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You guys literally have no clue how many tickets those guys bought. They have as good of odds as anyone to get a raffle tag.

Yep, a random dude on monster muleys writing a five word post saying it happened is pretty solid evidence that it did in fact happen. I'd definitely consider the case closed.

You never checked your draw results? As mentioned you are very late to the game, as most outfitters book within a day or two of results coming out. I'd still give it a try though and contact Clay Bundy Outfitters and see what he can do. I'd say he is the #1 outfitter there. If no luck try az...

Hunter's middle name is Allen according to the 10 seconds it took me to google search his name. Take that garbage down. I don't know Hunter but I'd be pissed if some moron on a hunting forum was trying to cause me to lose business just because they are incompetent and don't know how to use Google.

Last year results were June 27th

Last year update was 19th and results were the 27th.

Lol, Bob you are an interesting individual. You'd rather play stupid than admit you're wrong. The end result of the above scenario is bow&arrow has zero chance at being able to draw first choice.

Bob! They won't look at your 1st choice but they dam* sure will look at his 2nd choice! Because they will give him a 3c archery tag! We aren't talking about the random pass only. We're talking about the draw in general. He will get 3c archery in the bonus pass AFTER thr computer looks and see...

Bob, you can't be that dense. How TF is the computer going to give someone a tag without having looked at their choices? The computer just pulls choices out of its as$ and gives you a random tag you didn't apply for?

Yes, they should have definitely made hunting even more of a rich man's game.

So you just explained how there IS a scenario where the computer won't look at your 1st choice. Just like we said. If you have enough points to draw your 2nd choice in the bonus pass then the computer never looks at your first choice because you never get to the random pass.

It will go up some since they dropped tag numbers but definitely not that high. Good news is, you'll basically have 3c to yourself for a few weeks chasing bucks. You'll have a good time.

He retired when his hunting and guide licenses were revoked lol. He didn't just ride off into the sunset and turn things over to the kids.

Lol, put the kid in for an archery tag when he's never touched a bow at the age of 17, doesn't own a bow, in a unit you've never hunted or scouted? If you're willing to pay a guide to shoot a 140 buck just call them up and they'll take you to their honey holes. Also, no need to make clear you're...

After seeing that there were 1.8 million random numbers drawn for the nr nelsoni sheep hunts and only like 22-25 available tags for NR it hit me just how terrible your odds are of drawing a tag. But I suppose the odds aren't 0% so there's a snowballs chance in hell you might get lucky? But most...

Any nr pull a pine valley general rifle tag? If so how many points? 6 didn't pull one.

They have it completely blocked now. I still have a window open where you can enter your info but they disabled the continue button to move past that. Now they will redraw to throw everyone a curve ball 😉

Make sure you read what post is being replied to before making dumb responses. He's upset someone "revealed" the backdoor and that they are going to take it away. Who cares if they take it away?

You guys act like getting to know two or three days before they release results anyway is going to make some difference. Gonna jump in your truck and get an extra day scouting in your unit? Who gives a F if they make it where you can't see until actual results are posted? Everyone still gets...

A charge that small is generally something like making sure the card is chargeable. So you could be right. I can't imagine they'd do that for everyone getting a charge but possibly.

Poor guy probably forgot all about that ugly thing and you had to go and bring it back to the top after 13 years. .

Funny how azgfd didn't put how much money was raised or how many applicants there were in that news release. If they had, it would make applicant numbers drop after everyone saw how terrible their odds were of drawing.

The kid will be around the rest of your life. Elk hunting valle vidal in Sep is once in a lifetime. Jk sounds like you've got a good problem to have!

They're up!

The raffle ticket numbers sold don't lie my friend. . There aren't any of your rich pals dropping $100k on one raffle. Don't get a couple thousand dollars mixed up with $100k.

No dog in the fight. I just dont like people that make $hit up. With auction tags the little guy had a 0% chance so things are looking better already.👍

Rich guy buying a 6 million dollar ranch with multiple animals available for the rest of time > Rich guy gambling $100k on one raffle he doesn't even have 50% odds at. Hmm 🤔 and somehow only 1 Rich guy does the gambling instead of all of the Rich guys and the raffle only sells 12,000 tickets...

Exactly. There's a lot of rich guys out there so why are these raffles only selling 12,000 tickets? And if there are any rich hunters that are gonna gamble on a raffle its most likely gonna be some of these az elk/sheep/deer tags. Are only two rich guys trying for these things buying all 12,000...

Lol all those rich millionaires you hang out with dropping $100k on one raffle huh? Don't give me that BS.

No doubt there's rich guys spending a couple thousand dollars and their odds are higher than the average Joe. Guarantee noone is dropping $100k+ on raffle tickets. You have to realize if a guy spends $120,000 to buy tickets that gets him 6000 tickets. Last year's elk sold 12,000 tickets. That...

No rich guy is dropping $100k+ on raffle tickets without the guarantee of a tag. They claim they buy the tags in the name of conservation but you don't see them just donating $100k out of the kindness of their hearts. Let's be real. . They are paying market value for a product and that money...

In today's hunting applications, this right here is the wildest thing to me. Not only do you not have to buy another to apply but don't even have to buy one for your hunt.

Fixed it for you. General hunting public.

I don't think the general hunting public cares so much about a few more animals being killed. They care more so about everyone having an equal chance at tags while still raising money.

Everyone seems to think the end of the auction tag is the end of all of the money for wildlife. The presentation showed that doing all raffle tags instead of 1 raffle and two auction tags will provide more money for all species except elk, deer, and sheep. And the deficit caused by only raffle...

Rich guys aren't gonna flood the raffles because they aren't guaranteed the tag. Even if they do flood the raffle at least other people will have a chance all while making the same amount of money for wildlife. When there are 10,000 raffle tickets sold for a hunt, even if the rich guy buys 1000...

The commission voted to get rid of governors/auction tags today. All special tags will be raffle or some type of competition after 2025. The amount of money lost from auctions vs raffles really isn't that much according to the numbers presented. Gonna be some pissed off rich guys and some pissed...

Wouldn't waste money on a guide for an antelope hunt in any unit, especially unit 1. Haven't heard of a decent sized antelope coming out of unit 1 in several years so just find one and shoot it.