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How many of those guys are still in education. Sure feels like 'those guys' are gradually being steered away (one way or another) from education. I spent over 2 decades in a public school. During that time there was an observable decrease in the percentage of teachers I'd expect would step up...

Straw Poll: 'lol-face' if you built a home on winter range. 'sad-face' if you expect somebody else to do it. 'angry-face' if you're pissed off that somebody hasn't fixed it for you. 'shades' if you've actually done something to improve winter range you own. 'heart-eyes' if you've...

I always assume that if they do not provide that information... it's information that you don't want to hear.

Demand the SCOTUS and your representatives enforce the constitution and none of this is an issue. Wildlife is a state's right!

Not likely in Utah. Quota units are low success rates. Possible but not likely.

Cool video of elk behavior. He had y'all pegged.

"I"m from the government and here to help."

Anybody listen to JRE yesterday? More speech. Not restricted speech!

I don't believe you have a complete understanding of the biology... i.e. mortality/natality. If you believe in the free movement of wildlife populations in and out of private lands then... not killing animals on one side of the fence will, over time, lead to greater harvest on the other side of...

There it is again, "they will remove themselves from the program..." Nobody can KNOW that. Stop saying it as if its gospel. sheesh Rather.. let's push for a better balance of permit ratios. Let's make a change and find out.

Antler gathering is legally restricted beginning Feb 1. Yes... I understand one can complete the course etc etc. Point is.. the law is ridiculous. Laws have always existed regarding harassment of wildlife. As they have been unenforceable... the state creates more... unenforceable laws.

Straw Poll: Which do y'all think CWMU's prioritize? Wildlife? or Profits? Don't get me wrong... they are not mutually exclusive and I'm sure many....MANY... CWMU's care about both. But... if they were unable to profit from the wildlife.. What percentage of operators do you think would...

Just seeking knowledge here Vanilla. There seems to be disagreement on how CWMU's affect permit numbers. I seek clarification. The division counts population according to geographical areas. These areas have CWMUs incorporated within them. I keep hearing the argument that the CWMU permits...

Can you link me to proclamation page for info on 'private land' elk tags? Again... I'm an idiot... I thought we had one species of elk. I'm not familiar with the 'private land' species. Legally.. who owns this species? If you know of elk that are restricted to private land, do you mind...

And if the landowner does not want the animals there... they can allow hunters to hunt. Wait.. I thought herd objectives were established independent of private land ownership? Are you saying the division lies to us? Please define 'good enough'. From what I can see it always means...

Yeah... not so much. The content of antlers is primarily calcium. Not something in short supply. A decaying antler is not contributing protein to the food chain. Just isn't happening. If there was any protein in them... they'd be consumed immediately by animals.

Vanilla: One point and one, straight forward, question for ya... Sounds like you are familiar with some great experiences on CWMU's. Awesome. That's a testament in the positive for CWMU's. Other people have had very different experiences on CWMU's. That is their truth. When they describe...

Thanks for the response. It's valuable conversation. I am concerned that.. well.. hmmm how to put this? Are you saying that the division allocates permits based on the needs of the CWMU? I understood that permits are allocated based on herd objective and what is good for the population of...

If they are convinced and precedent is established, WY hunters must file suit. Wars have been fought over taxation without representation. The management of the land is funded through taxation. Denying public access to these lands is definitely denying representation. Original privatization...

If anybody has any influence.. I suggest it'd be beneficial to have a state program, targeting owners of small parcels of land, offering treatment resources for invasive vegeatation. i.e. herbicides, seed mixes, equipment/crew for cultivating/spraying. So much winter range is currently held...

Another waste of governance. Create laws that are unenforceable and, most likely, contrary to existing law.

Identify the thief! If it factual that he stole from you.. call him out publicly.

I didn't say we are guaranteed to have it. I said IT's present is guaranteed winter feed. Aside from that point... you're absolutely correct. Some good research out there on a fungus that consumes cheatgrass seed. Personally I'm attempting heavy early-spring grazing as a means of controlling...

Thanks for the thoughtful response. A few counterpoints... 1- CWMU's, imho, are unlikely to opt out. If they did they would lose all influence on permits for the said land. Selling 'trespass permits' during dates established as 'general season' hunts is no where near as profitable as what...

Guaranteed mule deer winter feed: large tracts of sage brush, bitter brush and mahogany.

It's imperative that we, as hunters, support states rights as written into the U.S. Constitution. If we fail to do so we will ultimately lose control of the resource with more crap like what came out of Washington in late 60's. Environmental Protection Agency, Endangered Species Act, Wild...

Absolutely valid points. CWMU's are create public opportunities on private land. I think most people simply take issue with the splits. 90:10. Giving 90% of elk and deer permits (public resource) to the landowner is highway robbery. I suspect as population increases and the demand for...

I can ski and golf in my backyard for free. Just sayin'. I can also hunt deer and elk on my property. Except... I am unable to obtain a permit to harvest animals that reside on my land. Monopolistic practices exist across all venues.... Including hunting. Government (at least U.S.) serves...

90% of tags go to the landowner. 1 in 10 goes to public. CWMU's are a good idea but the tag split is horrid. Remember.... the wildlife on the land belongs to the people of the state (if you subscribe to the U.S. constitution anyway). Minimum 50% of permits should go to the public imho.

Question for Utahns. Should the state be more lenient regarding private ownership of animals such as monkeys, exotic cats, etc?

It'll end up in the courts at some point. i.e. somebody becomes paralyzed and can't utilize the points they have invested years and $$ in. I do believe eventually there'll be some way to transfer points as not doing so will create a liability to the state. When the points to draw exceeds the...

Anybody wondering why they don't simply separate trumpeter and tundra swan permits? IMHO there will always be a few guys that will pursue trumpeter species to fill a spot on the wall in spite of hunt being shut down. I'd suggest a mandatory check-in on harvest and a 99 year waiting period for...

Read something yesterday... I think it's applicable. "Tell me the rules and I'll figure out how to win." The problem, as I see it... they keep changing the F'n rules. You spend decades accumulating points so you can finally have that hunt of a lifetime.... (trophy jackrabbit, or something...

My concern is regarding bear permits. Whereas some hunters have been applying for over a decade to obtain a multi-season bear permit and now they are going to dump otc spot and stalk bear hunters on top of those hunts. I'm sure those spot and stalk guys will totally be respectful of bait...

The deer are eating the young trees.. Get out there and do your part guys!

Soooo.... congrats to the author on inflaming his audience. ;) Read it again Hoss. Read it again. I'll even attempt to be clearer: The author, in my opinion, is lazy in their reporting. Literally presenting a snapshot and using it as evidence of a persistent problem. Might as well take a...

Ok Dari Dari Ok.. I'll bite. Do you think the egg can differentiate between sperm from 2 year old buck and a 5 year old buck? Or is it that you're convinced that big two point is a genetic dead end? He'll never get bigger? Grow more points?

Black Timber??

Independence. struck a cord with me.

North end of a certain mountain in so. utah you can glass down and see piles of chalk. Hiked down the first time I saw them only to learn why they've been left there.