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You don't just drill a water well and problem solved. There isn't always water in the hole much less good water. Does the NMG&F even have a full commission ? They have been a joke the last several years ever since our good governor took charge.

Seems to me that owning land with elk habitat comes with an inherent risk of elk damaging fences or crops. Kind of like owning and operating a vehicle and you get a rock chip in the windshield.

There are many places where there's only one water source per 1200 acres for livestock and yes wells go down, water lines bust, float in the tank fails and drains the storage. When this happens you get off your ass and start hauling water or moving cattle. More water sources would be ideal...

Dosen't seem like you guys have any personal experience with cattle and the water required to sustain them. Like you just want to talk up the eplus system, which IMHO is nothing more than landowner welfare.

The only time one drinker per two sections isn't more than enough water is when the drinker is dry.

Thats a lot of wells and drinkers for 1200 acres when one drinker would be plenty.

I wonder how many ranchers actually drill water wells or run water lines or install storage tanks with drinkers for anything other than cattle. And if some actually do what the returns are on the improvements.

I did not know you could figure draw odds with out the number of applicants. But I do know its not uncommon to go years without drawing a elk tag.

Done

If Joe2kools numbers are skewed then so is the 100 million dollars. 100,000,000.00 from NR elk tags seems like a stretch. Imho

Not trying to be a smart alec but what would poaching have to do with mountain lions?

What was that about?

my daily driver is a 97 tacoma with 500,000 miles and I still can't afford a land owner tag...FML

Which organizations would install drinkers that aren't associated with the livestock industries ?

Dosen't the NM Game & Fish lease the hunting rights on state trust land?

I hunted the late Dec. APRE/6/A and I didn't think you could drive across 34 and not see a cow elk, WRONG. I hunted all five days and never saw a cow elk. Same hunt last year you could find a few along the highway between Cloudcroft and Mayhill on private land.