one is stopping you. You obviously have Sy phone number, why isn't 90-5-5 done? You keep threatening.

To quote Josey Wales

You gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie"?
 
Puzz is on the govt. (our) payroll...he can do this internet sh_t all day! Let's see, every 2 weeks he has to post all of his dead animal pics....we're on day 13 right now..............
You mean like these from the 2022 season?

Wyoming random moose tag, my second bull from WY:

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Whitetail buck:

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Bull elk:

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Couple cow elk to help with the over-objective problem:

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Of course I had to help my 2 NR nephews with WY bulls:

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Its about choices and sasacrifice.
That's not the point and you know darn well. DIY is more rewarding and harder and those are the people you want passing this heritage of ours down to the next generation, not thos with big pockets who do nothing but pull the trigger.
 
Here in Colorado there is a lot of noise going on in regard to changes that benefit residents. Even as a Colo resident it’s pretty easy for me to realize that slight changes that may benefit me and a few residents will impact each and every nonres.

Maybe I would draw 1 or 2 additional limited tags in my lifetime but is it really worth it? I guess I’m super thankful and content with the amazing opportunities I’ve had as a Colo resident. I am more than willing to sacrifice drawing a couple additional tags in my lifetime so that nonres have the opportunity of maybe 1 or 2 hunts in their lifetimes.

It’s pretty darn clear that there are currently lots of opportunities to hunt big game in both Colo and Wyo for residents that are fortunate to live there.

Growing up as a kid I learned that sharing is a pretty powerful thing! It’s everything but an entitlement thing to me, it’s good ole being willing to share a piece of the wealth with others!
 
That's not the point and you know darn well. DIY is more rewarding and harder and those are the people you want passing this heritage of ours down to the next generation, not thos with big pockets who do nothing but pull the trigger.
Correct and 5% of the tags still allow that to continue, as well as resident opportunity in the state you live in.
 
Trying to get back to thread topic here, does anyone know when the senate will vote on this now that it has passed the house??
 
Thanks for your bi-monthly posting of the pics, Buzzed.

Another task for you: how much time today did you actually work at your govt. job vs your time perusing the 20+ forums? My guess is that if you're on an 8 hr day, you've probably worked 1 hr and left the 7 hr for us taxpayers to pad your pocket

PS: does your supervisor know of your internet play time?
 
How have Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Arizona, and Utah survived with 90/10?
Have you ever hunted in Utah? Not sure I’d use Utah as an example of how wonderful 90/10 is. Or Nevada, and maybe not Idaho.

In Utah we shell out lots of private land tags, expo tags, auction tags and far more tags in general than we should. Ahhhh, the beauty of 90/10. You guys can be like us!!! :ROFLMAO:

Buzz’s outfitter set asides are a good first step.

Nothing better than screwing up a good thing. :rolleyes:
 
I don't mind paying more if I believe the money is being used to help the animals and habit they use. The price increase would just benefit me by allowing me to draw more tags but I don't like to see guys priced out of hunting.

Who thinks hunting becoming a rich mans sport is a good thing? Only old men with plenty of money that don't care about the younger generation think pricing regular guys out of hunting is a good thing. Guys that can buy quality tags in states like Utah and New Mexico don't seem to mind it.

I don't blame resident that want 90% of the tags. I would hope that residents would consider how little it will benefit them individually and hurt the nonresidents who have invested significant years and $$ in building points in Wyoming just to have the rug pulled out from under them. Giving guaranteed tags to outfitters is just a form of government welfare. I can't help you if you can't comprehend how it is a form of government welfare.
 
It’s called National Forest for a reason. BLM again is Federal land. Maybe WYO citizen hunters should only be permitted to hunt state owned or private land. They did nothing to put game animals in their state. The WYO greed and avarice for big game should be paid back in kind.
 
It’s called National Forest for a reason. BLM again is Federal land. Maybe WYO citizen hunters should only be permitted to hunt state owned or private land. They did nothing to put game animals in their state. The WYO greed and avarice for big game should be paid back in kind.
But not Idaho, California, Montana, Oregon, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, or Utah? Just Wyoming?

There are those who believe the only Federal land should be where Washington DC is located.

I guess we can put you in the camp that everyone should be able to apply for any state with no NR caps.
 
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But not Idaho, California, Montana, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, or Utah? Just Wyoming?

There are those who believe the only Federal land should be where Washington DC is located.
Who are “those”? The same that what 5% for non residents. If it wasn’t for National Forests you wouldn’t be hunting at all. Not well thought out.
 
Who are “those”? The same that what 5% for non residents. If it wasn’t for National Forests you wouldn’t be hunting at all. Not well thought out.
"Those" people are people who read the US Constitution and take it literally. I am not in that camp, but they exist.

What 5% are you talking about?

I hunted Colorado a bit. In Wyoming you can hunt state land. Leased Colorado state land you can't, which is most of Colorado state land. Where are you guys hunting in Gunnison? Sure the heck isn't state land.
 
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It’s called National Forest for a reason. BLM again is Federal land. Maybe WYO citizen hunters should only be permitted to hunt state owned or private land. They did nothing to put game animals in their state. The WYO greed and avarice for big game should be paid back in kind.
WY citizens are still US citizens so, no. Just agree that the reciprocity of that feeling is compromised. NOT arguing over who owns/holds the animals, but using a Federal lands designation to create boundaries in which citizens can go where on public land while pursuing big game is plain wrong. Most everyone on these forums agrees, it’s the least contentious opinion between NR and even many R. Just doesn’t negatively affect R much so they don’t go die on that hill.
 
Trying to get back to thread topic here, does anyone know when the senate will vote on this now that it has passed the house??

passed 2nd reading Friday, one more to go

Hicks is doing a good job of selling the special E/D/A fees; the 40% that choose to pay more are subsidizing the 60% lower cost licenses and keeping them at the btm of the price scale.
As for the big 5, he's pretty blunt, "they're just too cheap".
 
passed 2nd reading Friday, one more to go

Hicks is doing a good job of selling the special E/D/A fees; the 40% that choose to pay more are subsidizing the 60% lower cost licenses and keeping them at the btm of the price scale.
As for the big 5, he's pretty blunt, "they're just too cheap".
Thanks Bob. Please keep us posted.
 
The write up could be more clear on special vs regular, and those ....aren't those numbers the correct ones for the "on top of regular tag price" when you apply special? Elk $692 + the new $1258 = $1950. Antelope $326 + $874 = $1200 and Deer $374 + 826 = $1200.

Have a feeling my plans on getting the NR antelope special I was planning on this year may be hampered by increased special applicants....also worried about my special elk put in for....that one will sting if I don't draw.
 
The write up could be more clear on special vs regular, and those ....aren't those numbers the correct ones for the "on top of regular tag price" when you apply special? Elk $692 + the new $1258 = $1950. Antelope $326 + $874 = $1200 and Deer $374 + 826 = $1200.

Have a feeling my plans on getting the NR antelope special I was planning on this year may be hampered by increased special applicants....also worried about my special elk put in for....that one will sting if I don't draw.
The way this winter is panning out there might not be any antelope where I want to take my son this year.
Do you really think they will swarm the special draw? I was thinking just the opposite. ?
 
He might mean just this year- a rush before the big increase?
In my case, I have 9 elk pts, and applied for a unit that took 8 in special last year (couple more in regular), so in planning process last year, thought I was sitting pretty good. If a couple people with 10ish were thinking of hunting in next year or 2 (maybe going regular) chose to go this year instead, my odds drop—-I’m out. I’m in a similar spot for antelope I was planning for with 7 points. I teach, and have been teaching overload for the last 4 years (banking the overload—not getting paid), so I could apply to get a semester off (had to be decided last year). I choose fall ‘23—now I can’t change that designation. So I planned on Wy elk hunt a Wy antelope hunt for wife and I and a Co 4th season hunt for my wife. This harsh winter, and all the changes being discussed or happening in Wy, has me worried the fall I’ve been planning for may turn out to be a bit different than I had hoped. However it pans out - my wife and I will be chasing critters somewhere, and enjoying a practice “retirement” 10 years early :)

I think LIK2 is right in that for future years, special draw point creep may slow down (I think that’s what he was alluding to)
 
Honestly- I don't think the increased fees will do much for higher demand units. Maybe general elk, and mid-tier deer and antelope- but even then, I believe it won't be significant. Guess we'll find out...
 
Honestly- I don't think the increased fees will do much for higher demand units. Maybe general elk, and mid-tier deer and antelope- but even then, I believe it won't be significant. Guess we'll find out...
I think you will be right. Any increase it gains in the first 2 years will be erased as people will pay for the perceived better odds
 
Nonres d/e/a draw odds tend to randomly sway back and forth with current regular vs special prices except in the toughest to draw units and species. I'm sure the same will hold true once nonres are stabbed in the back with the new special tag prices.

My guess is that draw odds in the highest demand units may not matter as much as units that aren't quite as popular due to private land or poorer quality animals after the special price increase.

I can pretty much guarantee that nonres will drop out of the pref pt game like flies if 90/10 or 90/5/5 ever happens! It just won't be worth paying high pref pt plus high license fees if 1/2 or 3/4 of nonres tags are cut and it takes 2x to 3x more years to draw tags.
 
I can pretty much guarantee that nonres will drop out of the pref pt game like flies if 90/10 or 90/5/5 ever happens! It just won't be worth paying high pref pt plus high license fees if 1/2 or 3/4 of nonres tags are cut and it takes 2x to 3x more years to draw tags.

If this is true? Then it might even out the odds? And not really change that much?
 
I believe I might begin losing significant interest before too much more of this and certainly after 1 more WY hunt for each of D/E/A to use up my points. After that, and hopefully with a few more tags to use up my CO points, then maybe something in one of MT, UT, NM, ID, AZ combined, my western hunting career will be about up. I suspect I might even be happier once I break from this cycle of applications, low odds, high expenses, diminishing quality. Too much thinking about killing an animal and too little focus on other pursuits. Whether I like it or not, that’s the way things are going so allowing my hunting soul to start dying soon is as good a self defense mechanism as any.
 
I suspect I might even be happier once I break from this cycle of applications, low odds, high expenses, diminishing quality.

I think too many folks struggle with the current realities of big game hunting in the west. The demand simply outpaces supply. Quite a few hunters struggle with those realities and turn it into anger and resentment. That solves nothing of course.

Two reasonable reactions are to accept the frequency/cost and go hunting when opportunities arise -or- find a game more to your liking. Nothing wrong with the latter if that makes you happy.
 
Too many have unrealistic expectations.

I leave tons of opportunity on the table every year, so does every single NR hunter in the U.S.

The problem is, hunters are poor planners, can't do things by themselves, and need their hand held.

Its flat impossible for me to take advantage of all the hunting opportunities that exist in the West, yet year after year all I hear is NR whining, complaining, etc. that they can't draw "their" tag in "their" preferred area in Wyoming.

Get over it, do some research, and go hunting. If WY NR hunters spent a fraction of their time looking into opportunities, they wouldn't have time to complain on MM.

Sitting on the porch is a choice and has consequences.

Which reminds me, time to purchase my OTC NR Montana deer combo tag. Trying to decide if I should break my own self imposed boycott of hunting elk there by adding an elk tag for $200.
 
I really feel sad for those DIY/OYO hunters across the US that don’t live in a state with big game species such as elk, antelope, and mule deer. It’s obvious that that hunting heritage and opportunity is slowly but surely dying.

I also feel sorry for someone that brags about the opportunity he has to hunt 2 states each and every year. 6 to 10 tags/year isn’t enough and is all in favor of stripping even more opportunity from others just because they don’t reside in his state. Pretty sad!
 
I really feel sad for those DIY/OYO hunters across the US that don’t live in a state with big game species such as elk, antelope, and mule deer. It’s obvious that that hunting heritage and opportunity is slowly but surely dying.

I also feel sorry for someone that brags about the opportunity he has to hunt 2 states each and every year. 6 to 10 tags/year isn’t enough and is all in favor of stripping even more opportunity from others just because they don’t reside in his state. Pretty sad!
You have a warped sense of hunting heritage. People that have lived in states that don't have elk, deer, and pronghorn don't have a heritage of hunting those species. Heritages in hunting revolve around resident opportunities. My family has been hunting elk, deer, and pronghorn for 5 generations in Montana. No different than heritages of those in the Midwest who's families have been hunting whitetails, turkeys, etc. for generations out of family camps.

I will work to preserve Resident heritages every single time over NR's coming West on hunting vacations. If cuts need to be made or opportunities dry up, NR opportunity goes first.

It's most important to maintain opportunity, traditions, and heritage of residents...no two ways about it.

And further, I usually hunt 2-5 states a year and I've had more than 6 tags a year for the past 25 years, probably longer than that.
 
You have a warped sense of hunting heritage. People that have lived in states that don't have elk, deer, and pronghorn don't have a heritage of hunting those species. Heritages in hunting revolve around resident opportunities. My family has been hunting elk, deer, and pronghorn for 5 generations in Montana. No different than heritages of those in the Midwest who's families have been hunting whitetails, turkeys, etc. for generations out of family camps.

I will work to preserve Resident heritages every single time over NR's coming West on hunting vacations. If cuts need to be made or opportunities dry up, NR opportunity goes first.

It's most important to maintain opportunity, traditions, and heritage of residents...no two ways about it.

And further, I usually hunt 2-5 states a year and I've had more than 6 tags a year for the past 25 years, probably longer than that.
Trust fund?
 
Trust fund?
Laffin'.

My family are working class people, pretty tough to raise a family working at a lumber mill, railroad, or creamery AND have a trust fund.

My grandparents never hunted as NR's, my Dad never hunted as NR until after I moved to Wyoming in 2000.

What we have done for multiple generations is hunt out of our family camp for elk and deer in Montana as residents since the 1930's.

That's what needs to be continued, wayyyy before we worry about NR opportunity.
 
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Nonres have been hunting Wyo big game for decades! That hunting heritage is slowly but surely dying. Nonres diy/oyo opportunity will be cut in 1/2 with 90/10 or by 3/4 with 90/5/5.

If it takes 2 or 3 x more years to draw at twice the price for nonres tags the younger nonres generation will slowly but surely loose interest in applying and hunting Wyo.

The fact is that youth that aren’t fortunate to live in a state like Wyo that has elk, antelope, and mule deer may be totally screwed. That hunting heritage will be lost forever!

How many tags have you had in Wyoming plus Montana the past 10 years Buzz? Would you be willing to sacrifice maybe 1 of those tags to give a nonres youth 1 chance to hunt Wyo?
 
Nonres have been hunting Wyo big game for decades! That hunting heritage is slowly but surely dying. Nonres diy/oyo opportunity will be cut in 1/2 with 90/10 or by 3/4 with 90/5/5.

If it takes 2 or 3 x more years to draw at twice the price for nonres tags the younger nonres generation will slowly but surely loose interest in applying and hunting Wyo.

The fact is that youth that aren’t fortunate to live in a state like Wyo that has elk, antelope, and mule deer may be totally screwed. That hunting heritage will be lost forever!

How many tags have you had in Wyoming plus Montana the past 10 years Buzz? Would you be willing to sacrifice maybe 1 of those tags to give a nonres youth 1 chance to hunt Wyo?
Youth that live in other states can continue their hunting heritage in states they are residents in.

Residents in every state need to expand their own opportunities rather than rely on other states to do it for them.

No, I'm not willing to give up one of my Resident tags in Wyoming to a NR, we give up enough tags to NR hunters already.

Find another shoulder to cry on and do something to get Resident youth tags in their state of residence.

Finally Sebastian, if you're so worried about NR youth hunters in Wyoming, how about sacrifice your Wyoming tags to NR youth?

You're too busy looking to scam the point system to take away NR youth opportunity to be bothered with any of that.

Hypocrisy at it's pinnacle.
 
I really feel sad for those DIY/OYO hunters across the US that don’t live in a state with big game species such as elk, antelope, and mule deer. It’s obvious that that hunting heritage and opportunity is slowly but surely dying.
People that live in States without Elk, Antelope and Mule Deer probably live in States with robust whitetail herds and don't need to worry about drawing a tag and get forced into short 7 day seasons. They probably have seasons that can last for months!

Folks in Colorado need to focus on our Resident opportunity, because ours is a joke compared to all the other western states!
 
Glad you mention Colorado. Colo is currently the most nonres friendly state in the West! Im actually proud to live in a state like Colo that offers nonres (especially nonres young hunters) opportunity to hunt elk, deer, and antelope on public land that is open to everyone across the US!

I could really care less if I don’t draw 1 or maybe 2 additional limited tags in my lifetime so that 1 or 2 nonres have a few additional tags available.

I am also thankful and grateful that Wyo currently offers nonres decent opportunity to draw limited tags to hunt diy/oyo elk, deer, and antelope on the millions of acres of public land! There’s not much blm or forest service land in the Midwest, east, or south.

No question about it, Colo and Wyo are the last 2 states in the entire country that offers nonres decent diy/oyo hunting opportunity to hunt elk, deer, and antelope on public land. That opportunity and tradition is slowly but surely being lost across the West.
 
The tradition is not “being lost”. If anything it is being experienced by more people then ever before. It is all those additional people that are making it harder for NR guys to get the tags they were used to getting. So now, people like you, whine about the residents of those states opportunities. So the residents of Wyoming should give up some of our opportunities because more nonresidents want to hunt here but might have to wait their turn? What a joke. We will keep the tradition going with our kids just fine. Your just mad because it is not what “traditions” you feel so entitled to.
 
Yep, I agree 100%! The Wyo resident hunting heritage is amazing and super strong with status quo!

As Buzz has shown with his 20 picture posts, there is plenty of opportunity for Wyo residents with quotas left exactly how they are! No whining by me, just explaining status quo works pretty darn well.

If you don't fill your freezer with multiple big game animals each and every year as a Wyo res you are definitely doing something majorly wrong! That tradition lives on for Wyo res!
 
Yep, I agree 100%! The Wyo resident hunting heritage is amazing and super strong with status quo!

As Buzz has shown with his 20 picture posts, there is plenty of opportunity for Wyo residents with quotas left exactly how they are! No whining by me, just explaining status quo works pretty darn well.

If you don't fill your freezer with multiple big game animals each and every year as a Wyo res you are definitely doing something majorly wrong! That tradition lives on for Wyo res!
Be even better with 90-10...all those smiling faces on our Resident youth with another 10% of the LQ tags. Would also mean another 10% of Resident Heritage being passed on.

I like it!
 
The Economy/inflation will have more of an impact on draw odds for nonresidents in Wyoming than the fee increase. I doubt it will have any significant effect on elk tags. Only the easy to draw deer and pronghorn tags will have significantly better draw.

BuzzH, they should cut former Montana residents tag benefits. Remember, residents 1st. A guy living living in Wyoming that has former residency in Montana wouldn’t ever have a shortage of hunting opportunities. Residents of NV, AZ, NM and Utah might only average one tag per year in their state and may go 1-2 years without a tag if they don’t archery hunt.
 
The Economy/inflation will have more of an impact on draw odds for nonresidents in Wyoming than the fee increase. I doubt it will have any significant effect on elk tags. Only the easy to draw deer and pronghorn tags will have significantly better draw.

BuzzH, they should cut former Montana residents tag benefits. Remember, residents 1st. A guy living living in Wyoming that has former residency in Montana wouldn’t ever have a shortage of hunting opportunities. Residents of NV, AZ, NM and Utah might only average one tag per year in their state and may go 1-2 years without a tag if they don’t archery hunt.
Actually, you're wrong. Montana should have never started the come home to hunt, and Montana Native NR licenses to start with.

I'm pretty sure I was probably the only NR to testify against the bill.

But, I can't help the Republican Party in Montana that passed the bill and my influence as a NR is pretty sparse.

What I will do is take advantage of that program as long as I can.

I also don't care what other states get for tags in NV, AZ, NM...I live in Wyoming by choice and for a good reason. I don't want to live in a state where I get one tag a year or have to wait 2-3 years between tags.
 
When the average person can no longer afford to hunt all hunting will be lost at the ballet box within a generation.
Exactly! That’s why states all across America have been promoting the recruitment of new hunters for years. They see the future demographics. We are a minority.
 
Although I am all for Wyoming maintaining NR opportunity- the arguments that increased fees are the demise of the sport don't hold water. There are 15 million hunters in the US. Wyoming has about 130,000. Nonresidents are less than half of those, and the fee increases are only to 10% of those licenses. So the impact to hunters across the board is about 0.1%. Hardly destroying hunting in our country...
 
As a non-resident I am glad they raised the fees. Makes it slightly less likely they will reduce NR tags in the future, provides more funding for habitat/law enforcement, and possibly reduces competition slightly for tags. Much better option than outfitter tags.
 
Although I am all for Wyoming maintaining NR opportunity- the arguments that increased fees are the demise of the sport don't hold water. There are 15 million hunters in the US. Wyoming has about 130,000. Nonresidents are less than half of those, and the fee increases are only to 10% of those licenses. So the impact to hunters across the board is about 0.1%. Hardly destroying hunting in our country...
Please check your common sense at the door. Thank You.
 
Actually, you're wrong. Montana should have never started the come home to hunt, and Montana Native NR licenses to start with.

I'm pretty sure I was probably the only NR to testify against the bill.

But, I can't help the Republican Party in Montana that passed the bill and my influence as a NR is pretty sparse.

What I will do is take advantage of that program as long as I can.

I also don't care what other states get for tags in NV, AZ, NM...I live in Wyoming by choice and for a good reason. I don't want to live in a state where I get one tag a year or have to wait 2-3 years between tags.

I just did my montana deer tag. A whooping $846
 
You won't be missed...and the thousand behind you waiting for tags will not either.
There is a lot of money that comes from out of state to support sheep, deer and elk projects/habitat. Hopefully they put a cap on all those funds at 10% to match the tag allocation. Also make sure there is a cap on all Federal dollars that fish and game receive so they are aligned with the non resident tags.
 
Actually, you're wrong. Montana should have never started the come home to hunt, and Montana Native NR licenses to start with.

I'm pretty sure I was probably the only NR to testify against the bill.

But, I can't help the Republican Party in Montana that passed the bill and my influence as a NR is pretty sparse.

What I will do is take advantage of that program as long as I can.

I also don't care what other states get for tags in NV, AZ, NM...I live in Wyoming by choice and for a good reason. I don't want to live in a state where I get one tag a year or have to wait 2-3 years between tags.
Good to know that it was a republican’s fault. Same political party in Wyoming is sticking it to nonresidents. Since we are assigning blame to a political party, can we blame democrats for problems in Chicago, Oregon and California?
 

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