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I think you are confusing a few things. The weighted score applies to the base properties (a property that receives at least one authorization), they do not draw for authorizations. Any property not receiving one whole authorizations is put into SCR where they have to draw yearly for 1...

UW authorizations do not incentivize LO’s to do any of that. The authorization is worth the market value of the unit regardless if an elk ever steps on the deeded ground or not. I know too many UW authorization recipients to believe that for a second. UW recipient’s have no reason to want to...

I guess it sounds good in theory, but no way it will ever happen. The amount of money being paid for leases and/or buying properties has become staggering. Well into 6 figures being paid for leases on some places, no way the AG industry is going to allow UW authorizations across the board. From...

This subject always brings out the divide. The elimination of E-Plus that NMWF, BHA and others are pushing for is the wrong answer and it seems many would agree. I’ve asked NMWF multiple times what the plan was for all the RO authorizations and have never got a straight answer. In some units...

Where is the meaningful benefit? I have personally seen these properties and they do not have the water everyone falls back to. Why does a small cabin site with a stream that runs for miles up and down stream of the property on USFS land get water points? NMDGF got rid of a lot of properties...

E-Plus IMO needs a major overhaul. No one should be receiving authorizations for 2/10/20 acres, SCR needs to be eliminated. A person can easily find numerous properties that leave you scratching your head. The equal access issue has been an issue more than once for us. Before people start...

So far just about every gun control measure has made it passed committee. “It won’t happen here” is fixing to happen. We will be with NY and California on some of the strictest gun laws in the nation.

This is being heard by the second committee tomorrow after getting through the first. Call, e-mail everyone on the committee. https://www.nmlegis.gov/Committee/Standing_Committee?CommitteeCode=HJC

I probably worded it wrong. It sounds like all the same people of NMSFW?

Just out of curiosity, it sounds like NMSFW under another name?

I have a good understanding of the program and would say NMDGF had a good frame work for a good program, but allowed politics and Jennings Law to taint it.

This property is not a one off by any stretch of the imagination. What meaningful benefit does this property have? How does the property benefit the average draw hunter? Who is the only one benefitting? Who is going to hunt this “ranch”? Before someone brings it up, yes, it is an SCR property...

E-Plus, like many .gov programs started out with good intentions, but morphed into something it never should have. The conversation needs to be broke out into producing “ranches/property” and hobby property. A good portion of property enrolled are nothing more than recreational properties...

The conspiracy theories are running. The bull has/had been seen by others. Theres a reason some of the biggest animals killed are never seen on the www.

Have/had SG, Kifaru and Exo. Packs are like boots IMO, what’s great for one, may not work for another. Kifaru IMO is the best built pack of the 3, but did not work for me no matter how hard I tried. The frame is very rigid which is nice with a heavy load, but not so much in day pack mode. If...

It was surprising. Especially the bow hunters that use sliders, carbon arrows, mechanical broad heads, etc arguing “primitive”. I can see the validity for some deer hunts, but it makes absolutely no sense for elk when NMDGF is saying elk herds are either stable or increasing.

Now it’s time to go after turrets and sliders.

Doesn’t get better than that..Congrats to the young lady and everyone else.

Impressive..Congrats.

Count them!!!

Agree with you on NMWF, but E-Plus needs an overhaul IMO. I can see how LO’s and outfitters are happy with the current system, but it has grown into something it never should have IMO.

It averages between 2500 to 3000 UW authorizations yearly. My point is, you are already competing against those hunters on public ground, so to me, the over crowding is a mute point when talking UW authorizations. Throw all the RO in the mix like some groups want, and yes, crowding would...

IMO the access issue is overrated. The majority of UW properties in the units I spend time in do not allow road/vehicle access. Maybe in other units they do, but that’s not my experience. I can think of one UW property in the units I’m familiar with that makes access a lot easier and I kind of...

Pretty easy to see how E-Plus has grown to what it is. There is no consensus on what’s right or wrong among hunters. Some see it as a back up plan if they don’t draw, some see it as an access issue, (which doesn’t make a lot of sense to me since it’s only for elk. I do take advantage of it...

The simple response would be, fence them out like everyone has to cattle. Yes, easier said than done, but that is the law.

Not a fan of either group, but 1000’s of those authorizations are already competing on public ground. Not for an elimination of E-Plus, but it needs a major overhaul IMO.

E-Plus is a good thing in theory IMO, but needs an overhaul. No one should be getting authorizations for 3/20/50 acres.

Agreed.

Where do you stop? Recurves only? Instinctive shooting only? Many would argue a person with a modern compound with a slider, range finder etc. is far from primitive.

i think it’s a slippery slope when you start limiting technology on one set of hunters.

The few issues I’ve had regarding UW properties were handled quickly by an officer or a call to the LO.

They have to allow equal access, not unrestricted access. If the person who bought the authorization, an outfitter, or any other hunter has motorized access to roads, all have motorized access. If they don’t allow any motorized access, all gates can be locked.

If the neighbors cattle get on the alfalfa and eat it to the ground, he has no claim unless the property is properly fenced, then he can trespass the cattle with the sheriff or Livestock Board. Why should it not be the same for wildlife if said owner truly doesn’t want them? Obviously we’re...

IMO, the E-Plus conversation gets convoluted with the word “ranch”. True producing properties need to be separated from hobby/vacation properties in the conversation. A guy from Fairbanks AK that buys 10 acres to be eligible in SCR can’t be in the same conversation as the producer that has...

Maybe we are saying the same thing, and/or I’m misinterpreting some of the above posts and apologize if so. This is what I think I’m disagreeing with. ”Brian, you are competing against every application as to when your application will be looked at. This competition is a function of all...

Only if they were vying for the same hunt codes.

But, your ping pong ball number is only relevant in relation to other ping pong balls that have the same hunt codes on an app. You could have ball 10,000 in the first draw, but if your ball is in the first 100 for your first choice hunt code, you’re golden. Eta; for a hunt with 100 tags. So...

Strong work NM.

This is the sponsor. https://www.nmlegis.gov/Members/Legislator?SponCode=HROYB

This is the committee that will be hearing it, with e-mail links. https://www.nmlegis.gov/Committee/Standing_Committee?CommitteeCode=HCPAC Everyone makes their own choices…Either go down swinging, or just let them win.