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You can't look at two data points and attempt to draw a trend line especially when there are 7 data pts between the two your trying to connect. As long as the resident permits are general it would be really hard to get a accurate count of resident hunters. The quality of deer in region G & H...

Yes you would the 30th would be ok.

LAST EDITED ON Apr-23-17 AT 09:39PM (MST)[p]The best option would be to make the Region G & H Sept 15-30th LQ with 1800 tags for each region for residents. (these LQ permits would only be good for archery & the rifle in these regions). Region G & H would then open to general permit holders Oct...

Funny, that's not my experience in Colorado at all. Colorado kicks the *&#% out of Wyoming with the exception of two general regions. I draw late season rifle tags that I can hunt every 2-3 years (as a nonresident) and they are better than the best LQ mule deer hunting in Wyoming. The hunts...

Resident regions is a great idea. It would help make Wyoming a more pleasurable place to hunt for everyone by reducing crowding. It will be interesting to see the results from the proposed pilot program in HA 82 & 100. That is pick a region + pick a period of the season in which to hunt.

I don't think we would ever want or need to feed deer 6 months a year. If you started feeding in Early December and continued till mid February-early March (depending on the severity of the winter). Most will definitely agree you cant wait till your 2 weeks into a extreme winter event to start...

JM77 you must have a different google than I do. I browsed the first couple of pages of your suggested search term & I see no damning studies on winter feeding of deer. Furthermore the study I did look at was published in the 2003. I think its fair to say that we now have better tools to...

Well said ICM DEER, it is also my thought that deer can and should be fed. Its to bad we couldn't have a in depth, unbiased (double blind) study as to its effectiveness or ineffectiveness. In the last 7 years the science of wildlife management has been greatly aided by new technology. GPS...

It has nothing to with caving to archery hunters. Nevada, Arizona, Utah, Colorado, & New Mexico do this to maximize opportunity & maximize revenue. These states utilize a much lower success rate associated with archery hunts to sell more tags and provide more hunters a chance to chase animals...

Buy a archery stamp and hunt Sept 1-14 in the Northern units and Sept 1-31st in HA 135.

Founder, The acceptable number of tags is around a 10% allocation to nonresidents. If that dips a little low in one particular unit, after a horrific winter so be it. Wyoming far exceeds 10% on a statewide average, Especially for elk, moose, sheep, & goats. For the record Utah gives <8% to...

I'm opposed to LQ in the regions for residents. I would not be opposed to pick a region, or a multitude of other solutions to reduce hunting pressure in G & H. I'm also not opposed to a reduction in non resident tags for region G. Wyoming gives away the bank to non-resident hunters when...

I'm telling my nonresident friends to hold off a year or two. There is going to be serious winter losses. Especially Sublette county

Major winter concerns in both hunt areas. Both are good but H has so much wilderness that its harder to find a place that isn't crowded. With that being said G can be pretty popular to. There is probably not better any better general hunt areas. People just need to keep in mind that they are...

The NR LQ hunt areas including region G & H deer should be 100% special, (except youth should be normal price). The market would support it. The general hunt areas including general elk tags, cow tags, and other regions should remain a 50/50 split because the market won't support huge...

NW Colorado & Baggs is in bad shape. Snow is deep. Rain would be a disaster because 2ft of snow would turn to ice. A week ago we had a <2" on the ground.

There a much bigger threat to wildlife in Western Wyoming than Wolves & grizzlies. They absolutely destroy habitat. It is no coincidence that the areas that harbor large populations of feral horses are also areas where deer herds are struggling the most. The worst thing is they are not...

Please take time to comment on the grizzly delisting in the greater Yellowstone ecosystem. FYI we(hunters) are getting our clocks cleaned in the comments count number. Here are my comments: Please delist the grizzly bear from the Endangered species list. Those of us that live & recreate in the...

Please take time to comment on the grizzly delisting in the greater Yellowstone ecosystem. FYI we(hunters) are getting our clocks cleaned in the comments count number. Here are my comments: Please delist the grizzly bear from the Endangered species list. Those of us that live & recreate in...

Yeah I would be adamantly opposed to any transferable points. Utah's system that allows youth hunters (<18) to hunt with a parent or grandparent is a great idea as you have to assume that 90% of the time the parent would of drawn the tag anyway. The big key is the parent or grandparent still...

Grizzly I looked at the odds. Currently (San Juan early season rifle elk) there are 19 tags with 1811 1st choice applicants for true odds of 1.04%. It would take 95 years to draw this tag except for a couple things. People die & apply for different units. If your kids were patient enough to...

Krazy, The fact is you will draw a quality elk tag when you get enough pts. A quick glance at the 2016 Utah drawing odds report shows that most LQ tags take 10-16pts. A handful of units take 20+ points. I have 16 years of putting in for a Wyoming LQ elk tag and have yet to draw a tag and...

Grizzly, NV has a great point system. Your right squaring pts doesn't improve your odds when compared to those that have the same amount of pts but either does any point system. It does give you a weighted advantage to those who have put in the longest without drawing & that's what a point...

First trapping, Then hounds chasing lions then coyote contests, then shooting on public lands, then spring bear hunting with baits, then "trophy" elk, deer, & sheep hunting. This is a slippery slope. The farther this society gets away from people hunting & butchering animals to feed their...

I would also like to see residents have to commit to a region. My only complaint about NW Wyoming is hunter management. I would like to see the Sept rifle a LQ permit with about 2000 resident permits for region G & H ( or about 3/4 of residents that currently hunt these areas). In concert...

I've used both Sitka & Kuiu and I love them both. The advantages to Kuiu (what I'm currently using) is that it is more affordable. I get a whole set of Yukon rain gear for what I get a sitka storm front jacket for. If you wait to buy it till it goes on sale. It seems like Kuiu is on sale...

grosventrehunter, Read the first part of this post. Points creep is a term created by people who want a catchy phrase for not enough tags or to many applicants or a combo of both. I agree that any points system should also include measures that actually help draw odds. 90/10 split waiting...

LAST EDITED ON Jul-01-16 AT 11:45AM (MST)[p]I second that. -90/10 split. End the requirement that there has to be 5 tags in a HA because we have to be able to give NR 2. If there isn't 5 permits nonresidents should get 0. If there is between 5-10 permits NR get 1. (I don't hate non...

For the record I drew a deer tag this year that had <4% odds and although its been well over a decade since my last LE tag I didn't put in for 4 or so years because I've been hunting general.

that's why having no first choice option if your on a waiting period works. My thought with a point system is if all the LE hunt areas in were 25-35% draw odds we wouldn't need any point system. The need for a point system lies in the fact that a large % of the Wyoming LE tags are <8% odds...

I will gladly wait my turn after I draw a tag. That's the beautiful thing about Wyoming is the general season can be as good as the LQ stuff. With the top deer & elk units sporting the same worst odds as moose tags 5 years isn't too much to ask.

So lets ask for 5 year wait for all permits (except reduced price cow/calf). Then on your second choice no waiting period restriction. For example: If you were on your 5 waiting period for antelope your first choice box would be greyed out but you would be able to enter a second choice to...

JM77, I questioned your moose numbers so I had to go to Gohunt & look for myself. Turns out your correct. Do you think your under estimating the importance of the 5 yr waiting period? I would prefer a squared bonus system, 5 yr waiting periods for hunts with <20% draw odds (for 5...

I agree that youth need not worry about the best tags in the state. The last time preference points legislation was introduced it was accompanied a clause that stated if the guardian drew a permit in the LE draw the youth dependent automatically got a tag (or something to that effect). For...

LAST EDITED ON Jun-27-16 AT 10:19PM (MST)[p]I also think that the draw should be in this order Sheep Moose Mountain goat, Bison Elk Deer Antelope If you draw a le Sheep tag your not eligible for any other LE tags (not stopping you for General tags) If you draw a moose your not eligible for any...

Let me be clear a Random draw is better than a bad points system. I'm not a fan of the current Wyoming preference pt system. The biggest reason is I think its hard on first time hunters. This is not because I think youth hunters should be immediately awarded the better LE tags from the draw...

Topgun, If there wasn't points applicants would be looking at odds. If they saw a unit with higher draw odds and the unit they normally put in for had lower odds (for whatever reason) a collective group of hunters may switch to the unit with better odds. It happens all the time with residents...

LAST EDITED ON Jun-25-16 AT 09:08AM (MST)[p]This has nothing to do with points creep. There were either more applicants or less tags. One can easily determine which is the cause. People think that if there wasn't points somehow draw odds would never change. As residents we often see rapid...

how do goats live with sheep in Alaska & Canada? Is it a problem there?

LAST EDITED ON May-25-16 AT 06:37PM (MST)[p]They should make the whole state general season mountain goat except the 3 areas that actually have goats. I actually know someone who saw and has pictures of a MT goat in the Southwest Wy desert. They should just charge like 20 bucks if you already...