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How do you play the game if you don’t know the rules??

Totally agree. BHA and NMWF are both extreme left outfits. They love to cherry pick their data and push a narrative that the world might end soon. They NEVER mention the land it opens up. They also love to paint a picture of EPLUS with as broad of a brush as possible to fit their agenda. If you...

There are a few guys on here who “get it.” The people who aren’t in that category seem to always be the ones who are uneducated on the program. Solid info that BullDawg87 provided.

Yes. Yes. The public currently does enjoy the same level of access as the landowner within the hunt dates! If that happens to not be the case you need to document it and make a report. It’s that simple. The NMG&F dept has proven it will go the extra mile to build a case. Nothing is going to...

Report it just like you would any other game violation. To not make the call is just as bad as not making the call for any other violation.

Again, it was "open" and totally available for you to hunt. You just chose a public forum to voice your opinion which happens to be totally invalid. You simply did not like the TYPE of access from the location you chose, which sounds like the good old 2-foot type. This is also why you have...

Park your truck and walk the hell in there! Or unload a bike and use the road if one exists. If you truly think that being "open to hunting" means the gates have to be open and you can drive in there it tells me you haven't read the rules. They can lock any and all gates (even better IMO...

I would think if they care about the cash they care about the elk. The “African model” of game management isn’t all that crazy in some aspects. If game has value then people value game.

You can’t judge ‘em by looking at them on a map. I’ve hunted some killer properties that are between 10-60 acres. Wouldn’t trade them for 500 acre properties. Also, those are SCR properties so it’s not like those landowners are getting tags every year. It might be every few at best, and it...

Ask “some of the guys”…well, in the case of an area like unit 15 for example, that has 2k tag holders, “some of the guys” amounts to literally a drop in the bucket. I know quite a few guys who hunt almost nothing but UW ranches. You have a preconceived notion based on an opinion. It is baseless...

Page 6, #16. https://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/download/hunting/maps/e-plus/EPLUS-2024-25-Initial-Application-and-Agreement-Primary-Zone.pdf

If someone doesn’t know what a UW ranch is or where to get the map info they can’t be helped, they are dumber than a rock and deserve what they have…an IQ in the single digits. Most of the UW ranches aren’t even hunted by public hunters??? How TF do you know. This is what I love, guys talking...

I’m sure he’s a Democrat.

Why does the price mean so much to you? What’s the cutoff? Who TF cares if they make nothing or 20k? Public resource blah blah blah…you wouldn’t have any if it wasn’t for their private resources… I’d bet you jump at the chance to be president of your HOA, considering how much you love to virtue...

If they aren’t worth that then the guy won’t get it. Even if they get twice that amount who cares? If he asks too much and waits too long and has to eat them then maybe a lesson will be learned. The house down the street from me wasn’t worth 600k but someone paid 3x more for it. Who cares? Maybe...

Replaced with what? Overcrowded public land, elk shot and left to waste on private, water turned off, and a loss of access to a million acres of private/landlocked public land? You don’t know how good you have it. When both sides think they are getting screwed it is probably a good program.

Ya…for domestic livestock.

You’re trying to converse with someone who doesn’t even possess the most basic/simple math skills. What’s funny is these guys always love to bring up the NAMWC, as if it is law or an unbreakable commandment. It’s a model, and a noble one that has a ton of value, but it isn’t a concrete tablet...

I was being serious…?

iPhone 15? You like it?

45% higher sounds so much more outrageous than 7% better odds…you should apply for a job with BHA since you have their way of discussing numbers figured out. Lol. The other species mentioned all have private tags that can be transferred in NM yet the groups in question never discuss them…

Ok, let’s go with 15 as an example. I don’t have the time to add up how much land it opens up to hunting but it is substantial. Of those 170 private tags 84% would go to Resident hunters. That’s 143. They would add more to the early season so to make the math easy let’s add 100 tags to the early...

Well, this could be the dumbest thing I read on the internet today. Sorry to be so blunt, but you have no idea how draw odds work do you? Crunch the numbers a little bit harder and get back to us. Use 16A total archery tags for an example. 400 public tags, 10 private…which opens up around 4k...

Well, they NEVER mention how much private it opens up to public hunting, or how much landlocked public it opens up. They love to cherry pick numbers that makes their position look more relevant. For example they typically use total permit numbers across the entire state in their data. How can...

People probably get away with stuff all the time, but if you are implying that wardens won’t or don’t enforce those laws I think you’re incorrect.

You’re partially right, but not painting the whole picture. You make it sound as if anyone on private ground in the entire unit (17) can hunt with a rifle. Not the case. If the ranch is in the PMZ they have to adhere to a 5 day season (14 Oct - 31 Dec) and the primitive weapons restrictions. If...

There are only 2 properties listed for Welty, one in 17 and one in 21B. Both are UW. He could have property on the Secondary Management Zone that would be RO. If he is doing this in the PMZ submit your proof and a complaint to the EPLUS manager and head of enforcement. If that goes nowhere...

I hope your horses and/or mules are packed up and ready to go.

If the OP’s argument is based on the total public land in the unit as a whole, it is a poor argument. The southern portion of the unit has the large blocks of public (BLM/state). The middle of the unit, where the Ladder ranch is located is roughly the end of the good elk country. That northern...

The overwhelming majority of 21B is in the Secondary Management Zone. Public tags are very limited and private tags outside that small portion of the Primary Management Zone are unlimited. Not sure how anyone could be surprised with the data unless you don’t know anything about the status of the...

Nice. How many points?

What season?

Where do you live, Russia?

With the exception of the trapping piece isn’t this how NV currently manages lions? You can even shoot two. The lions over there seem to be doing just fine.

Can the next successful person who hunts with him please tell him it’s time to mix up the trophy photos. A whacked off head with the shooter holding it out like a 16” walleye at arms length back at camp is a piss poor way to take pics on a guided hunt in todays world. Just my opinion.

Funny how that isn’t mentioned.

Solid feedback. And 100% agree with the observations you have provided regarding the ratio of 350 bulls on outfitters IG pages.

It’s not forgotten, just a point or two shy of what it takes to draw that one. Aka 3-5 yrs.

Best season in 40? Archery, 2/3/4 rifle?