Yup, all the same diameter.Aren't they all the same .308 caliber?
Different cartridges that all do the job.
I’m with you. The old retired O-6 I used to shoot with had a 308 Norma mag and there was no functional difference from my 300 win. Butt there was a cool factor of having a rifle you couldn’t get brass for..300WM
.300PRC
.308 Norma
.300 Norma
.300 Norma improved.
.300 Sherman
They all seem to be pretty close, ballistically speaking.
I've got 5 .300WMs and don't see the need to switch. But....that desire.
Just depends on how cool you want to be. mtmuleyThere is literally zero mathematical difference between each of those CALIBERS! They are all .308.
There are, however, differences between each of those CARTRIDGES.
Perhaps you could explain those differences.There is literally zero mathematical difference between each of those CALIBERS! They are all .308.
There are, however, differences between each of those CARTRIDGES.
0-200 fpsPerhaps you could explain those differences.
Maybe, but, not a 6.5.Five 300 WM's sounds like a fetish (definition: an inanimate object worshiped for its supposed magical powers).
feddoc, you are obviously under some WinMag spell, so I vote you break it...maybe a Creedmoor would do the trick?
Maybe a 300 creedmoor! That could probably kill Zeus himself.Maybe, but, not a 6.5.
Well, for practical purposes, a 300 Creedmoor would be the ballistic twin to a 308 and there’s no flies on a 308!Maybe a 300 creedmoor! That could probably kill Zeus himself.
Considerable difference between the 300 Norma/Norma improved from the 300 winny the Pooh. Don’t get me wrong the 300win is tried and true but it doesn’t have the horsepower of that of some of the big 30s like the Norma or the RUM. The 300win would fall in the class of the 300prc and 30nos ballistically speaking. The PRC is an overall better and more efficient case design compared to the old school belted cartridge design of the ol 300win but animals don’t know the difference what 30 cal magnum hits them….300WM
.300PRC
.308 Norma
.300 Norma
.300 Norma improved.
.300 Sherman
They all seem to be pretty close, ballistically speaking.
I've got 5 .300WMs and don't see the need to switch. But....that desire.
I have one .300 that does nothing except punch prairie dogs with a 130g Speer HP. It is surprisingly accurate.I see the 30 cal magnums as all very similar. Just pick one and go with it. As far as picking the best one, weather you think it’s right or wrong, you’re right.
I think we’re just bored with cartridges now. I’m as guilty as anyone else. I just had to have a 6.5 Creedmoor before I knew any better. I’m not too disappointed, but I stop short of hyping it up or pretending like it’s better than the rest. I leave that up to others. I do see attraction in experimenting with cartridges. As far as the 30 calibers go, why not a 30-338 Lapua Ackley Improved with a 125 grain Sierra match bullet?
Ya but we've established that you're one of those gun-whooores, like me, so no wonder you've tried 'em all and use an H&H.Talk about going backward and loving it........I went from 300 RUM to 300WM to 300 H&H. Man I love the H&H so much more than the others. Must be cool factor because it surely isn't performance. Although 175s at 3k fps isn't a slouch by any means.-----SS
I have a nice varmint load for my .300 that scoots a 125 grain Ballistic Tip 3925 fps. mtmuleyI have one .300 that does nothing except punch prairie dogs with a 130g Speer HP. It is surprisingly accurate.
It was all I had at the time in the early 80s. I was between USN enlistments and going to school to get a couple degrees. Driving heavy equipment as a summer job. Every Sunday after work, I would pick up the Rocky Mountain News, drive to the end of the road and hang that rifle out the window. Nothing fancy for a scope; old Burris (my first) 4X12.Those are some spendy prairie dog shoots! $$$$$
did this actually work?Zeke is spot on. I also base the cartridge around the bullet I want to use. I knew with my newest build that I wanted to push a 245 grain bullet around the 2950 fps mark. I also wanted a short barrel to use a suppressor without getting too long, so that was a tall order. In my research a 300 Norma Improved was the only one that would get me where I wanted to be. If I didn't care about having the short barrel, many of those listed would fit the bill.
Just fire forming brass right now but I'm sitting at 2890 fps fireforming so I don't think I'll have any problem hitting 2950 with formed brass. I'll let you know once I start loading formed brass.did this actually work?
Are you fireforming with the 245? mtmuleyJust fire forming brass right now but I'm sitting at 2890 fps fireforming so I don't think I'll have any problem hitting 2950 with formed brass. I'll let you know once I start loading formed brass.
That’s gunna be a cool gunJust fire forming brass right now but I'm sitting at 2890 fps fireforming so I don't think I'll have any problem hitting 2950 with formed brass. I'll let you know once I start loading formed brass.
We shot a few with the 245 just to see what type of speeds it was getting out of curiosity. Now fireforming with cheap junk bulletsAre you fireforming with the 245? mtmuley
right?....lolAre you fireforming with the 245? mtmuley
Case in point. Opinions and A-holes….You got the order of quality wrong.
Zeke