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    Unit 9 NM land owner fraud on camera

    In all honesty… I’ve been a lazy hunter. I’ve never put effort into being involved in our conservation.. I get it now. Many of us know 9 used to be basically top tier in quantity (alot of ugly rag horns though) but they taste just as good. But all our units need help. Landowners need help. There...
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    What effect will removing lion quota have?

    Ohhh come on. You can do better. This post is about lion quotas and their affect on deer populations. I’ll match your level of effort. This is your freebie. I gave you more effort on this reply than you gave me. Plenty of confrontational topics to choose from. Pick a topic and let’s do this...
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    What effect will removing lion quota have?

    I’ve been trying to research anything and everything about predator management and predators effects on an ecosystems to understand why… I understand the idea of trophic cascade… but being humans are really the top predator... are wolves and grizzlies and lions necessary? Or just fill a...
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    What effect will removing lion quota have?

    Don’t discriminate.. those poor wolves and suffering grizzly populations need a bug too.
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    Unit 9 NM land owner fraud on camera

    It would be nice to see corrective action taken. I am pretty sure they offer reading and writing courses in prison. And even character building and teamwork! Unfortunately based off the character shown.. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is more to the story.. old under the table off the books...
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    How do I get to hunt on the Floyd Lee Ranch, NM

    Same argument you would have trying to convince a liberal non-hunter why we enjoy hunting. It’s work. a grind and at times miserable. But worth every step. You asked.. I answered.
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    How do I get to hunt on the Floyd Lee Ranch, NM

    Yes! You pay to use the ski lift and amenities. Not the ski area. You are free to hike up and ski to your hearts content.
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    Unit 9 NM land owner fraud on camera

    That would be great. We all want sustainable hunting and opportunities to harvest. Pretty simple you would think.
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    Unit 9 NM land owner fraud on camera

    I also heard… apparently game and fish has not kept record of complaints until recently. No definition of “recently.” And we are talking about only one unit. Nothing shady going on here…
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    Matt Rinella on Social Media

    Loved your post. I agree and disagree. Mostly disagree about emotions. I think you are missing his point. No hard feelings regardless fyi. Just comments here. Hunting to most is emotional. Few can separate hunting as a hobby and a good time out Vs hunting as a means of providing meat. It...
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    Unit 9 NM land owner fraud on camera

    Double that my friend :mad::mad::mad:??? Unfortunately they do. They’ll run their truck right down the middle and bust them out. If you’re lucky you see the helicopter and get buzzed by it.
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    Unit 9 NM land owner fraud on camera

    I agree. They have been telling this lie for long enough they believe it. There are a bunch of issues in here that will burn you p. I love how Elk Shape says “I respect what you do.” Not ha. No documentation. Doesn’t know the district ranger or even his name yet this is a constant battle...
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    Unit 9 NM land owner fraud on camera

    Sorry for your experience. We all understand this happens probably in every state. I don't know what the fix is yet being everything is amount money.. having the money and power to fight these kind of battles.. seems impossible but we have to stay on top of these examples and make enough noise...
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    Unit 9 NM land owner fraud on camera

    Here is part 2 of these hunter’s experience. “Elk cartel.” This ranch has ran elk into the property for years. Unfortunately and unbelievably.. apparently NMG&F has NOT recorded the complaints. Sounds like the ranch and out fitter have been “fined” to no avail. I’m preparing info to get to...
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    Unit 9 NM land owner fraud on camera

    These guys have destroyed the unit. Time to pay the piper.
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    Unit 9 NM land owner fraud on camera

    pretty hard to get any change when there is corruption. It’s about the money somewhere. There is no other excuse. If you can’t win fair… cheat. Ppl are getting paid off this somehow.
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    Unit 9 NM land owner fraud on camera

    I agree. Elk Shape held it together pretty well considering. If this was me I would have lost my ****. Or would have made it a point to call game and fish to get up there immediately.
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    Unit 9 NM land owner fraud on camera

    And yet he has no idea what the rangers name is…. Right.
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    Unit 9 NM land owner fraud on camera

    For cattle yes. Not for hunting. It’s not like Texas or back East where they have leases with exclusive hunting rights. The owner owns 60% of the Entire mountain range as it is but this unit is 45 minutes away from a major city and Game and Fish offices. Even closer to the regional office. It’s...
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    Unit 9 NM land owner fraud on camera

    Anyone who has hunted unit 9 NM knows how far it has fallen due to mismanagement and the ole Floyd Lee helicopter. Thanks to a YouTuber Elk shape.. he caught these ppl lying out of their asses about state land being his own hunting lease. My family has hunted 9 for a combined 100+ years...
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