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Hmmm. splitting hairs?? I asked for data for two things…..your particular county……which you provided…..after 14 posts back and forth……and I guess my bad…../didn’t realize you were from a county in Texas…..sorry….but Mule deer herds in Texas isn’t really what this thread is about…..since your a...

Outside of the idiocy of that statement…….trust me most credible wildlife biologists “worry” about the data……..we are nonetheless making progress here……. So only took 14 posts…..but you have finally provided some decent data to show that Texas has seen that as the result. So that is progress...

Perfect……then please post some actual data that indicates APR’s do anything more then just move the average (Typical Value) harvest up 1 yr in Western States mule deer herds?? Post data from your County that indicates your herd Typical Value (average) buck harvested is now 3.5 yrs old...

I agree completely; was just trying to keep it simple but, after doing some research here, I see what Tristate's gig is.............apples and oranges comparisons, and Texas, county wide regulations, large swaths of private ground, outiftter apologist.............like I said, I understand his...

My position is simple.....the long term negatives of APR's outweigh the positives of shooting 2.5 yr old deer vs 1.5 yr old deer. Its that simple......and all the science backs that up. From all States. The data is posted above; simple google searches can get you there. EVERYBODY...

more word gotcha........ Let me be more clear..... By "work" I mean that it will actually do something positive to the deer herd that outweighs the negative. Simple definition. Facts supported by mountains of research on APR's: 1. They protect 1.5 yr old deer resulting in a stockpile of...

well are down to word "gotcha"?? Definition of Average: 1. A number expressing the central or typical value in a set of data...... Let me re-phrase.........The "typical value" of the age of harvested bucks is 1.5 yr old in most, if not all Western, general draw units. So, if APR's work...

And if shooting a 2.5 yr old buck instead of a 1.5 yr old buck is a worthy goal that we all agree on, then I have no problem about that. But, that is not what the average person posting on this thread is wanting.....they think we are somehow helping the overall buck to doe ratio for the long...

Finally........a voice of reason........ APR's never seem to die; I guess for those of us who have been around long enough a new cycle of hunters are now old enough to actually think these will work. They are a gimmick....... Just some salient points: Comparing APR programs in Pennsylvania...

Cannot compare Whitetail and Mule Deer; two completely different species and each have their own unique habitat areas, population dispersions, breeding habits, etc. Biggest difference is mule deer bucks create harems; whitetail bucks search and seek out individual does to breed. Lots of...

Agree with all of this; habitat is the number one issue; quality habitat equals higher fawn recruitment; only thing I would add is the game departments have very few levers to actually pull to help the overall size of the herd; one of the few levers to pull is doe harvests. So, I think its...

The problem is much deeper then just juggling seasons around, zones, etc. Have hunted all over the West since the 1980's, all DIY public land hunts and have witnessed first hand some dramatic population declines in many areas; some areas that have held well; and many areas that are just...