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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    Maybe it doesn't turn into that if he doesn't take his jab at unvaccinated people. I was reading and not going to respond at all, except sorry to hear that. But, then he has to state respect your family and blah blah blah get the vaccine. Blaming his unvaccinated coworker, when for all he knows...
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    No I'm not. I said click on the hyperlink in the article you are referencing. What is so hard to understand about that? But hey, I am over going back and forth. You are grasping at straws, wanted sources, I put them in front of you, and you don't understand. No matter what facts anyone puts in...
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    Again, click on the hyperlink and read the article that explains the 81%. Not coming from CDC. Not coming from liberal media. Not coming from CDC's "scientists". Coming from a peer reviewed article. You know, reviewed by other doctors (you know, the ones who actually see the patients) and...
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    Read the sentence just before the 75% statement... Where it says up to 81% of cases are asymptomatic. So, who is just skimming articles now? I knew that would catch you up and give me a "gotcha moment". But hey, I am the one skimming. I posted 75 to see if you would read the article or skim it...
  5. M

    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    Thats a gorgeous bull!
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    But, since you asked.... Here ya go. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/02/10/us/coronavirus-winter-deaths.html That article is in February, and more than half had come since sleepy joe elected...
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    Im bat $hit crazy, but more than half of the people Ive known that have gotten it have been vaccinated. I did not know anyone who had it until the end of 2020. Now I know dozens, and most of them have been vaccinated people. But, I am bat ish crazy huh? And your comment about sources, I already...
  8. M

    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    Now THAT is a made up stat. You actually believe anything coming from the CDC after the $hit show they've put on?? Look at the world numbers. What is your reason for America having a quarter of the cases worldwide? We are nowhere near a quarter of the population, so how does that work? Why are...
  9. M

    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    Exactly!!!! Laying off nurses around the country but they are overrun! Makes perfect sense to be overrun and lay people off. The people arguing with it won't look into it though. You hit them with facts and they try to still push their narrative.
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    What about all of the Democrat politicians caught disobeying the rules they put in place? Forcing salons to open, jewelry stores, the list goes on and on. Caught with no mask on, having HUGE gatherings with no one wearing masks. But you are obviously blinded by it. I do believe covid is real...
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    A lot of them. It's easy to look up the videos. Their offices just say they were taken out of context, and liberals and fear mongers eat it up. How can "I have to put this on to keep up the political theater act" as putting on mask, be taken out of context? Ignorant people believe those excuses...
  12. M

    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    Geeee I didn't realize everyone started getting vaccinated just a month ago? I thought it was a year ago... But hey, it's just following the trend it has established. Or is it because of the vaccines now?
  13. M

    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    Just like congress NEVER wears their masks, unless the camera is on them? How many of them have been caught on hot mics admitting its all political theater???? Or have you been too blinded to see those?
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    Ya, just like all the articles that they are putting out. Stating "dont do your own research when it comes to vaccines! Trust the government!" Just like Bill Gates said, America believes too much in freedom. But, he has stock in all of the companies that are pushing vaccines..... If you actually...
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    The total number of people who have had it will never be known, since 90+ percent are asymptomatic. So, why are all the numbers going UP when over 2/3 of the country is vaccinated??? Shouldn't it be going drastically down if the vaccine made even the slightest difference??? And no, he is not...
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    Then why are vaccinated people still dying from it???? They are record auditors. The vaccine was supposed to work against the Delta Variant as well, or did you forget what daddy Fauci and the CDC said? Never said they wanted to kill everyone, but they will for control. You can bet your life...
  17. M

    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    EXACTLY!!! They are all exempt from the "rules" they create. How many of them have gotten sick?
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    I have family members who are nurses as well. Maybe your area is bad, but mine isn't. Our hospitalizations have been dropping on government stats as well. So, maybe the hospital overrun stories are horse sh*t too...... Just saying. It can go both ways. I have seen it with my own eyes, and have...
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    I think the biggest problem is all the politicians saying it's the only way to go back to normal. If you dont get it, you're the devil and killing people. But, we see it is vaccinated people getting it and dying too. The vaccine plainly does not work. It is being pushed to line their pockets...
  20. M

    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    EXACTLY!
  21. M

    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    I get the pneumonia vaccine, because I have had it and am susceptible. Had it five times in three years. But guess what, I haven't had it since I've gotten the vaccines. Because it works! Unlike the covid one, which doesn't. I know covid is real, but like I said, am not gonna be shamed or forced...
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    A little story about the crowded hospitals.... Here where I live, I drive by the hospital on nearly a daily basis. Never noticed anything different, aside from a lot emptier parking lots. Then, one day I am driving by, and a news crew is there. Along with three refrigerated trucks, and a crowd...
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    That number is and has been greatly exaggerated. They have already proven that. People who died from car accidents and the such have covid listed as well. It was a cash grab. Anyone they could put covid on they did. There's a reason there are lawsuits about it right now. I am not saying it isn't...
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    Heartbreak on the Wasatch

    My only question is.... What's the point of the vaccine if you can still get it and pass it? That has been my question the whole time... How do you know you didn't get it first and it take longer to show on you with vaccine? If the vaccine worked like they said it does, people with vaccine...
  25. M

    Wife's muzzy bull

    Awesome! Great bull! She looks extremely happy, and that's all that matters!
  26. M

    6.5CM for cow elk

    Like I said, we have always used the term referring to energy. It may be slang, but it's what we use. And no smart ass, sour old man is going to make me stop using it.... But, those smart ass, sour old, argumentative men are why this website is why it isn't what it once was. Why there are very...
  27. M

    2021 Vernon muzzy buck

    Awesome! That is a great buck! Better than a lot of hunters ever shoot! He's gotta be a happy kid, and you a proud dad!
  28. M

    6.5CM for cow elk

    Well its real to a lot of people I know, and to me. So I really don't care if it's "real" to you. We are talking about reloading, not a full on scientific experiment. Like I said, it's a term enough people use that if you search it, it goes to exactly what we are talking about. So that shows...
  29. M

    6.5CM for cow elk

    Knockdown power is a term a lot of people use. Sorry it' s not proper for you......
  30. M

    6.5CM for cow elk

    Im just asking that because the CM haters say the Creedmoor isn't enough gun, but actually has better energy at 300 yards from a 140 grain bullet than a 180 gr from a 308. Just to show them that it is their hate for the cartridge that blinds their judgement.
  31. M

    6.5CM for cow elk

    Here is a serious question? Who here would say a .308 is a good elk round?
  32. M

    6.5CM for cow elk

    I think he gets 6000fps with that one!
  33. M

    6.5CM for cow elk

    I think he's halfway down the throat with that one....
  34. M

    6.5CM for cow elk

    Yes, you know the ft-lbs of energy the bullet has on impact. Otherwise known as knockdown power.... If you do a simple search for bullet knockdown power, it will result in charts of energy measurements in a rating of ft-lbs on impact. Is that better for you?
  35. M

    6.5CM for cow elk

    Im talking about the bullets I use. Not the bullets in general. Sorry I didn't clarify that........ I have been reloading for almost 30 years, I know what BC is and that every single bullet has a different BC, even of the same caliber and grain. But that was just a joke to roadrunner, even...
  36. M

    6.5CM for cow elk

    Yes sir. The TTSX has good Ballistic Coefficient. But they also withstand the torture of pushing the high speeds. The 145 GR LRX in 7mm has a BC of .486, which is just as good as the accubond, but I trust it more. It is also basically the same on knockdown power and speed retention if they leave...
  37. M

    6.5CM for cow elk

    True. But I like my bullets flying as fast as possible, as long as they are accurate. That's why I switched to solid copper. Dont have to worry about it. They hold up, as long as they are accurate. The Barnes TTSX have been great to me. Retain 99+% of weight and can absolutely scream out of the...
  38. M

    6.5CM for cow elk

    I think it is a velocity issue. The ones I have experience with were travelling a little over 3000 fps on impact. These 160s are doing a little under that at the muzzle, so hopefully it'll be a 150-300 yard shot and be traveling a little slower. I think the 3000+ fps is a little too fast for them.
  39. M

    6.5CM for cow elk

    I am not a fan of either the accubond or ELDX. I saw an eldx from 7 mm WSM absolutely explode on a twig hit. Looked like a shotgun shot on the other side. Took three shots in the boiler out of the same gun, 120 GR to bring down an antelope. Definitely was not happy with that performance. It has...
  40. M

    Goat hunt by “No Mans Land”

    It may not be on the hunter, for all we know, he may have told guide he wasn't comfortable shooting from that distance. We do not know the details on that side. But if he chose to shoot that distance, and did not say he was uncomfortable shooting that far, than yes, Thank God.
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