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  1. Vanilla

    WILL YOU??? HAVE YOU??? WILL YOU NOT??? SELF REGULATE???

    Nah, don’t insult trophy hunters like that.
  2. Vanilla

    Wildlife Board Workshop

    Deadibob, for committee to be effective there has to a vision and clear goal. This is another area our wildlife committees often fall short. But if your committee is staffed with the right people to help accomplish that goal, a good leader brings out ideas from everyone and keeps the committee...
  3. Vanilla

    WILL YOU??? HAVE YOU??? WILL YOU NOT??? SELF REGULATE???

    I’ll just repost this here.
  4. Vanilla

    WILL YOU??? HAVE YOU??? WILL YOU NOT??? SELF REGULATE???

    Except I never said that. I have never typed a single time I wanted to double tags or thought that was a good idea. I also said nothing about tag numbers at all in the post that listed my starting point for managing deer in Utah. In fact, I've told you no less than 100 times I don't want to...
  5. Vanilla

    WILL YOU??? HAVE YOU??? WILL YOU NOT??? SELF REGULATE???

    How is that possible? You responded to my initial proposal on this very website less than a week ago. Quit lying. Quit pretending. Nobody buys it. I really am willing to discuss anything, but you have "jumped the shark" and are no longer worthy of any serious consideration by anyone. Just...
  6. Vanilla

    WILL YOU??? HAVE YOU??? WILL YOU NOT??? SELF REGULATE???

    Quit obsessing over me then. I’m not even paying you rent. Let it go, you’ll be okay.
  7. Vanilla

    WILL YOU??? HAVE YOU??? WILL YOU NOT??? SELF REGULATE???

    You need me to send you some nudes too? Or has bessy already shared at your tea party? Let me know. I’m here to help.
  8. Vanilla

    WILL YOU??? HAVE YOU??? WILL YOU NOT??? SELF REGULATE???

    He just can’t help himself! Goodness, the train wreck is painful to watch, but it is hard to look away.
  9. Vanilla

    WILL YOU??? HAVE YOU??? WILL YOU NOT??? SELF REGULATE???

    I second ridge’s request. What does this even mean? I could have killed at least 3 different bucks from exactly where I was at in the moment last year. It wouldn’t have required getting closer. I didn’t even shoulder a weapon to look through the scope on any. There are others I could have...
  10. Vanilla

    Wildlife Board Workshop

    It’s hilarious how flattered you are with yourselves. Carry on.
  11. Vanilla

    Wildlife Board Workshop

    No it doesn’t. Swing and a miss. Strike one.
  12. Vanilla

    Wildlife Board Workshop

    I’ve been on committees that have produced fantastic ideas. Not for our wildlife management, but therein lies my point: they keep having the wrong people under the wrong leadership. And a real leader isn’t there to change everyone else’s minds. That is not leadership.
  13. Vanilla

    Wildlife Board Workshop

    Some might (correctly) argue we already did that with SFW. Had it work out? Don’t blame me. I opposed it when it happened and have always opposed the “conservation” organization that forced it through against the will of the Division.
  14. Vanilla

    Wildlife Board Workshop

    I laugh that within the last 3 days you criticized my ideas I'd like to see us start with that I posted on this very website, and now you are demanding "my plan," not once, not twice, not three times, but now FIVE times over the last 12 hours. You truly have lost your marbles.
  15. Vanilla

    Wildlife Board Workshop

    Never been better, you?
  16. Vanilla

    Wildlife Board Workshop

    I disagree. Get the right people in the room having the right conversations and committees can be fantastic and produce incredible ideas. Like I said before, they fail when the wrong people are in the room being led in the wrong ways. Example: why do we give so much of a voice to ag producers...
  17. Vanilla

    Wildlife Board Workshop

    Disagree. You just have to have the right people on the committee and the right leader running the show. This is where most committees fail. I don’t want the same one or two people making all the decisions on anything! Even if one of those two is me.
  18. Vanilla

    Backfire Milk Jug Challenge

    I think it’s great that people take the time to try to perfect their craft, regardless of what it is. I appreciate greatness in all walks of life. I’d love to see JPickett show his stuff. I really enjoy watching the best do what they do. Take the challenge jpickett. It would be cool to see a...
  19. Vanilla

    Another Educational Opportunity

    Only if you get your way.
  20. Vanilla

    Another Educational Opportunity

    What do they say is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing and expecting a different result. I’m not insane. I’m ready for a different vision.
  21. Vanilla

    Another Educational Opportunity

    Two more things than a single idea of tag cuts. Just sayin.
  22. Vanilla

    CVA Accura LRX or MRX ?

    What about the MRX in 50 cal? Any horror stories or solid wins out of that one? I don’t care about long range, but if I were to buy a new muzzy I’d like to get something I could rely on out to 200-250 yards. A 3 inch group at 100 yards at the range isn’t what I’d consider reliable if that is...
  23. Vanilla

    Another Educational Opportunity

    I’d love to see important wildlife migration corridors protected with fencing and under/overpasses. You’d think we could get some more of those with the tens of millions of dollars the hunt expo has generated for “conservation,” but I am not seeing those orgs step up. Additionally, I’d like to...
  24. Vanilla

    Another Educational Opportunity

    Tough guy? Ain’t nobody tough on the internet. Quit pretending.
  25. Vanilla

    NHL in Utah

    Nope, not you. You’re well aware of how crappy it is here and how everyone else should stay away. Like you said, nothing to see here.
  26. Vanilla

    Backfire Milk Jug Challenge

    I think it would be fun to do this challenge. Not because I think I can hit 100 out of 100. I’m certain I could not, even under the best of conditions. It would be fun to test what my real limitations in a hunting scenario are. A bench rest shooting steel is very different than shooting in...
  27. Vanilla

    NHL in Utah

    Utah Cutthroats is what I want. It’s our state fish, after all. The ship of keeping people out of Utah sailed decades ago. Unfortunately… Now we just have out of staters that can’t stay away that like to preach to us about how bad it is here.
  28. Vanilla

    Another Educational Opportunity

    The answer to this question, no matter what follows, is no. No, he has not considered that. Also no. The answer is always no. This dude doesn’t even know there is a multi-season hunt on the Wasatch! But we’ll fix the deer herd with tag numbers. By golly, it’s bound to work eventually!
  29. Vanilla

    Another Educational Opportunity

    Tag numbers. That’s the only “management” strategy. Always has been, always will be. I’m sure eventually it will work. It’s got to! Or, we can start actually managing mule deer instead of people. It’s a choice, and I choose mule deer. Some here will insist we stick to people and then they can...
  30. Vanilla

    Another Educational Opportunity

    :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
  31. Vanilla

    Another Educational Opportunity

    Which units hunt deer through February?
  32. Vanilla

    Another Educational Opportunity

    Haha! You don’t even realize how dumb you make yourself look. Keep at it. Respond to yourself 4 times again and then yell about BAWLING. Go get em Bess!
  33. Vanilla

    Another Educational Opportunity

    Indeed, it does!
  34. Vanilla

    Another Educational Opportunity

    All about tag allocations. Not one statement about how to actually increase mule deer. Let that sink in loud and clear for everyone. The single biggest whiner on the internet’s “management” plan for mule deer is 100% around tag allocations. I’m sure it will with this time even though it...
  35. Vanilla

    Another Educational Opportunity

    All his “management” ideas have to do with tag allocations. Odd. Still trying to increase deer by managing people. Maybe it will work the thousandth time???
  36. Vanilla

    Another Educational Opportunity

    I think this is what almost everybody talking about this is saying just that: let’s learn more! Then you get shouted down by pure uninhibited ignorance. But what are people so afraid of that we might find out? Or again, we can just cut tags like normal and stick to plan a couple people on here...
  37. Vanilla

    Wildlife Board Workshop

    You’re sounding like elkASS now, and that isn’t a compliment. We need to do a lot of new things. I think we agree on that. You’re just too stuck in some faux fight that is a decade plus old that you can’t see we want the same thing. Keep on your quest to make this about what you want it to be...
  38. Vanilla

    Wildlife Board Workshop

    Unfortunately it’s often the misguided hunters forcing the bureaucrats into the recommendations they make. So, sorry muley73, but you’re missing the point of what I’m saying. In fact, what you’re saying is exactly what I’m advocating for to stop! We are obtaining incredible data. More so than...
  39. Vanilla

    Wildlife Board Workshop

    Okay, forget summer range and just cut tags Bessy. We get it! How many times you going to say my name? I can send nudes if you need them that badly.
  40. Vanilla

    Wildlife Board Workshop

    It’s interesting, one of the podcasts I said that I learned some things from and have been blasted 7200 times since (in a two week period…) talks about summer range being the most important thing, and hinted strongly we need more fires to help our deer herds. But…I’m sure some would just prefer...
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